=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos === ahasenack_ is now known as ahasenack [15:00] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:00] Meeting started at 15:00:52 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:00] #topic Lightning rounds[O[I [15:00] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] #topic Lightning rounds [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-21-sep-2023/ [15:01] Let's take until :10 to read and discuss [15:02] that's about 8 minutes now [15:02] o/ [15:03] o/ [15:04] I wish discourse would auto-linkfy bugs [15:05] o/ [15:10] #topic Release incoming bugs [15:10] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:10] "Writing a lot of text and talking to a couple of people" [15:10] bug 2036765 [15:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036765 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-release-upgrader failed to upgrade snap to track new release" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036765 [15:10] '-fexcess-precision=' how about if we all just agree to have just enough precision instead of excess precision [15:11] juliank: should be targeted, for sure [15:12] tagged and targeted [15:12] bug 2036441 [15:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036441 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie cannot report crash reports from live environment" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036441 [15:12] bdrung: [15:13] Yes, we should analyze this bug [15:13] The reporter is questionable [15:14] yeah they're always spamming launchpad with bugs, goes back years [15:14] lol [15:14] bug 2033440 [15:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440 [15:14] (I tagged previous one and targeted it) [15:15] We need better way to handle seed bugs so they don't all appear on our list? [15:16] I don't immediately see good solutions and would rather we not try to overengineer [15:16] we can just say "not for us" and move on [15:16] (I think last week I also said "if I were the desktop team I would wontfix it") [15:17] Can't say not for us and keep it on the desktop teams incoming list, so just leave as is? [15:17] because we share the list [15:17] yes, just leave as-is [15:17] I marked lunar as won't fix fwiw [15:17] bug 2036278 [15:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036278 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "manifest claims two packages are both installed that conflict" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036278 [15:18] Oh we absolutely need this tagged [15:18] well, we fixed the actual bug causing this to happen [15:19] this is more belt-and-braces to be able to stop buggy image builds sooner in the future [15:19] so I wouldn't say we *have* to target it for mantic [15:19] * juliank thinks that should have been done with the fix, but ok [15:19] the fix was in ubiquity, not in livecd-rootfs [15:19] I'm not targeting it to mantic but tagged it todo [15:20] ok [15:20] bug 2036440 [15:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036440 [15:20] this guy again [15:21] the gnome-shell part is not us and maybe is a duplicate [15:21] bdmurray: did you want the apport part targeted? [15:22] I got lost a bit sorry [15:22] The apport part is actually a gnome-shell part, though [15:22] AFAIUI [15:22] Let me check the retarcer and see if there are more "Invalid core dump" issues [15:22] The gnome-shell hook should collect more data [15:22] and apport should already collect that information [15:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2036440/comments/3 [15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] [15:23] bdmurray: if you're checking, I guess we should move on for now? [15:23] It could be just another case of bug #2015857 [15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015857 in apport (Ubuntu) "Repeatedly unusable truncated crash files (on log-out)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015857 [15:23] or do you want it targeted [15:23] let's move on discussion and we can discuss later so we don't go derail [15:24] bug 2036761 [15:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036761 in ppa-purge (Ubuntu) "[mantic] ppa-purge no longer purges what add-apt-repository adds" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036761 [15:24] (if there's work for us to do and that we're prioritizing, IMHO better to just target it to document that) [15:24] I guess ppa-purge doesn't need fixed for mantic given the rollback of the transition [15:24] there should be a qa-todo :D [15:24] vorlon: we rolled back sources.list->ubuntu.sources not ppa .sources [15:25] ah [15:25] There are half a dozen "not a core dump" failures with Launchpad crash reports [15:25] Yeah communication is not clear from everyone [15:25] juliank: in that case I guess we should take it [15:25] I can't check the Error Tracker retracers b/c reasons [15:25] vorlon: Yes [15:25] bdmurray, are those all crashing gnome-shells or are there other affected packages as well? [15:26] geez [15:26] so many questions [15:26] move that discussion to -devel perhaps? [15:26] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:26] empty! [15:26] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:26] bug 1990798 [15:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 [15:27] It will expire in 37 days, I guess ignore it [15:28] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:28] empty! [15:28] #topic Team proposed-migration report [15:28] #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:28] one more - bug 2036424 [15:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036424 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "Mantic s390x install fails: grep-status: *** stack smashing detected ***: terminated" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036424 [15:28] oh sorry [15:29] we have a sort of plan for s390x using edge channel core22 for builds, but I don't know if the underlying issue is really resolved [15:29] this appears to have started around glibc sru time but may well be that we're not doing patchelf correctly or similar [15:29] Well it needs fixing either way, so just tag and target it [15:29] ok [15:30] I think this will create many annoying jira issues [15:30] vorlon: [15:30] (back to proposed-migration ;)) [15:31] yeah, s390-tools still stuck on this MIR for rust bits [15:31] zsh - liushuyu do you have a patch for i386 to disable building zsh-static? [15:31] if you don't yet, I can cook one today and share it with you for review [15:31] (why do we even have zsh i386? :D) [15:31] vorlon: Haven't got time to write that patch [15:31] juliank: you don't want to know [15:32] juliank: (vlc build-depends on it :P) [15:32] i'm looking at libfile-fcntllock-perl [15:32] libfile-fcntllock-perl: ginggs [15:32] it's the same test that fails in the test rebuild [15:32] 🤯 [15:33] libevent, this was late because I didn't notice all the no-change rebuilds needed but it is now sorted [15:33] just blocked by freeze [15:33] (this was exploding head emoji for those with broken unicode) [15:33] so that's all on proposed-migration for us today [15:33] #topic AOB [15:33] any other business? [15:34] I'll be away during 3 days next week and won't have time to do proposed-migration probably [15:36] adrien: did you get anything assigned or have leftover? [15:36] no, the last part of my message was the result of a race condition between messages :P [15:36] ah [15:36] sorry [15:37] sorry about that ;p [15:37] That wraps things up I think [15:37] #endmeeting [15:37] Meeting ended at 15:37:08 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-21-15.00.moin.txt [15:49] dbungert: the glibc SRU is actually at fault there. mwhudson seems to be on it? At least he has some more understanding of what's going on. === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk