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ahasenack_Eickmeyer: looking at the lunar edubuntu-menu and ubuntustudio-menu SRUs, the edubuntu-menu package hasn't "matured" yet in the queue, just 5 days13:22
ahasenack_Eickmeyer: I suppose it's best to release both at the same time? ubuntustudio-menu has aged and would be good to go13:23
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smosernot sure where to report this, but https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man1/openssl-rehash.1ssl.html , which should be openssl-rehash man page contains content for openssl-x50913:34
ahasenackI reported some of those already :/13:34
ahasenackto add it to the mix, follow the link at the bottom of the page to report bugs13:35
ahasenackI'll bring it up in standup today13:36
ahasenackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository13:36
smoserahasenack: thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository/+bug/203697813:49
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036978 in Ubuntu Manpage Repository "openssl-rehash man page for jammy contains content for openssl-x509" [Undecided, New]13:49
ahasenackarighi: hi, around?14:08
ahasenackaradesh: it's about LP: #202366114:08
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2023661 in rtl8812au (Ubuntu Lunar) "rtl8812au-dkms FTBS with linux 6.2 in jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202366114:08
Eickmeyerahasenack: Honestly, getting ubuntustudio-menu out asap would be best because we *need* the menu items updated for the IRC redirect as opposed to the dead Matrix rooms.14:19
ahasenackEickmeyer: ok, I added another question to the bug, could you please take a look?14:20
EickmeyerSure.14:20
Eickmeyerahasenack: The SRU I was referring to was bug 203399214:22
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2033992 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] Change Ubuntu Studio Chat from Matrix to IRC" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203399214:22
EickmeyerJust FYI14:22
ahasenackah, correct, my comment was on the other one14:22
ahasenackbut it also changes ubuntustudio-menu14:22
Eickmeyerahasenack: Answered your comment. That was a great question, and I haven't had my coffee yet, so it took me a minute.14:28
ahasenackand I had 3 coffees already, before lunch14:28
EickmeyerD:14:28
Eickmeyerer.. :D14:28
Eickmeyer(ignore the gasping face)14:29
ahasenackI had no idea D: meant that14:29
EickmeyerIt does on Twitch, and I sometimes get my chat syntax messed-up.14:30
EickmeyerI can make emojis on my chat client though. 😂14:30
mirespaceHi! I'm working in the dovecot FTBFS on arm64 from the mantic rebuild, and I found that if I disable the -mbranch-protection it works... I saw that flag was not set by default before.14:44
mirespacehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/203626814:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036268 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in arm64: backtrace failures in build-time tests" [High, New]14:45
mirespaceIt seems it affects libunwind (another possibility to fix the ftbfs is removing the libunwind-dev - it was done in the past-), but for me, feels like a regression dropping the dependency14:47
mirespaceI don't know if is the return protection or the jump protection, or both, so I'm going to play with the mbrnach-protection flag values ... but I wouldn't want to simply remove the flag, and try to see what is happening14:50
mirespaceany clues appreciated...and sharing in the case other arm64 builds can be affected14:50
mirespace_afk_14:52
arighiahasenack, about LP: #2023661 I double checked the fix in lunar (just to make sure it still works) and I've tried to upload the package (theoretically I should have dkms upload rights, but some of the dkms are not in the dkms group), we'll see in a bit if it shows up in -proposed...14:55
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2023661 in rtl8812au (Ubuntu Lunar) "rtl8812au-dkms FTBS with linux 6.2 in jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202366114:55
ahasenackarighi: awesome, thanks. If it doesn't, maybe reach out to patch pilot and see if someone can sponsor it for you14:55
arighiahasenack, ok14:56
Eickmeyerahasenack: RE https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/2025196/comments/18: What if I left the file in place in the prerm and, since the postinst checks to see if the file is there and doesn't overwrite if it's there?16:54
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2025196 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] Conflicts with edubuntu-menu and ubuntustudio-menu" [High, Fix Committed]16:54
