[00:19] <leftyfb> peirik: because "guest" doesn't have /usr/local/bin in it's $PATH
[04:35] <hermano> My OS cannot find my bluetooth devices (mouse, keyboard). I remove both and trying to pair them again but it does not pair.
[04:36] <hermano> Bluetooth is activated on OS.
[04:39] <gry> hermano: does it see any bluetooth devices at all, or none
[04:41] <hermano> It does see my since the device cannot be paired I removed then all. Now the "device" icon is just spinning and does not show any device even if the mouse and keyboard are blinking, which indicate they are in pairing mode. Tried to reinstall bluez, enable and started bluetooth.
[04:42] <hermano> "It does see my devices..."
[04:42] <toddc> hermano: boot a live usb and retest
[04:46] <hermano> toddc, Thanks will test. I just swapped mouse/keyboard to my other computer and there bluetooth works in windows OS.
[05:55] <alkisg> Did I understand correctly that /tmp is sandboxed in snap? So, if I want my users to find some log, I should put that log to e.g. /var/tmp instead? Is /var/tmp sandboxed?
[06:00] <ravage> everything is sandboxed
[06:00] <ravage> a snap has no access to the host except for home if you grant that right
[06:05] <alkisg> ravage: date >/tmp/date1.txt; then Firefox snap > File > Open > /tmp/date1.txt. It works, but it shows a file://run URL. Does that mean they have read-only access to /tmp?
[06:07] <alkisg> The end goal is for the Ubuntu users to be able to email an installer.log, but that installer runs as root, so it shouldn't save stuff to /home/username
[06:08] <alkisg> I think it's doing some weird overlay/copy, so they seem to have read-only access to all of /
[06:08] <alkisg> So I guess /var/log/company/installer.log will be fine, accessible to Ubuntu snap users
[06:20] <ravage> Everything writeable is in ~/snap/
[06:20] <ravage> Snaps can also use tmpfs
[06:23] <ravage> The Firefox snap does not have access to your host files except home as stated above
[06:26] <alkisg> ravage, I go to mail.google.com using Ubuntu 22.04 firefox snap, and I'm able to attach e.g. /var/log/auth.log. Aren't you able to attach that file in an email? I'm confused...
[06:29] <alkisg> I think it might be using the xdg portal thing, and it feels like it's implementation is "show all disk contents, then copy the selected file to /run/user". So essentially they have read-only access to all the disk.
[06:32] <ravage> I can test it when I am at the office later
[06:32] <ravage> But it would surprise me
[06:32] <alkisg> Thanks; I also fired up an ubuntu22.04.iso to make sure it's not something specific to my ubuntu VM
[06:34] <alkisg> Yup I was able to attach auth.log from the live media as well
[06:54] <Yakov> having ezcap hdmi capture device set to dev0, how to choose that device and output its stream with vlc?
[07:55] <raeliak> Hello.
[09:22] <sybariten> hello! Is "debian-+" an actual user in a ubuntu (live usb) system?  I'm starting some daemon and it seems from ps as if this user owns the process
[09:22] <sybariten> i'm starting with sudo
[09:23] <Habbie> i think the + means the name got truncated
[09:23] <sybariten> aha aha
[09:23] <Habbie> what's the daemon? tor?
[09:23] <sybariten> Habbie: transmission
[09:23] <Habbie> grep debian /etc/passwd
[09:24] <sybariten> ooooh
[09:24] <sybariten> transmission created its own user upon installation ... called debian-transmission
[09:24] <Habbie> sounds likely!
[09:25] <raeliak> Hi. Is there any way to install 20.04 on a laptop with Intel RST?
[09:25] <raeliak> The installer doesn't detect the array.
[09:25] <raeliak> But 22.04 does.
[09:26] <Habbie> sybariten, indeed, i see the same here (in /etc/passwd) when i install transmission-daemon
[09:26] <sybariten> yup  :)
[09:27] <sybariten> and i wanted to write to a home dir (with transmission) but that didnt work.... maybe this is part of the reason
[09:27] <Habbie> likely
[09:27] <Habbie> it also made a group - maybe you can make the dir writable for that group
[09:33] <sybariten> Habbie: good idea, thanks
[09:36] <ravage> raeliak: all i can say is: dont use it. configure a software raid.
[09:37] <raeliak> Even if I disable the RAID mode, the installer doesn't detect the disks.
[10:50] <realivanjx> finally a built in camera app https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-23-10/
[10:52] <realivanjx> anyone else uses thunderbird mail? is there a way to "export" everything before reinstalling my linux and "import" them again after so i dont have to set everything up again?
[10:55] <coz_> realivanjx, read here, it msay help    https://www.ionos.com/help/email/other-email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird-exporting-emails/
[11:01] <coz_> realivanjx, I don't use thunderbird, however the "import/export" addon sounds interesting
[11:24] <ravage> I just backup .thunderbird
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:25] <cm-t> realivanjx: I do just like coz_ : i just backup my   ~/.thunderbird folder
[12:26] <cm-t> i meant like ravage
[14:51] <johnfg> hi folks
[14:52] <toddc> johnfg: welcome
[14:52] <johnfg> An update is asking me to select PAM profiles.  Is 'pam-auth-update' what I'd run to see what I currently have selected?
