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[21:55]  * tsimonq2 tries a fix for bug 2000787
[21:55] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2000787 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live system cannot leave 'Lock Screen' when selected from menu" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2000787
[22:06] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: If you figure it out, let me know. Ubuntu Studio (and presumably Kubuntu) is affected by a similar issue with the newest Plasma.
[22:10] <wxl> crazy idea: what if we used a non-null password, say same as the user ID?
[22:10] <Eickmeyer> wxl: That's the problem: it is non-null.
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: If you think you have an idea, I'll hold off. I'll throw you some interesting-looking code.
[22:10] <wxl> huh, i thought it was blank?
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Yeah, it *is* blank. Eickmeyer has it backwards ;)
[22:10] <Eickmeyer> It's null-hashed.
[22:11]  * tsimonq2 thinks?
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> xscreensaver (and Plasma) sees it as a hashed password of "".
[22:11] <wxl> right. so that's what i'm saying. we use an actual password.
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> I think that would require modifying casper?
[22:12] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: That stupidly-long Telegram message I just sent you has relevant code that should already fix this for KDE, but could very well be ancient.
[22:12] <tsimonq2> I already have a local fix for the screensaver issue, I'm less interested in changing password behavior to be non-standard without consulting with Foundations first (see: advice and consent)
[22:13] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that obviously doesn't work anymore. Probably KDE 4 related, and definitely doesn't work.
[22:13] <wxl> "I noticed that the live Lunar Ubuntu Desktop (standard Ubuntu) arrives at a page that prompts to enter user name and password, in other words, there is not longer a standard user with a blank password."
[22:13] <wxl> ^ sounds like password behavior has already changed?
[22:14] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: If you give me some code before I go for beer in an hour, I'll include it in my upload :P
[22:14] <tsimonq2> Re: password behavior itself, no idea.
[22:15] <tsimonq2> I am inclined to agree that we should address the root cause, not the symptom... that being said the fix I have is pretty easy. Two rm lines, removing the xscreensaver autostart and the Lock Screen menu entry from the live session.
[22:16] <tsimonq2> So, the only issue I'm really seeing with that solution is Suspend shows a somewhat interesting error about, well, having no lock screen. :P
[22:16] <tsimonq2> In a perfect world filled with unicorns and rainbows, we'd suppress that message too.
[22:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: As always, you play a pretty good Devil's Advocate, so let me hear it XD
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: There's no way I can do that, sadly. The only thing I can think of is to change the defaults in ubuntustudio-live-settings to inject a default to disable the lock screen, but I think I'm done for the week.
[22:20] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'll have a beer for you ;)
[22:30] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> you still owe me a case :P (re @tsimonq2: I'll have a beer for you ;))
[22:30] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> does a keg work? :P (re @teward001: you still owe me a case :P)
[22:31] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Imagine bringing a keg on the airplane to Riga.
[22:31] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> I wouldn't bring it on the plane, but customs would sure look at me weird. :P
[22:31] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> "What's that?" "Imported beer." 👀
[22:34] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> "Imported from where?!?" "From my backyard 😎"
[22:34] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> hah
[22:39] <tsimonq2> @arraybolt3: Question for you... where did you keep that prototype of the new Lubuntu.me?
[22:40] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> 😬
[22:40] <tsimonq2> @arraybolt3: I know you can't see it anymore but we've been swearing at WP for about the past week ;)
[22:40] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> I don't think I still have it...
[22:40] <tsimonq2> No worries, if you could try to find it I'd be grateful, if you only have the mockups or anything, that'd be cool too
[22:40] <tsimonq2> I know, I asked a little late, that's my bad :)
[22:41] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> I remember it was just a Nikola site with Cosmo theme from https://bootswatch.com/ installed, then I used HTML for the pages and BootStrap4 to position elements.
[22:43] <tsimonq2> Sweet. Thanks! (And a re-creation would be totally amazing too ;) ;) )
[23:09] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> @tsimonq2 I've got code for you which I'll be pushing to casper as a MR. Identical to Kubuntu's code except s/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntustudio (and tested) but in the changelog, should I be piggybacking on your bug 2000787?
[23:09] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2000787 in casper (Ubuntu) "Live system cannot leave 'Lock Screen' when selected from menu" [Medium, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2000787
[23:12] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Must be beer o'clock for Simon.
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Dear @tsimonq2 ,
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> 
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/casper/+git/casper-1/+merge/452485
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> 
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Sincerely,
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Me
[23:25] <Eickmeyer> Oof, unintentional multi-line paste. >.<
[23:25] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i sent Simon into the salt mines he'll be back in 5 days :P
[23:26] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Sounds good, he probably needs the workout. (re @teward001: i sent Simon into the salt mines he'll be back in 5 days :P)
[23:26] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> hah
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Path haz no dash? (re @Eickmeyer: Dear @tsimonq2 ,
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> 
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/casper/+git/casper-1/+merge/452485
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> 
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Sincerely,
[23:53] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Me)
[23:54] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Also for flavor in ubuntustudio kubuntu
[23:54] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> hahahahaha (re @Eickmeyer: Sounds good, he probably needs the workout.)
[23:54] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> do you even lift bro?
[23:56] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Correct, path has no dash. It's actually s/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntustudio. ubuntustudio all one word, for legacy reasons. One of my predecessors thought it should be one word. (re @tsimonq2: Path haz no dash?)
[23:57] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> 10-4
[23:58] <lubot> [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Do you own a 70-lb husky? Those things will pull you. How do you fix that? You pull back. Do I lift? I don't need to lift, I own a husky. (re @tsimonq2: do you even lift bro?)
[23:59] <lubot> [telegram] <tsimonq2> Nah, but I have a 100 lb Great Dane 😎 (re @Eickmeyer: Do you own a 70-lb husky? Those things will pull you. How do you fix that? You pull back. Do I lift? I don't need to lift, I own a husky.)