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| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:00 |
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| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:00:52 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:00 |
| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds[O[I | 15:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 15:00 |
| ogayot | o/ | 15:01 |
| zhsj | o/ | 15:01 |
| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:01 |
| pushkarnk | o/ | 15:01 |
| liushuyu | o/ | 15:01 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 15:01 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-21-sep-2023/ | 15:01 |
| juliank | Let's take until :10 to read and discuss | 15:01 |
| juliank | that's about 8 minutes now | 15:02 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 15:02 |
| ginggs | o/ | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | I wish discourse would auto-linkfy bugs | 15:04 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 15:05 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:10 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | "Writing a lot of text and talking to a couple of people" | 15:10 |
| juliank | bug 2036765 | 15:10 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036765 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-release-upgrader failed to upgrade snap to track new release" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036765 | 15:10 | |
| vorlon | '-fexcess-precision=' how about if we all just agree to have just enough precision instead of excess precision | 15:10 |
| vorlon | juliank: should be targeted, for sure | 15:11 |
| juliank | tagged and targeted | 15:12 |
| juliank | bug 2036441 | 15:12 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036441 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie cannot report crash reports from live environment" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036441 | 15:12 | |
| juliank | bdrung: | 15:12 |
| bdrung | Yes, we should analyze this bug | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | The reporter is questionable | 15:13 |
| vorlon | yeah they're always spamming launchpad with bugs, goes back years | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | lol | 15:14 |
| juliank | bug 2033440 | 15:14 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440 | 15:14 | |
| juliank | (I tagged previous one and targeted it) | 15:14 |
| juliank | We need better way to handle seed bugs so they don't all appear on our list? | 15:15 |
| vorlon | I don't immediately see good solutions and would rather we not try to overengineer | 15:16 |
| vorlon | we can just say "not for us" and move on | 15:16 |
| vorlon | (I think last week I also said "if I were the desktop team I would wontfix it") | 15:16 |
| juliank | Can't say not for us and keep it on the desktop teams incoming list, so just leave as is? | 15:17 |
| juliank | because we share the list | 15:17 |
| vorlon | yes, just leave as-is | 15:17 |
| juliank | I marked lunar as won't fix fwiw | 15:17 |
| juliank | bug 2036278 | 15:17 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036278 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "manifest claims two packages are both installed that conflict" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036278 | 15:17 | |
| juliank | Oh we absolutely need this tagged | 15:18 |
| vorlon | well, we fixed the actual bug causing this to happen | 15:18 |
| vorlon | this is more belt-and-braces to be able to stop buggy image builds sooner in the future | 15:19 |
| vorlon | so I wouldn't say we *have* to target it for mantic | 15:19 |
| * juliank thinks that should have been done with the fix, but ok | 15:19 | |
| vorlon | the fix was in ubiquity, not in livecd-rootfs | 15:19 |
| juliank | I'm not targeting it to mantic but tagged it todo | 15:19 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:20 |
| juliank | bug 2036440 | 15:20 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036440 | 15:20 | |
| danilogondolfo | this guy again | 15:20 |
| vorlon | the gnome-shell part is not us and maybe is a duplicate | 15:21 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: did you want the apport part targeted? | 15:21 |
| juliank | I got lost a bit sorry | 15:22 |
| juliank | The apport part is actually a gnome-shell part, though | 15:22 |
| juliank | AFAIUI | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | Let me check the retarcer and see if there are more "Invalid core dump" issues | 15:22 |
| juliank | The gnome-shell hook should collect more data | 15:22 |
| bdrung | and apport should already collect that information | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2036440/comments/3 | 15:23 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:23 | |
| vorlon | bdmurray: if you're checking, I guess we should move on for now? | 15:23 |
