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[13:22] <ahasenack_> Eickmeyer: looking at the lunar edubuntu-menu and ubuntustudio-menu SRUs, the edubuntu-menu package hasn't "matured" yet in the queue, just 5 days
[13:23] <ahasenack_> Eickmeyer: I suppose it's best to release both at the same time? ubuntustudio-menu has aged and would be good to go
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[13:34] <smoser> not sure where to report this, but https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man1/openssl-rehash.1ssl.html , which should be openssl-rehash man page contains content for openssl-x509
[13:34] <ahasenack> I reported some of those already :/
[13:35] <ahasenack> to add it to the mix, follow the link at the bottom of the page to report bugs
[13:36] <ahasenack> I'll bring it up in standup today
[13:36] <ahasenack> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository
[13:49] <smoser> ahasenack: thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository/+bug/2036978
[13:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036978 in Ubuntu Manpage Repository "openssl-rehash man page for jammy contains content for openssl-x509" [Undecided, New]
[14:08] <ahasenack> arighi: hi, around?
[14:08] <ahasenack> aradesh: it's about LP: #2023661
[14:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2023661 in rtl8812au (Ubuntu Lunar) "rtl8812au-dkms FTBS with linux 6.2 in jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023661
[14:19] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: Honestly, getting ubuntustudio-menu out asap would be best because we *need* the menu items updated for the IRC redirect as opposed to the dead Matrix rooms.
[14:20] <ahasenack> Eickmeyer: ok, I added another question to the bug, could you please take a look?
[14:20] <Eickmeyer> Sure.
[14:22] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: The SRU I was referring to was bug 2033992
[14:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2033992 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] Change Ubuntu Studio Chat from Matrix to IRC" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033992
[14:22] <Eickmeyer> Just FYI
[14:22] <ahasenack> ah, correct, my comment was on the other one
[14:22] <ahasenack> but it also changes ubuntustudio-menu
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: Answered your comment. That was a great question, and I haven't had my coffee yet, so it took me a minute.
[14:28] <ahasenack> and I had 3 coffees already, before lunch
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> D:
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> er.. :D
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> (ignore the gasping face)
[14:29] <ahasenack> I had no idea D: meant that
[14:30] <Eickmeyer> It does on Twitch, and I sometimes get my chat syntax messed-up.
[14:30] <Eickmeyer> I can make emojis on my chat client though. 😂
[14:44] <mirespace> Hi! I'm working in the dovecot FTBFS on arm64 from the mantic rebuild, and I found that if I disable the -mbranch-protection it works... I saw that flag was not set by default before.
[14:45] <mirespace> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/2036268
[14:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036268 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in arm64: backtrace failures in build-time tests" [High, New]
[14:47] <mirespace> It seems it affects libunwind (another possibility to fix the ftbfs is removing the libunwind-dev - it was done in the past-), but for me, feels like a regression dropping the dependency
[14:50] <mirespace> I don't know if is the return protection or the jump protection, or both, so I'm going to play with the mbrnach-protection flag values ... but I wouldn't want to simply remove the flag, and try to see what is happening
[14:50] <mirespace> any clues appreciated...and sharing in the case other arm64 builds can be affected
[14:52] <mirespace> _afk_
[14:55] <arighi> ahasenack, about LP: #2023661 I double checked the fix in lunar (just to make sure it still works) and I've tried to upload the package (theoretically I should have dkms upload rights, but some of the dkms are not in the dkms group), we'll see in a bit if it shows up in -proposed...
[14:55] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2023661 in rtl8812au (Ubuntu Lunar) "rtl8812au-dkms FTBS with linux 6.2 in jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023661
[14:55] <ahasenack> arighi: awesome, thanks. If it doesn't, maybe reach out to patch pilot and see if someone can sponsor it for you
[14:56] <arighi> ahasenack, ok
[16:54] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: RE https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/2025196/comments/18: What if I left the file in place in the prerm and, since the postinst checks to see if the file is there and doesn't overwrite if it's there?
[16:54] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2025196 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] Conflicts with edubuntu-menu and ubuntustudio-menu" [High, Fix Committed]
[16:55] <ahasenack> there is the question of who owns it, and should remove it. When/if both packages are removed, or just one, what will eventually remove that file?
