[00:24] <jsmooth> toddc: My laptop hard drive is too small, that's why I installed onto USB flash. I got recommendation form a computer engineer (professional) to do so. HE said it might be a bit slow, but would be my best answer. Slowness isn't the issue though.
[00:45] <leftyfb> jsmooth: how small is the hard drive?
[01:01] <Pinguin_44> anyone alive in here?
[01:04] <Pinguin_44> I'm using kubuntu 22.04. I have a tether setup to my phone via usb running an app called tetrd. I'm sharing the internet via ethernet into the router's internet port. If I enable the built in firewall in Kubuntu settings with the rule allow all incoming and allow all outgoing I lose internet on the router.
[01:47] <c0ld5n4p> can I use FSCK to check / repair a windows based drive?? or does it not do the same as chkdsk would do?
[01:48] <leftyfb> c0ld5n4p: no. You can use ntfsfix but you are better off using Windows to run chkdsk
[01:50] <c0ld5n4p> thx
[04:59] <josh_> Greetings! I have upgraded to Ubuntu 23.03 and I am experiencing some freezing issues, has anyone  faced such issues and if so is there a workaround?
[05:35] <kotgc> Hello, can Ubuntu.iso be downloaded whilst including virt-manager? The machine has no Internet until a KVM router is installed.
[05:38] <kotgc> I can download virt-manager.tar.gz onto a USB, however the Ubuntu.iso needs Internet to install some packages, to run virt-manager.
[06:37] <mark__> sup guys
[07:34] <hary> hello ...
[07:34] <hary> jakarta from here
[07:35] <enyc> hary: what do you mean?
[07:35] <enyc> ubuntu qusetion?
[07:35] <hary> yes
[07:35] <kotgc> How to install virt-install on ubuntu22 desktop with no Internet?
[07:36] <hary> 1st time lubuntu
[07:36] <hary> trying how fast this os
[07:37] <enyc> kotgc: I suspect thats' part of "virt-manager" package
[07:37] <kotgc> enyc, yes, I'm trying to install virt-manager without Internet...I have the tar.gz file on USB
[07:37] <enyc> kotgc: not exactly sure but you may be able to save all the .deb files  and faff  but imho thats a bit silly, better to set up temporary internet connection, get everyithing installed, ...
[07:37] <enyc> kotgc: you shouldn't need tar files,  as virt-manager is a core deb package
[07:38] <enyc> kotgc: compliing from tar.gz source is needless faff
[07:38] <kotgc> enyc, well, that's it...once virt manager is installed, I can install internet on a KVM.
[07:38] <enyc> kotgc: ONE approach to this is as follows:-
[07:39] <enyc> kotgc: (1) get another separate machine with internet,  clean ubuntu install [NOT with packages etc added]    (2) on that machine,  sudo apt-get install virt-manager
[07:39] <kotgc> I have the unzipped tar.gz file, which is: virt-manager-4.1.0
[07:39] <enyc> kotgc: yes you DONT WANT tar.gz file
[07:39] <enyc> kotgc: deb packages ALREADY inscluded in ubuntu
[07:40] <kotgc> enyc, really, can ubuntu show me the GUI icon VMM, so I can then install the KVM?
[07:40] <enyc> kotgc: (3) then you have in  /var/cache/apt/archives/   all the .deb files needed,  copy that whole set of .deb's  to the machine you need it on
[07:41] <enyc> kotgc: you can then start installing the suitable .deb's  including all the dependencies and virt-manager deb itself
[07:41] <enyc> kotgc: notice ubuntu ALREADY has virt-manager  as deb packages  included,  you DO NOT need to  tar.gz  install at all
[07:42] <kotgc> enyc, ok, I see these deb files https://dpaste.org/quMEU
[07:42] <enyc> kotgc: you MISSED step (1)
[07:43] <kotgc> enyc, Step 1 is tricky, I have only this machine on Internet right now, so I'm trying to find the deb file here.
[07:43] <enyc> kotgc: its tricky whatever you do
[07:44] <enyc> kotgc: you could use a chroot ararngement on internet connected machine
[07:44] <enyc> kotgc: debootstrap  chroot ubuntu jammy22.04LTS
[07:45] <enyc> kotgc: if you have a CLEAN chroot or CLEAN ubuntu with internet,  NOT just another machine ...  then when you  apt-get -yd install virt-manager ...    you'll get all the necessary deb packages in  /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:45] <enyc> kotgc: you can then  transfer all those .deb's  to the offline machine  and use them to install all those packages to make virt-manager work
[07:48] <kotgc> enyc, can I copy these deb files over to a new machine now?
