[00:14] <topcat001> Be advised that some of the HP laptops do not have the option in the BIOS. At work we returned a few for this reason.
[00:16] <topcat001> (Our IT actually called HP support and was told this, after we failed to find an option in the setup)
[00:18] <xenixy> topcat001 is this directed towards me? The box in questions is a desktop workstation. Not that that means it _does_ have the relevant options.
[00:19] <topcat001> xenixy: yes sorry I assumed laptop because that was my experience. Not sure about desktops but it does not bode well. I hope there is a way.
[00:20] <topcat001> However I'd imagine it is more likely to be possible on a desktop!
[00:27] <topcat001> xenixy: one often cited workaround (which did not work for me byt ymmv) is to set a supervisor password in the bios, which is supposed to unlock some "advanced" options.
[00:30] <xenixy> topcat001 Hmmm... let me try that.
[00:36] <xenixy> topcat001 Yeah, I didn't notice any additional options.
[00:53] <xenixy> leftyfb By changing the (e)SATA controller settings to "RAID," I did see BIOS options related to RAID and Intel RST, but this didn't help and doesn't seem to be related to the PCI-E SSD that came with this PC.
[02:27] <LnxGnome> why won't netplan on 22.04/jammy do what I tell it to?  I'm using NetworkManager instead of systemd-networkd (because InfiniBand), but when I run netplan apply, it keeps disablling NetworkManager and trying to do a restart with networkctl/systemd-networkd.  I do have the renderer set to NetworkManager in all the /etc/netplan files.  Funny thing is, this was working two days ago.  Just added a vlan & Flop!
[02:32] <Bashing-om> LnxGnome: >> If you tell Netplan to use NetworkManager, all interface configuration control is handed off to the GUI interface on the desktop.
[02:39] <LnxGnome> Well, not exactly.  netplan creates configs for NetworkManger in /run/NetworkManager/system-connection and NM uses those to config itself.  This is a server, not a desktop, so there's no GUI. I ended up using NetworkManager because Infiniband support in networkd is broken.  Maybe a better question is... does it matter if systemd-networkd.service is running in tandem with NetworkManager.tandem?
[02:39] <LnxGnome> er NetworkManager.service
[03:42] <LnxGnome> Another netplan question, I have dhcp4: false and dhcp6: false set (with renderer: NetworkManager), how do I prevent an interface from getting a 169.254.x.x address?
[03:45] <LnxGnome> I end up with a method=link-local in the NM config, but I just want method=none
[04:02] <rbox> LnxGnome: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1437553/blocking-automatic-setting-of-apipa-ip-on-the-network-interface
[04:07] <LnxGnome> rbox: thanks.  I was just trying that, but it's not working.
[04:08] <LnxGnome> The netplan doc says it should work ... https://netplan.readthedocs.io/en/latest/netplan-yaml/
[04:10] <LnxGnome> I'm guessing it's a bug in the netplan backend for NM :(
[04:16] <marence> Hi, what software on xubuntu 22.04 could i use to add notes in pdf documents and mark text in different color?
[04:17] <marence> I used foxit reader on win7
[04:18] <rbox> okular is the kde pdf viewer
[04:18] <matsaman> marence: xournal maybe?
[04:21] <marence> Thanks guys, i will try to install both of them in synaptic now. Thanks again
[04:22] <matsaman> marence:
[04:22] <matsaman> marence: https://alternativeto.net/software/foxit-reader/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[07:00] <xxy> how to display living internet speed on top corner , i knew netspeed, but ubuntu repository haven't this application , my desktop is gnome
[07:17] <kotgc> Hello, installing bootable USB ubuntu to USB2 won't progress when I select the USB2 https://i.stack.imgur.com/vUYMw.png
[07:25] <Habbie> kotgc, shouldn't you select /dev/sde in the list at the top?
[07:30] <kotgc> Habbie, I tried that as per this 2nd of 2 images https://i.stack.imgur.com/khBEG.png
[07:42] <Habbie> kotgc, ah, perhaps you need to make partitions?
[07:44] <kotgc> Habbie, possibly, this is its format right now https://i.imgur.com/006Cg1h.png
[07:46] <Siamaster30> Hi, I'm having very low resolution on my monitor after waking up today.
