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jsmoothtoddc: My laptop hard drive is too small, that's why I installed onto USB flash. I got recommendation form a computer engineer (professional) to do so. HE said it might be a bit slow, but would be my best answer. Slowness isn't the issue though.00:24
leftyfbjsmooth: how small is the hard drive?00:45
Pinguin_44anyone alive in here?01:01
Pinguin_44I'm using kubuntu 22.04. I have a tether setup to my phone via usb running an app called tetrd. I'm sharing the internet via ethernet into the router's internet port. If I enable the built in firewall in Kubuntu settings with the rule allow all incoming and allow all outgoing I lose internet on the router.01:04
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c0ld5n4pcan I use FSCK to check / repair a windows based drive?? or does it not do the same as chkdsk would do?01:47
leftyfbc0ld5n4p: no. You can use ntfsfix but you are better off using Windows to run chkdsk01:48
c0ld5n4pthx01:50
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josh_Greetings! I have upgraded to Ubuntu 23.03 and I am experiencing some freezing issues, has anyone  faced such issues and if so is there a workaround?04:59
kotgcHello, can Ubuntu.iso be downloaded whilst including virt-manager? The machine has no Internet until a KVM router is installed.05:35
kotgcI can download virt-manager.tar.gz onto a USB, however the Ubuntu.iso needs Internet to install some packages, to run virt-manager.05:38
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mark__sup guys06:37
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haryhello ...07:34
haryjakarta from here07:34
enychary: what do you mean?07:35
enycubuntu qusetion?07:35
haryyes07:35
kotgcHow to install virt-install on ubuntu22 desktop with no Internet?07:35
hary1st time lubuntu07:36
harytrying how fast this os07:36
enyckotgc: I suspect thats' part of "virt-manager" package07:37
kotgcenyc, yes, I'm trying to install virt-manager without Internet...I have the tar.gz file on USB07:37
enyckotgc: not exactly sure but you may be able to save all the .deb files  and faff  but imho thats a bit silly, better to set up temporary internet connection, get everyithing installed, ...07:37
enyckotgc: you shouldn't need tar files,  as virt-manager is a core deb package07:37
enyckotgc: compliing from tar.gz source is needless faff07:38
kotgcenyc, well, that's it...once virt manager is installed, I can install internet on a KVM.07:38
enyckotgc: ONE approach to this is as follows:-07:38
enyckotgc: (1) get another separate machine with internet,  clean ubuntu install [NOT with packages etc added]    (2) on that machine,  sudo apt-get install virt-manager07:39
kotgcI have the unzipped tar.gz file, which is: virt-manager-4.1.007:39
enyckotgc: yes you DONT WANT tar.gz file07:39
enyckotgc: deb packages ALREADY inscluded in ubuntu07:39
kotgcenyc, really, can ubuntu show me the GUI icon VMM, so I can then install the KVM?07:40
enyckotgc: (3) then you have in  /var/cache/apt/archives/   all the .deb files needed,  copy that whole set of .deb's  to the machine you need it on07:40
enyckotgc: you can then start installing the suitable .deb's  including all the dependencies and virt-manager deb itself07:41
enyckotgc: notice ubuntu ALREADY has virt-manager  as deb packages  included,  you DO NOT need to  tar.gz  install at all07:41
kotgcenyc, ok, I see these deb files https://dpaste.org/quMEU07:42
enyckotgc: you MISSED step (1)07:42
kotgcenyc, Step 1 is tricky, I have only this machine on Internet right now, so I'm trying to find the deb file here.07:43
enyckotgc: its tricky whatever you do07:43
enyckotgc: you could use a chroot ararngement on internet connected machine07:44
enyckotgc: debootstrap  chroot ubuntu jammy22.04LTS07:44
enyckotgc: if you have a CLEAN chroot or CLEAN ubuntu with internet,  NOT just another machine ...  then when you  apt-get -yd install virt-manager ...    you'll get all the necessary deb packages in  /var/cache/apt/archives07:45
enyckotgc: you can then  transfer all those .deb's  to the offline machine  and use them to install all those packages to make virt-manager work07:45
kotgcenyc, can I copy these deb files over to a new machine now?07:48