[07:48] <enyc> kotgc: its' also possible to manually find them all in    https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/virt-manager   and get the "all" or "amd64"  version  but then you need every single dependent package manually as well
[07:48] <kotgc> ok
[07:48] <enyc> kotgc: what do you mean,  you didn't DETAIL  the steps you already took to get a clean machine  FIRST
[07:48] <kotgc> no clean machine.
[07:49] <enyc> kotgc: so set one up, or set up a clean chroot  as I said
[07:50] <kotgc> bit of a trick for KVM routers. Need Internet for the deb packages. I'll look up what a clean chroot is.
[07:50] <enyc> kotgc: chroot environment is a way to get a  basic ubuntu or debian or other distro  inside another system  without full virtualization
[07:50] <enyc> kotgc: what I mean by 'clean' is one you have NOT added packages to yet
[07:51] <kotgc> ok
[07:51] <enyc> kotgc: so that when you    sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager    it then ... "gets" all the package files into /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:51] <enyc> kotgc: no good doing that on system with virt-manager or at least many of the dependencies  already installed,  as the .deb's you need won't be saved
[07:51] <kotgc> enyc, I'm missing why I can't use this computer and need to do a clean machine and then download virt-manager?
[07:52] <kotgc> This machine was clean until I downloaded the VMM.
[07:52] <enyc> kotgc: ''downloaded'' too-vague
[07:52] <enyc> kotgc: did you  "suto apt install virt-manager"  or what EXACTLY ?
[07:52] <kotgc> enyc, installed Virtual Machine Manager.
[07:53] <enyc> kotgc: what ubuntu package is that installed with ?
[07:53] <enyc> kotgc: aah package "virt-manager"  it would seem hrrm
[07:54] <enyc> kotgc: if this other machine  had  "sudo apt install virt-manager"  recently  then  you should already have  virt-manager deb  in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:54] <kotgc> enyc, yes, I think I ran command: sudo apt install virt-manager, as per https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/virtualization-virt-tools
[07:55] <enyc> which wasn't on the list you showed be earlier i think
[07:55] <kotgc> enyc, this one, strange? https://dpaste.org/quMEU
[07:56] <enyc> kotgc: exactly  maybe it was a while ago
[07:56] <kotgc> enyc, Ubuntu now has a big app icon saying Virtual Machine Manager.
[07:56] <enyc> kotgc: this is what i'm sayincg  you could just get another machine or set up a chroot or whatever
[07:57] <enyc> kotgc: then  sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager   on that clean machine  and  voila  all needed deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:57] <kotgc> ok
[07:58] <enyc> kotgc: you CAN  sudo apt-get -yd install --reinstall virt-manager     but you'll only get virt-manager  deb   ... similarly you could download that deb manually starting from  https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/virt-manager   BUT  when you try to  sudo dpkg -i   the virt-manager  deb package  on that offline machine you'll then find you need loads of other dependent packages
[07:59] <kotgc> yes
[08:01] <enyc> kotgc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot  <- I imagine you can set up a  Jammy  chroot  and then   sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager   to get  [/path/to/chroot...]/var/cache/apt/archives/   .deb 's you need
[08:01] <kotgc> enyc, thx, I'll read that
[08:02] <enyc> kotgc: you can use either gui tools or  sudo dpkg -i    to install from .deb  files ...
[08:02] <kotgc> ok
[08:03] <enyc> kotgc: KEEP NOTE DONT LOSE:  it MAY be helpful to  go into the chroot,  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade  THEN  sudo apt-get clean    FIRST  [cleans out  /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb]   THEN   sudo apt-get -yd install --reinstall virt-manager     SO that you only get the 'addon packages' needed  to a basic clean install
[08:04] <enyc> uerr
[08:04] <enyc> kotgc: KEEP NOTE DONT LOSE:  it MAY be helpful to  go into the chroot,  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade  THEN  sudo apt-get clean    FIRST  [cleans out  /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb]   THEN   sudo apt-get -yd install virt-manager     SO that you only get the 'addon packages' needed  to a basic clean install
[08:04]  * enyc meows =)
[09:17] <Mike112> hey guys, is it possible to force a Steam game to run on the integrated GPU, please? I've done a fresh installation of ubuntu 23.04 on my gaming laptop with and AMD Ryzen 7 3750H CPU with Radeon Vega 10 integrated GPU + nVidia GTX 1660Ti discrete GPU. So far so good. I've installed Brave, Steam, nvidia v535 drivers. Games work fine. I have the
[09:17] <Mike112> feeling the run on the discrete gpu by default, so I'd like to test how they run on the integrated gpu
[09:21] <Mike112> why do I have the feeling the games run on the dGPU by default is that the FPS is too good in my opinion. I have 60 FPS on a new 3D strategy game and that would seem to be too good to be true for an iGPU
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Mike112: could it be, hybrid graphics your app needs to be launched with right mouse click, then choose the graphics of choice?
