[15:00] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:00] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds[O[I
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[15:01] <ogayot> o/
[15:01] <zhsj> o/
[15:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:01] <pushkarnk> o/
[15:01] <liushuyu> o/
[15:01] <mateus-morais> o/
[15:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-21-sep-2023/
[15:01] <juliank> Let's take until :10 to read and discuss
[15:02] <juliank> that's about 8 minutes now
[15:02] <mclemenceau> o/
[15:03] <ginggs> o/
[15:04] <bdmurray> I wish discourse would auto-linkfy bugs
[15:05] <dviererbe> o/
[15:10] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:10] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:10] <bdmurray> "Writing a lot of text and talking to a couple of people"
[15:10] <juliank> bug 2036765
[15:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036765 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-release-upgrader failed to upgrade snap to track new release" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036765
[15:10] <vorlon> '-fexcess-precision=' how about if we all just agree to have just enough precision instead of excess precision
[15:11] <vorlon> juliank: should be targeted, for sure
[15:12] <juliank> tagged and targeted
[15:12] <juliank> bug 2036441
[15:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036441 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie cannot report crash reports from live environment" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036441
[15:12] <juliank> bdrung:
[15:13] <bdrung> Yes, we should analyze this bug
[15:13] <bdmurray> The reporter is questionable
[15:14] <vorlon> yeah they're always spamming launchpad with bugs, goes back years
[15:14] <bdmurray> lol
[15:14] <juliank> bug 2033440
[15:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440
[15:14] <juliank> (I tagged previous one and targeted it)
[15:15] <juliank> We need better way to handle seed bugs so they don't all appear on our list?
[15:16] <vorlon> I don't immediately see good solutions and would rather we not try to overengineer
[15:16] <vorlon> we can just say "not for us" and move on
[15:16] <vorlon> (I think last week I also said "if I were the desktop team I would wontfix it")
[15:17] <juliank> Can't say not for us and keep it on the desktop teams incoming list, so just leave as is?
[15:17] <juliank> because we share the list
[15:17] <vorlon> yes, just leave as-is
[15:17] <juliank> I marked lunar as won't fix fwiw
[15:17] <juliank> bug 2036278
[15:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036278 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "manifest claims two packages are both installed that conflict" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036278
[15:18] <juliank> Oh we absolutely need this tagged
[15:18] <vorlon> well, we fixed the actual bug causing this to happen
[15:19] <vorlon> this is more belt-and-braces to be able to stop buggy image builds sooner in the future
[15:19] <vorlon> so I wouldn't say we *have* to target it for mantic
[15:19]  * juliank thinks that should have been done with the fix, but ok
[15:19] <vorlon> the fix was in ubiquity, not in livecd-rootfs
[15:19] <juliank> I'm not targeting it to mantic but tagged it todo
[15:20] <vorlon> ok
[15:20] <juliank> bug 2036440
[15:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036440
[15:20] <danilogondolfo> this guy again
[15:21] <vorlon> the gnome-shell part is not us and maybe is a duplicate
[15:21] <vorlon> bdmurray: did you want the apport part targeted?
[15:22] <juliank> I got lost a bit sorry
[15:22] <juliank> The apport part is actually a gnome-shell part, though
[15:22] <juliank> AFAIUI
[15:22] <bdmurray> Let me check the retarcer and see if there are more "Invalid core dump" issues
[15:22] <juliank> The gnome-shell hook should collect more data
[15:22] <bdrung> and apport should already collect that information
[15:23] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2036440/comments/3
[15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[15:23] <vorlon> bdmurray: if you're checking, I guess we should move on for now?