enyckotgc: its' also possible to manually find them all in    https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/virt-manager   and get the "all" or "amd64"  version  but then you need every single dependent package manually as well07:48
kotgcok07:48
enyckotgc: what do you mean,  you didn't DETAIL  the steps you already took to get a clean machine  FIRST07:48
kotgcno clean machine.07:48
enyckotgc: so set one up, or set up a clean chroot  as I said07:49
kotgcbit of a trick for KVM routers. Need Internet for the deb packages. I'll look up what a clean chroot is.07:50
enyckotgc: chroot environment is a way to get a  basic ubuntu or debian or other distro  inside another system  without full virtualization07:50
enyckotgc: what I mean by 'clean' is one you have NOT added packages to yet07:50
kotgcok07:51
enyckotgc: so that when you    sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager    it then ... "gets" all the package files into /var/cache/apt/archives/07:51
enyckotgc: no good doing that on system with virt-manager or at least many of the dependencies  already installed,  as the .deb's you need won't be saved07:51
kotgcenyc, I'm missing why I can't use this computer and need to do a clean machine and then download virt-manager?07:51
kotgcThis machine was clean until I downloaded the VMM.07:52
enyckotgc: ''downloaded'' too-vague07:52
enyckotgc: did you  "suto apt install virt-manager"  or what EXACTLY ?07:52
kotgcenyc, installed Virtual Machine Manager.07:52
enyckotgc: what ubuntu package is that installed with ?07:53
enyckotgc: aah package "virt-manager"  it would seem hrrm07:53
enyckotgc: if this other machine  had  "sudo apt install virt-manager"  recently  then  you should already have  virt-manager deb  in /var/cache/apt/archives07:54
kotgcenyc, yes, I think I ran command: sudo apt install virt-manager, as per https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/virtualization-virt-tools07:54
enycwhich wasn't on the list you showed be earlier i think07:55
kotgcenyc, this one, strange? https://dpaste.org/quMEU07:55
enyckotgc: exactly  maybe it was a while ago07:56
kotgcenyc, Ubuntu now has a big app icon saying Virtual Machine Manager.07:56
enyckotgc: this is what i'm sayincg  you could just get another machine or set up a chroot or whatever07:56
enyckotgc: then  sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager   on that clean machine  and  voila  all needed deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives07:57
kotgcok07:57
enyckotgc: you CAN  sudo apt-get -yd install --reinstall virt-manager     but you'll only get virt-manager  deb   ... similarly you could download that deb manually starting from  https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/virt-manager   BUT  when you try to  sudo dpkg -i   the virt-manager  deb package  on that offline machine you'll then find you need loads of other dependent packages07:58
kotgcyes07:59
enyckotgc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot  <- I imagine you can set up a  Jammy  chroot  and then   sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager   to get  [/path/to/chroot...]/var/cache/apt/archives/   .deb 's you need08:01
kotgcenyc, thx, I'll read that08:01
enyckotgc: you can use either gui tools or  sudo dpkg -i    to install from .deb  files ...08:02
kotgcok08:02
enyckotgc: KEEP NOTE DONT LOSE:  it MAY be helpful to  go into the chroot,  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade  THEN  sudo apt-get clean    FIRST  [cleans out  /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb]   THEN   sudo apt-get -yd install --reinstall virt-manager     SO that you only get the 'addon packages' needed  to a basic clean install08:03
enycuerr08:04
enyckotgc: KEEP NOTE DONT LOSE:  it MAY be helpful to  go into the chroot,  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade  THEN  sudo apt-get clean    FIRST  [cleans out  /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb]   THEN   sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager     SO that you only get the 'addon packages' needed  to a basic clean install08:04
* enyc meows =)08:04
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Mike112hey guys, is it possible to force a Steam game to run on the integrated GPU, please? I've done a fresh installation of ubuntu 23.04 on my gaming laptop with and AMD Ryzen 7 3750H CPU with Radeon Vega 10 integrated GPU + nVidia GTX 1660Ti discrete GPU. So far so good. I've installed Brave, Steam, nvidia v535 drivers. Games work fine. I have the09:17