[09:36] <Mike112> I only see Run using Discrete GPU, unfortunately
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> Mike112: what about nvidia-prime package, can you choose powersaving vs performance mode there?
[09:49] <Mike112> I could only select "Performance Mode" and "On-Demand Mode", but it behaves exactly the same
[09:49] <Mike112> I just installed GPU Profile Selector: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/5009/gpu-profile-selector/
[09:50] <Mike112> this allows me to select Integrated GPU, so this worked. Now the FPS is much lower, so it seems it really switched to the iGPU
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> ah nice looks cool Mike112
[09:50] <Mike112> thanks anyway! :)
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> but weird gnome cant handle that by default
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> there's also a switcheroo package that can do things on hybrid graphics Mike112
[09:51] <Mike112> yeah, one would expect it would have both, "Run on Discrete GPU" and "Run on Integrated GPU" when right-clicking on app iconž
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> maybe check your dmesg logs if thats your case
[09:51] <Mike112> ok, thank you. I'll check switcheroo
[10:35] <jsmooth> I keep getting "timed out" trying to run composer install for a Laravel project. A search has shown it may be an ipv6 issue, but I don't want to type in a command I don't understand for making ipv4 have priority. I'm using Ubuntu 22 with WSL 2
[11:08] <Instantcarma> hallo
[11:08] <Instantcarma> hi
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> welcome Instantcarma
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you today?
[11:13] <casualuse> hello
[11:14] <casualuse> anyone here
[11:14] <casualuse> I was just banned from the ubuntu forum
[11:14] <casualuse> for trying to connect with fellow opensource developers
[11:14] <casualuse> I posted my GPL'd project
[11:14] <casualuse> coffeedipshit banned me
[11:14] <casualuse> I want you to take my ip address down
[11:15] <casualuse> because I'm tired of every fucking place banning anyone who isn't a mewling slave
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> please keep the language family friendly casualuse
[11:15] <mozambique> godd dam it
[11:15] <casualuse> I will kill you fucks when WW3 gets going, and things get chaotic
[11:15] <casualuse> do you fking understand?
[11:15] <jeremy31> casualuse: this is not the place to complain
[11:15] <casualuse> I am just trying to get some fellow C programmers
[11:15] <alphasierra> > I will kill you fucks when WW3 gets going, and things get chaotic, and you wonder hwy you were banned
[11:15] <alphasierra> lmao
[11:15] <casualuse> I posted in "general questions"
[11:16] <casualuse> alphasierra: I'm 37
[11:16] <KingShark> can you link that post i am curious
[11:16] <jeremy31> ubuntuforums.org is not the place to advertise projects
[11:16] <casualuse> russia started ww3
[11:16] <mozambique> ask for the term of search
[11:16] <alphasierra> casualuse, do not understand how that is relevean
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !ops
[11:16] <mozambique> it's better than the link
[11:16] <casualuse> jeremy31: "nowhere" is the place to "advertise" projects
[11:16] <casualuse> im NOT going to obey "u cant get contributors anywhere hahahha it's the rulez"
[11:17] <casualuse> see lotuspsychje calling for mods allready
[11:17] <casualuse> probably a woman
[11:17] <alphasierra> obvious troll
[11:17] <casualuse> alphasierra: nope dipshit
[11:17] <jeremy31> nipseyhussle2
[11:17] <casualuse> older than you
[11:17] <casualuse> and been opensource programming for over 20 years
[11:17] <casualuse> jeremy31: im going to post urls as asked
[11:17] <mozambique> my mind was deleted and iam 44
[11:18] <casualuse> ofcourse I'm sure that's against the rulez too
[11:18] <casualuse> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491029
[11:18] <casualuse> https://web.archive.org/save/https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491029
[11:18] <casualuse> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491030&p=14158714#post14158714
[11:18] <casualuse> https://web.archive.org/save/https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2491030&p=14158714#post14158714
[11:18] <casualuse>  
[11:18] <alphasierra> i am a 120, and have been programmin since before opensource was a thing
[11:18] <alphasierra> :)
[11:18] <mozambique> 120
[11:18] <mozambique> thats a beautifull age
[11:19] <alphasierra> sending me dm's now
[11:19] <alphasierra> lol
[11:21] <jeremy31> He should have posted in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:21] <KingShark> check his forum threads though its fun
[11:21] <KingShark> he posted in general help and the post is named 'Hi (wanted to say hi) '
[11:21] <jeremy31> The ubuntuforums posts were hidden from public view
[11:22] <KingShark> the web.archive.org links still work
[11:22] <KingShark> casualuse, (not sure if you are muted): general help and trying to find fellow developers is not a good match
[11:23] <KingShark> casualuse, 'general help'is meant as 'general help using ubuntu'
[11:31] <casualuse> as you can see
[11:31] <casualuse> you asked for the URLS
[11:31] <casualuse> I gave them
[11:31] <casualuse> banned by a bot
[11:31] <jeremy31> Banned by the bot for the same reason you got banned from ubuntuforums
[11:32] <casualuse> KingShark: did you get the urls of the posts? I also posted the webarchive.
