[00:36] <AppXprt> should installing qemu-user and binfmt-support end up virtualizing your Ubuntu install? Pretty sure I've been bluepilled...
[00:37] <AppXprt> I used it to chroot into a headless raspberry pi ARM SD install to fix a few things, two restarts later and my entire Ubuntu install is virtualized
[00:38] <AppXprt> pretty sure both of Windows and Ubuntu are VM guests now...
[00:39] <AppXprt> Windows won't even restart and when restarting or shutting down Ubuntu it hangs at hypervisor saying all VM stuff shut down
[00:41] <toddc> AppXprt: did raspberry pi add hardware virtualiztion or is it still only software?
[00:42] <AppXprt> I'm talking about on my desktop, I had the pi SD plugged up and to be able to chroot to it, I had to use qemu-user and binfmt-support since it's ARM vs AMD64
[00:42] <AppXprt> I'm almost positive my Desktop is blue pilled now
[00:43] <toddc> AppXprt: ok I had not checked in a few years
[00:44] <AppXprt> it worked for a RPI Ubuntu 22.04 install but seg faulted on a 23.04 install trying to apt upgrade (crashed on upgrading libc)
[00:44] <AppXprt> I'm pretty sure I have a rootkit that virtualized my installs
[00:45] <leftyfb> AppXprt: that's not a thing
[00:45] <AppXprt> yes it is...
[00:46] <AppXprt> has been a things since 2006
[00:46] <leftyfb> no, it's not
[00:46] <AppXprt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software)
[00:46] <AppXprt> oh ok
[00:46] <AppXprt> ...
[00:46] <AppXprt> you sure know your stuff!
[00:46] <leftyfb> chrooting to an sd card will not "blue pill" your OS
[00:47] <AppXprt> I didn't say it would
[00:47] <leftyfb> your running/host OS
[00:47] <AppXprt> I've used chroot for over 10 years
[00:47] <AppXprt> I never said that's what caused it
[00:47] <AppXprt> but adding a hypervisor (qemu) and kvm is installed apparently as well, would make that task easier
[00:48] <AppXprt> windows refuses to reboot and linux on reboot/shutdown drops to hypervisor now
[00:48] <AppXprt> dual boot
[00:48] <leftyfb> define "to hypervisor"
[00:49] <AppXprt> it drops to a screen that says all guest stuff shutdown, I'm sitting at a perpetual windows "Restarting..." for 15 minutes or I would be able to read an error out to you
[00:49] <leftyfb> take a picture
[00:49] <AppXprt> I'll kill power on Windows and boot Linux and take a pic
[00:49] <leftyfb> that's not "drops to hypervisor", it sounds like there's just some service hanging up the shutdown
[00:50] <AppXprt> no, I'm telling you, it talks about VM stuff
[00:50] <AppXprt> just wait
[00:50] <leftyfb> just because the tty has the word "hypervisor" or "guest" in the text, doesn't mean your machine is now "virtualized"
[00:50] <leftyfb> yes, because you installed "VM stuff" that are trying to shut down
[00:50] <AppXprt> you think I don't know what I'm talking about but I've been using hypervisors and VM's for 10+ years
[00:50] <leftyfb> I would suggest removing whatever it is you installed
[00:51] <AppXprt> yea, I tried that
[00:51] <AppXprt> said it removed qemu, no change
[00:51] <AppXprt> system became unstable, uninstalled my window manager and tons of stuff, dropped ubuntu-desktop, wifi driers, everything, had to fight to get it all back
[00:52] <leftyfb> sounds like you just need a reinstall now
[00:52] <AppXprt> password change took 2 reboots to actually change
[00:53] <AppXprt> now it's not doing it, where would those shutdown logs be? dmesg?
