[00:20] <explore> any good ubuntu networking book(s)? was wondering if it is possible to configure ubuntu server to be a private VPN, i am hoping this will enable me to login into my dwelling, into the ubuntu server, access files, from the ipad/iphone what not, i guess i'll need to get some easy domain name? reverse proxy? then some sort of VPN set up? is that how it works? no clue..
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[01:09] <rfm> explore, don't know of any books to recommend, and I've never done it, but it should be doable.  Most popular VPN servers on ubuntu are OpenVPN and Wirequard, I think.
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[01:11] <rfm> explore, wireguard is newer and supposedly easier to administer/connect to.  wireguard.com has docs, and it's in the ubuntu repos (so is OpenVPN I think)
[01:12] <rfm> explore, don't think you'd need a domain name, unless your residential IP is very unstable, in which case you'd need one of the various dynamic dns services
[01:14] <rfm> explore, #networking or #wireguard might be better for getting help since it's not particularly ubuntu-specific
[01:26] <explore> ok ok
[01:27] <explore> hey so i installed ubuntu server lts when i had no internet connection, from an iso, and then today i finally got internet (telco showed up to plug in the wire), and i did a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade, it may have had a hiccup when i tried to reboot--after all was said and done
[01:27] <explore> it said it had to update kernel or something, i vaguely recall
[01:28] <explore> so i wanted to verify, so i did a dpkg -V (as well as debsums -c), i was hoping to see zero errors, but both command listed a sizable list of missing files
[01:28] <explore> is that.. normal?
[01:28] <explore> :
[01:31] <explore> i was inspecting the missing files and mostly locale files, like /usr/share/local/es/LC_MESSAGES/iso_639-2.mo (from iso-codes package)
[01:32] <explore> maybe apt is smart enough to only install locale files for my region/localization, that's why so many locale files are missing?
[01:32] <explore> i don't get it >___<
[01:32] <gry> could you just reinstall that package?
[01:33] <explore> i tried, i read this write-up https://devicetests.com/find-reinstall-corrupted-packages-ubuntu
[01:33] <explore> and it had two remedies, the second line was to reinstall all packages that the "missing errors" complaineda bout
[01:33] <explore> when i ran the command, i got this huge list of errors complaining that these packages don't exist
[01:34] <explore> maybe it's nothing...i am a debian system luddite
[01:34] <rfm> explore, it's possible that some of the less used locales might be missing stuff (broken packages).  In general what happens if a .mo is mising you just get an untranslated (english/C-locale) message
[01:35] <explore> ah ok ok
[01:35] <explore> not super sure what you just said b/c i don't understand
[01:35] <explore> but you said it crystal clear
[01:35] <toddc> explore: if you are new to vpn routing you may want to try IPFire for a router with vpn and configs all grafical it worked well for me to learn on
[01:36] <explore> thanks for heads uyp
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[05:12] <lubuntu> ..
[05:12] <lubuntu> someone
[05:13] <lubuntu> helo
[05:13] <matsaman> hi
[05:15] <lubuntu> i use lubuntu, and you?
[05:16] <lubuntu> lubuntu
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[05:38] <locke> Where can I find hexchat for ubuntu?
[05:38] <locke> I'm using Windows now.
[05:42] <Bashing-om> !info hexchat | locke
[05:42] <ubottu> locke: hexchat (2.16.1-1build2, lunar): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Built by hexchat. Size 361 kB / 1,047 kB
[05:46] <locke> Hello guiverc
[05:47] <locke> !info hexchat
[05:47] <ubottu> hexchat (2.16.1-1build2, lunar): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Built by hexchat. Size 361 kB / 1,047 kB
[05:48] <locke> But where on the web can one downloas hexchat for ubuntu?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !archive | locke
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> locke: archive.ubuntu.com
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> locke: you cant install a deb on windows right
[05:57] <guiverc> `sudo apt install hexchat`  should install it locke (supported releases anyway)
[05:58] <akik> it's a two-step process; first install wsl 2, then install hexchat
[05:58] <guiverc> do note it's in 'universe' or the community-supported repository; so universe may need to be enabled
[05:59] <guiverc> if you're using Lubuntu; universe will already be enabled  (all releases as Lubuntu is community flavor)
[06:05] <hermano> Yesterday I asked about suggestion of solving bluetooth problems (could not find the devices). Turned out that this was a problem occuring by the motherboard. It got solved by removing powercable and switch off the power button in the rear. Seems bluetooth feature on motherboard can behave same way as a bluetooth dongle. The computer thought that the bluetooth was unplugged. By doing the power reset, bluetooth comes back.