ahasenackthere is the question of who owns it, and should remove it. When/if both packages are removed, or just one, what will eventually remove that file?16:55
ahasenackand is that related to the matrix->irc change? Can't you leave that for another upload?16:55
Eickmeyerahasenack: It's not related to the matrix -> irc change. It just happened to coincide.16:57
Eickmeyerwhat about a case $1 in upgrade, etc.16:57
ahasenackI don't like to rush a fix like this. This needs to be thought out16:57
ahasenackto be honest, what caught my eye at first was exactly the unconditional remove/reinstall bit, for every single upgrade16:58
EickmeyerRight, alot of that was legacy (before Eickmeyer) code that I have been working with, so I can refactor it to be conditional.16:59
ahasenackbut I don't know what that file means, "/etc/dconf/profile/user" doesn't sound specific to edubuntu or ubuntustudio16:59
ahasenackyet currently in lunar at least, those are the only two packages providing it17:00
EickmeyerSo, it's more specific to edubuntu (or really any GNOME install) that it enables a database configuration profile to be enabled.17:00
EickmeyerIt essentially enables pre-configured appfolders in the Applications overview.17:00
Eickmeyerubunutustudio-menu is meant to be DE-agnostic in that way.17:01
ahasenackis the name "user" special?17:02
ahasenackI have a /etc/dconf/profile/ibus on my system (only file in that dir), owned by the ibus package17:02
Eickmeyerahasenack: I don't remember, but it's what worked iirc.17:03
EickmeyerI can try renaming it, I suppose, and see what happens.17:04
* Eickmeyer tests17:04
ahasenackI think it's best if this can be thought about a little more. BUt then again, I'n not a desktop guy, and /etc/dconf is not my cup of tea, so I'm not even qualified to review the inner workings of that17:05
EickmeyerSure. Being a desktop guy on both Plasma and GNOME, this is the kind of thing I have to worry about. 😅17:05
* ahasenack bows17:05
jbichaEickmeyer: it is possible to do what you need with gsettings overrides instead of dconf directly?17:27
Eickmeyerjbicha: Tried, didn't work.17:28
EickmeyerEspecially for users that are installing after-the-fact. This mostly stems from when someone installs lsp-plugins, it will completely jam-up their activities overview with identical icons.17:30
EickmeyerThe desire to have an appfolder in that case is very high.17:30
EickmeyerWe're talking hundreds of icons.17:31
jbichathe best docs I know for dconf for sysadmin (or distro admin) are https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable17:37
jbichafor instance, keys can be locked down to prevent being changed17:37
jbichathe last time I dealt with trying to tweak gnome-menus, I remember it not working as well as I wanted :(17:39
Eickmeyerjbicha: Yeah, that didn't work so well. The good news is I just figured out a solution for what we've got.17:45
Eickmeyerahasenack: Renaming "user" to "edubuntu" seems to have worked as expected, so I can probably go that route with both.17:45
ahasenackwhat about co-instalability of those two packages? Would each use a different name?17:46
EickmeyerYes. They both have the same contents and are telling the system to do the exact same thing, so again, not a factor.17:46
ahasenackplease make sure to update the test case with something creative about this :)17:47
EickmeyerOne would simply be "edubuntu", the other would be "ubuntustudio".17:47
ahasenackinstall one, check your thing, install the other, check, then install both at the same time, check again17:47
EickmeyerYep. :)17:47
ahasenackgreat17:48
ahasenackphew17:48
ahasenackwould be good perhaps, if you have this info, to have a reference in the [other information] part about what this file does (high level), if there are naming conventions for files in /etc/dconf/profile/* (or if they are all just read and merged together)17:49
ahasenackI did an apt-file search for /etc/dconf/profile, in lunar, and only two packages currently have content there: ibus, and ubuntustudio-menu17:50
EickmeyerThey're all read and merged together. Same thing happens in /etc/dconf/db/site.d where, if you have both installed in mantic, you have 00_edubuntu, 00_ubuntustudio, and 01_appfolders (which gets generated dynamically) and are all merged together.17:51
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ahasenackEickmeyer: I'll continue tomorrow morning, my brain is fried for today, but it looks good21:31
Eickmeyerahasenack: Awesome. Have a good evening! o/21:32
ahasenackyou too21:32

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