[00:55] <AppXprt> also lsusb would freeze on me
[00:55] <AppXprt> mid output
[00:57] <AppXprt> looking through syslog
[00:59] <leftyfb> AppXprt: reinstall ubuntu
[00:59] <leftyfb> there's way too much wrong with it
[01:04] <AppXprt> this is a pretty fresh install by a few days, but had some AppArmor alerts. A reinstall won't fix a bluepill if it's a virtualized rootkit
[01:05] <leftyfb> first off, if it's only a few days, then you don't have much to lose. 2nd, you'll always see apparmor messages in some logs. 3rd, a reinstall WILL fix your machine. 4th, there is no "bluepill" / "virtualized rootkit"
[01:11] <AppXprt> what makes you think there is no bluepill rootkits? I've had discussions about them with real hackers (one was an embedded firmware programmer)
[01:11] <leftyfb> AppXprt: if you've been "hacked", then your 1 and only option is to reinstall ubuntu
[01:11] <AppXprt> That won't even fix these types of rootkits
[01:12] <AppXprt> you're reinstalling in a hypervisor that maintains control
[01:12] <leftyfb> false
[01:13] <leftyfb> you don't have a blue pill'd machine
[01:13] <rbox> ROFL
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> AppXprt, if your machine is so compromised... there's no getting out.. then your best option is to dump the machine in the nearest e-waste receptacle and go buy a new computer. If you're not willing to do that, then I suggest you attempt to do the reinstall as suggested. Otherwise you are just going in circles.
[01:13] <leftyfb> AppXprt: regardless, it's offtopic here. Reinstall Ubuntu or take your "blue pill" discussion elsewhere. It has nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:14] <AppXprt> Man this PC is pretty much brand new, are you going to throw away an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X?
[01:15] <leftyfb> AppXprt: trolling is offtopic here. Take it elsewhere
[01:15] <AppXprt> I'm not trolling at all
[01:15] <leftyfb> AppXprt: you're either trolling or refusing to listen to help and reason.
[01:16] <AppXprt> man there are some problems with that logic I think
[01:16] <leftyfb> AppXprt: reinstall Ubuntu
[01:16] <AppXprt> alright I'll do that, but if it persists? Isn't there such a thing as EFI rootkits?
[01:17] <leftyfb> you don't have a rootkit
[01:17] <AppXprt> also, could you not treat people looking for help with such animosity, disdain and disbelief?
[01:17] <AppXprt> how can I prove it to you?
[01:17] <leftyfb> AppXprt: reinstall Ubuntu
[01:17] <AppXprt> and where would you like me to move this discussion, because I'm not trolling
[01:18] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | AppXprt
[01:18] <AppXprt> LoL, hold on, infection isn't a support topic?
[01:18] <AppXprt> or is it just bad publicity you mean?
[01:18] <leftyfb> AppXprt: you aren't infected. Reinstall ubuntu
[01:20] <AppXprt> alright, let me see if I can collect some evidence so you actually believe me...
[01:21] <leftyfb> AppXprt: I don't want your evidence. Reinstall ubuntu
[01:21] <AppXprt> I mean, I would think this is a pretty serious allegation especially being 23.04 on 6.2.0.33 latest kernel available
[01:22] <leftyfb> reinstall ubuntu
[01:37] <AppXprt> that's why my router logs show hundreds of failed login attempts too
[01:37] <AppXprt> cause I'm not compromised... thanks...
[01:37] <rbox> everyone getse failed attempts
[01:37] <rbox> not just you
[01:37] <leftyfb> lol
[01:37] <AppXprt> from an internal network device
[01:38] <AppXprt> man you all think everyone is stupid
[01:38] <leftyfb> great, reinstall ubuntu then
[01:38] <AppXprt> multiple devices
[01:38] <leftyfb> reinstall all of them
[01:38] <leftyfb> good luck
[01:38] <rbox> the connections are coming from INSIDE THE NETWORK
[01:40] <leftyfb> sudo grep "$(date +'%b %d').*authentication failure" /var/log/auth.log |wc -l
[01:40] <leftyfb> 1335
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> don't forget to filter local network attempts
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> ;)
[01:41] <leftyfb> lol
[01:43] <leftyfb> of course, that's email auth. ssh is locked down pretty tight. I only get a maybe a couple "invalid user" attempts a day
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> I don't fully understand the purpose of chroot much anymore. I usually just mount the device on another machine, copy select files over and just reimage the drive
[01:44] <leftyfb> yep
[01:44] <leftyfb> or just wipe the thing and start over if you've mucked it up that bad
[01:45] <leftyfb> either way, it's been a long day. Got paged at stupid-o-lock this morning to work around customer ignorance. Gonna call it an early night
[01:46] <rbox> pragmaticenigma: you chroot to be able to run apps liek they would be if you were booted into t hat system
[01:46] <rbox> its not just about recovering a failed system
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> rbox, I understand for purposes of cross platform compiling or testing. But as a troubleshooting technique to "fix" a broken system. It just doesn't make sense
[01:48] <rbox> depends on how its broken
[01:48] <rbox> maybe you just need to reinstall a package
[01:48] <pragmaticenigma> nah... it's so fast to just wipe and start over these days... hardly worth it
[01:48] <rbox> ROFL
[01:48] <rbox> thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard of
[01:48] <Eickmeyer> rbox: That's not helpful.