Mike112feeling the run on the discrete gpu by default, so I'd like to test how they run on the integrated gpu09:17
Mike112why do I have the feeling the games run on the dGPU by default is that the FPS is too good in my opinion. I have 60 FPS on a new 3D strategy game and that would seem to be too good to be true for an iGPU09:21
lotuspsychjeMike112: could it be, hybrid graphics your app needs to be launched with right mouse click, then choose the graphics of choice?09:35
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Mike112I only see Run using Discrete GPU, unfortunately09:36
lotuspsychjeMike112: what about nvidia-prime package, can you choose powersaving vs performance mode there?09:45
Mike112I could only select "Performance Mode" and "On-Demand Mode", but it behaves exactly the same09:49
Mike112I just installed GPU Profile Selector: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/5009/gpu-profile-selector/09:49
Mike112this allows me to select Integrated GPU, so this worked. Now the FPS is much lower, so it seems it really switched to the iGPU09:50
lotuspsychjeah nice looks cool Mike11209:50
Mike112thanks anyway! :)09:50
lotuspsychjebut weird gnome cant handle that by default09:50
lotuspsychjethere's also a switcheroo package that can do things on hybrid graphics Mike11209:51
Mike112yeah, one would expect it would have both, "Run on Discrete GPU" and "Run on Integrated GPU" when right-clicking on app iconž09:51
lotuspsychjemaybe check your dmesg logs if thats your case09:51
Mike112ok, thank you. I'll check switcheroo09:51
jsmoothI keep getting "timed out" trying to run composer install for a Laravel project. A search has shown it may be an ipv6 issue, but I don't want to type in a command I don't understand for making ipv4 have priority. I'm using Ubuntu 22 with WSL 210:35
Instantcarmahallo11:08
Instantcarmahi11:08
lotuspsychjewelcome Instantcarma11:10
lotuspsychjehow can we help you today?11:10
casualusehello11:13
casualuseanyone here11:14
casualuseI was just banned from the ubuntu forum11:14
casualusefor trying to connect with fellow opensource developers11:14
casualuseI posted my GPL'd project11:14
casualusecoffeedipshit banned me11:14
casualuseI want you to take my ip address down11:14
casualusebecause I'm tired of every fucking place banning anyone who isn't a mewling slave11:15
lotuspsychjeplease keep the language family friendly casualuse11:15
mozambiquegodd dam it11:15
casualuseI will kill you fucks when WW3 gets going, and things get chaotic11:15
casualusedo you fking understand?11:15
jeremy31casualuse: this is not the place to complain11:15
casualuseI am just trying to get some fellow C programmers11:15
alphasierra> I will kill you fucks when WW3 gets going, and things get chaotic, and you wonder hwy you were banned11:15
alphasierralmao11:15
casualuseI posted in "general questions"11:15
casualusealphasierra: I'm 3711:16
KingSharkcan you link that post i am curious11:16
jeremy31ubuntuforums.org is not the place to advertise projects11:16
casualuserussia started ww311:16
mozambiqueask for the term of search11:16
alphasierracasualuse, do not understand how that is relevean11:16
lotuspsychje!ops11:16
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant11:16
mozambiqueit's better than the link11:16
casualusejeremy31: "nowhere" is the place to "advertise" projects11:16
casualuseim NOT going to obey "u cant get contributors anywhere hahahha it's the rulez"11:16
casualusesee lotuspsychje calling for mods allready11:17
casualuseprobably a woman11:17
alphasierraobvious troll11:17
casualusealphasierra: nope dipshit11:17
jeremy31nipseyhussle211:17
casualuseolder than you11:17
casualuseand been opensource programming for over 20 years11:17
casualusejeremy31: im going to post urls as asked11:17
mozambiquemy mind was deleted and iam 4411:17
casualuseofcourse I'm sure that's against the rulez too11:18
casualusehttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249102911:18
casualusehttps://web.archive.org/save/https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249102911:18
casualusehttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491030&p=14158714#post1415871411:18
casualusehttps://web.archive.org/save/https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491030&p=14158714#post1415871411:18
