[01:33] <atchaboi> How can I make my my computer not die when the lid is closed? (Computer still runs, (un)plugging power gives the confirmation sound, lot of heat from the bottom of the computer.)
[01:34] <atchaboi> I've edited `/etc/systemd/logind.conf` to use `HandleLidSwitch=hibernate` (and ran `sudo systemctl restart systemd-logind`, but when I ran this it resulted in a crash). When I run `journalctl -f > yourlogfile.log` and close the lid, I search and can't find "hibernate", but get this instead:   `Sep 23 18:17:38 computer systemd-logind[16214]: Lid closed. Sep 23 18:17:38 computer systemd-logind[16214]: Suspending...`
[01:35] <leftyfb> atchaboi: install gnome tweaks. It's the very first option
[01:37] <atchaboi> Turns out I've got this installed already and have that option selected
[01:37] <leftyfb> so unselect it
[01:40] <atchaboi> unselected, ran journalctl -f again and now no suspend is read in the log file, also the screen does not turn off when closed.
[02:50] <sin> Hey all, I rarely pop on here but I wanted to get a consensus on ProtonVPN ? What are your opinions, I couldn't find any viewable code but it's a VPN so that makes sense.
[02:51] <rbox> !ot
[02:55] <leftyfb> sin: ProtonVPN is a commercial service that has nothing to do with ubuntu other than they make a client for it(as well as MAc and Windows). It's not an ubuntu support issue. Feel free to ask for opinions on 3rd party services in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <el> you can use protonvpn without using their app, last i checked. you should be able to get .ovpn configs.
[05:26] <josh_> Good morning guys! Can anyone advise me on a good shooting game  for Ubuntu that will work on a laptop without a mouse?
[05:27] <lotuspsychj3> !discuss | josh_
[05:28] <josh_> Thanks and how do I do that?
[05:29] <lotuspsychj3> its explained in the factoid howto /join
[08:56] <ice9> so Ubuntu is doing a great job on full disk encryption with it's latest releases however it is still not encrypting /boot which is doesn't protect the computer if the attacker has physical access. I think this is vital to support and Debian 12 already supports it so why not?
[09:04] <akik> ice9: TJ- has written a guide on how to do it wih ubuntu
[09:04] <akik> ice9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[09:05] <gordonjcp> I don't really see what encrypting /boot would do
[09:05] <gordonjcp> can't say I'm particularly a fan of full disk encryption anyway
[09:06] <gordonjcp> why do you want to make your disk accesses painfully slow?
[09:27] <ravage> that argument is from about 10 years ago
[09:28] <ravage> on a modern system with hardware AES there is no significant performance loss
[09:29] <ravage> and in theory secure boot fixes the problem with unencrypted /boot
[11:02] <ice9> ravage, most firmware out there are of low quality and lots of vulnerabilities and the most important, they allow only "alpha numeric" short passwords, plus if the firmware is locked due to wrong credentials, the attacker can still reset the password by the generated firmware code or manufacturer default code :)
[11:11] <ravage> not sure what part of my answer that was relevant to
[11:16] <ice9> ravage, full disk encryption
[11:16] <ravage> i dont see any relevance related to Ubuntu's FDE here
[11:37] <tomreyn> ice9: do you have an reference for "Debian 12 already supports [encrypting /boot]" (see also #debian)
[11:39] <ice9> tomreyn, I'm already running Debian 12 and if you setup manually a partition for EFI and another one for / then chose encrypt /, it will automatically install all system including /boo under / which is encrypted; of course it uses LUKS1 in this case as old grub doesn't support LUKS2 to unlock /boo;  but in case of Ubuntu it uses grub 2.12 in Mantic which supports LUKS2 already since grub 2.11
[11:49] <tomreyn> thanks for the info, i should have brough tthis to a different channel.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:31] <user9d> hey ubuntuuuuu. how does it seem like you're not getting anything donnnnnne?
[13:32] <user9d> how's the issue resolutioning working out 10 years later?
[13:32] <user9d> eh?
[13:32] <user9d> how do you like the mega awesome web browser tech huh? eh?
[13:33] <user9d> how do you like ruining com's!!!!
[13:33] <user9d> with your shit
[13:33] <jeremy31> user9d: Take the non support chat somewhere else
[13:33] <mybalzitch> imagine coming into a channel full of volunteers to complain about things they have no control over
[13:33] <user9d> oh fuck this
[13:34] <mybalzitch> my eyes rolled so hard I might have whiplash
[13:34] <mybalzitch> sorry I'm done.