[02:03] <carpatu> I get a freeze if I leave my pc on for more than 2 days and then I do some extensive processing(like compiling boost or playing albion online with lots of players on the map), it manifests: I can move my mouse 1milimeter every 5 seconds and I see the light of the ssd running at 99% capacity
[02:04] <carpatu> its the swap right? I have 8GB, I am thinking about what I can do to troubleshoot it
[02:04] <rbox> get more ram
[02:05] <carpatu> I have 8GB ram, my swap is 2GB
[02:06] <carpatu> which logs should I check?
[02:07] <carpatu> and I was thinking about adding a htop to my 2nd screen in permancence so I can catch the deed in happening, unless I can write a script for gnome to do something like a htop dump if the ticks per second are extremely low
[02:08] <carpatu> I cant dump htop
[02:09] <carpatu> I can dump free
[02:15] <carpatu> oh its been like this when compiling massive game engines with 4 threads, good thing I remembered. It's the memory ammounts yeah, but why on albion online and why after 2 days. is it that the swapfile is memory leaked but my ram isnt?
[02:19] <pragmaticenigma> carpatu, you might have some application running in the background with a memory leak. I have had Deluge do that on my system from a faulty extension I had enabled. I'm not familiar with the game you're referring to, but my best guess for a game played in a web browser would be to make sure hardware acceleration is enabled
[02:27] <carpatu> its a game with native support for linux
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> carpatu, I'd start an audit of all the applications you have setup on that machine to autolaunch at boot or login as well as services/daemons also setup to run in the background, especially anything running containered or virtualized
[02:35] <carpatu> its a deadlock I just checked the logs, all processes are timing out
[02:35] <carpatu> either ram or cpu
[02:35] <carpatu> or swap file(ssd)
[02:36] <carpatu> I doubt you gotta freeze completely if its swap file filled up and ur i/o-ing alloc/dealloc constantly, so I'll write that one off
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> if it was the swaping... I'd be suspect that the drive was starting to fail (or at least the sectors allocated to the swap file running low on write cycles being it's an SSD)
[02:39] <pragmaticenigma> I've gotta sign off... sounds like you might have the right info on where to start your search. deadlocks are least being logged. now to find the one that contributes to the lockup
[06:49] <kotgc> Error installing ubuntu: No root file system is defined.Solutions are a bit confusing. I'm surprised the Disks app doesn't format the disk properly, when I formatted the disk to Ext4? https://www.easeus.com/computer-instruction/no-root-file-is-defined.html
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | kotgc can this help?
[06:50] <ramstik> was this previously formatted with lvm? i've noticed ubuntu seems to really not like overwriting an lvm formatted disk.
[06:51] <kotgc> ramstik, I just formatted via Ubuntu's app Disks https://i.imgur.com/hhqKSrE.png
[06:52] <ramstik> so it looks like job done then
[06:53] <kotgc> ubottu, what's the !fstab !GParted, what's the exclamation mark for?
[06:53] <ramstik> ubittu is a bot
[06:53] <ramstik> so let me ask a different question, what's the goal here
[06:53] <ramstik> to install ubuntu?
[06:53] <kotgc> ramstik, yes, but intalling shows error: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZXCbhhM7MyBQNygJ7
[06:53] <kotgc> ramstik, I can brink up some choice in install https://photos.app.goo.gl/ff9wrHg1rqEtcxYJ6
[06:54] <kotgc> ok, a bot
[06:54] <ramstik> ok, so you need to reformat the disk and partition it out a certain way. this isn't like windows where you just format it and click go.
[06:54] <kotgc> ramstik, yes, install on Disk2, a 120GB SSD.
[06:54] <ramstik> so what you're gonna want to do is clear what you've done, then make three new partitions
[06:55] <ramstik> partition one can be 512M - partition 2 can be 8G or so (swap) and the last one can be whatever's left
[06:55] <ramstik> partition 1: use as EFI System
[06:55] <ramstik> partition 2: use as swap area
[06:55] <ramstik> partition 3: use as ext4 journaling fs
[06:56] <ramstik> then set the mountpoint on the third one to /
[06:56] <ramstik> and check format for it as well
[06:57] <kotgc2ndchoice> test
[06:57] <ramstik> hello
[06:58] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, thx, sorry, my network is about to die, hence the new install.