casualuse 11:18
alphasierrai am a 120, and have been programmin since before opensource was a thing11:18
alphasierra:)11:18
mozambique12011:18
mozambiquethats a beautifull age11:18
alphasierrasending me dm's now11:19
alphasierralol11:19
jeremy31He should have posted in #ubuntu-offtopic11:21
KingSharkcheck his forum threads though its fun11:21
KingSharkhe posted in general help and the post is named 'Hi (wanted to say hi) '11:21
jeremy31The ubuntuforums posts were hidden from public view11:21
KingSharkthe web.archive.org links still work11:22
KingSharkcasualuse, (not sure if you are muted): general help and trying to find fellow developers is not a good match11:22
KingSharkcasualuse, 'general help'is meant as 'general help using ubuntu'11:23
casualuseas you can see11:31
casualuseyou asked for the URLS11:31
casualuseI gave them11:31
casualusebanned by a bot11:31
jeremy31Banned by the bot for the same reason you got banned from ubuntuforums11:31
casualuseKingShark: did you get the urls of the posts? I also posted the webarchive.11:32
casualusealphasierra: this look like a "troll" to you (you'll say yes to be snarky and "ironic"): chaosesqueteam.itch.io/chaosesque-anthology    libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology11:33
casualusejeremy31: go to hell asshole11:33
KingSharkcasualuse, yeah BUT you posted on 'general help' which is meant as in 'general help using ubuntu'11:33
casualusewhatever11:33
KingSharknot as in 'general help for anything'11:33
casualuseyou have 7000 forums11:33
casualuseand 9000 that get 0 views11:33
casualusegeneral is the only one that ever gets any posts in any forum anyway11:34
KingSharkcasualuse, try finding fellow developers in more developer-centric environments than the ubuntu general help section :)11:34
casualuseI used to run a phpbb2 : so I know11:34
casualuseKingShark: there are none anymore11:34
jeremy31The view counter on ubuntuforums has been broken since 201611:34
casualuselol11:34
KingSharkcasualuse, i found a friend to develop with by developing for an existing open source game and we are now working on our own projects xD11:34
casualusegit browsing on sourceforge has been broken since 2012?11:34
casualuseI've complained but they never fixed it11:34
casualuseatleast I can torify git push to their tho11:35
casualuseI have to publish my git repos as 25gb split tarballs tho every so often11:35
KingSharkcasualuse, maybe use an existing game development engine and then get together with other devs that use it11:35
casualuseKingShark: allready did that: this is a 10 yr old project11:35
casualusehas 200 weapons, 60 vehicles, 100+maps etc11:36
casualuseI put a link above in my post to alphanevada11:36
alphasierracasualuse, while the project might be impressive, your behaviour is not11:36
casualuseKingShark: recently I've been adding some mode/map file formats11:36
casualusealphasierra: woman11:36
casualusealphasierra: you want to fight me we can fight11:36
casualusewe can11:37
casualuseso time and place11:37
KingSharkcasualuse, you are comedy gold :))11:37
casualuseequal rights, equal lefts11:37
alphasierrain a 100 years, on the moon11:37
alphasierrai'll see you there :)11:37
casualusealphasierra: only india will be there then11:37
casualuserussia couldn't do it anymore11:37
casualuseand we don't even try11:37
casualuseKingShark: I was adding some new file formats this summer11:38
lotuspsychje!ot11:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:38
casualuseMineTest exports and BZFlag exports11:38
casualuselotuspsychje: oh so I can't even talk to someone now?11:38
lotuspsychjeplease stop that casualuse , only ubuntu support issues here11:38
casualuselotuspsychje: _fuck_ you11:38
casualuselotuspsychje: I will not dip fucking shit11:38
lotuspsychjenot here no11:38
casualuselotuspsychje: fuck you faggot11:38
casualusebeen in opensource longer than you11:38
casualuseill do as I please11:39
casualusewith as many IPs as I please11:39
casualuseunderstand zoomer fuck11:39
casualuseKingShark: the opinion of BZFlag and MineTest as to what exactly an obj file is, is different than the engines11:39
casualuseKingShark: so for each I had to do some programming11:39
casualuseKingShark: BZFlag's "obj file" wouldn't even show up at all11:40
casualuseturns out some of their values were inverted11:40