[13:36] <leftyfb> tomreyn: you might want to add *!*@96.76.125.161 to that
[13:36] <leftyfb> same ip for them for the past 11 days
[13:39] <tomreyn> leftyfb: thanks for trying to help. as a reminder, please use #ubuntu-ops for discussing and contributing to channel moderation.
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[14:03] <l0tuspsychj3> welcome bob1000000
[14:03] <leftyfb> !support | bob1000000
[14:03] <bob1000000> oh hi
[14:06] <bob1000000> support?
[14:07] <bob1000000> O_O
[14:13] <gordonjcp> bob1000000: did you have an Ubuntu question?
[15:19] <mozambique> does anyone knows whats the commando to join all channels in one server
[15:23] <l0tuspsychj3> not reccomended and not really an ubuntu support question mozambique
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[16:54] <segfaultfizzbuzz> i have a file which may or may not be malicious and i would like to open in in a safe/reasonably safe manner,... is there an equivalent of a "jail" that i can use on ubuntu which would be pretty good for this...?
[17:09] <matsaman> segfaultfizzbuzz: firejail could be one
[17:10] <matsaman> segfaultfizzbuzz: what makes you think it could be malicious
[17:11] <segfaultfizzbuzz> matsaman: paranoia
[17:13] <segfaultfizzbuzz> matsaman: hmm,... after looking at firejail i am now thinking about just using a vm,...
[17:14] <yes-ubuntu> hey! I have created a user called xyz in Ubuntu and I have set the /home/xyz to be readable by everybody and have put an xyz.txt there, also readable by everybody. when I try to open file:///home/xyz/xyz.txt I get "file couldn't be accessed" ? but from console, I am able to cat xyz.txt ?
[17:15] <yes-ubuntu> (and if I try cat /home/xyz/xyz.txt again, I get Permission denied?)
[17:17] <yes-ubuntu> got it...  :)
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[17:37] <FKAShinobi> Should the /efi parition also have a 1 in the /etc/fstab fs check order column?
[17:45] <matsaman> FKAShinobi: I don't think it'll actually matter in practice, for a couple reasons at least, so you may as well go wtih 2 as per man fstab
[17:45] <matsaman> go with*
[17:46] <FKAShinobi> matsaman: Thanks, it looked suspect, somehow it was set to 1 along with / during setup.
[17:47] <matsaman> if they were the same priority, it's not like one of them would not be checked
[17:47] <matsaman> if they were different priorities, it's not like one of them would not be checked
[17:49] <phinxy> Is there a ppa somewhere of more recent QEMU?
[17:49] <l0tuspsychj3> phinxy: the volunteers cant advice on external ppa's much
[17:49] <matsaman> phinxy: sometimes also called 'kvm' or 'qemu-kvm', etc
[17:50] <l0tuspsychj3> phinxy: adviced to use the official ubuntu repos and snaps
[17:51] <phinxy> Is there an easy way to build it?  I'm used to buildscripts doing the hard work
[17:51] <matsaman> snaps aren't better than a random third party .deb
[17:51] <matsaman> phinxy: you don't need to build it
[17:51] <matsaman> phinxy: what version do you want and why
[17:51] <FKAShinobi> I'm reading that wine needs to see the cd-rom in fstab to have access to it. I'm fine adding the specified entry, but doesn't Ubuntu mount the media automatically through a udev rule or something?
[17:52] <matsaman> your file manager does, yeah
[17:52] <matsaman> tldr: your desktop environment is not Wine
[17:52] <matsaman> but you could probably expose data from a mount made by your file manager to Wine, in some fashion, sure
[17:52] <matsaman> #winehq
[17:53] <FKAShinobi> matsaman: Understood, if I add a mount point in fstab, would that conflict with the existing rules to automount it?
[17:54] <phinxy> matsaman: no specific version, just as recent as possible without being cumbersome to install.  The reason being I'm having a graphical artifact with the built-in VNC server
[17:55] <matsaman> FKAShinobi: nope
[17:55] <FKAShinobi> matsaman: Perfect! Thank you sir!
[17:55] <matsaman> phinxy: what ubuntu version are you on?
[17:57] <phinxy> matsaman: Jammy
[18:01] <matsaman> jammy isn't a version
[18:02] <matsaman> let me just look up what the version is for 'jammy'
[18:02] <matsaman> 22.04
[18:04] <matsaman> phinxy: what's available, 6.2?
