[00:10] Bottle0fWater: you can still talk to me [00:11] but that would be doing backup using LVM [00:17] got a little problem with GRsync [00:18] for some reason Brave browser ./config folder seems to be never ending [00:18] and reached more than 30 Gig of space [00:18] on the disk, it is only 3.2gb [00:18] is it going into a loop or something? [00:22] getting a singletonlock? [00:23] It says: Filesystem does not support symbolic links [00:29] Bottle0fWater: yeah [00:30] how do I fix this for GRsync? [00:30] i mean imo that's what you are gonna go through for many special directories [00:30] idk cause i've never done backups using rsync [00:30] :( [00:30] that's why I said if you are with me, you gotta use lvm [00:34] is there a way to copy that folder only? without going into lopp? === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === oolitic is now known as CrazyEddy === remy_ is now known as REmy === REmy is now known as Remy [06:03] hi === ubunted is now known as spoke670 === spoke670 is now known as ubunted === alistar is now known as recycleherto === recycleherto is now known as recyclehero [09:08] Hi All! Ever since I upgraded my OS from 20.04 to 22.04, I'm unable to open any file over SFTP via apps that I've installed. I can open via apps that already exist such as gedit. What's going wrong? [09:24] Hi All! Ever since I upgraded my OS from 20.04 to 22.04, I'm unable to open any file over SFTP via apps that I've installed. I can open via apps that already exist such as gedit. What's going wrong? [09:32] hello === raileys is now known as railey [11:12] Hi [13:48] ciao [13:48] hi [13:50] hi [13:51] spyzrael: welcome this is ubuntu support channel [13:51] spyzrael: for general chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic [14:08] hello. I have what is likely a trivial issue but I don't know how to solve it. [14:13] I am trying to install an old ubuntu distrib (precise pangolin) on a virtual machine, but after installing it I don't have a gui desktop, only the terminal. I read a command to install the desktop, but it's based on apt-get and precise pangolin is pretty outdated and I get a 404 error. I read a command to fix this, but it is using the 'deb' command [14:13] and it is not installed. [14:13] !oel | Bubuche87 [14:14] !eol | Bubuche87 [14:14] Bubuche87: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [14:14] Bubuche87: don't install End of Life/unsupported releases of Ubuntu. We cannot provide support for them here. [14:16] is there a place I can get help for eol distribs ? [14:16] Bubuche87: why do you need to install an EOL release of ubuntu? [14:18] Hi all [14:18] I did the same with the latest version of ubuntu but it is pretty laggy on my laptop. I want a small ubuntu to do some C with fork execlp etc. [14:18] Bubuche87: what OS are you running on your machine? [14:19] the host is a windows 11 running virtualbox and I want to have a small ubuntu on it. [14:20] !wsl | Bubuche87 [14:20] Bubuche87: Windows 10 and newer have a feature called "Windows Subsystem for Linux", which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide === michel_c14 is now known as michel_c12 [16:56] Hello guys, I am running ubuntu 22.02 and I have an HP 14 , 4020 n. My mouse cursor freezes randomly, any assistance with that matter would be greatly appreciated [16:57] josh_: open the "additional drivers" application and check if there's any recommended drivers you can select [16:58] Tried it already with no success, all drivers are up to date [17:00] and we are back to not giving any detailed information at all :) [17:01] you could try an existing Ubuntu release. No 22.02 available [17:04] josh_: run this please and paste the resulting URL here: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ; cat /proc/cpuinfo ; grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo ; free -h ; lspci ; lsusb) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:13] Well, is it to provide you with the config file running this at the terminal or does it help with the issue?] [17:13] josh_: please run the above so we can get a better idea of your situation [17:14] and I also wonder if ubuntu 20.04 is not much better than 22.04 [17:15] josh_: post the resulting URL here when you're ready for us to help you [17:19] PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS" [17:19] NAME="Ubuntu" [17:19] VERSION_ID="22.04" [17:19] VERSION="22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)" [17:19] VERSION_CODENAME=jammy [17:19] ID=ubuntu [17:19] seriously? [17:19] josh_: run this please and paste the resulting URL here: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ; cat /proc/cpuinfo ; grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo ; free -h ; lspci ; lsusb) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:19] josh_: use dpaste,org for more than 