[10:45] <daftykins> hoo-hoo i'm a kid at Christmas, arrived in Exeter - at my pal's house on fancy fibre, and many toys to unpack and dabble with
[10:57] <penguin42> ah, Essex has dried out then?
[10:57] <daftykins> the other E - Exeter - but nope soaking right now!
[11:00] <penguin42> ah
[11:01] <daftykins> glad i made it in when i did
[12:06] <zxmpi> fibre will do that to you :-P
[12:10] <daftykins> wow ETB Tech include a tube of cookies, very nice touch!
[12:10] <daftykins> munch + config could be a good combo
[12:32] <zxmpi> what type of cookies?
[12:33] <daftykins> can't look right now, enjoying the kit!
[13:05] <penguin42> daftykins: what toys have you got then?
[13:12] <daftykins> a Dell R6515, with an AMD EPYC gen3 7313 3GHz 16 core CPU, 512 GB RAM, a pair of 1.2 TB SAS 12Gb HDDs and 4 x 960 GB SAS SSDs
[13:12] <daftykins> new 24 port switch
[13:13] <daftykins> and for the old sandybridge era Dell R820 server that's our current workhorse, 256 GB RAM... 2 ivybridge CPUs that bump the clock speeds a bit and an air baffle so i can remove the daughterboard which houses CPUs 3 and 4
[13:13] <daftykins> 4 socket machine which i'm reducing to a 2 socket since we need single-thread performance not multi
[13:13] <daftykins> lots to do!
[13:24] <penguin42> I suspect you'll find that EPYC will kick your ivybridges into this century!
[13:25] <daftykins> ooh yes
[13:25] <daftykins> the staff's compute will gain a VM atop this hardware but also have a fallback on the old, so i chose to maximise efficiency
[14:16] <zxmpi> 512gb of ram... and me here looking at a z80 system with maybe 128-256k :-)
[14:16] <daftykins> :)
[14:20] <zxmpi> when did it all go wrong :-)
[14:21] <daftykins> i know, it's those pesky devs!
[14:21] <daftykins> heh, but nah with this one it's that data analysis biz of my pal's where the staff's single scripts can hit 50 GB mem usage mid-run
[14:22] <daftykins> i only specified half the DIMM slot count as well, so we could upgrade to 1TB RAM if the need ever arose
[14:22] <zxmpi> was listening to floppy days podcast yesterday with interview with guy who wrote sinclair basic. at uni when he started the old mainframe took 20 mins to run a program. they replaced it with better system.
[14:22] <zxmpi> within 3 months the twice as fast system was taking 20 minutes to run programs as devs got lazy
[14:23] <daftykins> haha
[14:23] <zxmpi> he said things have not gotten better since.
[14:23] <zxmpi> this is the guy who crammed basic into 4k rom :-)
[14:23] <daftykins> amazing
[14:24] <zxmpi> orignal version was 5k but had to be cut to fit 4k
[14:24] <zxmpi> didn't even have the hardware to test it on
[14:24] <daftykins> my pal and his colleague who have experience with RStudio had to have chats with their employees to educate them on the need for efficient script writing
[14:24] <daftykins> any ideas what format they were developing on? paper, older system, etc?
[14:25] <zxmpi> oooooh, he mentioned so many different systems he was developing on i can't remember.
[14:25] <zxmpi> not paper
[14:26] <zxmpi> but as someone mentioned later, you could write it down on 1 sheet of paper and debug it there at 4k :-)
[14:31] <daftykins> heh
[14:32] <zxmpi> https://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-85-interview-with-john-grant-developer-of-zx80-os-basic
[14:35] <zxmpi> at 18m. 8" floppy based zilog test box.