[06:58] <ramstik> interesting. do you need the instructions again or did you manage to grab a screenshot
[06:59] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, I copied the text to notepad.
[06:59] <ramstik> wonderful
[07:01] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, can I ask? Is there a better choice in the top and bottom windows? https://photos.app.goo.gl/emFjvDTVNh9PwSS8A
[07:01] <kotgc2ndchoice> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XiTFpZ2KjT69LQRr7
[07:02] <ramstik> you've still not made partitions
[07:03] <kotgc2ndchoice> Haven't started, just preparing.
[07:03] <ramstik> that bootloader selection option won't be there when you set it to use ESP
[07:03] <ramstik> or if it is it will be set to the esp partition
[07:04] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, don't know about ESP, I'll start your steps first and the issue may be gone https://www.britannica.com/topic/extrasensory-perception
[07:04] <ramstik> EFI System Partition
[07:04] <ramstik> ESO
[07:04] <ramstik> ESP*
[07:05] <kotgc2ndchoice> EFI: Firmware Interface, ok
[07:06] <ramstik> extensible firmware interface yes
[07:07] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, ahh, the old BIOS :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFlNr8JpwCo
[07:26] <kotgc> ramstik, there is only an option to change the Ext4 to efi or swap, but no option to change the size to 512MB or 8GB? https://photos.app.goo.gl/TBi6NJ8TwQ2Rr8Vz5
[07:27] <kotgc> Maybe I can manually do this with Disks or GParted?
[07:29] <ramstik> you still haven't created partitions
[07:29] <ramstik> what version of ubuntu is this, i'll go through it and take video
[07:30] <kotgc> ramstik, no, I thought the installer could do that. I'm installing GParted now.
[07:30] <kotgc> ramstik, Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS jammy Desktop.
[07:30] <kotgc> I'm following this now...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/PartitioningBasics
[07:32] <ramstik> the desktop image?
[07:33] <kotgc> ramstik, image? This machine is Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS jammy Desktop. The bootable USB1 is ubuntu-22.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso.
[07:33] <ramstik> np, loading mine up now
[07:33] <ramstik> that guide is a lot of text
[07:33] <kotgc> This machine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.70GHz
[07:34] <ramstik> irrelevant
[07:34] <kotgc> ramstik, yes, I'm kind of exhausted from so much reading and leading to no solution. I'm just going to install GParted and try that.
[07:34] <ramstik> just give me a second
[07:34] <ramstik> gparted can make partitions but you'll still have to do the mountpoint stuff
[07:34] <ramstik> you said when you tried to just tell it to use the whole disk it pitched an error?
[07:35] <ramstik> cause there is an option to just wipe and use a whole disk
[07:36] <kotgc> ramstik, The installer greyed out the button 'Install Now' when Disk2 was formatted Unknown. I then reformatted to Ext4 > selected Change in installer and the 'Install Now' button activated. Selecting Install Now brings up error: No root file system is defined.
[07:37] <kotgc> https://photos.app.goo.gl/miC9es5eXKrZ7PvV7
[07:38] <ramstik> you're still in the page for custom partitioning.
[07:38] <ramstik> if you click Quit and go back through the process fresh, there's a choice that asks what you want to do with the disk
[07:39] <kotgc> ramstik, I quit and am now in the Desktop machine/OS.
[07:39] <ramstik> ok, open the installer but don't go ahead y et, let me get where you are so we line up
[07:39] <kotgc> ramstik, yes, this https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPCBoJ3BbyO7TPqUiCmDH5jcj2XybPPCfdWE0cz
[07:39] <ramstik> broken url
[07:39] <kotgc> I'm in my machine with Gparted.
[07:40] <kotgc> try this https://photos.app.goo.gl/zm2hTy4fNYdTBxRd7
[07:41] <ramstik> well you already wiped the disk so the third option is the one you want
[07:41] <ramstik> it should let you choose which disk after that
[07:41] <kotgc> ramstik, no, Disk1 is this Desktop I'm on right now.
[07:42] <ramstik> oh, that's the complication
[07:42] <ramstik> you're trying to install it on a fresh disk while being booted into a real installation
[07:42] <ramstik> my bad, i thought you were in the iso installer
[07:42] <kotgc> ramstik, I can share the whole story https://xyproblem.info/ but basically just need to install to Disk2.