[07:47] <Siamaster30> I can't change it in settings. I have tried installing open source drivers, restart, install proprietry and restart again
[07:47] <Siamaster30> I get xrandr --listmonitors
[07:47] <Siamaster30> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[08:05] <webchat27> Hi all! I have a strange issue and I can't seem to get where I go wrong..
[08:05] <webchat27> I have one interface in my ubuntu and it is configured with an static ip
[08:06] <webchat27> but on reboot I get the wait for network...   and after it is booted I see my static address and a dhcp adres on my interface (169.254.x.x address)
[08:06] <webchat27> what can i do to fix this.. I do not want to use dhcp
[08:08] <toddc> webchat27: what version of ubuntu and server or desktop   and IPV4 or ipv6 will help a lot for everyone to understand a bit more detail
[08:08] <webchat27> ofcourse :) sory  using ubuntu server 22.04
[08:08] <webchat27> using only ipv4
[08:09] <webchat27> snippet:
[08:09] <webchat27> network:
[08:09] <webchat27>   ethernets:
[08:09] <webchat27>     ens160:
[08:09] <webchat27>       link-local: [ ipv4 ]
[08:09] <webchat27>       dhcp4: no
[08:09] <kotgc> I reformatted USB2 from FAT to Ext4, but same issue.
[08:12] <ravage> !paste | webchat27
[08:12] <toddc> webchat27:  look over https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration  for samples and details
[08:12] <webchat27> https://dpaste.com/BE8TKRQVW
[08:13] <stefan__> In Gnome appearences i only see 'default' and 'dark'. I am looking for 'light', 'default', 'dark'. switch theme based on day/night?
[08:15] <webchat27> thanks for showing me the document but as far as I can see I have a correct yaml
[08:16] <webchat27> I see no reason why my interface is requesting a dhcp address
[08:16] <kotgc> Is there an Ubuntu download for Intel, the download seems to be for amd?
[08:17] <kotgc> ubuntu-22.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:17] <toddc> kotgc: same same 64 bit intel or amd
[08:17] <kotgc> My machine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.70GHz
[08:17] <ravage> kotgc: use a bigger USB drive. The iso is fine
[08:18] <kotgc> ravage, Ubuntu minimum requirements isn't clear on the size? https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/system-requirements
[08:18] <ravage> You do not have Ubuntu Core
[08:19] <kotgc> ravage, ? these are my search results for minimum ubuntu requirements? https://presearch.com/search?q=ubuntu+minimum+requirements&tries=1
[08:20] <ravage> Get at least a 32gb drive
[08:20] <ravage> More is better if you want to actually use it as a desktop system
[08:21] <kotgc> ravage, ok. It's just a middle step to download virt-manager, whilst this machine has Internet. I will then clone the USB to this machine's disk.
[08:22] <kotgc> ravage, would this be the minimum requirements? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[08:23] <stefan_> anyone?
[08:25] <ravage> stefan_:  that is not a feature. You may find some extension that switches it for you
[08:27] <toddc> webchat27: wait for someone that has used netplan more than I    only had to do it once and I uses a lot of containers so those are bit diiferent   might try a ip a see what it shows
[08:28] <ravage> There is also #ubuntu-server
[08:28] <stefan_> ravage: Why does is work on this picture ? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-22-04-lts-dark-style-changes/27206
[08:31] <ravage> I don't see any time based settings there?
[08:32] <stefan_> ravage: i thought that 'default' would be time based. But you say not?
[08:32] <ravage> It's not
[08:33] <awilkins> Daft question, I'm on 20.04 and the update centre just offered me GNOME 42 - presumably as a snap - when the current version via apt is 36
[08:33] <awilkins> This feels bad
[08:33] <stefan_> ravage: do you maybe advice this? Best way is through g.settings crontab?
[08:33] <awilkins> It doesn't seem an appropriate upgrade path for an LTS versionb
[08:33] <ravage> stefan_: no clue. sorry
[08:34] <ravage> awilkins: the snap core is only used for snaps and not for any normal applications on your system
[08:34] <awilkins> Ah, so presumably it will upgrade silently eventually and affect nothing
[08:35] <ravage> correct
[08:36] <webchat27> well I somehow got a little bit further..
