[00:03] <jbicha> vorlon: the desktop icons version already in mantic was an initial implementation (rush for feature freeze); this is after it completed code review
[00:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-default-settings (mantic-proposed/universe) [23.10.13 => 23.10.14] (ubuntustudio)
[00:05] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: ^ New upload with your recommendations and a little more cleanup. Executable bit not unconditionally set.
[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-default-settings [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.14]
[00:21] <xnox> vorlon: re:bluetooth mac, on windows and on good laptop bluetooth and wifi mac addresses look similar but distinct (i.e. off by one, off by 4, etc)
[00:21] <xnox> my guess this is to ensure that internet over bluetooth works
[00:21] <xnox> and one can share wifi connection to bluetooth connection and vice versa
[00:22] <xnox> because then one needs to send ip stack over both
[00:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debmutate (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.67 => 0.68] (no packageset) (sync)
[00:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debmutate [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.68]
[00:36] <tsimonq2> ...I ran seeded-in-ubuntu and debmutate wasn't in the list, but parsinsert didn't need any kind of acceptance. Both are in Universe. Curious.
[01:51] <vorlon> tsimonq2: that would be a race condition in the bot; the archive is frozen (there's no partial freeze at the launchpad level) and a separate bot auto-approves unseeded packages, so the irc bot not showing the unapproved + accepted is a bug there
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gst-plugins-base1.0 [sync] (mantic-proposed) [1.22.6-1]
[04:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.60.4+23.10]
[05:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-docs (mantic-proposed/main) [23.10.1 => 23.10.3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[05:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: limnoria (jammy-backports/universe) [2023.8.10-1~bpo22.04.1 => 2023.9.24-1~bpo22.04.1] (no packageset)
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: python-pcre2 (mantic-proposed/primary) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[08:26] <tumbleweed> vorlon: because it appears in the manifests of those images
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng [sync] (mantic-proposed) [46+really47.0.5-1]
[09:32] <ginggs> mitya57: I see an alacarte sync in the queue, does this need an FFe?
[09:32] <ginggs> LocutusOfBorg: ditto for libwebp
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-docs [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.2]
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-docs [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.3]
[09:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.47]
[10:08] <LocutusOfBorg> ginggs, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebp/+bug/2037527
[10:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037527 in libwebp (Ubuntu) "[Ffe] libwebp" [Undecided, New]
[10:10] <LocutusOfBorg> but I would say its really mostly bugfix release, just a little sublibrary added
[10:14] <ginggs> LocutusOfBorg: thanks :)
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks to you
[12:01] <jbicha> ginggs: alacarte is basically just translations: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/alacarte/-/compare/3.44.3...3.50.0
[12:03] <seb128> ginggs, hey, could you review update-manager in the mantic queue?
[12:08] <ginggs> jbicha: thanks
[12:09] <jbicha> please reject rust-bindgen-cli from mantic NEW, it requires the new rust-bindgen but we opted out of that transition for mantic
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted alacarte [sync] (mantic-proposed) [3.50.0-1]
[12:09] <tjaalton> jbicha: opted out for now, at least
[12:09] <tjaalton> I've got all rdeps built on a ppa
[12:09] <jbicha> tjaalton: oh?
[12:10] <tjaalton> https://launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ubuntu/test
[12:11] <tjaalton> rust-annotate-snippets was a new dependency needed by many
[12:12] <jbicha> ok, I guess I misunderstood the outcome of yesterday's discussion here
[12:16] <ginggs> seb128: the bug referred to in that update-manager upload is a year old, which I see got updated two days ago
[12:17] <ginggs> seb128: that FFe/UIFe will be needed first
[12:49] <xnox> tjaalton: note that versioned bindgen can use vendored sources, we do this for the kernel required bindgen. thus if desired we can package new bindgen as versioned with all the deps vendored in if desired.
[12:49] <xnox> (generic transition is preferred though)
[13:01] <seb128> ginggs, what do you mean that FFe/UIFe will be needed first? the bug has the UIF/FFe info
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgedit-gtksourceview [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [299.0.4-0ubuntu1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [55-4]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-shell-pomodoro [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [0.24.0-1~exp1]
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted workrave [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.10.52-1ubuntu1]
[13:07] <ginggs> seb128: I mean that bug was only turned into a FFe/UIFe two days ago, and an exception needs to be granted first
[13:08] <seb128> ginggs, right, which is what I'm pinging about there, getting someone from release team review the exception request :)
[13:08] <seb128> it's not that important for mantic itself, but it is high priority for the LTS and by SRU rules we need the fix commited to the current serie first
[13:09] <seb128> I would also be fine if the SRU team was wanting to accept the LTSes SRUs before mantic...