casualuseand both had a different idea of what "up" was11:40
KingSharkcasualuse, i am to lazy to write the foundations myself, i use the godot engine and am happy with it11:40
casualuseand, ofcourse, scaling11:40
KingSharkthere are so many free engines out there..11:40
casualuseKingShark: I added wolfenstine:enemyterritory bsp loading to this engine last year :)11:41
casualusegot us 600 extra maps to play11:41
casualusethe minetest stuff actually got us anything you can export as obj from blender tho11:41
casualuseso all of sketchfab :P11:41
casualusename it map.obj_from_mc and you can add directives like map.scale128.obj_from_mc and others11:42
casualuseKingShark: our engine is Quake1: but lots have been added over the years11:42
casualuseQuake3 map format is the default I use when mapping11:42
casualuselord havoc and others added a ton a decade ago11:42
casualuseI've been programming things in as needed11:43
casualuseKingShark: I wanted the unreal 97/ UT99 formats now tho11:43
casualusefigured "hey don't opensource projects usually have lots of people?"11:43
casualuse"I just have me, and that's been enough"11:43
casualuse"but blender has alot of formats because it has people"11:43
KingSharkcasualuse, they do but they are usually occupied working on existing stuff already x)11:43
casualuseyea ... but11:44
casualusein the sourcecode I linked11:44
KingSharkcasualuse, not having enough devs is a problem many projects suffer from. and its a circle: no devs > no features. no features > no users. no users > not attractive to other devs.11:44
casualuseI allready did the setup so .t3d will load as a file (you can do map bla.t3d)11:44
casualuseand it will load the vertexs11:44
casualuseWell I only have me as a dev11:44
KingSharkyou would need to attract someone who cares deeply about your project to reach some critical mass xD11:44
casualuseand I've done:11:44
casualusemaps11:44
casualusetextures11:44
casualuseengine code (C)11:44
casualusegamecode (QC)11:44
casualusemusic11:45
casualusesfx11:45
casualuseetc11:45
KingSharkmaybe post on forums for your development language11:45
casualusehhhahahhahahahahahah11:45
casualuselol11:45
casualuseyou're a funny guy too11:45
casualuseI try that11:45
casualuse1) No registrations allowed on 1/2 of them11:45
casualuse2) banned in 2 seconds11:45
casualuseeverything's "against the rulez" from stick up they asses11:46
casualusebecause the stick-up-they-asses don't program or do anything11:46
KingSharkconsidering you posted in general help on ubuntu to try to find devs, they might be on to something x)11:46
casualuseso they become "important" by "managing"11:46
lotuspsychje!ops | casualuse language & offtopic11:46
ubottucasualuse language & offtopic: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant11:46
casualuseKingShark: the msg I got was "u r banned for 42 points because spam"11:46
casualuseKingShark: see lotuspsychje is doing it too11:46
casualusehe can't code11:46
casualuseso he's "enforcing"11:47
KingSharkguess that is because you made like 5+ comments on your own post instead of putting it in one post11:47
casualusewell I wanted to post screenshots11:47
KingSharklink the imgur in the initial post11:47
casualuseand make it not like a wall of text11:47
casualuseimgur is after my time11:47
casualuseand the first post I wanted to have no links11:47
casualuseas when people see a link they ignore the post11:47
KingSharkif you keep commenting on your own thread, its pretending activity that does not exist. which is against usual forum ettiquette11:47
casualuseI don't care about transsexual things like ettiquette11:48
casualuseI was running shell servers before such things existed.11:48
casualusebefore #debain-woman too11:48
KingSharknice for you but if you dont want to play by others rules why are you surprised they ban you x)11:48
casualuseKingShark: I'll eventually kill them11:49
casualusewhen WW3 gets more chaotic11:49
KingSharkdid you forget to take your pills x)11:49
casualuse"could of prevented this with t3d"11:49
casualuseKingShark: only pills I take are for the heart11:49
casualuseand it's still burning with a desire to add more features11:49
KingSharkwell. you might want to see a psychologist for your anger issues and get some more pills xD11:49
casualus8 pressed the "stop" ctrl thing11:51
casualus8oops11:51