[15:23] <bdrung> It could be just another case of bug #2015857
[15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015857 in apport (Ubuntu) "Repeatedly unusable truncated crash files (on log-out)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015857
[15:23] <vorlon> or do you want it targeted
[15:23] <juliank> let's move on discussion and we can discuss later so we don't go derail
[15:24] <juliank> bug 2036761
[15:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036761 in ppa-purge (Ubuntu) "[mantic] ppa-purge no longer purges what add-apt-repository adds" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036761
[15:24] <vorlon> (if there's work for us to do and that we're prioritizing, IMHO better to just target it to document that)
[15:24] <vorlon> I guess ppa-purge doesn't need fixed for mantic given the rollback of the transition
[15:24] <juliank> there should be a qa-todo :D
[15:24] <juliank> vorlon: we rolled back sources.list->ubuntu.sources not ppa .sources
[15:25] <vorlon> ah
[15:25] <bdmurray> There are half a dozen "not a core dump" failures with Launchpad crash reports
[15:25] <juliank> Yeah communication is not clear from everyone
[15:25] <vorlon> juliank: in that case I guess we should take it
[15:25] <bdmurray> I can't check the Error Tracker retracers b/c reasons
[15:25] <juliank> vorlon: Yes
[15:25] <bdrung> bdmurray, are those all crashing gnome-shells or are there other affected packages as well?
[15:26] <bdmurray> geez
[15:26] <bdmurray> so many questions
[15:26] <juliank> move that discussion to -devel perhaps?
[15:26] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:26] <juliank> empty!
[15:26] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:26] <juliank> bug 1990798
[15:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798
[15:27] <juliank> It will expire in 37 days, I guess ignore it
[15:28] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:28] <juliank> empty!
[15:28] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:28] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:28] <dbungert> one more - bug 2036424
[15:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036424 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "Mantic s390x install fails: grep-status: *** stack smashing detected ***: terminated" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036424
[15:28] <juliank> oh sorry
[15:29] <dbungert> we have a sort of plan for s390x using edge channel core22 for builds, but I don't know if the underlying issue is really resolved
[15:29] <dbungert> this appears to have started around glibc sru time but may well be that we're not doing patchelf correctly or similar
[15:29] <juliank> Well it needs fixing either way, so just tag and target it
[15:29] <dbungert> ok
[15:30] <juliank> I think this will create many annoying jira issues
[15:30] <juliank> vorlon:
[15:30] <juliank> (back to proposed-migration ;))
[15:31] <vorlon> yeah, s390-tools still stuck on this MIR for rust bits
[15:31] <vorlon> zsh - liushuyu do you have a patch for i386 to disable building zsh-static?
[15:31] <vorlon> if you don't yet, I can cook one today and share it with you for review
[15:31] <juliank> (why do we even have zsh i386? :D)
[15:31] <liushuyu> vorlon: Haven't got time to write that patch
[15:31] <vorlon> juliank: you don't want to know
[15:32] <vorlon> juliank: (vlc build-depends on it :P)
[15:32] <ginggs> i'm looking at libfile-fcntllock-perl
[15:32] <vorlon> libfile-fcntllock-perl: ginggs
[15:32] <ginggs> it's the same test that fails in the test rebuild
[15:32] <juliank> 🤯
[15:33] <vorlon> libevent, this was late because I didn't notice all the no-change rebuilds needed but it is now sorted
[15:33] <vorlon> just blocked by freeze
[15:33] <juliank> (this was exploding head emoji for those with broken unicode)
[15:33] <vorlon> so that's all on proposed-migration for us today
[15:33] <juliank> #topic AOB
[15:33] <juliank> any other business?
[15:34] <adrien> I'll be away during 3 days next week and won't have time to do proposed-migration probably
[15:36] <juliank> adrien: did you get anything assigned or have leftover?
[15:36] <adrien> no, the last part of my message was the result of a race condition between messages :P
[15:36] <juliank> ah
[15:36] <juliank> sorry
[15:37] <adrien> sorry about that ;p
[15:37] <juliank> That wraps things up I think
[15:37] <juliank> #endmeeting
[15:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:37:08 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-21-15.00.moin.txt
[15:49] <schopin> dbungert: the glibc SRU is actually at fault there. mwhudson seems to be on it? At least he has some more understanding of what's going on.