[13:20] <ricotz> rbasak, hello :), please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/2037274
[13:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037274 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] libreoffice 7.5.7 for lunar" [Medium, In Progress]
[13:25] <rbasak> ricotz: looks like this only entered the queue yesterday. Is there a reason it needs priority over older items in the queue, please?
[13:26] <ginggs> seb128: I know v.orlon was looking at that one earlier
[13:29] <ricotz> rbasak, there is no particular reason to prioritize it, unfortunately my impression is that if I am not asking here, there won't be much movement
[13:31] <ricotz> usually if this gets reviewed on thursdays or fridays its real release will get delayed to another week
[13:34] <rbasak> I would really like to speed up SRU processing for microreleases. But at the moment it's really slow for a bunch of reasons that will take time to sort out. For Libreoffice, I see it has no documentation under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Documentation_for_Special_Cases for example, even though it seems to be a routine thing.
[13:34] <rbasak> I also want to spend some time automating a bunch of things that I currently have to check manually for microreleases.
[13:35] <rbasak> Until these things are sorted it seems more optimal to let the SRU team members who had been reviewing libreoffice in the past to continue doing so, but they're not on shift right now. Sorry!
[13:38] <ricotz> rbasak, I see, thanks, I am hoping for tomorrow
[13:39] <ricotz> rbasak, not sure if this is on your list - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/2028082
[13:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2028082 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Lunar) "Update glib to 2.76.4" [High, In Progress]
[13:40] <rbasak> In the meantime I am spending time today on my shift investing in SRU things that should help speed things up in the future. This seems to be more on my focus than others at the moment (perhaps because I am naturally inclined to want to invest time in longer term efficiency)
[13:41] <ricotz> rbasak, yeah, of course making the process easier is good thing
[13:42] <rbasak> Yeah glib is a bit stuck too because it's an exception of an exception and needs further discussion and thought to deal with it, and I also don't see any particular reason for urgency having been mentioned.
[13:42] <rbasak> I'd like to see RAOF's opinion on the Discourse post I think. I can make a note to raise that with the SRU team generally.
[13:42] <ricotz> rbasak, I am already going through the hassle to make a test build and run the autopkgtests for it to catch unpleasant surprises
[13:43] <ricotz> (which is not fast at all for libreoffice)
[13:44] <ricotz> rbasak, there are several posts of him there
[13:44] <rbasak> ricotz: that's all good - thanks. What I'd like is for the SRU team to have reviewed and documented everything that happens with libreoffice microrelease SRUs, and automate as much checking for that as possible. Then the SRU team could sign off on the process specifically as applied to this package. The SRU reviews would then become easy because all they'd need to check for is a few points on
[13:44] <rbasak> compliance with what is already agreed, rather than having to make an independent assessment every time, researching what was done previously, etc.
[13:46] <ricotz> rbasak, I see, let me know if there is some information which I can add to the sru bug itself
[13:47] <rbasak> ricotz: I don't want to dive deep right now as I'm working on this other thing :-/
[13:47] <jbicha> rbasak: I replied to glib bug 2028082 , glib actually has an extensive test suite, been stuck in the queue for a while
[13:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2028082 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Lunar) "Update glib to 2.76.4" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028082
[13:47] <rbasak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases has the requirements. I'd like to see a wiki page explaining how the requirements are met. Then future bugs could just link to that.
[13:48] <rbasak> jbicha: I've seen it - thanks. What gets me stuck is that I want to know RAOF's opinion on that discussion. I've made a note to discuss it with him.
[13:49] <rbasak> Process-wise, I want to get to a SRU-team-wide decision that is documented, and then nobody needs to get blocked on uncertainty again.
[13:49] <jbicha> ok thanks. Frustrating time zones!
[13:49] <ricotz> rbasak, noted, thanks
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gsl (mantic-proposed/universe) [2.7.1+dfsg-5ubuntu1 => 2.7.1+dfsg-6] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu) (sync)
[13:56] <coreycb> bdmurray: hi, the openstack-dashboard version maps to horizon. it's the binary package installed by the horizon package.
[13:56] <coreycb> thank you for taking a look at that!