[08:37] <webchat27> I got it booting up fairly quick now but I was under the impression that adding "optional: true" to the interface would skip the wait for network.....  But in my case not. when adding this option I get the wait for network.. (2min +)
[08:38] <toddc> awilkins: 22.04 desktop I have 42 so should be ok but I do not have a 20.04 to test it on
[08:43] <Your_Dog> anyone here has experience with nvidia prime-select? got an issue related to my intel igpu where its the setting on-demand is not being respected
[08:43] <Your_Dog> was working yesterday but stopped working now, kinda tempted to just nuke this ubuntu and just install something else lmao
[09:17] <kotgc> Ubuntu bootable USB not intsalling to SSD with 120GB? https://i.imgur.com/S6pT1PX.png
[09:18] <ravage> kotgc: this looks again like the manual partitioning option?
[09:18] <ravage> if you dont know how to partitiom a drive use the guided option
[09:20] <kotgc> ravage, Ubuntu Disks app formats by default. The USB had the same issue with FAT or Ext4, but the 16GB size was probably an issue. Here's the default format fo the SSD https://i.imgur.com/1bs3GHo.png
[09:21] <forccon_> Hello. How can I list ols snaps revisions? I would like to downgrade a package.
[09:21] <kotgc> ravage, there's no guided option? I have to select the target rather than the default disk to not overwrite this working machine.
[09:21] <ravage> kotgc: again. choose guided on full drive and it will probably just work
[09:23] <kotgc> ravage, so at Type of installation, I select Manual partitioning? https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#6-type-of-installation
[09:25] <toddc> kotgc: since you many drives ubuntu will see windows or other  you could also unplug the extra drives and install to verify it is working then add drives aand manually configue when you more comfortable with manual
[09:26] <kotgc> Just need to install VMM on Ubuntu, which will be offline if I overwrite this disk. Therefore can I install alongside on a spare SSD?
[09:27] <toddc> https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-ubuntu-2204-step-by-step/
[09:37] <toddc> virtual networks are configured on the host os then virtual machines connect to the virtual networks and can be located on any drive   if you want a simple point and click easy to use look at virtualbox I used it to lean when I started
[11:52] <zzarr> Hello! I accidentally installed an ubuntu server 22.0.1 virtual machine with wrong disk size, I have increased the image size, but how do I grow the LV?
[11:53] <Habbie> zzarr, can you pastebin 'lsblk', 'lvs', 'vgs' and 'pvs' for us?
[11:57] <zzarr> https://pastebin.com/tvmg6xXP
[11:58] <Habbie> 1. resize sda3 (parted is nice)  2. grow the PV (pvresize)  3. grow the LV (lvresize)
[11:58] <zzarr> thanks, I'll do that
[11:58] <Habbie> 4. grow the filesystem (unless you passed lvresize the right flag to also do that)
[12:00] <zzarr> I have not passed lvresize
[12:03] <zzarr> do I need to confirm changes or should I just exit?
[12:06] <kotgc> toddc, I'm looking for an option in the installer, so I can select Disk2 as the installation target.
[12:08] <kotgc> toddc, 6. Type of installation, offers alongside Windows (I have no Windows, but this Ubuntu OS), however I need Disk2 installed for further purposes. https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#6-type-of-installation
[12:08] <kotgc> The installer appears as though I will need to use the Manual partitioning, but I don't know how to use Manual partitioning to target Disk2?
[12:19] <zzarr> Habbie, thanks! it worked!
[12:20] <Habbie> zzarr, yay!
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:43] <jwash> is it possible to change /etc/hosts when a person logs in? I want to block youtube for my son, but allow it for my wife when they log in.
[16:01] <vlm> jwash i think its possible atleast to run a command upon login to desktop by putting commands in a file in /etc/xdg/autostart/name.desktop though seems abit klunky as probably need to swap hosts file with mv command or so for all users. Maybe its possible to make a policy or something within the browser rather? Probably someone other has better info so might wait around.
[16:18] <jwash> vlm: could I put one copy for my wife in her user directory and son in his, then have it do a ln to the file/
[16:18] <jwash> maybe in an external directory that I own the file?
[16:23] <vlm> jwash thats also possible and probably better. Im not very good with this things ill admit though with the method i mentioned it should run the command upon desktop login atleast so if you figure out the rest that might work out. sorry im not more of help (,")
[16:23] <toddc> jwash: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DansGuardian it can be run as a user to filter
[17:43] <Rocky25> im here to cause trouble - dont make me do it.