[07:43] <kotgc> ramstik, running on Disk1, installing from USB1 to Disk2.
[07:43] <ramstik> on this screen you click the disk and select new partition table - https://nc.ramstik.dev/s/GbLx6NXkY5DB2EN
[07:44] <ramstik> then click the words 'free space' and click the + https://nc.ramstik.dev/s/RzP7D9sDLi9zwpe
[07:45] <kotgc> ramstik, not possible as the 'New Partition Table...' is greyed out when I select /dev/sdb
[07:46] <ramstik> you probably have two /dev/sdb entries, one is the "partition" from formatting it
[07:46] <ramstik> you have to select its header
[07:47] <ramstik> https://nc.ramstik.dev/s/EG57tcW6MDoRWSi
[07:47] <kotgc> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QwQdjfZ1dZ4nhEor9
[07:48] <ramstik> weird.
[07:49] <ramstik> ok, let's use gdisk then, how strange
[07:49] <EriC^^> kotgc: i think you've formatted the disk itself and not created a partition
[07:49] <ramstik> correct but the installer won't let them create the new partition table
[07:50] <EriC^^> maybe some safety measure? try to dd first few bytes with zeros or use gdisk/fdisk to create a fresh partition table?
[07:50] <ramstik> do you know how to use gdisk @kotgc
[07:50] <kotgc> EriC^^, yes, formatted to Ext4.
[07:50] <ramstik> i don't know how to tag people in irc
[07:50] <kotgc> ramstik, gdisk or GParted?
[07:50] <ramstik> gdisk
[07:50] <ramstik> or fdisk on the terminal
[07:50] <ramstik> fdisk should be preinstalled
[07:51] <EriC^^> kotgc: sudo gdisk /dev/sdb , press "o" to create a fresh partition table, "w" to write it
[07:51] <kotgc> ramstik, ok, I need to research how to use fdisk and gdisk
[07:51] <ramstik> eric just gave you the commands for gdisk to wipe the disk so the installer can read it fresh
[07:52] <kotgc> EriC^^, done
[07:53] <Jackneill> hey. i a folder with images in nemo 5.6.3. when i click on an image the 1st one opens always. when i open it from the open with.. menu the corretc one opens. any idea why? gnome files works correctly so it must be a nemo problem.
[07:53] <EriC^^> kotgc: ok, just a sanity check, /dev/sdb isnt mounted right? "mount | grep /dev/sdb"
[07:53] <ramstik> too late now kek
[07:53] <ramstik> kotgc, now you can go through the installer and pick up where i left off with creating a partition
[07:54] <EriC^^> 1sec
[07:54] <EriC^^> see first that it's not mounted so nothing gets written, then type "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb" so the kernel reads the new table
[07:55] <kotgc> ramstik, Disks app shows Disk2 with Contents Unallocated Space, before it was Ext4.
[07:55] <ramstik> good
[07:55] <ramstik> now you need to click unallocated space and make a partition
[07:55] <kotgc> EriC^^, done
[07:56] <kotgc> ramstik, in GParted or in Installer?
[07:56] <ramstik> eric's on a different path and you're following every instruction given regardless of who it's from so i'm gonna bow out at this point, good luck
[07:56] <kotgc> ramstik, thx
[07:56] <ramstik> np
[07:56] <ramstik> in case you need them, here are the partition settings
[07:56] <EriC^^> ramstik: it's the same path, i just put 2 steps to make sure nothing goes wrong
[07:57] <ramstik> kotgc, in the installer
[07:57] <EriC^^> it's like i asked him to md5sum the iso before installing, that's all we're on the same page still
[07:57] <ramstik> ah ok, my bad.
[07:57] <ramstik> i didn't know what that command was so i thought you were going down a different path
[07:57] <kotgc> ramstik, ok, here goes...