[11:33] <casualuse> alphasierra: this look like a "troll" to you (you'll say yes to be snarky and "ironic"): chaosesqueteam.itch.io/chaosesque-anthology    libregamewiki.org/Chaos_Esque_Anthology
[11:33] <casualuse> jeremy31: go to hell asshole
[11:33] <KingShark> casualuse, yeah BUT you posted on 'general help' which is meant as in 'general help using ubuntu'
[11:33] <casualuse> whatever
[11:33] <KingShark> not as in 'general help for anything'
[11:33] <casualuse> you have 7000 forums
[11:33] <casualuse> and 9000 that get 0 views
[11:34] <casualuse> general is the only one that ever gets any posts in any forum anyway
[11:34] <KingShark> casualuse, try finding fellow developers in more developer-centric environments than the ubuntu general help section :)
[11:34] <casualuse> I used to run a phpbb2 : so I know
[11:34] <casualuse> KingShark: there are none anymore
[11:34] <jeremy31> The view counter on ubuntuforums has been broken since 2016
[11:34] <casualuse> lol
[11:34] <KingShark> casualuse, i found a friend to develop with by developing for an existing open source game and we are now working on our own projects xD
[11:34] <casualuse> git browsing on sourceforge has been broken since 2012?
[11:34] <casualuse> I've complained but they never fixed it
[11:35] <casualuse> atleast I can torify git push to their tho
[11:35] <casualuse> I have to publish my git repos as 25gb split tarballs tho every so often
[11:35] <KingShark> casualuse, maybe use an existing game development engine and then get together with other devs that use it
[11:35] <casualuse> KingShark: allready did that: this is a 10 yr old project
[11:36] <casualuse> has 200 weapons, 60 vehicles, 100+maps etc
[11:36] <casualuse> I put a link above in my post to alphanevada
[11:36] <alphasierra> casualuse, while the project might be impressive, your behaviour is not
[11:36] <casualuse> KingShark: recently I've been adding some mode/map file formats
[11:36] <casualuse> alphasierra: woman
[11:36] <casualuse> alphasierra: you want to fight me we can fight
[11:37] <casualuse> we can
[11:37] <casualuse> so time and place
[11:37] <KingShark> casualuse, you are comedy gold :))
[11:37] <casualuse> equal rights, equal lefts
[11:37] <alphasierra> in a 100 years, on the moon
[11:37] <alphasierra> i'll see you there :)
[11:37] <casualuse> alphasierra: only india will be there then
[11:37] <casualuse> russia couldn't do it anymore
[11:37] <casualuse> and we don't even try
[11:38] <casualuse> KingShark: I was adding some new file formats this summer
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[11:38] <casualuse> MineTest exports and BZFlag exports
[11:38] <casualuse> lotuspsychje: oh so I can't even talk to someone now?
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> please stop that casualuse , only ubuntu support issues here
[11:38] <casualuse> lotuspsychje: _fuck_ you
[11:38] <casualuse> lotuspsychje: I will not dip fucking shit
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> not here no
[11:38] <casualuse> lotuspsychje: fuck you faggot
[11:38] <casualuse> been in opensource longer than you
[11:39] <casualuse> ill do as I please
[11:39] <casualuse> with as many IPs as I please
[11:39] <casualuse> understand zoomer fuck
[11:39] <casualuse> KingShark: the opinion of BZFlag and MineTest as to what exactly an obj file is, is different than the engines
[11:39] <casualuse> KingShark: so for each I had to do some programming
[11:40] <casualuse> KingShark: BZFlag's "obj file" wouldn't even show up at all
[11:40] <casualuse> turns out some of their values were inverted
[11:40] <casualuse> and both had a different idea of what "up" was
[11:40] <KingShark> casualuse, i am to lazy to write the foundations myself, i use the godot engine and am happy with it
[11:40] <casualuse> and, ofcourse, scaling
[11:40] <KingShark> there are so many free engines out there..