[14:55] <johnfg> Actually, I can't look at that now, as it's locked by the upgrade process.  What file in /etc/pam.d will show me what's current?
[14:59] <johnfg> normally, I update with apt update, but I'm using Software Updater for what popped up this morning.  Can I safely kill it without messing things up?
[15:14] <johnfg> I found an old reference to this problem (13.10), but it's the first time it happened to me.  what would you recommend?
[15:48] <hermano> Still problems with bluetooth in ubuntu 22.04, I have followed instruction and reinstalled the bluetooth drivers. Both mouse/keyboard stopped worked but they do work on another machine. Any other troubleshooting I can do to get back bluetooth? Can it be any settings in BIOS that sets bluetooth functionally off?
[16:04] <pickanick> Hello, how can one tell which processes are creating internet traffic? I'm seeing a pulse of data about every three seconds.
[16:04] <carpatu> wireshark can
[16:04] <carpatu> nvm
[16:05] <shadow255> there's a program called nethogs you can install that will do this
[16:05] <carpatu> this honestly, dont use wireshark its gonna be like finding the needle in the hay
[16:06] <shadow255> of course, pickanick wasn't here for the answers lol
[16:09] <shadow255> pickanick: try nethogs for your earlier question
[16:15] <pickanick> In Ubuntu 22.04, how can one tell which processes are creating how much internet traffic?  Seems that System Monitor reports IO but not network IO
[16:15] <carpatu> @bar(input):button1resource monitor
[16:15] <carpatu> resource monitor
[16:15] <carpatu> on ubuntu *facepalm*
[16:16] <carpatu> nvm
[16:20] <shadow255> pickanick: sudo apt install nethogs
[16:20] <shadow255> you'll want to run it sudo as well
[16:28] <leftyfb> pickanick: ntop
[16:30] <pickanick> I see suggestion for nethogs and ntop
[16:30] <leftyfb> pickanick: pick: also, you only need to be signed into IRC with 1 client, not 2
[16:31] <pickanick> Were there any other responses while I was disconnected? (how can one tell which processes are creating how much internet traffic?)
[16:32] <pickanick> leftyfb: only signed in on another after the first one kept going down.
[17:02] <Elliria> Hey there. Does anyone here know how to target a specific program (like Firefox) in the ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css file to make a rule just for that program?
[17:11] <user452> trying to discover where Ubuntu is hiding LiveCD, when installing I see the choice "*Try or Install Ubuntu" then it proceeds with all the installation options, I never see the choice after to "Try" or go Live
[17:12] <alkisg> user452: upload a screenshot. After "try" you should choose the installation language, and then see the live session desktop
[17:12] <user452> No, its literally a GRUB menu with 1 line "*Try or Install"
[17:14] <user452> When researching online I see ISO that show you the GUI buttons TRY and INSTALL, but using a virt-manager to create a VM to test this ISO, I want to see where I go wrong with "trying" lol
[17:14] <user452> only way I see to get access to an Ubuntu is Help->open shell
[17:16] <user452> so is the *Try simply CTRL+SHIFT+F2 when in the middle of installing?
[17:16] <leftyfb> user452: after you pick "Try or Install" what does the screen look like? Please post a screenshot
[17:24] <user452> this is what I see after choosing *try or install Ubuntu https://paste.pics/4e2966abc8900feac55f3d028ada40ff
[17:25] <ravage> this is Ubuntu Server
[17:26] <ravage> you cant try the server version
[17:26] <user452> then why does is say *Try?
[17:26] <ravage> i guess nobody cared to change the text from the desktop iso
[17:26] <user452> I believe I answered my own question CTRL+SHIFT+F2 is a live Ubuntu
[17:26] <user452> otherwise it makes no sense
[17:59] <josh_> I am running Ubuntu 22.04 and now the 23.04 is available and according to what I read , the latest version is pretty interesting , should I switch? As anyone tried Ubuntu 23.04?
[18:01] <josh_> I forgot to greet you guys...Hi.
[18:02] <toddc> josh_: 22.04 has long term support STABLE  unless you need or want to test and able to deal with 9 months support
[18:03] <josh_> I would think that Ubuntu 23.04 is much better for my laptop  although the support is only 9  months
[18:04] <Habbie> yes, you're choosing to accept that you need to upgrade to 23.10 around the end of the year
[18:04] <Habbie> or running unsupported, of course
[18:06] <josh_> What does non support in reality really means? no update or?
[18:09] <josh_> But tell me , am I wrong when stating that Ubuntu 22.03 has better features compared to 22.04
[18:12] <toddc> newer better new bugs documents still in progress less tested   I used to use latest but not I only use LTS I did not have time or skill to test and debug
[18:19] <Delemas> On Ubuntu 22.04, I'm trying to resolve issues with  virtiofsd version 6.2.0 (Debian 1:6.2+dfsg-2ubuntu6.13). I'm being told to use the supported Rust version instead of the deprecated one which Ubuntu has packaged in qemu-system-common. Does anyone know how to do this using packages? i.e. I do not want to hand compile and replace exes outside of system packaging.