casualus8KingShark: https://chaosesqueteam.itch.io/chaosesque-anthology11:51
casualus8some screenshots11:51
casualus8as you can see: my project can procedurally generate cities with interiors to all11:52
casualus8(also level of detail)11:52
casualus8but you can use that to generate whatever you want, map wise11:52
casualus8supports using other models as heightmaps too11:52
casualus8KingShark: and here's a video of the wolfenstine enemy territory maps working:11:53
casualus8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6FytoJxek11:53
casualus8anyone here anymore?11:53
casualus8or did "stop execution of program" stop everybody?11:54
casualus8https://sourceforge.net/p/chaosesqueanthology/discussion/general/thread/bed4ec239c/11:58
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akikfedora is planning on disabling xorg for plasma and gnome. does ubuntu have these plans?12:34
spratlei think it is being discussed only at the moment12:36
BluesKajHi all12:41
foomoAfter a reboot my wired connection stopped working - only wifi works. Could someone please help me diagnose/fix it?12:48
ioriafoomo, is the interface up and configured ? run 'ip a'12:52
foomoioria: I presume I'm looking for `eth0`, which is not there12:53
ioriafoomo, run 'lspci -nnk'12:54
foomoioria: there I see `Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:525a] (rev 01)`12:56
ioriafoomo, run 'dmesg | grep rtsx_pci'12:57
foomoioria: the only line found is `[   14.182677] rtsx_pci 0000:3b:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)`12:58
ioriafoomo, maybe better if you paste the full output of 'lspci -nnk'12:59
ioriafoomo, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999912:59
foomoioria: https://termbin.com/yhirl13:00
ioriafoomo, is the ethernet integrated or on a different slot ?13:03
foomoioria: integrated13:03
ioriafoomo, and what's your kernel ? uname -r13:05
foomoioria: 5.15.0-84-generic13:05
ioriafoomo, i don't see an Ethernet controller there13:07
foomoioria: seem like hardware failure?13:09
OnkelTemHi folks13:09
OnkelTemSince when `pastebinit` posts in a restricted area? People need an account to view the posting?13:09
OnkelTemI either mess it up with another similar utility or they made it restricted recently13:10
ioriafoomo, if integrated , would be a rare case, but sure might be; try to boot another kernel and check again lspci13:10
foomoioria: how do I boot another kernel, and what am I looking for in the lspci output?13:11
foomoI had this happen once before and it seemingly resolved itself after a reboot, but no such luck this time.13:11
ioriafoomo, from grub, and you check for an 'Ethernet Controller'; unless is that Communication controller [0780]:13:12
tomreynOnkelTem: the ubuntu pastebin, the pastebin pastebinit on ubuntu default to using (but it supports several others), has unfortunately been required, for legal reasons, to introduce these restructions.13:12
tomreyn(this is unrelated to the pastebinit utility)13:12
OnkelTemso anyone can post w/o an account, but only authed users can view then? :)13:13
tomreynOnkelTem: i think so, yes13:14
OnkelTemcool! (no)13:14
foomoioria: okay, going to try now. ty13:14
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ioriaok13:14
OnkelTemthanks for the answer tomreyn13:14
tomreynOnkelTem: there are many other pastebins and pastebin-like services which can be more convenient to use since they do not have these restrictions, yet.13:15
OnkelTemI would like to use them from command line, are you folks aware of an alternative13:15
tomreynecho hello |& nc termbin.com 999913:16
OnkelTem:D13:16
OnkelTemthanks tomreyn !13:16
tomreynyou're welcome - read their website, this service aslso applies some limitations (as do others), which may come unexpectedly.13:18
OnkelTemok!13:19
tomreynmore importantly, a 1000 lines limit. and the connection closes after 3(?) seconds, so if anything before the pipe into nc has not finished within these 3 seconds, nothing will get posted.13:20
OnkelTemI like it, so minimal, so easy. Already created an alias (`tb` obviously)13:22
OnkelTemah, hence the '&' tomreyn?13:23
OnkelTemI'm familiar with command line, just don't remember that I was using `|&`13:23
tomreynthe & character ensures, in bash only, that standard error output also goes through the pipe13:23
tomreynso not just standard output13:24
OnkelTemhm13:24