3 lines [17:20] josh_: run the entire thing in the terminal, including the parenthesis [17:20] respawn: we're using termbin.com directly for this [17:20] or thermbin [17:21] josh_: the only thing you should be posting here is a termbin URL [17:34] PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS" [17:34] NAME="Ubuntu" [17:34] VERSION_ID="22.04" [17:34] VERSION="22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)" [17:34] VERSION_CODENAME=jammy [17:34] ID=ubuntu [17:36] he is doing it again [17:36] wp : yes [17:36] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave rdrand lahf_lm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault cat_l2 cdp_l2 ssbd [17:36] lol [17:37] ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust smep erms mpx rdt_a rdseed smap clflushopt intel_pt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves dtherm ida arat pln pts umip rdpid md_clear arch_capabilities [17:37] josh_: dont spam [17:37] vmx flags : vnmi preemption_timer posted_intr invvpid ept_x_only ept_ad ept_1gb flexpriority apicv tsc_offset vtpr mtf vapic ept vpid unrestricted_guest vapic_reg vid ple shadow_vmcs ept_mode_based_exec tsc_scaling [17:37] bugs : spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass [17:37] bogomips : 2188.80 [17:37] clflush size : 64 [17:37] cache_alignment : 64 [17:37] address sizes : 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual [17:37] josh_: use dpaste.org for more than 3 lines [17:39] josh_: STOP [17:39] josh_: I told you what to do [17:39] josh_: stop doing what you are doing and do what I told you to do [17:39] leftyfb: cant you smell the troll [17:40] LOL, maybe that I am hard at following instructions. Forgive my ignorance, I am not that clever, simply looking for solutions [17:43] Nonetheless, I am also looking for simplicity, wouldn' it be easier to just go with Ubuntu 20.04? [17:44] josh_: you should have copied the command and pasted in terminal everything from ( to 9999 [17:45] I tried it and it didnt work but isn' it the same thing? [17:48] josh_: highlighting text in hexchat copies, then use right click option in terminal to paste [17:49] josh_: run this please and paste the resulting URL here: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ; cat /proc/cpuinfo ; grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo ; free -h ; lspci ; lsusb) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:49] josh_: and no, we do not recommend ubuntu 20.04 over 22.04. There is no benefit [17:49] josh_: pasting everything floods the channel with text and it makes it hard for others [17:50] dale [17:50] alguem br [17:50] la ele [17:52] ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ; cat /proc/cpuinfo ; grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo ; free -h ; lspci ; lsusb) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:52] https://termbin.com/4i98 [17:54] josh_: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:55] i did just that, the result is in the provided link above [17:55] josh_: it is a different command [17:57] https://termbin.com/u6wj [17:57] josh_: depending on the results of the lsblk command, I might recommend upgrading your memory and to an SSD storage to see some performance improvement [17:57] oh, 60GB drive? Please tell me that's an SSD [17:58] yes [17:58] I'm guesing a really old one [17:59] please forgive my ignorance, but I am having a hard time finding out how that relates the mouse cursor freezing issue [18:00] you're running a 2 core celeron with 4GB of memory and what looks like a really old SSD that could be nearing the end of it's life [18:01] and that would be the issue? [18:02] josh_: The simplest thing I could recommend would be to install xubuntu or lubuntu. Beyond that, I would recommend upgrading your SSD and memory [18:03] wait [18:03] mmcblk? [18:03] that's an sd card [18:03] josh_: you're running Ubuntu from an sd card and you're wondering why you're getting poor performane? [18:27] he will be back tomorrow with the same question. i think this was day 3 [18:27] it's ok, now we know what the issue is [18:28] running the full default ubuntu environment on a dual core celeron with 4GB of memory off an sd card. That last part is more than likely the issue [18:56] I'm trying to renew my ip address with sudo dhclient -r but I get :Cannot find device "–r" cat: '/sys/class/net/'$'\342\200\223''r/ifindex': No such file or directory [18:57] Siamaster: why? [18:57] why what? [18:57] Siamaster: why are you trying to renew your ip with dhclient? [18:57] I change router settings I was hoping to get a different one [18:58] Siamaster: that's not up to the client [18:58] unplug the cable and plug it in again [18:58] but the whole command would be helpful [18:58] there seems to be something really weird in your command [18:58] I assigned a static local