[16:55] <ahasenack> and is that related to the matrix->irc change? Can't you leave that for another upload?
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: It's not related to the matrix -> irc change. It just happened to coincide.
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> what about a case $1 in upgrade, etc.
[16:57] <ahasenack> I don't like to rush a fix like this. This needs to be thought out
[16:58] <ahasenack> to be honest, what caught my eye at first was exactly the unconditional remove/reinstall bit, for every single upgrade
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> Right, alot of that was legacy (before Eickmeyer) code that I have been working with, so I can refactor it to be conditional.
[16:59] <ahasenack> but I don't know what that file means, "/etc/dconf/profile/user" doesn't sound specific to edubuntu or ubuntustudio
[17:00] <ahasenack> yet currently in lunar at least, those are the only two packages providing it
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> So, it's more specific to edubuntu (or really any GNOME install) that it enables a database configuration profile to be enabled.
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> It essentially enables pre-configured appfolders in the Applications overview.
[17:01] <Eickmeyer> ubunutustudio-menu is meant to be DE-agnostic in that way.
[17:02] <ahasenack> is the name "user" special?
[17:02] <ahasenack> I have a /etc/dconf/profile/ibus on my system (only file in that dir), owned by the ibus package
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: I don't remember, but it's what worked iirc.
[17:04] <Eickmeyer> I can try renaming it, I suppose, and see what happens.
[17:04]  * Eickmeyer tests
[17:05] <ahasenack> I think it's best if this can be thought about a little more. BUt then again, I'n not a desktop guy, and /etc/dconf is not my cup of tea, so I'm not even qualified to review the inner workings of that
[17:05] <Eickmeyer> Sure. Being a desktop guy on both Plasma and GNOME, this is the kind of thing I have to worry about. 😅
[17:05]  * ahasenack bows
[17:27] <jbicha> Eickmeyer: it is possible to do what you need with gsettings overrides instead of dconf directly?
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> jbicha: Tried, didn't work.
[17:30] <Eickmeyer> Especially for users that are installing after-the-fact. This mostly stems from when someone installs lsp-plugins, it will completely jam-up their activities overview with identical icons.
[17:30] <Eickmeyer> The desire to have an appfolder in that case is very high.
[17:31] <Eickmeyer> We're talking hundreds of icons.
[17:37] <jbicha> the best docs I know for dconf for sysadmin (or distro admin) are https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable
[17:37] <jbicha> for instance, keys can be locked down to prevent being changed
[17:39] <jbicha> the last time I dealt with trying to tweak gnome-menus, I remember it not working as well as I wanted :(
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> jbicha: Yeah, that didn't work so well. The good news is I just figured out a solution for what we've got.
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: Renaming "user" to "edubuntu" seems to have worked as expected, so I can probably go that route with both.
[17:46] <ahasenack> what about co-instalability of those two packages? Would each use a different name?
[17:46] <Eickmeyer> Yes. They both have the same contents and are telling the system to do the exact same thing, so again, not a factor.
[17:47] <ahasenack> please make sure to update the test case with something creative about this :)
[17:47] <Eickmeyer> One would simply be "edubuntu", the other would be "ubuntustudio".
[17:47] <ahasenack> install one, check your thing, install the other, check, then install both at the same time, check again
[17:47] <Eickmeyer> Yep. :)
[17:48] <ahasenack> great
[17:48] <ahasenack> phew
[17:49] <ahasenack> would be good perhaps, if you have this info, to have a reference in the [other information] part about what this file does (high level), if there are naming conventions for files in /etc/dconf/profile/* (or if they are all just read and merged together)
[17:50] <ahasenack> I did an apt-file search for /etc/dconf/profile, in lunar, and only two packages currently have content there: ibus, and ubuntustudio-menu
[17:51] <Eickmeyer> They're all read and merged together. Same thing happens in /etc/dconf/db/site.d where, if you have both installed in mantic, you have 00_edubuntu, 00_ubuntustudio, and 01_appfolders (which gets generated dynamically) and are all merged together.
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[21:31] <ahasenack> Eickmeyer: I'll continue tomorrow morning, my brain is fried for today, but it looks good
[21:32] <Eickmeyer> ahasenack: Awesome. Have a good evening! o/
[21:32] <ahasenack> you too