[10:45] hoo-hoo i'm a kid at Christmas, arrived in Exeter - at my pal's house on fancy fibre, and many toys to unpack and dabble with [10:57] ah, Essex has dried out then? [10:57] the other E - Exeter - but nope soaking right now! [11:00] ah [11:01] glad i made it in when i did [12:06] fibre will do that to you :-P [12:10] wow ETB Tech include a tube of cookies, very nice touch! [12:10] munch + config could be a good combo [12:32] what type of cookies? [12:33] can't look right now, enjoying the kit! [13:05] daftykins: what toys have you got then? [13:12] a Dell R6515, with an AMD EPYC gen3 7313 3GHz 16 core CPU, 512 GB RAM, a pair of 1.2 TB SAS 12Gb HDDs and 4 x 960 GB SAS SSDs [13:12] new 24 port switch [13:13] and for the old sandybridge era Dell R820 server that's our current workhorse, 256 GB RAM... 2 ivybridge CPUs that bump the clock speeds a bit and an air baffle so i can remove the daughterboard which houses CPUs 3 and 4 [13:13] 4 socket machine which i'm reducing to a 2 socket since we need single-thread performance not multi [13:13] lots to do! [13:24] I suspect you'll find that EPYC will kick your ivybridges into this century! [13:25] ooh yes [13:25] the staff's compute will gain a VM atop this hardware but also have a fallback on the old, so i chose to maximise efficiency [14:16] 512gb of ram... and me here looking at a z80 system with maybe 128-256k :-) [14:16] :) [14:20] when did it all go wrong :-) [14:21] i know, it's those pesky devs! [14:21] heh, but nah with this one it's that data analysis biz of my pal's where the staff's single scripts can hit 50 GB mem usage mid-run [14:22] i only specified half the DIMM slot count as well, so we could upgrade to 1TB RAM if the need ever arose [14:22] was listening to floppy days podcast yesterday with interview with guy who wrote sinclair basic. at uni when he started the old mainframe took 20 mins to run a program. they replaced it with better system. [14:22] within 3 months the twice as fast system was taking 20 minutes to run programs as devs got lazy [14:23] haha [14:23] he said things have not gotten better since. [14:23] this is the guy who crammed basic into 4k rom :-) [14:23] amazing [14:24] orignal version was 5k but had to be cut to fit 4k [14:24] didn't even have the hardware to test it on [14:24] my pal and his colleague who have experience with RStudio had to have chats with their employees to educate them on the need for efficient script writing [14:24] any ideas what format they were developing on? paper, older system, etc? [14:25] oooooh, he mentioned so many different systems he was developing on i can't remember. [14:25] not paper [14:26] but as someone mentioned later, you could write it down on 1 sheet of paper and debug it there at 4k :-) [14:31] heh [14:32] https://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-85-interview-with-john-grant-developer-of-zx80-os-basic [14:35] at 18m. 8" floppy based zilog test box.