[17:46] <chilversc> how does ssh decide whether to allocate a shell or not? I thought using something like; ssh foo -- 'echo $SHELL; ps' would fail because it isn't a single command, but instead ssh magically executes that using bash
[17:47] <chilversc> but if I just have; ssh foo -- 'ps' there's no bash shell
[18:01] <leftyfb> chilversc: $SHELL is defined by your user profile
[18:04] <chilversc> seems the logic is handled by "bash -c", so ssh does invoke the shell, and the shell seems to be exec'ing ps when its a single command
[18:09] <rfm> chilversc, yeah, try   bash -c 'pstree -s $$;pstree -s $$'   it looks like bash just exec's the last command in a sequence, not fork/exec.  Sort of the equivalent of tail-recursion elimination.
[18:19] <chilversc> rfm: yup, somewhere in the chain leads to execute_disk_command with CMD_NO_FORK it would appear https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/bash.git/tree/execute_cmd.c#n5561
[18:30] <chonkin> I have a 20.04LTS  desktop here and it is acting extremely laggy and stuttery.  The lagging and stuttering are so bad that the computer is unusable.   What are some hardware diagnostics tests I can perform to diagnose this problem??  ,  starting with the  NIC and  graphics card?
[18:37] <chonkin> during these terrible lag sessions, i have performed a clever  command line  "ps -eo etc"   that sorts all processes by their CPU utilization. This has shown nothing unusual.  I suspect this is a hardware problem and likely an NIC issue
[19:00] <Rocky25> im going to leave before i start trouble.
[19:29] <bn_work> hi, how does one get apt(-get) to install any necessary dependencies when upgrading a package?  specifically openjdk-8-jdk package from `-updates` repository to a newer one from `-infra-security` repository?
[19:31] <bn_work> keep getting the following when I try to install that specific version.  I assume I can add it to the command too but is there no way to have it automatically pull in the dependencies and propose/install them?:   https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XNJC4uCW/sudo%20apt%20install%20openjdk-8-jdk%3D8u382-ga-1~16.04.1.log
[20:41] <bn_work> Does Ubuntu-Pro only work with the stock kernel?  I am running Ubuntu on a cloud provider Linode and I am unable to active `esm-infra`:   https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NLX2AeQd/sudo%20pro%20enable%20esm-infra_sudo%20pro%20status.log
[20:42] <ravage> it does not provide their custom kernel and maybe even packages at all
[20:43] <ravage> (neither does the Ubuntu community support it)
[20:44] <bn_work> ravage: "it"?
[20:44] <ravage> custom kernels and packages archives
[20:45] <bn_work> I'm assuming they probably have a custom kernel to allow running on datacenter-class hardware?  but in my case all I'm trying to do is update java to something more recent
[20:45] <leftyfb> bn_work: nothing about that system is stock or supported here
[20:46] <bn_work> leftyfb:  besides the Linode kernel, the only other thing I see is the addition of some additional repositories
[20:47] <ravage> 16.04 is EOL and only supported by Ubuntu Pro, a commercial offer by Canonical with a free components that is not supported by the community
[20:47] <leftyfb> bn_work: the system isn't pulling packages from an official mirror and is running Ubuntu 16.04 which went EOL 2 years ago
[20:48] <leftyfb> bn_work: good luck
[20:48] <bn_work> leftyfb:  right, that's why I'm trying to enable UbuntuPro
[20:49] <leftyfb> bn_work: contact Canonical
[22:51] <cosmicwonder> hey how do i enable finnish keyboard?
[22:58] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Using languages settings.
[23:00] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Sorry - keyboard settings if you just want to use finnish kb layout.
[23:00] <cosmicwonder> thanks
[23:01] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Tell me if you cannot find it.
[23:01] <cosmicwonder> no i found it
[23:01] <cosmicwonder> thanks
[23:02] <elias_a> I'll be still awake for 15 mins or so. :P
[23:09] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Did you get it solved?
[23:10] <cosmicwonder> elias_a: yes, thanks again!
[23:11] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Good! You're welcome. Regards, yet another finn. :P
[23:11] <cosmicwonder> haha
[23:57] <yang2360> ggong1$