address to my mac address and was hoping to get the correct one after renewal [18:59] yeah, what's up with the command? [18:59] so unplug the cable and plug it back in [18:59] Siamaster: is this ubuntu desktop or server? [18:59] desktop [19:00] Siamaster: sudo dhclient -r # this is the proper method [19:00] or you disable the connection and re-enable it [19:00] aha! [19:00] same as plugging the cable [19:00] I did that [19:00] and I didn't get a new [19:00] hello!... :) [19:00] that's why I'm sceptical to unplugging too [19:01] can I find support here for ubuntu Cinnamon?... :) [19:01] or perhaps I did it wrong in the router.. nvm, I will know when I restard [19:01] Siamaster: then there is something wrong with the router side [19:01] lovetruth: ask away [19:01] Perhaps [19:01] Siamaster: sudo rm /var/lib/dhcp/* ; sudo dhclient -r [19:01] but i dont know how many cinnamon users are currently here [19:01] you may need some patience [19:02] I have a tablet Asus T102H - and I installed ubuntu (cinnamon) to it. Everything seems to work fine - except the autorotation of the display and of the touchscreen [19:02] Siamaster: on a desktop you could also just reboot right? dont make it more complicated than it needs to be [19:02] nvm, I was hoping for something easier. And was curious why the command didn't work [19:02] exactly [19:03] on Windows usually ipconfig /release and renew works [19:03] monitor-sensor shows that ii sensor proxy does detect the accelerometer change [19:03] but it also ruins your life so I shouldn't even mention it's name [19:03] lovetruth: seems to be an ongling issue: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/18-04-lts-on-asus-t102ha-tablet-review/18461 [19:04] It's scary how neither Mac nor Windows have a decent image viewer even after lots of search [19:04] also - if I manually rotate the display from the settings menu - the touchscreen doesn't seem to rotate too (like x is still swapped with y) [19:04] you get it for free on ubuntu, I hope it never changes [19:04] I love watching porn images.. [19:04] please keep it family friendly here. thanks [19:04] Siamaster: lets not [19:05] I'm just saying.. it's useful! [19:10] question [19:10] is software from snapcraft.io secure for ubuntu [19:11] fichero: more secure that the .deb packages [19:11] what does "secure" mean [19:11] you have to trust the maintainer [19:11] just like with every software package [19:12] firefox for example is built my mozilla. so if you trust the downloads from their website you can also trust the snap [19:24] ravage, thanks for that link :) ... I'm trying that right now - so I'll reboot now. Have a nice time there [19:33] same behaviour: display does rotate - but the touchscreen doesn't :) ... [19:48] what do you guys think of ubuntu budgie?... :) [19:53] !discuss | lovetruth [19:53] lovetruth: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [19:57] @ChanServ I have read the Code Of Conduct [19:57] Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. [20:01] I have three O.S.'s on my Desktop : Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 lts and Ubuntu 22.04 MATE [20:02] I work with the Ubuntu 20.04 lts most of the time . But now my password has changed and I can not get in anymore . [20:03] Hankbonk: to be clear, you changed your password and now you don't remember it? [20:03] Hankbonk: try advanced options in grub and boot recovery mode kernel [20:04] No, I was not at home, and the cleaning lady had put my PC out? I did not change my password . [20:04] uh [20:04] your cleaning lady changed your password? [20:05] Is that possible without knowing user password [20:05] yes [20:05] I don't think she meant to do that, I myself can not explain [20:06] Hankbonk: https://itsfoss.com/how-to-hack-ubuntu-password/ [20:06] Hankbonk: though honestly, I wouldn't trust the machine now and would rebuild from scratch [20:08] Here's what I already tried : I booted via "Advanced Ubuntu", choose "Recovery mode" and then "dropped to root shell prompt" [20:10] Hankbonk: ok, now follow the rest of the instructions in the link I gave you [20:11] there I typed : $ mount -rw -o remount / $ passwd henk [20:11] They come from that link, @leftyfb [20:12] ok, if you didn't get any errors, reboot [20:13] Well, there I didn't get any errors, but when rebooting, it didn't accept the password I entered . [20:14] So I entered it again, but then it told me my account was locked [20:15] Hankbonk: I would recommend a fresh install [20:15] there's no telling what someone did to your machinw [20:15] machine* [20:15] So I did the whole thing again, but I first typed this $ passwd -u henk [20:15] to unlock [20:16] A fresh install, @leftyfb ??!! [20:16] Hankbonk: if it were me, yes, definitely [20:16] I wouldn't trust the state of your machine [20:17] someone modified it in a very serious way. There's