[14:01] <tjaalton> xnox: right, a proper migration doesn't look that complicated, but I'll let others to decide if it's still doable
[14:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: rust-annotate-snippets (mantic-proposed/primary) [0.9.1-1]
[14:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gsl (mantic-proposed/universe) [2.7.1+dfsg-5ubuntu1 => 2.7.1+dfsg-6ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: glibc (mantic-proposed/main) [2.38-1ubuntu4 => 2.38-1ubuntu5] (core, i386-whitelist)
[14:42] <schopin> ginggs: ^
[14:43] <ginggs> schopin: ack, thanks
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glibc [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.38-1ubuntu5]
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gsl [sync] (mantic-proposed) [2.7.1+dfsg-6]
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gsl [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.7.1+dfsg-6ubuntu1]
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gsl (mantic-proposed/universe) [2.7.1+dfsg-5ubuntu1 => 2.7.1+dfsg-6ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gsl [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.7.1+dfsg-6ubuntu1]
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info [source] (xenial-backports) [0.18ubuntu0.18.04.1~bpo18.04.1]
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted limnoria [source] (jammy-backports) [2023.9.24-1~bpo22.04.1]
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (mantic-proposed/main) [2.60.3+23.10.1 => 2.60.4+23.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[15:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: r-bioc-keggrest (mantic-proposed/universe) [1.40.0+dfsg-1 => 1.40.0+dfsg-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted r-bioc-keggrest [sync] (mantic-proposed) [1.40.0+dfsg-3]
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: powerpc-utils (focal-proposed/main) [1.3.4-0ubuntu2 => 1.3.4-0ubuntu2.1] (core)
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: django-mailman3 (mantic-proposed/universe) [1.3.9-1ubuntu2 => 1.3.9-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted django-mailman3 [source] (mantic-proposed) [1.3.9-1ubuntu3]
[18:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bind-dyndb-ldap (mantic-proposed/universe) [11.10-6ubuntu2 => 11.10-6ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bind-dyndb-ldap [source] (mantic-proposed) [11.10-6ubuntu3]
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: isc-kea (mantic-proposed/main) [2.2.1-1 => 2.2.1-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:41] <ahasenack> that isc-kea one fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-kea/+bug/2037462
[18:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037462 in isc-kea (Debian) "apparmor blocks kea-ctrl-agent from listening on IPv6" [Unknown, New]
[18:41] <ahasenack> but also includes new translations for the debconf template
[18:42] <ginggs> ahasenack: ack, thanks
[18:42] <ahasenack> o/
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted isc-kea [sync] (mantic-proposed) [2.2.1-3]
[18:44] <ahasenack> thanks!
[18:48] <vorlon> tumbleweed: ok, so when it reports ${flavor}-live, it means the daily-live image of $flavor, and not the seed of this name?  that's a bit confusing :/
[19:07] <vorlon> seb128: what is the expected timeline for the update-manager SRUs?  SRUs are safer than freeze exceptions and I would be inclined to prefer this being handled as an SRU for mantic as well - especially since if update-manager regresses and doesn't apply updates anymore, it can be hard to get fixes to users
[19:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: restinio (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.6.16-1 => 0.6.19-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[19:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted restinio [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.6.19-1]
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected rust-bindgen-cli [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.66.1-3]
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted klepto [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.2.4-1]
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-mate-artwork [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.0]
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [arm64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [s390x] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [amd64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [amd64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [s390x] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [armhf] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [armhf] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [arm64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.60.4+23.10]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-annotate-snippets [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.9.1-1] (no packageset)
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (mantic-proposed/main) [23.10.47 => 23.10.48] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[19:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-pcre2 [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/none) [0.3.0+ds-1] (no packageset)
[19:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.48]
[20:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pcre2 [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0+ds-1]
[20:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-annotate-snippets [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[20:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-flashback (mantic-proposed/universe) [3.49.1-1ubuntu1 => 3.50.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-flashback [source] (mantic-proposed) [3.50.0-1ubuntu1]
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: webkit2gtk (mantic-proposed/main) [2.42.0-1 => 2.42.1-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[21:33] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: ubuntustudio/dvd: mantic-dvd-amd64.iso oversized by 5789440 bytes (5705789440)
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> 5MB?
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> (ish)?
[21:37] <Eickmeyer> 5.5MiB
[21:37] <Eickmeyer> All things considered, that's not bad.
[21:40] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Let's give it a 15 MiB bump just to make it happy again. I have a MP incoming for ubiquity that's going to add a few more bytes, but nothing huge.
[21:41]  * Eickmeyer is knocking out UI bugs
[21:44] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: I don't want to deal in increments less than 100MB; I can set it to 5.8GB if you like
[21:44] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: That's fine.
[23:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rust-tungstenite (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-1 => 0.20.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rust-tungstenite [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.20.1-1]