[06:06] <hermano> Anyone knows why the loss of bluetooth from motherboard happens?
[06:06] <hermano> I will move my last question to #hardware channel.
[06:09] <toddc> hermano: many reasons heat from expanding and contracting dust in the connectors, parts breaking down on the bluetooth module bad solder on the board
[06:15] <hermano> Tower server is 5 month and it was assembled for me. But, yes sound reasonable that something must have caused the unplugging of bluetooth.
[06:19] <toddc> hermano: way too often just a car ride across town has caused issues on desktops/servers  bouncing? dust? I just clean reset parts retest then replace part if needed
[06:35] <locke> A car rice can cause issues on a computer? even if the computer is on a seat and gets a xmooth ride?
[06:35] <locke> A car ride can cause issues on a computer? even if the computer is on a seat and gets a xmooth ride?
[06:36] <locke> smooth ride?
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[07:25] <P1ro> Hi, im trying to create a systemd unit that runs every 12 hours, unit only need to run an script, cna some guide me a bit please?
[07:26] <ravage> https://opensource.com/article/20/7/systemd-timers
[07:26] <P1ro> Thanks ravage, also i see normally create a timer and a .service file right ?
[07:27] <ravage> yes
[07:28] <P1ro> ravage: why is that ? why there cant the unit have its own timer ? just wondering
[07:29] <ravage> timers start units
[07:39] <locke> How many of you use Hexchat?
[07:39] <locke> or xchat?
[07:42] <nteodosio> With around 1000 users what accuracy do you expect a response to have, locke?
[07:45] <locke> I don't know. But hexchat for Linux xeens very hard to find.
[07:46] <locke> So I wonder what others use for IRC.
[07:47] <toddc> weechat-screen  IRSSI
[07:47] <locke> I had it on my laptop, then that laptop went caffluey and ubuntu had to be reinstalled.
[07:48] <locke> So, I wonder what the others are now using for an IRC client.
[07:49] <nteodosio> What do you mean with hard to find? It's in the archive, apt install hexchat.
[07:50] <locke> I tried it on my laptop. And it says that there is no hexchat.
[07:50] <nteodosio> Hmm, weird. Can you share the output of 'sudo apt update && apt policy hexchat'?
[07:52] <toddc> hexchat is not availible after 20.04 per https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hexchat
[07:53] <toddc> but it is a snap in 22.o4
[07:53] <nteodosio> toddc, no, they just seem to have sorted the distributions alphabetically now, which is indeed confusing.
[07:53] <nteodosio> So it is still available in all supported releases and Mantic.
[07:54] <toddc> it is in my 22.04 software center but not a program I use
[07:54] <nteodosio> Argh, not alphabetically. But in reverse chronological order.
[07:57] <locke> The sucoI installed snapd, and then used snap install, for onw.
[07:57] <locke> one that didn't work.
[08:01] <locke> I installed snapd then a snap install of hexchat, and that didn't work.
[08:01] <nteodosio> Don't install the snap, but the deb. Open a terminal and enter 'sudo apt install hexchat'.
[08:02] <locke> How do you install the deb?
[08:02] <nteodosio> I just told you...
[08:03] <locke> You said to open the terminal after the deb has been installed?
[08:03] <nteodosio> No, to install the deb, open a terminal and enter that command.
[08:06] <locke> command deb not found
[08:06] <locke> Do I have to get rid of the snapd first?
[08:07] <locke> It said that there is a command den or dub
[08:08] <nteodosio> You already entered 'sudo apt install hexchat'? Then it is installed and you can launch it normally, or by typing 'hexchat' in the terminal, not 'deb'.
[08:08] <locke> or debt or debc or derb ...
[08:09] <nteodosio> The deb is the packaging format. So you can either install hexchat packaged in deb format or the snap format. I guess the software center installed the snap format. Thus I suggested you to install the deb format via the command line.
[08:12] <akik> did ubuntu already fix that issue that apt installed a snap?
[08:12] <locke> theoceaniscool ... Actually the hurricanes that ravished Florida in the last month or two happened because the ocean is warm. But that is a conversation is for a different channel.