OnkelTemI use usually 2 > &113:24
OnkelTemSo & is like a shortcut?13:24
tomreynyou can do this, it's just more to type13:24
tomreynyes13:24
OnkelTemHaha. Darn, I wish I knew it before13:24
tomreynman bash discusses this and A LOT more things. and the wooledge.org wiki also does so, in a much more readable way.13:25
tomreynhttps://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashSheet#Piping13:26
nualai have one specific game (kinda my favorite sadly) not respecting remapping changes im doing in jstest(gtk). i can confirm like in firefox the changes are applied and effect immediatly the javascript test thing i use for second point of reference :s any chance to 'force' a mapping to a unity app (native linux build of hollow knight)13:27
akiktomreyn: what legal reasons?13:40
tomreynakik: i guess it was more a matter of "too much effort taken due to too many gdpr requests". but that's just heresay, i don't know the details.13:41
Your_Dognuala: If you have steam, then just use steam controller to override keybinds, on the otherhand, you could use something like antimicrox13:44
nualaYour_Dog: actually i was not expect steam to pickup non-steam games and doing its magic on the controller. but it does. (so modding e.g. via Lumafly is in the cards!) good call! But I keep an eye on antimicrox. Thank you!13:53
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cfochHello14:10
cfochDoes Ubuntu already support "Device Tree"?14:10
leftyfbcfoch: you mean this? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dtc.1.html14:14
leftyfb!info device-tree-compiler14:14
ubottudevice-tree-compiler (1.6.1-4, lunar): Device Tree Compiler for Flat Device Trees. In component main, is extra. Built by device-tree-compiler. Size 222 kB / 411 kB14:14
cfochNot at all. I meant:14:14
cfoch$ cat /boot/config-6.2.0-33-generic | grep CONFIG_OF14:14
cfoch# CONFIG_OF is not set14:14
leftyfbso set it?14:15
cfochBut for that I have to re-compile the kernel.14:15
leftyfbyes14:15
cfochThat's why I was asking if Ubuntu already supports device tree. I am on Ubuntu Focal, old distro.14:16
leftyfbcfoch: not sure if this helps you https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-42-of/214:16
cfochI am not sure either :)14:18
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provHi guys I just install U Server and I have and can install software using Ubuntu-software but I would like to install Solaar for my Logitech Mouse however when I try to install it the install button changes to Cancel and nothing happens. If I come out and search for Solaar again then it appears in the software list but now says Pending at the end of the row  I can install other software fine.  Any ideas please anyone?  thanks16:45
jeremy31Reboot?16:48
provYeah I gave that ago and its the same16:51
provIs there a setting that stops it installing if the app is classed as "Potentially Unsafe"16:51
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Guest1l|11hey losers guess what, fuuuuuulalalalalalaaaauuucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkk you17:56
leftyfbGuest1l|11: trolling is offtopic here. This is support channel17:56
kostkontsk tsk17:57
Guest1l|11I need liiiiiiiii support so I can a dumb windows 11 coms so I can get ubuntu on it with money I don't got17:57
kostkonhere they are again17:57
Guest1l|11what's the best way to pay for ubuntu?17:58
leftyfbGuest1l|11: go away17:58
Guest1l|11I'm asking a legit idea und this shit ain't clean17:59
leftyfbGuest1l|11: /join #politics, they love trolls17:59
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kostkonGuest1l|11, if you've got legitimate support questions to ask go ahead and ask them. Otherwise please remain quiet, you can stay on this channel, just please don't troll18:01
kostkonoh they changed their nick in the meantime18:02
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BalloHello. I'm used to a stripped down UNIX machine and something somewhere in modern Linus is resetting my default gateway22:23
BalloIf there a way to disable all the services so I can just get my old non-NERFed UNIX back?22:24
topcat001Ubuntu is not exactly stripped down, but the server version is pretty minimal.22:30
leftyfbBallo: what release of ubuntu are you running?22:32
Ballo22.04 I think22:34
BalloI think I chose the wrong distro tbh22:35
BalloThings used to be simple22:35