[18:29] <josh_> is it better to to a clean install of 22.03 or to just upgrade?
[18:30] <Delemas> I guess the real question here is why is Ubuntu appear to be stuck ancient qemu packages...
[18:30] <Delemas> Backup and then upgrade. If it fails reinstall. Upgrades usually work.
[18:31] <White_Cat> Good evening to everyone
[18:31] <Delemas> Failures usually involve odd PPAs or systems which corruption.
[18:32] <Delemas> with corruption I mean...
[18:32] <White_Cat> A new user has joined
[18:32] <White_Cat> from greece
[19:36] <locke> How can I change my log-in password on ubuntu?
[19:38] <ioria> locke, System Settings -> Users
[19:47] <johnfg> any thoughts on the questions about pam I asked earlier?
[19:48] <johnfg> The upgrade is pretty much frozen at the selection screen for pam profiles.
[19:52] <johnfg> Now, after killing that dialog box, and shutting the update down, apt update says this:, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock. It is held by process 181282 (aptd)
[19:53] <johnfg> N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break your system.
[19:53] <johnfg> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[19:53] <johnfg> What's my next step?
[19:54] <johnfg> And, I apologize if those lines should have been in a paste.
[20:04] <Delemas> FYI in case anyone has the same problem, there are packages in proposed and a bug specific PPA that fix the issues I was seeing.
[20:45] <dan> Good evening, I'm using a raspberry 400 with Ubuntu. I'm working on flashing an ESP32 but the device is disconnecting. A while ago i noticed that an USB-HDD disconnecting permanently? I working much with chatGPT but can't solving my problem with this chatbot.
[20:45] <Habbie> what software are you using for flashing? how is it failing? what are the error messages?
[20:46] <leftyfb> dan: I would start in #raspberrypi
[20:46] <Habbie> yeah
[20:46] <Habbie> actually that sounds right
[20:46] <Habbie> come over to #raspberrypi
[20:46] <Habbie> more likely to be a hardware issue than an ubuntu issue
[20:46] <leftyfb> it sounds like an OS/bus/power issue more than an OS
[20:46] <leftyfb> sorry, it sounds like hardwware/bus/power issue more than an OS
[20:47] <leftyfb> dan_: /join #raspberrypi
[20:54] <dan> Habbie,  I'd like to answering you
[20:54] <leftyfb> dan: I would start in #raspberrypi
[20:54] <dan> Does the channel includes Ubuntu?
[20:55] <leftyfb> dan: it doesn't sound like your issue has anything to do with the OS
[20:55] <leftyfb> it's more than likely a power issue on the usb bus
[20:55] <leftyfb> as in, you're drawing too much power
[20:55] <dan> maybe but maybe some more
[20:55] <Habbie> dan, i'm in #raspberrypi too
[20:56] <leftyfb> dan: I would start in #raspberrypi
[20:58] <dan> leftyfb, yes I'm guessing it's a power issue too.
[20:59] <dan> but is that all?
[20:59] <leftyfb> dan: /join #raspberrypi
[21:36] <NewtonTrendy> could this eventually be incorperated in ubuntu? https://github.com/NewtonTrendy/opendata/ (concept only)
[21:37] <NewtonTrendy> anotheryou: are you me?
[21:37] <leftyfb> NewtonTrendy: please don't spam here
[21:39] <leftyfb> NewtonTrendy: you created that github repo 8 minutes ago and immediately posted it here. The entire page is a theory about a service. If you have an app you have developed and would like to include in ubuntu, first get it packaged up and submitted to Debian.
[21:40] <leftyfb> NewtonTrendy: if you would like to have a discussion about your idea, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:40] <NewtonTrendy> can we do this in pm to avoid spamming the channel?
[21:40] <leftyfb> !support | NewtonTrendy
[21:43] <NewtonTrendy> leftyfb: this was related to ubuntu, as it was a vision for the platform, and i believe that comes under support. i dont condone people cutting conversatons just because they can, and i know how carefree the ops here can be about banning people and how little feedback they get about when they are wrong. So I will now go to #ubuntu-offtopic as you suggest, because you won't pm me, even though i
[21:44] <NewtonTrendy> believe this is unhealthy practice for the ubuntu project and they should be open to new project ideas.
[21:48] <hggdh> NewtonTrendy: not on a support channel
[23:04] <webchat40> hi there. I was hoping someone might have some suggestions on debugging performance issues with virtualized Ubuntu 22.04 LTS instances hosted in AWS, specifically as it relates `gnome-terminal`. I believe the issue has to do with virtualized graphics via llvmpipe. CPU usage spikes significantly when simply moving around a window- e.g. terminal.
[23:04] <webchat40> thanks in advance
[23:04] <mdx001> Hi, I'm run in issue with raspberry and ubuntu and with flashing an ESP32. Recently I asked about. I'm having connceted an powered usb-hub but same problem as before
[23:05] <mdx001> the ESP32 is disconnecting...
[23:09] <webchat40> gnome-shell*
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