no telling what else was done to it [20:20] I just thought that at the time of changing the password (in that root shell prompt) my keyboard was qwerty instead of azerty, which is the right one [20:24] I really don't need another fresh (re-)install of my Ubuntu 20.04, It's been many years I use it, and have added a lot of software to it ... [20:26] Hankbonk: can you login after ctrl+alt+F5 [20:27] Hankbonk: if you're running 20.04, that's even more reason to install 22.04 from scratch. Perfect timing [20:27] Didn't try that, what does it do, @jeremy32 [20:27] Hankbonk: you can install every single package you had before with 1 or 2 commands in the terminal [20:27] Hankbonk: takes you to a tty [20:28] @ leftyfb : Which commands ? [20:29] Hankbonk: sudo apt install package1 package2 package3 package4, etc ; sudo snap install package1 package2 package3 package4, etc [20:29] apt install update ? [20:30] ah ok, thank you both, @leftyfb, and @jeremy32 [20:34] Is it possible for me to correct the version number of whipper in 22.04? It's showing 0.0.0 but apt shows the install as 0.9.0. [20:35] FKAShinobi: why? [20:35] leftyfb: why what? [20:35] FKAShinobi: that's built into the application. You can either download and modify the source and recompile or contact the software vendor to fix their application [20:35] FKAShinobi: why do you need the version number "fixed"? [20:36] leftyfb: because it wrong and it outputs the error in it's logs [20:36] !bug | FKAShinobi [20:36] FKAShinobi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [20:41] zup leftyfb [20:51] Is there someone that can help me out with burning the ISO to a flash drive? I have burned out two flash drives using Etcher. After burning the image file, the computer tells me I have to reformat the drive to access the files. Is this supposed to happen? [20:51] Also, is there a way to access the live USB if we can't access the BIOS? [20:54] what do you mean "the computer tells me" [20:54] mandi628: why not just boot the usb flash drive to install ubuntu? [20:55] that's what i'm trying to do, but i have to make the bootable usb stick first, right? [20:55] mandi628: flashing the iso to the usb flash drive will do that for you. It's part of the iso [20:57] Maybe I'm not using the right terminology here. We downloaded the .iso file. We installed Etcher to flash the file to the USB drive. We get an error message saying that we have to reformat the USB drive in order to access the files. [20:58] mandi628: when/where do you get that error? [20:58] Sorry - after Etcher completes the steps, we receive the error message. [20:58] you don't need to "access the files" [20:58] just plug it in to the machine you want to install ubuntu on and reboot [20:58] I know. We're not trying to. The computer is just giving us this message. [20:59] We also have not been able to access the BIOS to change the boot order. I have never run into this problem before. We've tried F12, F2, and F1. Any other suggestions? [20:59] mandi628: that would be a #hardware issue [20:59] Ok, thanks [21:00] use ventoy forget etcher [21:00] leftyfb Thanks [21:00] LowTech: etcher isn't the problem [21:00] and ventoy is overkill for just making a one time use ubuntu installer [21:00] maybe UEFI/fastboot prevents writing properly to usb, depends on the host used? [21:00] I guess but its so convenient [21:01] oerheks: EFI shouldn't affect how an iso gets flashed. It's not part of the process [21:06] mandi628: if you are using macos, the fact that you can't access the files without reformating the drives is a perfectly normal phenomenon [21:06] you don't have to access the files like leftyfb said [21:07] you just have to boot into the flashed drive at next startup [21:07] mandi628: can you tell me the model and make of your computer? [21:08] scottpedia: is a Lenovo Z50-70 [21:08] a brute-force way to access the BIOS is to remove all bootable mediums and then at startup it will have to go to BIOS mandi628 [21:09] did you try that? [21:09] or at least UEFI shell [21:09] no - the computer is in PA and I am in SC. And I'm not good with hardware issues [21:10] PA? SC? mandi628 [21:10] mandi628: it's best if you ask for help here while you are in front of the computer in question [21:10] scottpedia: yes, the computer is with my daughter at college. [21:10] leftyfb: I agree, that would be preferable [21:11] I apologize, everyone, for my bad manners. It's been awhile since I have used IRC [21:11] mandi628: you can invite your daughter in so we can help her at real-time [21:13] mandi628: I guarantee someone at your daughters college can make an ubuntu usb flash drive for her [21:13] mandi628: might be a small button on the left side that has to be pressed [21:13] scottpedia: thank you. We will do that on our next attempt. She is currently on a hunt for another USB stick to