[09:22] <clivejo> is unattended updates turned on in Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:27] <clivejo> historical I keep auto updates turned off as I have limited internet and like to choose when I update the system.  But recently (past 1-2 weeks) Discover is throwing warnings that the lock file is locked and it looks to be the auto updater 
[09:28] <clivejo> It's still turned off in system settings, so why is it locking the file and installing packages without permission!?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:29] <Eickmeyer> clivejo: unattended-upgrades is a systemd process and isn't controlled with system settings. "sudo systemctl disable unattended-upgrades.service" will stop it from running at boot. However, I do not recommend for two reasons:
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> 1) unattended-upgrades cleans old kernels from your /boot except the last two, and 2) it updates snaps for you.
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> Without that, 1) your /boot partition, if separate, can fill-up and cause big, big problems, and 2) snaps won't necessarily get updated because they can't run at the same time they're being updated.
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> I mean, you can do all of that with manual intervention, but you probably don't want that headache of system maintenance.
[18:39] <clivejo> well it used to respect System Settings > Software Update > Update Software : Manually until recently 
[18:40] <clivejo> I have managed my kernels for years and don't need a "helper" doing it for me without my permission!
[18:50] <clivejo> regarding snaps, don't use them and don't want to use them!