[08:13] <locke>  
[08:13] <locke> ubuntu couldn't find the commands. And that's the problem i have.
[08:15] <locke> Hello YuGiOhJCJ
[08:16] <locke> ahic ... Are you still there?
[08:16] <locke> Can you help me?
[08:17] <locke> Hello Bencraft42
[08:23] <guiverc> locke, Ubuntu systems allow you to install both deb and snap packages, but commands control which is installed.  eg. to install firefox using a deb I could `sudo apt install firefox`  (ie. sudo to elevate privileges, `apt` is the command to download & do something; install is what I want, and `firefox` tells it what I want to install; ie. `sudo apt install firefox`
[08:24] <guiverc> if I wanted to install a `firefox` snap; it would be `snap install firefox` OR `sudo snap install firefox`.. to install `hexchat` it would be `sudo apt install hexchat`
[08:25]  * guiverc has put commands within `` brackets; `apt-get` is an older version of `apt`, with a number of ways we can accomplish tasks. 
[08:25]  * guiverc is heading out though sorry; won't be around for a couple of hours
[08:28] <locke> guiverc, doesn't firefox come with the ubuntu distribution?
[08:28] <locke> Do you get the Activities on the left side of your home screen?
[08:28]  * guiverc was using firefox as example
[08:30]  * guiverc adds deb is package format; snap is a package format + a command; deb packages are installed with `dpkg`, or can be installed via front-end tools such as `apt-get` or `apt` which combined download (wget) & the install (dpkg) for you
[08:30] <locke> For me the install snapd seemed to work.
[08:31] <P1ro> im the only one who see guiverc on blue?
[08:36] <locke> bbl ... bed time
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[10:30] <guest-STzERf> hi
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[12:04] <bOSKE> hi, i have problems with desktop icons
[12:04] <bOSKE> when i click it it open it with kate
[12:05] <bOSKE> i don't know how to change it to open apps
[12:05] <bOSKE> ?
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[12:14] <kx112> I am using Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS, with NetworkManager version 1.36.6. I get very frequent WiFi disconnections, I think caused by this bug: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/merge_requests/1263. It looks like for my Ubuntu release, 1.36.6 is the latest NetworkManager version. Any tips on how I can upgrade?
[12:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Merge 1263 in NetworkManager/NetworkManager "wifi: wait supplicant to settle before renewing DHCP after roam" [Merged]
[12:15] <leftyfb> !latest | kx112
[12:15] <ubottu> kx112: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[12:16] <leftyfb> kx112: I would start with disabling power saving to see if that solves your issue https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/315400
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:20] <kx112> leftyfb: I tried disabling power saving, to no avail. From looking at the NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant logs, I'm fairly sure it is the bug mentioned above: my device roams, starts to reauthenticate with a new beacon, but a dhcp refresh occurs during this which gives me a new IP and causes any connections to reset.
[12:21] <ioria> kx112, there are alternatives to NM (e.g. wicd), but idk if it would solve your issue
[12:23] <zoomm10> kx112:  how do you know that is not i wifi interference problem?
[12:29] <kx112> zoomm10: Here are the logs: https://pastebin.com/raw/8DHMWxPB. The disconnection is caused due to getting a new IP when roaming between beacons.
[12:30] <kx112> ioria: I would prefer to use NetworkManager. I suppose I could upgrade my Ubuntu version to one with a new NM version, but I'd prefer to stick with an LTS version. However, if I cannot resolve this, I will probably have little other option, as the disconnects are very frequent at the moment.
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[12:51] <magga> anyone knows what the Night Shift thingie to reduce eye strain uses under the hood?
[12:56] <ioria> magga, probably something like redshift
[13:09] <magga> ioria: ok
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[14:22] <johnfg> Now, after killing that dialog box, and shutting the update down, apt update says this:, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock. It is held by process 181282 (aptd)
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> try a reboot johnfg
[14:23] <johnfg> lotuspsychje: do you think that would be better than killing the process?
[14:32] <alessandro_> irc://irc.artikanet.org/GALAXY
[14:34] <u0_a255> hey
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[14:52] <paul424> Hello, hello, I have a machine with one disc booting by default to Windows, how do I make it booting Ubuntu by default ( already installed )  ?
[14:54] <Znevna> you change the boot order?