[11:41] <casualuse> KingShark: I added wolfenstine:enemyterritory bsp loading to this engine last year :)
[11:41] <casualuse> got us 600 extra maps to play
[11:41] <casualuse> the minetest stuff actually got us anything you can export as obj from blender tho
[11:41] <casualuse> so all of sketchfab :P
[11:42] <casualuse> name it map.obj_from_mc and you can add directives like map.scale128.obj_from_mc and others
[11:42] <casualuse> KingShark: our engine is Quake1: but lots have been added over the years
[11:42] <casualuse> Quake3 map format is the default I use when mapping
[11:42] <casualuse> lord havoc and others added a ton a decade ago
[11:43] <casualuse> I've been programming things in as needed
[11:43] <casualuse> KingShark: I wanted the unreal 97/ UT99 formats now tho
[11:43] <casualuse> figured "hey don't opensource projects usually have lots of people?"
[11:43] <casualuse> "I just have me, and that's been enough"
[11:43] <casualuse> "but blender has alot of formats because it has people"
[11:43] <KingShark> casualuse, they do but they are usually occupied working on existing stuff already x)
[11:44] <casualuse> yea ... but
[11:44] <casualuse> in the sourcecode I linked
[11:44] <KingShark> casualuse, not having enough devs is a problem many projects suffer from. and its a circle: no devs > no features. no features > no users. no users > not attractive to other devs.
[11:44] <casualuse> I allready did the setup so .t3d will load as a file (you can do map bla.t3d)
[11:44] <casualuse> and it will load the vertexs
[11:44] <casualuse> Well I only have me as a dev
[11:44] <KingShark> you would need to attract someone who cares deeply about your project to reach some critical mass xD
[11:44] <casualuse> and I've done:
[11:44] <casualuse> maps
[11:44] <casualuse> textures
[11:44] <casualuse> engine code (C)
[11:44] <casualuse> gamecode (QC)
[11:45] <casualuse> music
[11:45] <casualuse> sfx
[11:45] <casualuse> etc
[11:45] <KingShark> maybe post on forums for your development language
[11:45] <casualuse> hhhahahhahahahahahah
[11:45] <casualuse> lol
[11:45] <casualuse> you're a funny guy too
[11:45] <casualuse> I try that
[11:45] <casualuse> 1) No registrations allowed on 1/2 of them
[11:45] <casualuse> 2) banned in 2 seconds
[11:46] <casualuse> everything's "against the rulez" from stick up they asses
[11:46] <casualuse> because the stick-up-they-asses don't program or do anything
[11:46] <KingShark> considering you posted in general help on ubuntu to try to find devs, they might be on to something x)
[11:46] <casualuse> so they become "important" by "managing"
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !ops | casualuse language & offtopic
[11:46] <casualuse> KingShark: the msg I got was "u r banned for 42 points because spam"
[11:46] <casualuse> KingShark: see lotuspsychje is doing it too
[11:46] <casualuse> he can't code
[11:47] <casualuse> so he's "enforcing"
[11:47] <KingShark> guess that is because you made like 5+ comments on your own post instead of putting it in one post
[11:47] <casualuse> well I wanted to post screenshots
[11:47] <KingShark> link the imgur in the initial post
[11:47] <casualuse> and make it not like a wall of text
[11:47] <casualuse> imgur is after my time
[11:47] <casualuse> and the first post I wanted to have no links
[11:47] <casualuse> as when people see a link they ignore the post
[11:47] <KingShark> if you keep commenting on your own thread, its pretending activity that does not exist. which is against usual forum ettiquette
[11:48] <casualuse> I don't care about transsexual things like ettiquette
[11:48] <casualuse> I was running shell servers before such things existed.
