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daftykinshoo-hoo i'm a kid at Christmas, arrived in Exeter - at my pal's house on fancy fibre, and many toys to unpack and dabble with10:45
penguin42ah, Essex has dried out then?10:57
daftykinsthe other E - Exeter - but nope soaking right now!10:57
penguin42ah11:00
daftykinsglad i made it in when i did11:01
zxmpifibre will do that to you :-P12:06
daftykinswow ETB Tech include a tube of cookies, very nice touch!12:10
daftykinsmunch + config could be a good combo12:10
zxmpiwhat type of cookies?12:32
daftykinscan't look right now, enjoying the kit!12:33
penguin42daftykins: what toys have you got then?13:05
daftykinsa Dell R6515, with an AMD EPYC gen3 7313 3GHz 16 core CPU, 512 GB RAM, a pair of 1.2 TB SAS 12Gb HDDs and 4 x 960 GB SAS SSDs13:12
daftykinsnew 24 port switch13:12
daftykinsand for the old sandybridge era Dell R820 server that's our current workhorse, 256 GB RAM... 2 ivybridge CPUs that bump the clock speeds a bit and an air baffle so i can remove the daughterboard which houses CPUs 3 and 413:13
daftykins4 socket machine which i'm reducing to a 2 socket since we need single-thread performance not multi13:13
daftykinslots to do!13:13
penguin42I suspect you'll find that EPYC will kick your ivybridges into this century!13:24
daftykinsooh yes13:25
daftykinsthe staff's compute will gain a VM atop this hardware but also have a fallback on the old, so i chose to maximise efficiency13:25
zxmpi512gb of ram... and me here looking at a z80 system with maybe 128-256k :-)14:16
daftykins:)14:16
zxmpiwhen did it all go wrong :-)14:20
daftykinsi know, it's those pesky devs!14:21
daftykinsheh, but nah with this one it's that data analysis biz of my pal's where the staff's single scripts can hit 50 GB mem usage mid-run14:21
daftykinsi only specified half the DIMM slot count as well, so we could upgrade to 1TB RAM if the need ever arose14:22
zxmpiwas listening to floppy days podcast yesterday with interview with guy who wrote sinclair basic. at uni when he started the old mainframe took 20 mins to run a program. they replaced it with better system.14:22
zxmpiwithin 3 months the twice as fast system was taking 20 minutes to run programs as devs got lazy14:22
daftykinshaha14:23
zxmpihe said things have not gotten better since.14:23
zxmpithis is the guy who crammed basic into 4k rom :-)14:23
daftykinsamazing14:23
zxmpiorignal version was 5k but had to be cut to fit 4k14:24
zxmpididn't even have the hardware to test it on14:24
daftykinsmy pal and his colleague who have experience with RStudio had to have chats with their employees to educate them on the need for efficient script writing14:24
daftykinsany ideas what format they were developing on? paper, older system, etc?14:24
zxmpioooooh, he mentioned so many different systems he was developing on i can't remember.14:25
zxmpinot paper14:25
zxmpibut as someone mentioned later, you could write it down on 1 sheet of paper and debug it there at 4k :-)14:26
daftykinsheh14:31
zxmpihttps://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-85-interview-with-john-grant-developer-of-zx80-os-basic14:32
zxmpiat 18m. 8" floppy based zilog test box.14:35

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