[14:55] <paul424> yes, I want ot change boot order
[15:06] <pavlos> paul424: you can change in bios which disk to boot from
[15:30] <johnfg> Just got this: dpkg: too many errors, stopping
[15:30] <Terminal-V> Hi. Is there a good way to see how much disk space is being use and how much is free in Ubuntu Server 20.04 LTS?
[15:31] <pavlos> Terminal-V: df -h | awk '$NF=="/"{printf "Disk Usage: %d/%d GB (%s)\n", $3,$2,$5}'
[15:31] <v0lZy> hi
[15:31] <Terminal-V> pavlos is there a good way for normal people?
[15:31] <v0lZy> General netplan/networkmanager issues someone might be able to help with ...
[15:32] <ioria> Terminal-V, just 'df -h'
[15:32] <Terminal-V> ioria I found that meaningless.
[15:32] <ioria> really ?
[15:32] <Terminal-V> ioria yes. isn't there just a total sum figure with some simple command?
[15:33] <pavlos> Terminal-V: you can alias df to what I typed  ... mine says, Disk Usage: 50/219 GB (24%)
[15:33] <v0lZy> I have 2 files in /etc/netplan ... one to bring up enp2s0 without an IP (using rendered NetworkManager) and the other to bring up vswitch0 with dhcp (using networkd as renderer) ... I am currently connected the way I need to be, but nmcli dev shows only unmanaged devices... however, it should show enp2s0 as managed, no?
[15:33] <Terminal-V> pavlos sweet. What is the command?
[15:34] <Terminal-V> Can 'df' be used to show the total sum of used and free for /?
[15:34] <pavlos> Terminal-V: at the end of .bashrc add the command I gave. Any time you pop a terminal it will show Disk Usage
[15:34] <Terminal-V> pavlos I'm not typing in that crazy command.
[15:34] <Terminal-V> I'd rather boot Windows
[15:34] <pavlos> ok
[15:35] <Terminal-V> ok fuck this shit. im done
[15:35] <ioria> who's this people ?
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[15:41] <v0lZy> alol
[15:41] <v0lZy> rage quit at df -h ? :D
[15:41] <v0lZy> yeah, those people are never going to survive in a Linux OS, forget it..
[15:41] <v0lZy> "dont you understand man, I dont want to remember!"
[15:42] <ioria> v0lZy, what you mean with 'without an IP' ?
[15:43] <v0lZy> ioria: i just need the link state up.
[15:43] <ioria> oh,ok
[15:43] <v0lZy> but I don't want an IP configuration on it.
[15:43] <v0lZy> I have this working, by the looks of ip add output
[15:43] <v0lZy> and if i inspect /run/systemd/network files, it looks properly applied
[15:43] <v0lZy> yet, NetworkManager insists that its not managing anything
[15:44] <ioria> not sure if NM can manage two .yaml files
[15:44] <v0lZy> which causes a problem with cockpit, which needs NetworkManager to manage something, else it thinks its offline and doesnt bother showing me updates.
[15:44] <v0lZy> im not using it to manage 2 yaml files, so thats fine
[15:44] <v0lZy> I'm using networkd as renderer in one file, and NetworkManager as renderer in the other file.
[15:46] <ioria> v0lZy, afaik, when you use networkd, would be recommended to stop and disable NM, and viceversa
[15:47] <v0lZy> yeah, cant have that
[15:47] <v0lZy> ubuntu packages debian's NEtworkManager which doesn't provide means to manage openvswitch
[15:47] <v0lZy> so have ot use systemd-networkd for that directly
[15:47] <v0lZy> but cockpit required NetworkManager
[15:47] <ioria> i see
[15:48] <pavlos> there is a cockpit-networkmanager module
[15:48] <v0lZy> from what I understand, systemd-networkd is what does networking, netplan is a declarative way of doing networking (think ansible and automation etc) and NetworkManager is a daemon that ensures networking is seamlessly transitioning on events
[15:49] <v0lZy> like unplug laptop from ethernet port, ensures that its on wifi, etc
[15:49] <v0lZy> in that sense, there shouldnt be any conflcit between netplan and networkmanager
[15:49] <v0lZy> as long as you properly have 1 file per each interface
[15:49] <v0lZy> cockpit-networkmanager I have... but as said, issue is with cockpit consulting network manager before it renders updates ont he page
[15:50] <v0lZy> if networkmanager is showing no managed devices, then it doesnt show updates
[15:50] <v0lZy> in my case, i am trying to get NetworkManager to manage the enp2s0 device
[15:50] <v0lZy> and in this sense, 'manage' means 'bring the link up without dhcp'
[15:51] <v0lZy> but from what i understand, network manager at the end of the day does the exact same thing as if i go and write manual files for systemd-networkd
[15:52] <v0lZy> so the whole concept of it 'managing' something is quite arbitrary - we tell it which interfaces it should manage (via netplan files)
[15:52] <v0lZy> in my case, it seems to do what I tell it, but not register that its 'managing' that interface.