| bdrung | It could be just another case of bug #2015857 | 15:23 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015857 in apport (Ubuntu) "Repeatedly unusable truncated crash files (on log-out)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015857 | 15:23 | |
| vorlon | or do you want it targeted | 15:23 |
| juliank | let's move on discussion and we can discuss later so we don't go derail | 15:23 |
| juliank | bug 2036761 | 15:24 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036761 in ppa-purge (Ubuntu) "[mantic] ppa-purge no longer purges what add-apt-repository adds" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036761 | 15:24 | |
| vorlon | (if there's work for us to do and that we're prioritizing, IMHO better to just target it to document that) | 15:24 |
| vorlon | I guess ppa-purge doesn't need fixed for mantic given the rollback of the transition | 15:24 |
| juliank | there should be a qa-todo :D | 15:24 |
| juliank | vorlon: we rolled back sources.list->ubuntu.sources not ppa .sources | 15:24 |
| vorlon | ah | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | There are half a dozen "not a core dump" failures with Launchpad crash reports | 15:25 |
| juliank | Yeah communication is not clear from everyone | 15:25 |
| vorlon | juliank: in that case I guess we should take it | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | I can't check the Error Tracker retracers b/c reasons | 15:25 |
| juliank | vorlon: Yes | 15:25 |
| bdrung | bdmurray, are those all crashing gnome-shells or are there other affected packages as well? | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | geez | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | so many questions | 15:26 |
| juliank | move that discussion to -devel perhaps? | 15:26 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:26 |
| juliank | empty! | 15:26 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:26 |
| juliank | bug 1990798 | 15:26 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 | 15:26 | |
| juliank | It will expire in 37 days, I guess ignore it | 15:27 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:28 |
| juliank | empty! | 15:28 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:28 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:28 |
| dbungert | one more - bug 2036424 | 15:28 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036424 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "Mantic s390x install fails: grep-status: *** stack smashing detected ***: terminated" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036424 | 15:28 | |
| juliank | oh sorry | 15:28 |
| dbungert | we have a sort of plan for s390x using edge channel core22 for builds, but I don't know if the underlying issue is really resolved | 15:29 |
| dbungert | this appears to have started around glibc sru time but may well be that we're not doing patchelf correctly or similar | 15:29 |
| juliank | Well it needs fixing either way, so just tag and target it | 15:29 |
| dbungert | ok | 15:29 |
| juliank | I think this will create many annoying jira issues | 15:30 |
| juliank | vorlon: | 15:30 |
| juliank | (back to proposed-migration ;)) | 15:30 |
| vorlon | yeah, s390-tools still stuck on this MIR for rust bits | 15:31 |
| vorlon | zsh - liushuyu do you have a patch for i386 to disable building zsh-static? | 15:31 |
| vorlon | if you don't yet, I can cook one today and share it with you for review | 15:31 |
| juliank | (why do we even have zsh i386? :D) | 15:31 |
| liushuyu | vorlon: Haven't got time to write that patch | 15:31 |
| vorlon | juliank: you don't want to know | 15:31 |
| vorlon | juliank: (vlc build-depends on it :P) | 15:32 |
| ginggs | i'm looking at libfile-fcntllock-perl | 15:32 |
| vorlon | libfile-fcntllock-perl: ginggs | 15:32 |
| ginggs | it's the same test that fails in the test rebuild | 15:32 |
| juliank | 🤯 | 15:32 |
| vorlon | libevent, this was late because I didn't notice all the no-change rebuilds needed but it is now sorted | 15:33 |
| vorlon | just blocked by freeze | 15:33 |
| juliank | (this was exploding head emoji for those with broken unicode) | 15:33 |
| vorlon | so that's all on proposed-migration for us today | 15:33 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:33 |
| juliank | any other business? | 15:33 |
| adrien | I'll be away during 3 days next week and won't have time to do proposed-migration probably | 15:34 |
| juliank | adrien: did you get anything assigned or have leftover? | 15:36 |
| adrien | no, the last part of my message was the result of a race condition between messages :P | 15:36 |
| juliank | ah | 15:36 |
| juliank | sorry | 15:36 |
| adrien | sorry about that ;p | 15:37 |
| juliank | That wraps things up I think | 15:37 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:37:08 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-21-15.00.moin.txt | 15:37 |
| schopin | dbungert: the glibc SRU is actually at fault there. mwhudson seems to be on it? At least he has some more understanding of what's going on. | 15:49 |
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