[18:05] <phinxy> Yarr
[18:05] <phinxy> 6.2.0
[18:07] <matsaman> phinxy: there's an 8.0.4 here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu
[18:26] <phinxy> I pinned * to jammy in /etc/apt/preferences and pinned qemu-system-x86 to mantic.  Added mantic to sources.list.  It seems fine except that pinning "qemu" meta package doesnt work.  Id rather not pin all ~20 qemu packages
[18:28] <leftyfb> phinxy: thsat's what you have to do. And this whole method isn't supported
[18:28] <phinxy> I managed to pin qemu-* with the glob *
[18:28] <phinxy> noted
[18:28] <leftyfb> good luck
[18:33] <leftyfb> phinxy: a better solution would be to use backportpackage to make your own PPA with those packages
[18:33] <leftyfb> assuming it works
[19:28] <yes-ubuntu54> Hey! I have five instances of gnome-text-editor opened and I experience a terrific slowdown, top shows gnome-text-editor to use 100% ? Is that normal?
[19:28] <yes-ubuntu54> (the slowdown is only within the gnome-text-editor)
[19:32] <bob1000000> hello i was afk
[19:37] <coconut> yes-ubuntu54, just installed that txt-editor and i have no cpu problems, perhaps you can try gedit for the time being?
[19:43] <elyograg> lots of people here!  How do I go about making a feature request for the raspberry pi image to support CPU variants that it does not support currently?  I tried the pi image for Ubuntu Server on a NanoPi R4S.  This is a SOC with the RK3399 cpu.  The image did not boot.
[19:44] <rbox> it looks like the rpi image is only fro raspberry pis
[19:44] <rbox> thats not a raspberry pi
[19:44] <Habbie> elyograg, why do you want to boot pi os on it, instead of debian?
[19:45] <Habbie> wait, ubuntu server?
[19:45] <elyograg> II have not hooked it up to a monitor so I do not know what sort of error messages might have been generated.  I currently have Armbian on it, but the newer armbian kernels only support the WAN port.  The LAN port is not detected.
[19:45] <Habbie> turns out i don't understand the question
[19:45] <elyograg> I want to run Ubuntu on it, like I do for my Raspberry Pi 3B and 4B.
[19:46] <Habbie> i'm sorry, i blindly assumed from the question we were in #raspberrypi
[19:46] <Habbie> ignore me
[19:46] <elyograg> If I run an older armbian on it, then WAN and LAN both work.  But once it is upgraded or configured to use a newer kernel, the LAN port disappears.
[19:48] <rox_> im new to all this
[19:48] <elyograg> I've reported that issue to the armbian project, but they don't seem to think it's a valid problem.  I'm very confused about why there are two different ethernet chipsets on the board, instead of two ports using the same chipset.
[19:49] <pavlos> elyograg: there is a R4S image with ubuntu 20.04 ... https://github.com/avafinger/nanopi-r4s-minimal-image
[19:50] <yes-ubuntu54> coconut: so, I had 5 instances of gnome-text-editor, I closed each of them and I still had one instance running @ 100% without a window? yes, at one point I tried to open gnome-text-editor from the terminal and, to my surprise, it did only point me to an already opened instance ... so, maybe, something got entangled there?
[19:50] <pavlos> elyograg: also this ... https://sd-card-images.johang.se/boards/nanopi_r4s.html
[19:51] <bob1000000>  rox i am new to all of this two
[19:56] <elyograg> @pavlos are those pure unmodified Ubuntu?  There is an armbian image based on Ubuntu, but they've fiddled with it.  And the newer kernels will only run the WAN interface.  My recently acquired raspberry pi 4b has 8gb of memory, which is a lot better than the nanopi at 4GB or the raspberry pi 3b at 1GB.
[19:57] <pavlos> elyograg: you can read on the links, I believe they are unmodified.
[20:09] <elyograg> pavlos: going to give that johang one a try.
[20:20] <elyograg> my question I think is still relevant.  Can I make a feature request for images that support more arm64 CPU/chipset types than there are on raspberry pi boards?  There are a ton of different alternatives to raspberry pi out, and many of them use different cpu and chipset types, and I would like to be able to run an official ubuntu image on them if I acquire the hardware.
[20:23] <elyograg> It would be really cool if there were one to three or four SOC images.  The first to support raspberry pi, the second to support common alternatives, third to support more exotic alternatives, etc.
[20:24] <elyograg> even better would be a single SOC image with support for all of them.
[20:28] <rbox> adn who is going to maintain and test them all?
[20:46] <xMopx> we'll have mike do it
[20:50] <shahzad> hello
[20:50] <shahzad> anybody tere
[20:51] <rbox> lol
[21:01] <gordonjcp> at nearly 10pm on a Sunday? No, no-one here