[15:53] <v0lZy> (so ultimately, I do have the network set up the way I want it to, its just the effing NetworkManager saying 'Managing enp2s0? Who? Me? Nooo.'
[15:57] <pavlos> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/change-netplan-renderer-from-networkd-to-networkmanager/
[15:58] <ioria> v0lZy, someone replied to that issue, with a 'Ok, do not manage your network interfaces through Cockpit' (and use networkd, masking the servie)
[15:58] <ioria> *service
[16:03] <v0lZy> so, its not about using cockpit to manage networking
[16:03] <v0lZy> its about cockpit showing updates available to the system
[16:03] <v0lZy> that simply doesnt work without networkmanager
[16:04] <v0lZy> and networkmanager simply doesnt work with openvswitch (because Debian)
[16:04] <v0lZy> I have a situation where I have this unlucky combo
[16:33] <paul424> pavlos, no , ITS only ONE disc
[16:33] <paul424>  Hello, hello, I have a machine with one disc booting by default to Windows, how do I make it booting Ubuntu by default ( already installed )  ?
[16:36] <toddc> paul424: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  easiest way assuming bios can see ubuntu drive   then ubuntu grub program will allow both ubuntu and windows boot from grub
[16:37] <paul424> I'm in /etc/default/grub
[16:48] <ick> Hi what is GIMP called in Ubuntu 22.04 ?  "Package gimp is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> !info gimp jammy
[16:48] <ubottu> gimp (2.10.30-1build1, jammy): GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component universe, is optional. Built by gimp. Size 4,807 kB / 20,562 kB
[16:48] <mosfet> apt-cache search keyword
[16:48] <jeremy31> Gnome image manipulation program
[16:56] <ick> Is there an apt package?
[16:56] <raffo> Hello, I'm trying to compile a 32-bit version of a program on Ubuntu 20.04. I'm passing the -m32 flag to the compiler and linker, but I keep getting a persistent error message about a missing library.
[16:56] <mosfet> have you enabled 32 bit arcitecutre?
[16:56] <raffo> No missing, but incompatible.
[16:57] <raffo> "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc"
[16:58] <mosfet> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[16:58] <mosfet> try that
[16:58] <raffo> I'm more familiar with another Linux distribution, but I have a need to compile this program on an Ubuntu installation. I've installed all kinds of i386 versions of the GCC deval packages, but no luck with this.
[16:58] <mosfet> then sudo apt-get update and dist-upgrade, if you really want to be fancy you could make the whole thing a single liner ;)
[16:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> do you have other builds of libgcc which it's not skipping?
[17:00] <ick> mosfet: apt-cache search gimp shows gimp-data and xsane and libraries.  What is the name of the apt package for "Gnome image manipulation program"?
[17:01] <raffo> NoImNotNineVolt: I don't know. There are a bunch of versions of this library, e.g. /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/9/libgcc.a, but I don't know why they are not being picked up.
[17:02] <ick> gimp website promotes a flatpak, and snap advertises a gimp snap.  Has it been removed from apt repositories?
[17:02] <Guest74> according to the truth lyed therein, I assume yes
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[17:03] <Guest74> in accordance to the prophecies down the pipes of mario bros.
[17:04] <Guest74> anyone know if ubuntu 23.04 is that much different than ubuntu 14.04?
[17:06] <Guest74> they both use the linux kernel, there is applications like uuuuhhh uuuhhh terminal
[17:06] <Guest74> the security is almost identical
[17:07] <Guest74> Ich rests his case
[17:07] <rfm> ick, I don't have any trouble finding the gimp package in jammy. do you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:07] <raffo> I've got the package libgcc-9-dev:i386 which owns that library. Don't know why it is not used during linking.
[17:08] <lick> rfm what does 'apt info gimp' say to you? mine says "Can't select versions from package 'gimp' as it is purely virtual"
[17:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> raffo: normally when i run into problems like this i'm unable to resolve them myself.
[17:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> good luck.
[17:09] <Guest74> I resolve with a revolver around a planet that circles stars
[17:09] <raffo> mosfet: I did the add-architecture command and the dist-upgrade. A few packages were installed, all amd64 architecture. It did not have any effect.
[17:10] <Guest74> then the effect was irrelevant to the cause of action, and it was good
[17:11] <lick> rfm: I have lines like this, is it enough?  deb https://mirror...../ubuntu/ jammy universe
[17:11] <rfm> lick, https://termbin.com/cuzg is what i get from apt info gimp
[17:15] <lick> oh weird why do you get a real package and I get a dummy?  Are you using 22.04.03 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) ?
[17:15] <rfm> lick, I would be suspicious of the mirror being busted, or maybe a bad locally cached version?  "apt clean" and maybe try a different mirror
[17:15] <nunya> does anyone know how to exclude an application from software updater ubuntu Thunderbird 115 sucks and I don't wat the software udater downloading updates. I have locked the version I want in Synaptic but "Software Updater" keeps downloading a newer version.
[17:15] <nunya> I'm on Ubuntu 22.04
[17:16] <rfm> lick, this was installed with 22.04 but has been upgraded all along so its effectively 22.04.3
[17:16] <pavlos> sudo apt-mark hold <package-name>
[17:16] <lick> rfm, yes that is how I got here also.
[17:17] <pavlos> nunya: sudo apt-mark hold <package-name>
[17:17] <nunya> I still want it to download other updates to other applications and have the otion to install these updates just not Thunderbird
[17:18] <lick> hmm 'apt update' now gives me dozens of lines of output repeating 'Get:24 https://mirror.enzu.com/ubuntu jammy i386 Contents (deb) [36.9 MB]'
[17:20] <lick> I just started using this mirror a  day or two ago, maybe its buggy
[17:24] <pavlos> nunya: to allow updates change hold to unhold.
[17:26] <nunya> pavlos: Thanks!
[17:31] <lick> thanks rfm!    apt clean; apt update changed the gimp package
[17:31] <raffo> Is there a tutorial for how to setup an Ubuntu installation so that the necessary development packages are installed to compile 32-bit binaries?
[17:32] <lick> I'm puzzled because I though apt info was supposed to be cryptographically signed and verified.
[17:34] <ioria> raffo, https://devicetests.com/understanding-gcc-multilib-ubuntu
[17:36] <ioria> lick, do you mean this ? http://mirror.enzu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-updates/
[17:38] <pick>  I'm puzzled because I though apt info was supposed to be cryptographically signed and verified;  how could  apt clean; apt update change the gimp package from dummy to actual package?
[17:39] <ioria> lick, do you mean this ? http://mirror.enzu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-updates/  ; if yes seems that last update was on 26-Jan-2023
[17:40] <ioria> pick, ^
[17:49] <pick> ioria: that's odd, I'm pretty sure the ubuntu mirror list called it up to date!!
[17:50] <pick> Is updating once a year sufficient for a mirror ?
[17:50] <adrh> any unity enjoyers
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | adrh
[17:51] <ubottu> adrh: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
[17:51] <raffo> ioria: it doesn't want to install that package, some dependency: "Depends: gcc-9-multilib (>= 9.3.0-3~) but it is not going to be installed"
[17:53] <raffo> In any case, it's f'd up. In trying to manually install other packages, I accidentally removed a bunch of i386 packages. They're not available in ther current repos for installation.
[17:53] <ioria> raffo, apt-cache policy gcc-9-multilib
[17:53] <pick> rfm ioria : why wouldn't apt catch that it was being offered old lists from a mirror?
[17:54] <ioria> pick, my advice  (for now) is  just  not trust that mirror
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[17:58] <raffo> ioria: I lost a bunch of library I needed to build my program, w/o it I can't use this machine.