[07:57] <ramstik> kek
[08:05] <ramstik> i have exhausted the amount of time i am willing to wait for them to rejoin
[08:05] <ramstik> goodnight
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> Firefox snap keeps showing on snap-store, saying snap has no updates available, snap refresh says all up to date
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> tested on 22.04 desktop
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> installed:          118.0.1-1
[08:23] <kotgc> Installer added partitions, but I'm unsure on what to select to 'Install Now'? When I selected /dev/sdb, then Install Now, Error: No root file system https://photos.app.goo.gl/1yroUp7s9hrjMNQ9A
[08:25] <rabbitnightmare> hello, is anyone awake? I am facing an issue where the UI is experiences latency spikes. Its strange because it only does this in the default Ubuntu desktop, Kubuntu, Lubuntu etc doesnt do this
[08:25] <ramstik> kotgc, please show me the installer window without the popup in the middle of it
[08:25] <kotgc> ramstik, https://photos.app.goo.gl/9MXTJFevPMDMJEQJ7
[08:25] <rabbitnightmare> its wierd too because I was watching a youtube video and the fps in youtube dropped to like 3-4 fps
[08:26] <ramstik> ok one moment
[08:26] <ramstik> don't do anything i don't tell you
[08:27] <kotgc> ramstik, I'm back in my Disk1 Desktop now. I'm not sure what the Installer 'Device for boot loader installation:' is, but I selected /dev/sdb (the default was /dev/sda).
[08:27] <ramstik> so again
[08:27] <ramstik> *Wait*
[08:27] <ramstik> i will tell you what to do
[08:27] <rabbitnightmare> it is repeatable too, anytime I launch steam for example
[08:27] <kotgc> ramstik, ok
[08:28] <ramstik> first off, good work making the partitions.
[08:28] <ramstik> now
[08:29] <ramstik> double click the partition that says ext4, it should being up an edit window with a box that says "Mount point"
[08:29] <ramstik> simply put in the field: /
[08:29] <ramstik> https://nc.ramstik.dev/s/7p7tZPWzHxYoLmC
[08:29] <kotgc> ramstik, sorry, I can only chat to you in this Disk1 Desktop.
[08:30] <ramstik> ok so here's the steps
[08:30] <ramstik> double click that ext4 partition put the mountpoint like this: https://nc.ramstik.dev/s/7p7tZPWzHxYoLmC
[08:30] <ramstik> then select dev/sdb1 as the bootloader
[08:30] <ramstik> then click install
[08:33] <kotgc> ramstik, to be clear, the bootloader is the bottom window? Is the top window ok with me selecting /dev/sdb?
[08:33] <kotgc> *field, not window
[08:33] <ramstik> yes, the bootloader is the dropdown, it needs to be set to what the efi partition is which is /dev/sdb1
[08:36] <kotgc2ndchoice> Rame, the top field is just for editing disks?
[08:36] <ramstik> yes
[08:36] <ramstik> which you've already completed
[08:37] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, ok, I think I get it.
[08:37] <ramstik> you don't need to change anything in the top half except for adding the mountpount to the ext4 partition
[08:37] <ramstik> sdb3
[08:37] <kotgc2ndchoice> ramstik, ok, here I go..
[08:38] <rabbitnightmare> I dont understand why starting steam on Ubuntu makes my mouse cursor drop to like 5 fps and lags everything else out on my system
[08:39] <rabbitnightmare> can someone please help me
[08:39] <ramstik> rabbitnightmare, sounds like a hardware acceleration issue, or the computer isn't powerful enough to process such a heavy load
[08:39] <ramstik> generally when the mouse cursor gets bad is when the system is so overloaded it can't even process that
[08:39] <rabbitnightmare> i5 13600k with rtx 3050
[08:39] <rabbitnightmare> 48gb ram
[08:39] <rabbitnightmare> hardly think its the system
[08:39] <rabbitnightmare> 2tb gen4 nvme ssd
[08:40] <rabbitnightmare> its not my system bro its Ubuntu desktop specifically because KDE Plasma doesnt do this
[08:40] <ramstik> nvidia drivers installed?
[08:40] <rabbitnightmare> yes of course
[08:40] <rabbitnightmare> vblank is off
[08:41] <rabbitnightmare> so I decided to do this on an AMD card to see, on an older Ryzen 3400 and it does the same thing
[08:41] <rabbitnightmare> it is specifically something to do with gnome and how Ubuntu does things
[08:42] <ramstik> stop using gnome /s
[08:42] <rabbitnightmare> Ubuntu uses gnome
[08:42] <ramstik> kubuntu
[08:42] <rabbitnightmare> yeah I cant just tell clients to switch etc
[08:42] <ramstik> someone on steam forums says they reduced steam's process affinity (or adding niceness) to let the usb drivers work
[08:42] <ramstik> or turn down mouse polling
[08:43] <rabbitnightmare> ok I will try that thank you, the mouse polling thing because it does this with commercial software
[08:43] <rabbitnightmare> steam is just a nice test
[08:43] <rabbitnightmare> repeatable and free
[08:43] <ramstik> i was curious why you were testing steam lol
[08:43] <Jackneill> hey. i a folder with images in nemo 5.6.3. when i click on an image the 1st one opens always. when i open it from the open with.. menu the corretc one opens. any idea why? gnome files works correctly so it must be a nemo problem. (https://termbin.com/v4na)
[08:44] <ramstik> also i don't know if it matters but is that 13___K processor using p/e cores?
