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| liushuyu | o/ | 14:59 |
| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 14:59 |
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| ogayot | o/ | 14:59 |
| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 14:59 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-28-sep-2023/39009 | 15:00 |
| xypron | o/ | 15:00 |
| ginggs | o/ | 15:00 |
| * juliank will have to update tomorrow because brain too slow today | 15:00 | |
| bdmurray | "dead weight" | 15:03 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 15:03 |
| dbungert | bdmurray: that's the belief, yes | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | my comment was about word choice | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | I don't think I've heard that in a while | 15:04 |
| juliank | you may also enjoy the word salad I come up with today | 15:05 |
| juliank | . | 15:09 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:10 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:10 |
| juliank | bug 2037425 | 15:10 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037425 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-server pulls in ZFS userspace" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037425 | 15:10 | |
| juliank | dbungert: | 15:11 |
| juliank | ? | 15:11 |
| dbungert | work in progress, next step is a review from server. I think we can untag mm. | 15:12 |
| juliank | ack | 15:12 |
| juliank | bug 2036999 | 15:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036999 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: Wifi password not copied to new install Edit" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036999 | 15:13 | |
| dbungert | I have untagged 425 | 15:13 |
| juliank | as did I when I wrote ack :D | 15:13 |
| dbungert | hah | 15:13 |
| juliank | bug 2036997 is related | 15:14 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036997 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "Wifi password not copied to new install since netplan transition" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036997 | 15:14 | |
| juliank | one is old installer, other new instalelr | 15:14 |
| dbungert | ubuntu-desktop-installer has a postinstall hook that handles this, so that hook should be updated | 15:15 |
| danilogondolfo | Yes, this I suppose https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/blob/main/snap/local/postinst.d/10_copy_network_config | 15:16 |
| juliank | I tagged them foundations-todo | 15:16 |
| juliank | bug 2037210 | 15:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037210 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "unable to add PPA by its sources.list line" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037210 | 15:16 | |
| juliank | this makes sense, yes | 15:17 |
| juliank | we did not implement conversion of lines to PPAs | 15:17 |
| juliank | I didn't expect people would actually pass PPA lines | 15:17 |
| juliank | We're going to have to fix that some way but not necesarily for the release | 15:18 |
| juliank | oh it's also tagged todo already | 15:19 |
| juliank | I'm just removing incoming | 15:19 |
| juliank | bug 2033440 | 15:19 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440 | 15:19 | |
| vorlon | still Not For Us | 15:19 |
| juliank | ack | 15:19 |
| juliank | bug 2036440 | 15:19 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036440 | 15:19 | |
| bdmurray | very repeatable | 15:19 |
| vorlon | and we need to fix apport? | 15:20 |
| bdrung | we should fix bugs #2015857 and the desktop team should fix the gnome-shell crash | 15:21 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015857 in apport (Ubuntu) "Repeatedly unusable truncated crash files (on log-out)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015857 | 15:21 | |
| juliank | I still don't know | 15:21 |
| vorlon | should we close on the apport task on 2036440 then? | 15:21 |
| vorlon | close out | 15:21 |
| bdmurray | ^- that | 15:21 |
| juliank | I think that sounds reasoanably | 15:21 |
| juliank | done | 15:22 |
| juliank | bug 2037015 | 15:22 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037015 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen corruption of slides during install on Raspberry Pi" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037015 | 15:22 | |
| bdmurray | From a release team or QA team perspective I don't have try ubuntu crash right away is great | 15:22 |
| bdrung | 2015857 needs to be fixed first. afterwards we might want to tweak the apport gnome-shell hook. | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | We could do something shady like blacklist gnome-shell crashes in the live environment? | 15:23 |
| juliank | I suggest discussing the details outside the meeting | 15:23 |
| juliank | I guess we tag this one todo but probably this needs someone with a pi to actually do the work | 15:25 |
| waveform | I need to double-check this with the new images with the updated mesa; I mostly filed the bug to remind myself to do that | 15:25 |
| juliank | I'll just assign it to you | 15:25 |
| waveform | sure | 15:25 |
| juliank | accidentally assigned it to me, lol | 15:26 |
| juliank | but fixed now | 15:26 |
| juliank | bug 2037202 | 15:26 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037202 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Mantic/23.10: PXE boot tries to initialize DHCP before network link is up" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037202 | 15:26 | |
| juliank | in the initramfs tools | 15:26 |
| bdrung | someone should try to reproduce (but I will be on vacation) | 15:26 |
