=== Guest5602 is now known as ogra === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [14:58] \o [14:59] o/ [14:59] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [14:59] Meeting started at 14:59:32 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:59] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:59] o/ [14:59] #topic Lightning rounds [15:00] #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-28-sep-2023/39009 [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] * juliank will have to update tomorrow because brain too slow today [15:03] "dead weight" [15:03] o/ [15:04] bdmurray: that's the belief, yes [15:04] my comment was about word choice [15:04] I don't think I've heard that in a while [15:05] you may also enjoy the word salad I come up with today [15:09] . [15:10] #topic Release incoming bugs [15:10] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:10] bug 2037425 [15:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037425 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-server pulls in ZFS userspace" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037425 [15:11] dbungert: [15:11] ? [15:12] work in progress, next step is a review from server. I think we can untag mm. [15:12] ack [15:13] bug 2036999 [15:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036999 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: Wifi password not copied to new install Edit" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036999 [15:13] I have untagged 425 [15:13] as did I when I wrote ack :D [15:13] hah [15:14] bug 2036997 is related [15:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036997 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "Wifi password not copied to new install since netplan transition" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036997 [15:14] one is old installer, other new instalelr [15:15] ubuntu-desktop-installer has a postinstall hook that handles this, so that hook should be updated [15:16] Yes, this I suppose https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/blob/main/snap/local/postinst.d/10_copy_network_config [15:16] I tagged them foundations-todo [15:16] bug 2037210 [15:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037210 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "unable to add PPA by its sources.list line" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037210 [15:17] this makes sense, yes [15:17] we did not implement conversion of lines to PPAs [15:17] I didn't expect people would actually pass PPA lines [15:18] We're going to have to fix that some way but not necesarily for the release [15:19] oh it's also tagged todo already [15:19] I'm just removing incoming [15:19] bug 2033440 [15:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440 [15:19] still Not For Us [15:19] ack [15:19] bug 2036440 [15:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036440 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Choosing 'Try Ubuntu' on daily-legacy image produced a crash" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036440 [15:19] very repeatable [15:20] and we need to fix apport? [15:21] we should fix bugs #2015857 and the desktop team should fix the gnome-shell crash [15:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015857 in apport (Ubuntu) "Repeatedly unusable truncated crash files (on log-out)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015857 [15:21] I still don't know [15:21] should we close on the apport task on 2036440 then? [15:21] close out [15:21] ^- that [15:21] I think that sounds reasoanably [15:22] done [15:22] bug 2037015 [15:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037015 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen corruption of slides during install on Raspberry Pi" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037015 [15:22] From a release team or QA team perspective I don't have try ubuntu crash right away is great [15:22] 2015857 needs to be fixed first. afterwards we might want to tweak the apport gnome-shell hook. [15:23] We could do something shady like blacklist gnome-shell crashes in the live environment? [15:23] I suggest discussing the details outside the meeting [15:25] I guess we tag this one todo but probably this needs someone with a pi to actually do the work [15:25] I need to double-check this with the new images with the updated mesa; I mostly filed the bug to remind myself to do that [15:25] I'll just assign it to you [15:25] sure [15:26] accidentally assigned it to me, lol [15:26] but fixed now [15:26] bug 2037202 [15:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037202 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Mantic/23.10: PXE boot tries to initialize DHCP before network link is up" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037202 [15:26] in the initramfs tools [15:26] someone should try to reproduce (but I will be on vacation) [15:27] sad [15:27] oh but this is kernel, does kernel not have special capser initrd? [15:28] anyway tagged [15:28] bug 2036604 we are going to skip over this cycle, nothing we can do right now [15:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2036604 in shim (Ubuntu) "Synchronous Exception when booting VMs via qemu-efi-aarch64" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036604 [15:28] bug 2037228 [15:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037228 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox doesn't work after 23.10 upgrade" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037228 [15:30] jbicha: you confirmed this bug did you recreate it? [15:31] it doesn't look like a u-r-u issue anyway, should we just close that task invalid (for now)? [15:31] Reassign that task to snapd :D [15:32] I just do [15:32] and https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty, hooray [15:32] #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:32] still has bug 1990798 [15:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 [15:33] but pro folks are on that [15:33] and https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty too [15:33] #topic Team proposed-migration report [15:33] #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:33] vorlon: only light gray today :D [15:33] none of our own packages are "late", but we also don't have much time left before release [15:34] a lot of systemd autopkgtest failures on arm64 [15:34] enr0n: do you know what this is about? blocking a lot of kernels apparently, that it didn't before [15:34] oh I should unblock grub2 I suppose [15:34] OTOH linux-meta-azure on arm64 is sort of a non-thing [15:34] vorlon: looking [15:34] thanks [15:35] LP: #2030482 seems to still be blocked on MIR process [15:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030482 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] s390-tools Rust dependencies (vendored)" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2030482 [15:35] oof [15:36] and then there's glibc [15:36] schopin is out I think? is someone else driving this? [15:36] i'll retry things [15:37] ok [15:37] vorlon: I have not seen that error before so I will need to look closer [15:37] (hopefully all that's needed) [15:37] then that's it for proposed-migration [15:37] #topic AOB [15:37] ginggs: [15:38] LP: #2031879 [15:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031879 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Fail to remove a device via 'mdadm -r' on ubuntu server 22.04.3" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031879 [15:38] bdmurray: yes, I experienced that Firefox bug a week ago [15:38] in the email to foundations-crew, it was asked "should I tell them to just not use -r?" [15:39] and apparently the patch ust removes the -r option from the help output so that users only see --remove as an option [15:39] so they ask for the fix in the commit to be SRUed really I think? [15:39] which i think is pretty much the same thing [15:39] i'll be on vacation starting from end of today [15:40] jbicha: Could you provide more details in the bug? Like answering comment #2. [15:42] ginggs: are there two meanings of -r? [15:42] you can --manage -r [15:42] mdadm manpage still mentions -r for remove, we should hit that also. [15:43] and --monitor -t [15:43] err [15:43] -- monitor -r [15:43] which are different [15:44] OK I added tasks for jammy and lunar [15:44] I guess lunar can also be Won't fix but meh [15:44] I don't think it warrants tagging particularly [15:44] ginggs: Does that sound right? [15:45] my question was really, is this worth fixing? [15:45] --remove works [15:45] I probably should take some time off next week, tuesday is a holiday, and I need to go visit the cat and play [15:45] What are the consequences of using `-r`? [15:45] and per the email, the patch just removes -r from the help [15:46] it changes the options [15:46] Is there data loss involved? [15:46] the parsing of them in getopt [15:46] bdmurray: you get no output -- nothing happens [15:46] the pfft [15:46] s/the/then/ [15:46] I suggest taking this back to the mailing thread [15:47] If there's no other business in 20s I'll end the meeting [15:47] OK I guess that's it then? [15:47] #endmeeting [15:47] Meeting ended at 15:47:45 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-28-14.59.moin.txt