[08:44] <ramstik> heard about all kinds of dumb crap with those under linux in general
[08:44] <rabbitnightmare> I will write a script and push it out
[08:48] <rabbitnightmare> turning down mouse polling worked on both pcs
[08:48] <rabbitnightmare> thank you
[08:49] <ramstik> sweet
[08:49] <ramstik> good to hear
[08:49] <rabbitnightmare> seems like gnome needs a better scheduler
[08:49] <ramstik> gnome needs a lot of things
[08:49] <rabbitnightmare> yeah I am not a fan and dont use it personally
[08:49] <ramstik> to go the way of the dinosaur being at the top of the list
[08:49] <rabbitnightmare> no other desktop is as slow or as bloated as gnome which is such a strange thing to say
[08:50] <ramstik> gnome used to be good
[08:50] <rabbitnightmare> I wonder why canonical clings to it
[08:50] <rabbitnightmare> I tried cosmic and its amazing
[08:50] <ramstik> cosmic? new one to me
[08:51] <ramstik> also remember canonical was using unity for a while
[08:52] <rabbitnightmare> system76's new desktop on popOS!
[08:52] <rabbitnightmare> they should go back to Unity
[08:53] <ramstik> oh, cosmic
[08:53] <ramstik> yeah it's gorgeous
[08:53] <ramstik> a little too glamorous for my tastes, but then again i daily drive macOS
[08:53] <rabbitnightmare> ever since the gnome devs got $10k from Microsoft gnome went from annoying to worse
[08:54] <ramstik> but i'll take any other linux DE and file manager over whatever it is canonical is shitting out because if i can't do something as simple as drag a file to my desktop, i don't want you running my computer
[08:54] <rabbitnightmare> cosmic is a bit rough atm but its usable and fun to use
[08:54] <rabbitnightmare> its not canonical doing it, they are just taking debian and slapping gnome on it and adding a few tweaks here and there
[08:54] <rabbitnightmare> they are on autopilot lately
[08:55] <rabbitnightmare> I prefer and use LXDE and Plasma
[08:55] <rabbitnightmare> LXQt is nice but has bugs for me
[09:02] <rabbitnightmare> ramstik thanks for the tip, I am done writing the script and I will actually submit this to canonical in the vain hopes they might actually use it because it almost fixes the issue, its a bandaid on a broken limb but it makes gnome tolerable for now
[09:03] <rabbitnightmare> take care man
[09:04] <ramstik> would be nice to see feedback actually fix ubuntu
[09:04] <ramstik> g'nite
[11:36] <Jackneill> hey. i a folder with images in nemo 5.6.3. when i click on an image the 1st one opens always. when i open it from the open with.. menu the corretc one opens. any idea why? gnome files works correctly so it must be a nemo problem. (https://termbin.com/v4na)
[11:43] <feather> Hi
[12:00] <strk> I need a way to move /var/lib/snapd to another partition, as I'm out of space
[12:00] <strk> how to do that ?
[12:01] <strk> also is it normal to have 3 entries for gnome ?
[12:01] <strk> gnome-3-28-1804    3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67  198    latest/stable  canonicalâ     -
[12:01] <strk> gnome-3-38-2004    0+git.efb213a               143    latest/stable  canonicalâ     -
[12:01] <strk> gnome-42-2204      0+git.ff35a85               141    latest/stable  canonicalâ     -
[12:01] <strk> and actually, do I need gnome at all, when I use i3 as the window manager ?
[12:01] <jeremy31> strk should be able to find instructions on how to move home to a new partition with a web search
[13:40] <mircsicz> Hi all, I'm missing /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels is there a package I need to install so apt keeps only two kernel's?
[13:42] <danza> is that a file you can add by yourself to enable that behaviour?