back up her files before we erase everything [21:13] mandi628: ok [21:13] leftyfb: would you help her next time if I am away? [21:13] :p [21:14] scottpedia: this channel is filled with volunteers [21:14] leftyfb: someone in the IT department gave her a USB stick, but it was not a bootable stick [21:15] mandi628: bro the USB stick is not bootable by hardware [21:15] mandi628: just any USB stick can be made bootable [21:15] jeremy31: I didn't think of that. Thanks! [21:15] who is this someone at the IT???? [21:16] (wtf) [21:16] scottpedia: please settle down [21:16] mandi628: it might be close to the power button [21:17] jeremy31: https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_g40_g50_z40_z50_ug_english.pdf#G4.1020734 [21:17] mandi628: I would either ask IT to flash an ubuntu 22.04 installer on a usb flash drive for your daughter, or find almost any other student, preferably in a sciences division to do it for her [21:18] leftyfb: I think we got the installer done, from what you all have said. We just can't get the boot order set to find out b/c we can't access the BIOS. [21:19] mandi628: you'll have to debug that when you get to the school. Or ask someone at the school or help your daughter out with it [21:19] I've done this before - even had a couple of computers set up with dual OS, but it was all over a decade ago. I've been using Chromebook slately. [21:19] ohh yeah jeremy31 is right: https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_g40_g50_z40_z50_ug_english.pdf#page=34&zoom=201,-56,404 [21:19] mandi628: use the novo button [21:20] jeremy31 scottpedia Thanks, guys! I Googled it, but didn't get any schematics like this. Thanks! [21:20] mandi628: np man glad to help [21:20] mandi628: that should give access to boot order, BIOS settings and a couple other options [21:24] jeremy31: GOOD JOB MAN!!! [21:26] Thanks, all, for your help! I will check in when we make our next attempt. Have a great weekend! === NightMonkey_ is now known as NightMonkey === jake1 is now known as sybariten [22:10] Hey hey [22:11] I have a pretty .... intrusive kernel message that comes up every time i try to apt install. Anyone know what i mean? [22:12] leftyfb: rbox: ravage: i heard of snap but snapcraft.io is it acredited by ubuntu canonico? [22:13] fichero: what is your concern exactly? [22:13] leftyfb: a virus or spyware [22:13] leftyfb: i don't know [22:13] fichero: there are none in the snap store [22:22] !ubuntu-bug whipper [22:23] FKAShinobi: you run that in your terminal [22:23] leftyfb: If I download the source, where would the version be set, a makefile? [22:24] FKAShinobi: I have no idea and that's well beyond the scope of the support provided here [22:24] FKAShinobi: Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers [22:24] Original-Maintainer: Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy) [22:25] I would suggest contacting one or both of those for help [22:31] di [22:31] sybariten: can you pastebin the error message? [22:33] leftyfb: ok friendo [22:33] i guess what i was saying is is snapcraft.io an authorized ubuntu repos [22:33] yes [22:33] the name sounded wierd so i was doubt [22:33] ok good [22:52] I'm reading very good so snapcrafto is a package manager like some others for ubuntu [22:52] it adds on to apt? [22:52] snaps have nothign to do with apt [23:03] '_ [23:05] Ah, I didn't realize it was a snap. [23:05] I hate those things === starz is now known as Guest52620 [23:05] Now that the drivers are part of the install, I need to get back on Debian [23:05] ,v whipper [23:06] wrong chat. sorry [23:06] hmm? [23:22] FKAShinobi: je [23:22] I like ubuntu cuz is packed [23:23] O [23:23] I'm looking at github has the latest mpc-hc i was looking at [23:24] the snap has it but from 2020, this github has it for 2023 [23:25] what does the newer version have? [23:27] better mediainfo support [23:28] don't even know where to click to download but i think is for windows [23:28] the snap then was my ony choice, I'll resort to wait time until the snap updates mpc [23:38] hey [23:38] no [23:48] OK, so every time i use apt to install something now, i get a full screen "pending kernel upgrade" message. [23:49] sybariten: have you rebooted? [23:50] jeremy31: no, i was gonna get to that, i guess a reboot should help with .... installing a new kernel_ [23:50] ? [23:51] The new kernel only loads after a reboot [23:52] aha [23:53] but the next screen of this warning/info also says "daemons using outdated libraries" and asks about a number of services that should be restarted. I don't quite understand this screen either. [23:53] (I mean, if i reboot the machine the services will be restarted anyhow) [23:55] The packages that got updates affect those services [23:56] So you need to restart them to make use of the updated packages [23:56] Or just reboot [23:56] ok...