| xu-irc56w | Hi all... I noticed while using the xfce version of LM that AppImages display various icons for the apps... but Xubuntu 22.04 uses a grey gear. Is there a chance this might change to different icons for a future version of Xubuntu? | 01:12 |
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| xu-help18w | New to Xubuntu have got it up and running, configured the way I like it for now. Before I go to far want to learn how to backup/clone what I have done. | 13:49 |
| AMPed | I'm trying to update sqlite3 to the latest version. `sudo apt upgrade sqlite3` tells me I'm already on the "latest" version, 3.31.1-4ubuntu0.5, but I know 3.43 is out. How do I get that? | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | !latest | AMPed | 18:08 |
| ubottu | AMPed: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | most of the time you also don't actually *need* the very latest version of something. | 18:09 |
| tomreyn | so my question would be: why do you *need* sqlite version 3.43 | 18:10 |
| AMPed | tomreyn: I'm trying something that requires, at least, 3.35. I can go that low, but I have the same problem. | 18:11 |
| tomreyn | are you building software? | 18:11 |
| tomreyn | maybe you want to build slqite3 yourself from source | 18:12 |
| AMPed | I'm trying to run privateGPT, which uses Chroma | 18:13 |
| AMPed | and get the error: "RuntimeError: Your system has an unsupported version of sqlite3. Chroma requires sqlite3 >= 3.35.0." | 18:13 |
| tomreyn | actually, if Xubuntu provides you with 3.31.1-4ubuntu0.5 that means you're on Xubuntu 20.04, which should be EOL. | 18:13 |
| tomreyn | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?exact=1&keywords=sqlite3 | 18:14 |
| AMPed | You are, in fact, correct. Time to upgrade the system. (Anxiety increases.) | 18:15 |
| tomreyn | no need for anxiety if you have backups | 18:15 |
| AMPed | tomreyn: you *say* that, but I've hosed installs and upgrades to the point where, even though I have data backed up, I can't *do* anything with it until I un-fsck my host. But that's, as they say, a "me" problem. | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | hmm, sorry to hear that. i can't think of how you'd run into a situation where you could not reinstall and restore backups | 18:18 |
| tomreyn | i mean, unless the backups were bad or incomplete | 18:19 |
| AMPed | ADHD. I used to scoff at the diagnosis. I can mess up very simple things, sometimes. But thanks for the info, I will make a backup and possibly have a weekend project ahead of me. | 18:19 |
| tomreyn | oh i see, sorry, i really failed to think of such | 18:20 |
| AMPed | Like I say, a "me" problem. | 18:21 |
| AMPed | But one question I do have, come to think of it: is there an automatic way to let the system know what tools and packages you have installed since the last system upgrade, so I don't have to install PostgreSQL or Emacs afterward? | 18:22 |
| AMPed | Every time I upgrade, for days or weeks afterward, I run into that situation. I only backup $HOME, but perhaps I should backup something else as well? | 18:23 |
| xangua | AMPed: a separate /home partition could help | 18:31 |
| tomreyn | I was going to point them to this command which tries to guess what you manually installed. But they left, got called away. | 18:37 |
| Eickmeyer | tomreyn: apt-mark showmanual | 19:32 |
| tomreyn | yes, that's close, but not perfect | 19:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Right, because it'll also show stuff they accidentally "apt install"-ed which sets it to manual. | 19:35 |
| tomreyn | https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/how-to-list-manually-installed-packages#answers | 19:38 |
| tomreyn | ...as well as packages initially installed (and marked as manual) by the installer | 19:39 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure whether /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz still exists on ubuntu flavors, though | 19:40 |
| Eickmeyer | It does. | 19:41 |
| Eickmeyer | tomreyn: All flavors are Ubuntu. They're not separate distros. | 19:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Merely a different out of box experience. | 19:42 |
| tomreyn | Eickmeyer: i'm aware of this. some use different installers, though, right? and i don't know if some of these installers create this file and others don't. | 19:43 |
| Eickmeyer | The only one that's different is Calamares in Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio ( 22.04-23.04), but that doesn't matter because initial-status.gz is there regardless. | 19:44 |
| tomreyn | how about server? | 19:44 |
| * Eickmeyer checks | 19:44 | |
| tomreyn | and how about the new ubuntu desktop installer ;) | 19:44 |
| tomreyn | i don't mean to make a task list for you ;) | 19:44 |
| Eickmeyer | New desktop installer is merely subiquity which is same as server. | 19:45 |
| tomreyn | i see, i was thinking it is like a wrapper around suibiquity | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | initial-status.gz does not appear to be there for server, so presumably not for anything installed using subiquity. | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | tomreyn: Yes, it's a wrapper. | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | In other words, one can kiss initial-status.gz goodbye in the future. | 19:46 |
| tomreyn | so for curent ubuntu desktop and server people should just run "apt-mark showmanual" | 19:46 |
| Eickmeyer | That's probably most sane, yes. | 19:46 |
| tomreyn | (and then strike out what they did not manually install) | 19:47 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. They should probably look at what they really want. Usually what they want are packages. | 19:47 |
| Eickmeyer | Another good one to look at is "snap list" because... who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:47 |
| tomreyn | oh, right, probably. | 19:48 |
| marcoWolf72 | Buonasera. Stavo solo testando la chat. | 21:12 |
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