[13:44] <mircsicz> danza I've not yet found an example which I could use to deploy via ansible
[13:45] <riodoanx> test
[13:47] <danza> deploying to ansible seems a different problem
[13:47] <danza> *via
[13:50] <mircsicz> danza that's no prob, it's just that I can't find examples or a packe to install
[13:50] <mircsicz> *package
[13:51] <danza> i am confused by the mention of a conf file in relationship with a package to install. If this is conf, one would not need to install anything else. Anyway, i am not familiar with that conf
[14:00] <mare1203> Hi, is there any emoji picker app for ubuntu with xfce... I would like to be able to install it through ppa, not snap or flathub
[14:04] <zteam> mare1203,, usally this is picked from the applicastions itself, since ppas are not supported here I doubt, someone will suggest a ppa for it :-)
[14:09] <leftyfb> mare1203: sudo snap install emote
[14:09] <leftyfb> mare1203: there's no reason you can't install from snap
[14:11] <zteam> Hello, I have an issue, with Ubuntu refusing to turn on my screen, after the machine is suspended, it's definetly caused by the nvidia driver, I tried uninstalling the nvidia-driver and everything worked fine, systeminformation is here https://dpaste.com/2K484KTDR output from dmesg -wH is here https://dpaste.com/CPCWQNXSB
[14:12] <zteam> leftyfb, perhaps, she thinks snap is using a lot more diskspace than needed
[14:16] <danza> zteam, i guess you are left with checking whether any alternative driver does not reportedly feature the same issue
[14:17] <zteam> danza, Well, I checked threee different Nvidia drivers already :-/
[14:19] <danza> sounds like a difficult case
[14:19] <anonymous> hey
[14:20] <anonymous> hey is anyone here
[14:20] <danza> someone is panicking
[14:20] <zteam> danza, Yerp
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:21] <danza> hey BluesKaj
[14:22] <zteam> mare1203,, You can try using this if you want to stay away from snap, but snap still has some security advantages https://github.com/GaZaTu/im-emoji-picker
[14:22] <BluesKaj> hey danza
[14:22] <danza> do you have automated greetings on all your channels BluesKaj?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:25] <BluesKaj> danza, /amsg Hi all, on the server page
[14:26] <mare1203> Just found system emoji picker, activated with ctrl + . 😀
[14:26] <danza_> i find it a bit noisy, but good to be reminded about that functionality, will use it for farewell
[14:27] <danza_> oh, it is already so late ... bye all and enjoy the weekend
[14:28] <danza_> i think the effect has been disruptive ... will hardly ever use it again
[16:27] <Jackneill> hey. i a folder with images in nemo 5.6.3. when i click on an image the 1st one opens always. when i open it from the open with.. menu the corretc one opens. any idea why? gnome files works correctly so it must be a nemo problem. (https://termbin.com/v4na)
[16:28] <rbox> if you dont like the behavior of a program, you should talk to the developers
[17:06] <Rocky24> G`Day
[20:44] <ant42> Hi I can't compile a irc server in ubuntu, it compiles and run well in macos any idea
[20:45] <ant42> c++98 code
[20:45] <rbox> "i can't compile" doesn't really say much
[20:46] <ant42> the code is for macos can i simulate macos in ubuntu? freebsd maybe?
[20:46] <rbox> what does "for macos" mean
[20:47] <ant42> is writing in mac and compiles well and run perfect in a mac but i need run it in ubuntu
[20:47]  * rbox gives up
[20:48] <leftyfb> ant42: if it's not meant for linux, then you are on your own with making it compile on linux
[20:48] <ravage> must be some secret code
[20:49] <ant42> The project was made on mac with language c + + 98 but ubuntu does not compile for several failures I tried to solve it but should change enough things in the code, the idea is if there is a website that converts the automatic code or some emulator of mac
[20:49] <leftyfb> ant42: good luck
[20:50] <ant42> nah i am a student in 42 school is only an irc server proyect
[20:51] <ravage> this not offtopic here so maybe ask the maintainer of this still not mentioned secret code project
[20:51] <ravage> *is offtopic
[20:51] <ant42> I'll try chatgpt let's see what AI is capable of
[20:51] <rbox> rofl
[20:52] <rbox> chatgpt isn't going to be able to answer "i can't compile"
[20:52] <ant42> sorry and thx
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> rbox: Please do not "rofl" "lol" or otherwise exhibit unfriendly, unhelpful behavior. That violates the Code of Conduct.