ravagegood luck on your search for the past then22:35
Balloyes, back when you set the route it would stay set22:35
BalloAmazingly, still works in MacOS Ventura22:36
ravage!ot Ballo22:36
ravage!ot | Ballo22:36
ubottuBallo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:36
ph88hi all, does someone know a 2023 replacement for this old functionality? https://www.howtogeek.com/111989/how-to-sync-quickly-reinstall-applications-on-ubuntu/22:44
Eickmeyerph88: Functionality was never replaced.22:46
EickmeyerWas a great concept though, and very useful.22:47
ph88maybe 3rd party implementation ?22:47
EickmeyerPerhaps something scripted. Really, "sudo apt install {list of packages}" would do the same thing.22:47
Eickmeyer(from the terminal)22:47
EickmeyerOf course, that's assuming you knew which whole applications you had installed.22:48
EickmeyerSadly, I believe the Ubuntu Software's implementation was one-of-a-kind.22:48
EickmeyerMaybe in the future it will come back, but who knows. Might be worth a feature request. If you hang on a minute, ph88, I'll direct you to the github repo where you could make such a request.22:49
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Eickmeyerph88: https://github.com/ubuntu/app-center/issues22:50
ph88Eickmeyer, if i list all packages, save them to a file with exact versions, then use this file to reinstall on another pc. Is that asking for trouble ?22:51
ph88thanks for the link22:51
Eickmeyerph88: Potentially, because you might install items that are merely dependencies or recommends that then get marked as manually installed, which means they're no longer automatically installed. When that happens, if you remove a whole app and it is no longer required, the computer thinks it still is.22:52
Eickmeyers/it/the dependency22:52
EickmeyerSo when you go to autoremove, nothing gets removed.22:53
ph88Eickmeyer, do you know if i can get a list of packages that were manually installed ?22:55
Eickmeyerph88: Let me think about that a minute. That's an excellent question!22:55
Eickmeyerph88: apt-mark showmanual22:56
ph88ok what if i sync that list between two computers. and sync the home directory too. Am i good to go then ?22:56
* Eickmeyer has been packaging for years and learned something22:56
EickmeyerHonestly, I think so!22:57
ph88that's nice. worth a try i think :D22:57
EickmeyerYep!22:57
ph88then i can work at home from my pc and take my laptop and it will be the same22:57
EickmeyerGranted, it wouldn't grab any snaps that were installed, but that's an easy list to get too.22:57
ph88i'm even surprised that when i googled for this my search turned up very little22:58
ph88how to grab the snaps ?22:58
Eickmeyersnap list22:58
Eickmeyer(almost too easy)22:58
EickmeyerSome come pre-installed, so make sure you snap list there too.22:59
ph88Eickmeyer, should i use rsync and cron or something else ?23:04
EickmeyerTo backup your home?23:04
ph88Eickmeyer, yes to sync the home dir23:43
Eickmeyerph88: Ah. If you're doing an *immediate transfer*, then yes, I'd do rsync (no need to cron unless you want to backup consistently). rsync can even transfer over ssh using the same syntax as scp.23:44
ph88Eickmeyer, i was thinking i would set it to check every 5 minutes or so. So that it always stays in sync. Would that be fine ?23:49
EickmeyerWhat exactly are you trying to do? Keep two machines constantly in sync?23:50
ph88yes23:50
ph88How would i deal with the scenario that one machine deleted a file .. it would have to be deleted on the other machine as well. Can rsync do that ?23:50
EickmeyerThen I'd recommend something a little more centrallized, like nextcloud or something else.23:51
EickmeyerYou're going to be pulling your hair out trying to implement something with just nextcloud.23:51
EickmeyerEven syncthing might be a decent option, which is decentrallized.23:52
ph88can i install nextcloud on my pc23:52
ph88?23:52
Eickmeyers/nextcloud/rsync23:52
EickmeyerWell, yes and no.23:52
EickmeyerNextcloud has a server and client setup.23:52
EickmeyerYou'd, in theory, need three machines: one server and two clients, for what you're trying to do.23:53
EickmeyerSyncthing might be a better option for you.23:53
ph88ok23:53
ph88thank you23:53
EickmeyerYou're welcome. In my experience, syncthing was buggy, but that was years ago.23:53

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