[17:59] <Guest22> ablookahdareeeee
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[18:21] <Guest55> Hello Ubuntu Team
[18:22] <Guest55> I wonder if you are available to guide me on install an app on Ubuntu
[18:23] <leftyfb> Guest55: sudo apt install <name of your app>
[18:24] <Guest55> yes, its a inverter monitoring app called Watchpower, comes in Linux 64bits version: https://www.mppsolar.com/v3/download/
[18:24] <leftyfb> Guest55: you'll need to follow their instructions on how to install it and seek support from them if you have issues with it
[18:25] <Guest55> it requires jre and jdk but I cannot manage to get it running on several rp4 distros
[18:25] <Guest55> leftyfb: I already ask them but they didnt give app support
[18:26] <leftyfb> Guest55: then if the app vendor doesn't provide support for their app, I wouldn't use it
[18:27] <Guest55> I have been trying , like using wine to run it as win  .exe app without avail , also darling to run it as macos but cannot install gcc-multilib
[18:28] <leftyfb> good luck
[18:28] <Guest55> leftyfb: I cannot as its the only app able to monitor via usb the device i need
[18:43] <Zed`> is there a default cli browser installed with ubuntu 22?
[18:43] <Zed`> elinks, lynx and flinks did not work :)
[18:44] <Zed`> nor did xdg-open hehe
[18:45] <Zed`> x-www-browser google.com
[19:28] <nasum> hello how can i see the total size of installed packages?
[19:28] <nasum> DeepAI recommended this command:  sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions && apt-show-versions -b | grep -v uptodate | awk '{print $2} ' | xargs apt-cache show | grep "^Size: " | awk '{print $2}' | paste -sd+ - | bc && apt-get purge --auto-remove -y apt-show-versions
[19:29] <nasum> what do you think of this command?
[19:39] <EriC^^> nasum: seems bit convoluted and unnecessary in many ways
[19:41] <EriC^^> nasum: you could use something like dpkg -l | awk '$1 =="ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache show | awk '$1 == "Size: " {print $2}' |....
[19:43] <EriC^^> not sure why you need apt-show-versions
[19:46] <ioria> nasum, i'd use dpkg-query
[19:46] <ioria> dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n | awk '{print $1}'
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[19:49] <EriC^^> nice ioria
[19:50] <EriC^^> nasum: this should get the total size like the earlier command "dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\n' | paste -sd+ - | bc"
[19:50] <ioria> let's try:  dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | awk '{print $1}'> sum ; awk '{ sum += $1 } END { print sum }' sum
[19:52] <EriC^^> something isnt right though
[19:52] <ioria> EriC^^, how you  doing EriC^^ ? all good ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> i get like 9mb for mine, if you do apt-cache show <package> , the size shows a number but in dpkg-query a different one, wonder whats going on
[19:53] <EriC^^> hey ioria , all good here thanks :) what about you?
[19:53] <ioria> EriC^^, same stuff, boring ... but it's ok
[19:53] <ioria> EriC^^, 9mb ?
[19:54] <EriC^^> yup i got the number 9794152
[19:57] <EriC^^> maybe it's not in bytes?
[19:59] <ioria> nope, kb
[20:00] <ioria> i think; https://serverfault.com/questions/291743/on-a-debian-system-how-is-the-installed-size-field-of-the-control-file-used
[20:01] <EriC^^> yup
[20:02] <ioria> have a nice night
[20:10] <josh_> Greetings! Has anyone upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04 to Ubuntu 23.04?
[20:12] <josh_> If so, can you share with me the differences?
[20:39] <tripstah> josh_: try this search: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what's+new+in+ubuntu+23.04
[21:38] <arctix> hey guys!
[21:42] <matsaman> heyo
[22:56] <tripstah> jose: there'll be a new ubuntu release next month, 23.10 mantic minotaur on october 12th.
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[23:18] <Guest7158> y4
[23:22] <BinarySavior> can't seem to find this package in ubuntu repo: https://github.com/xioTechnologies/Fusion
[23:29] <Eickmeyer> BinarySavior: libgtsam4?
[23:29] <BinarySavior> is that it?
[23:29] <Eickmeyer> !info libgtsam4
[23:29] <ubottu> Package libgtsam4 does not exist in lunar
[23:29] <Eickmeyer> ...
[23:30] <Eickmeyer> BinarySavior: It'll be in 23.10, but not before.
[23:31] <guiverc> yep I see only `libgtsam4 | 4.2~9+dfsg-5 | mantic/universe | amd64, arm64, riscv64, s390x`
[23:31] <BinarySavior> ahh okay
[23:31] <BinarySavior> must be new
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> Only 48 commits on github, I'd assume so.
[23:35] <BinarySavior> how can i monitor progress of unattended upgrades?
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