[11:48] <casualuse> before #debain-woman too
[11:48] <KingShark> nice for you but if you dont want to play by others rules why are you surprised they ban you x)
[11:49] <casualuse> KingShark: I'll eventually kill them
[11:49] <casualuse> when WW3 gets more chaotic
[11:49] <KingShark> did you forget to take your pills x)
[11:49] <casualuse> "could of prevented this with t3d"
[11:49] <casualuse> KingShark: only pills I take are for the heart
[11:49] <casualuse> and it's still burning with a desire to add more features
[11:49] <KingShark> well. you might want to see a psychologist for your anger issues and get some more pills xD
[11:51] <casualus8>  pressed the "stop" ctrl thing
[11:51] <casualus8> oops
[11:51] <casualus8> KingShark: https://chaosesqueteam.itch.io/chaosesque-anthology
[11:51] <casualus8> some screenshots
[11:52] <casualus8> as you can see: my project can procedurally generate cities with interiors to all
[11:52] <casualus8> (also level of detail)
[11:52] <casualus8> but you can use that to generate whatever you want, map wise
[11:52] <casualus8> supports using other models as heightmaps too
[11:53] <casualus8> KingShark: and here's a video of the wolfenstine enemy territory maps working:
[11:53] <casualus8> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6FytoJxek
[11:53] <casualus8> anyone here anymore?
[11:54] <casualus8> or did "stop execution of program" stop everybody?
[11:58] <casualus8> https://sourceforge.net/p/chaosesqueanthology/discussion/general/thread/bed4ec239c/
[12:34] <akik> fedora is planning on disabling xorg for plasma and gnome. does ubuntu have these plans?
[12:36] <spratle> i think it is being discussed only at the moment
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:48] <foomo> After a reboot my wired connection stopped working - only wifi works. Could someone please help me diagnose/fix it?
[12:52] <ioria> foomo, is the interface up and configured ? run 'ip a'
[12:53] <foomo> ioria: I presume I'm looking for `eth0`, which is not there
[12:54] <ioria> foomo, run 'lspci -nnk'
[12:56] <foomo> ioria: there I see `Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:525a] (rev 01)`
[12:57] <ioria> foomo, run 'dmesg | grep rtsx_pci'
[12:58] <foomo> ioria: the only line found is `[   14.182677] rtsx_pci 0000:3b:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)`
[12:59] <ioria> foomo, maybe better if you paste the full output of 'lspci -nnk'
[12:59] <ioria> foomo, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:00] <foomo> ioria: https://termbin.com/yhirl
[13:03] <ioria> foomo, is the ethernet integrated or on a different slot ?
[13:03] <foomo> ioria: integrated
[13:05] <ioria> foomo, and what's your kernel ? uname -r
[13:05] <foomo> ioria: 5.15.0-84-generic
[13:07] <ioria> foomo, i don't see an Ethernet controller there
[13:09] <foomo> ioria: seem like hardware failure?
[13:09] <OnkelTem> Hi folks
[13:09] <OnkelTem> Since when `pastebinit` posts in a restricted area? People need an account to view the posting?
[13:10] <OnkelTem> I either mess it up with another similar utility or they made it restricted recently
[13:10] <ioria> foomo, if integrated , would be a rare case, but sure might be; try to boot another kernel and check again lspci
[13:11] <foomo> ioria: how do I boot another kernel, and what am I looking for in the lspci output?
[13:11] <foomo> I had this happen once before and it seemingly resolved itself after a reboot, but no such luck this time.
[13:12] <ioria> foomo, from grub, and you check for an 'Ethernet Controller'; unless is that Communication controller [0780]:
[13:12] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: the ubuntu pastebin, the pastebin pastebinit on ubuntu default to using (but it supports several others), has unfortunately been required, for legal reasons, to introduce these restructions.
[13:12] <tomreyn> (this is unrelated to the pastebinit utility)
[13:13] <OnkelTem> so anyone can post w/o an account, but only authed users can view then? :)
[13:14] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: i think so, yes
[13:14] <OnkelTem> cool! (no)
[13:14] <foomo> ioria: okay, going to try now. ty
[13:14] <ioria> ok
[13:14] <OnkelTem> thanks for the answer tomreyn
[13:15] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: there are many other pastebins and pastebin-like services which can be more convenient to use since they do not have these restrictions, yet.
[13:15] <OnkelTem> I would like to use them from command line, are you folks aware of an alternative
[13:16] <tomreyn> echo hello |& nc termbin.com 9999
[13:16] <OnkelTem> :D
[13:16] <OnkelTem> thanks tomreyn !
[13:18] <tomreyn> you're welcome - read their website, this service aslso applies some limitations (as do others), which may come unexpectedly.
[13:19] <OnkelTem> ok!
[13:20] <tomreyn> more importantly, a 1000 lines limit. and the connection closes after 3(?) seconds, so if anything before the pipe into nc has not finished within these 3 seconds, nothing will get posted.
[13:22] <OnkelTem> I like it, so minimal, so easy. Already created an alias (`tb` obviously)
[13:23] <OnkelTem> ah, hence the '&' tomreyn?
[13:23] <OnkelTem> I'm familiar with command line, just don't remember that I was using `|&`
[13:23] <tomreyn> the & character ensures, in bash only, that standard error output also goes through the pipe
[13:24] <tomreyn> so not just standard output
[13:24] <OnkelTem> hm
[13:24] <OnkelTem> I use usually 2 > &1
[13:24] <OnkelTem> So & is like a shortcut?
[13:24] <tomreyn> you can do this, it's just more to type
[13:24] <tomreyn> yes
[13:24] <OnkelTem> Haha. Darn, I wish I knew it before
[13:25] <tomreyn> man bash discusses this and A LOT more things. and the wooledge.org wiki also does so, in a much more readable way.
[13:26] <tomreyn> https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashSheet#Piping
[13:27] <nuala> i have one specific game (kinda my favorite sadly) not respecting remapping changes im doing in jstest(gtk). i can confirm like in firefox the changes are applied and effect immediatly the javascript test thing i use for second point of reference :s any chance to 'force' a mapping to a unity app (native linux build of hollow knight)
[13:40] <akik> tomreyn: what legal reasons?
[13:41] <tomreyn> akik: i guess it was more a matter of "too much effort taken due to too many gdpr requests". but that's just heresay, i don't know the details.
[13:44] <Your_Dog> nuala: If you have steam, then just use steam controller to override keybinds, on the otherhand, you could use something like antimicrox
[13:53] <nuala> Your_Dog: actually i was not expect steam to pickup non-steam games and doing its magic on the controller. but it does. (so modding e.g. via Lumafly is in the cards!) good call! But I keep an eye on antimicrox. Thank you!
[14:10] <cfoch> Hello
[14:10] <cfoch> Does Ubuntu already support "Device Tree"?
[14:14] <leftyfb> cfoch: you mean this? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dtc.1.html
[14:14] <leftyfb> !info device-tree-compiler
[14:14] <cfoch> Not at all. I meant:
[14:14] <cfoch> $ cat /boot/config-6.2.0-33-generic | grep CONFIG_OF
[14:14] <cfoch> # CONFIG_OF is not set
[14:15] <leftyfb> so set it?
[14:15] <cfoch> But for that I have to re-compile the kernel.
[14:15] <leftyfb> yes
[14:16] <cfoch> That's why I was asking if Ubuntu already supports device tree. I am on Ubuntu Focal, old distro.
[14:16] <leftyfb> cfoch: not sure if this helps you https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-42-of/2
[14:18] <cfoch> I am not sure either :)
[16:45] <prov> Hi guys I just install U Server and I have and can install software using Ubuntu-software but I would like to install Solaar for my Logitech Mouse however when I try to install it the install button changes to Cancel and nothing happens. If I come out and search for Solaar again then it appears in the software list but now says Pending at the end of the row  I can install other software fine.  Any ideas please anyone?  thanks
[16:48] <jeremy31> Reboot?
[16:51] <prov> Yeah I gave that ago and its the same
[16:51] <prov> Is there a setting that stops it installing if the app is classed as "Potentially Unsafe"
[17:56] <Guest1l|11> hey losers guess what, fuuuuuulalalalalalaaaauuucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkk you
[17:56] <leftyfb> Guest1l|11: trolling is offtopic here. This is support channel
[17:57] <kostkon> tsk tsk
[17:57] <Guest1l|11> I need liiiiiiiii support so I can a dumb windows 11 coms so I can get ubuntu on it with money I don't got
[17:57] <kostkon> here they are again
[17:58] <Guest1l|11> what's the best way to pay for ubuntu?
[17:58] <leftyfb> Guest1l|11: go away
[17:59] <Guest1l|11> I'm asking a legit idea und this shit ain't clean
[17:59] <leftyfb> Guest1l|11: /join #politics, they love trolls
[18:01] <kostkon> Guest1l|11, if you've got legitimate support questions to ask go ahead and ask them. Otherwise please remain quiet, you can stay on this channel, just please don't troll
[18:02] <kostkon> oh they changed their nick in the meantime
[22:23] <Ballo> Hello. I'm used to a stripped down UNIX machine and something somewhere in modern Linus is resetting my default gateway
[22:24] <Ballo> If there a way to disable all the services so I can just get my old non-NERFed UNIX back?
[22:30] <topcat001> Ubuntu is not exactly stripped down, but the server version is pretty minimal.
[22:32] <leftyfb> Ballo: what release of ubuntu are you running?
[22:34] <Ballo> 22.04 I think
[22:35] <Ballo> I think I chose the wrong distro tbh
[22:35] <Ballo> Things used to be simple
[22:35] <ravage> good luck on your search for the past then
[22:35] <Ballo> yes, back when you set the route it would stay set
[22:36] <Ballo> Amazingly, still works in MacOS Ventura
[22:36] <ravage> !ot Ballo
[22:36] <ravage> !ot | Ballo
[22:44] <ph88> hi all, does someone know a 2023 replacement for this old functionality? https://www.howtogeek.com/111989/how-to-sync-quickly-reinstall-applications-on-ubuntu/
[22:46] <Eickmeyer> ph88: Functionality was never replaced.
[22:47] <Eickmeyer> Was a great concept though, and very useful.
[22:47] <ph88> maybe 3rd party implementation ?
[22:47] <Eickmeyer> Perhaps something scripted. Really, "sudo apt install {list of packages}" would do the same thing.
[22:47] <Eickmeyer> (from the terminal)
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> Of course, that's assuming you knew which whole applications you had installed.
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> Sadly, I believe the Ubuntu Software's implementation was one-of-a-kind.
[22:49] <Eickmeyer> Maybe in the future it will come back, but who knows. Might be worth a feature request. If you hang on a minute, ph88, I'll direct you to the github repo where you could make such a request.
[22:50] <Eickmeyer> ph88: https://github.com/ubuntu/app-center/issues
[22:51] <ph88> Eickmeyer, if i list all packages, save them to a file with exact versions, then use this file to reinstall on another pc. Is that asking for trouble ?
[22:51] <ph88> thanks for the link
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> ph88: Potentially, because you might install items that are merely dependencies or recommends that then get marked as manually installed, which means they're no longer automatically installed. When that happens, if you remove a whole app and it is no longer required, the computer thinks it still is.
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> s/it/the dependency
[22:53] <Eickmeyer> So when you go to autoremove, nothing gets removed.
[22:55] <ph88> Eickmeyer, do you know if i can get a list of packages that were manually installed ?
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> ph88: Let me think about that a minute. That's an excellent question!
[22:56] <Eickmeyer> ph88: apt-mark showmanual
[22:56] <ph88> ok what if i sync that list between two computers. and sync the home directory too. Am i good to go then ?
[22:56]  * Eickmeyer has been packaging for years and learned something
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, I think so!
[22:57] <ph88> that's nice. worth a try i think :D
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> Yep!
[22:57] <ph88> then i can work at home from my pc and take my laptop and it will be the same
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> Granted, it wouldn't grab any snaps that were installed, but that's an easy list to get too.
[22:58] <ph88> i'm even surprised that when i googled for this my search turned up very little
[22:58] <ph88> how to grab the snaps ?
[22:58] <Eickmeyer> snap list
[22:58] <Eickmeyer> (almost too easy)
[22:59] <Eickmeyer> Some come pre-installed, so make sure you snap list there too.
[23:04] <ph88> Eickmeyer, should i use rsync and cron or something else ?
[23:04] <Eickmeyer> To backup your home?
[23:43] <ph88> Eickmeyer, yes to sync the home dir
[23:44] <Eickmeyer> ph88: Ah. If you're doing an *immediate transfer*, then yes, I'd do rsync (no need to cron unless you want to backup consistently). rsync can even transfer over ssh using the same syntax as scp.
[23:49] <ph88> Eickmeyer, i was thinking i would set it to check every 5 minutes or so. So that it always stays in sync. Would that be fine ?
[23:50] <Eickmeyer> What exactly are you trying to do? Keep two machines constantly in sync?
[23:50] <ph88> yes
[23:50] <ph88> How would i deal with the scenario that one machine deleted a file .. it would have to be deleted on the other machine as well. Can rsync do that ?
[23:51] <Eickmeyer> Then I'd recommend something a little more centrallized, like nextcloud or something else.
[23:51] <Eickmeyer> You're going to be pulling your hair out trying to implement something with just nextcloud.
[23:52] <Eickmeyer> Even syncthing might be a decent option, which is decentrallized.
[23:52] <ph88> can i install nextcloud on my pc
[23:52] <ph88> ?
[23:52] <Eickmeyer> s/nextcloud/rsync
[23:52] <Eickmeyer> Well, yes and no.
[23:52] <Eickmeyer> Nextcloud has a server and client setup.
[23:53] <Eickmeyer> You'd, in theory, need three machines: one server and two clients, for what you're trying to do.
[23:53] <Eickmeyer> Syncthing might be a better option for you.
[23:53] <ph88> ok
[23:53] <ph88> thank you
[23:53] <Eickmeyer> You're welcome. In my experience, syncthing was buggy, but that was years ago.