| juliank | sad | 15:27 |
| juliank | oh but this is kernel, does kernel not have special capser initrd? | 15:27 |
| juliank | anyway tagged | 15:28 |
| juliank | bug 2036604 we are going to skip over this cycle, nothing we can do right now | 15:28 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036604 in shim (Ubuntu) "Synchronous Exception when booting VMs via qemu-efi-aarch64" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036604 | 15:28 | |
| juliank | bug 2037228 | 15:28 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037228 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox doesn't work after 23.10 upgrade" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037228 | 15:28 | |
| bdmurray | jbicha: you confirmed this bug did you recreate it? | 15:30 |
| vorlon | it doesn't look like a u-r-u issue anyway, should we just close that task invalid (for now)? | 15:31 |
| juliank | Reassign that task to snapd :D | 15:31 |
| juliank | I just do | 15:32 |
| juliank | and https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty, hooray | 15:32 |
| juliank | #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:32 |
| juliank | still has bug 1990798 | 15:32 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 | 15:32 | |
| juliank | but pro folks are on that | 15:33 |
| juliank | and https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty too | 15:33 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:33 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:33 |
| juliank | vorlon: only light gray today :D | 15:33 |
| vorlon | none of our own packages are "late", but we also don't have much time left before release | 15:33 |
| vorlon | a lot of systemd autopkgtest failures on arm64 | 15:34 |
| vorlon | enr0n: do you know what this is about? blocking a lot of kernels apparently, that it didn't before | 15:34 |
| juliank | oh I should unblock grub2 I suppose | 15:34 |
| vorlon | OTOH linux-meta-azure on arm64 is sort of a non-thing | 15:34 |
| enr0n | vorlon: looking | 15:34 |
| vorlon | thanks | 15:34 |
| vorlon | LP: #2030482 seems to still be blocked on MIR process | 15:35 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030482 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] s390-tools Rust dependencies (vendored)" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2030482 | 15:35 | |
| juliank | oof | 15:35 |
| vorlon | and then there's glibc | 15:36 |
| vorlon | schopin is out I think? is someone else driving this? | 15:36 |
| ginggs | i'll retry things | 15:36 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:37 |
| enr0n | vorlon: I have not seen that error before so I will need to look closer | 15:37 |
| ginggs | (hopefully all that's needed) | 15:37 |
| vorlon | then that's it for proposed-migration | 15:37 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:37 |
| juliank | ginggs: | 15:37 |
| ginggs | LP: #2031879 | 15:38 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031879 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Fail to remove a device via 'mdadm -r' on ubuntu server 22.04.3" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031879 | 15:38 | |
| jbicha | bdmurray: yes, I experienced that Firefox bug a week ago | 15:38 |
| ginggs | in the email to foundations-crew, it was asked "should I tell them to just not use -r?" | 15:38 |
| ginggs | and apparently the patch ust removes the -r option from the help output so that users only see --remove as an option | 15:39 |
| juliank | so they ask for the fix in the commit to be SRUed really I think? | 15:39 |
| ginggs | which i think is pretty much the same thing | 15:39 |
| bdrung | i'll be on vacation starting from end of today | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | jbicha: Could you provide more details in the bug? Like answering comment #2. | 15:40 |
| juliank | ginggs: are there two meanings of -r? | 15:42 |
| ginggs | you can --manage -r | 15:42 |
| dbungert | mdadm manpage still mentions -r for remove, we should hit that also. | 15:42 |
| ginggs | and --monitor -t | 15:43 |
| ginggs | err | 15:43 |
| ginggs | -- monitor -r | 15:43 |
| ginggs | which are different | 15:43 |
| juliank | OK I added tasks for jammy and lunar | 15:44 |
| juliank | I guess lunar can also be Won't fix but meh | 15:44 |
| juliank | I don't think it warrants tagging particularly | 15:44 |
| juliank | ginggs: Does that sound right? | 15:44 |
| ginggs | my question was really, is this worth fixing? | 15:45 |
| ginggs | --remove works | 15:45 |
| juliank | I probably should take some time off next week, tuesday is a holiday, and I need to go visit the cat and play | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | What are the consequences of using `-r`? | 15:45 |
| ginggs | and per the email, the patch just removes -r from the help | 15:45 |
| juliank | it changes the options | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | Is there data loss involved? | 15:46 |
| juliank | the parsing of them in getopt | 15:46 |
| ginggs | bdmurray: you get no output -- nothing happens | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | the pfft | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | s/the/then/ | 15:46 |
| juliank | I suggest taking this back to the mailing thread | 15:46 |
| juliank | If there's no other business in 20s I'll end the meeting | 15:47 |
| juliank | OK I guess that's it then? | 15:47 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:47:45 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-28-14.59.moin.txt | 15:47 |
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