| lotuspsychje | good morning | 01:17 |
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| PeGaSuS | morning | 06:50 |
| Guest76 | hi, i am trying to decide between alpine linux and ubuntu. | 10:46 |
| Guest76 | can someone help ? | 10:46 |
| lotuspsychje | as we are in the ubuntu chat(s) we advice ubuntu | 10:47 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu has a great, big community | 10:47 |
| lotuspsychje | but it all depends on what you really need Guest76 | 10:47 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe if you share whats important to you, volunteers can share ideas | 10:48 |
| Guest76 | I want to build a server that is specific for running backend apps like Java & Node.js and maybe mysql. | 10:48 |
| Guest76 | I want it to be as lean as possible but not sure if I should choose alpine linux because they dont have a revenue business model. | 10:48 |
| Guest76 | Unless I am wrong about that | 10:48 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje | 10:50 |
| lotuspsychje | i never tested alpine myself, so i cant advice on that | 10:50 |
| lotuspsychje | we do have a great #ubuntu-server channel here, in weekdays pretty active | 10:51 |
| lotuspsychje | and ubuntu server is a swiss knife for all your needs too | 10:51 |
| lotuspsychje | solid base | 10:51 |
| lotuspsychje | lets assume you want to try 22.04 server, you might take a look at the releasenotes Guest76 | 10:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !22.04 | 10:52 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) is the 36th release of Ubuntu and the current !LTS release – Download at https://ubuntu.com/download :: Release notes at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes :: Further schedule at https://ubottu.com/y/jj | 10:52 |
| Guest76 | ok thank you | 10:52 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje how do i learn to gut down all the stuff i dont need in an ubuntu server for my scenario of running java & node.js apps? | 10:53 |
| Guest76 | so its as lean as possible. | 10:53 |
| Guest76 | i dont know where to begin. | 10:53 |
| lotuspsychje | !server | 10:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Focal (Focal Fossa 20.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs - Support in | 10:54 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje, no current is this "Download Ubuntu Server 22.04.3 LTS" | 10:56 |
| Guest76 | not 20.04 | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | good spot | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | for your case, the server docs and releasenotes would be a good start | 10:57 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje it wont talk about what I can remove or not remove from the server, it will talk about updates in that version. | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !no server is <reply> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Jammy Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish)- More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs - Support in #ubuntu-server | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest76: when installing ubuntu-server things are prety vanilla, then you start building up the services you want on your server | 11:01 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje I understand that things are pretty vanilla but my goal is that if there is a 10kb file that i wont need, i want to delete it. How do I start learning to reach this goal? | 11:02 |
| lotuspsychje | lol? | 11:02 |
| lotuspsychje | good luck with that | 11:03 |
| Guest76 | big task i assume | 11:05 |
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| lotuspsychje | Guest76: there are plenty of shredders and cleaners to wipe unwanted stuff around too | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | bleachbit for example | 11:08 |
| Guest76 | lotuspsychje thats for cleaning disk space, it wont make the distro smaller | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | why | 11:09 |
| leftyfb | that latest spam troll has been posting the same garbage on multiple networks for at least 14 years (I have logs) | 17:22 |
| jeremy31 | Someone up to banning 14 years worth of IP addresses | 17:31 |
| leftyfb | they're over on EFnet now. I'm asking why they have been doing this for over a decade. I can understand for a few years. We were all dumb kids once. But they're an adult now. | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | and they simply refuse to answer the question | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | I used to have an eggdrop over on EFnet that would ban anyone that said their predictable garbage. I think it had over 100 regex's to look for. They stopped a few years ago so I took it offline. | 17:34 |
| Eickmeyer | libera staff is aware. It's like playing whack-a-mole because it's scripted through multiple VPNs. | 17:38 |
| leftyfb | Eickmeyer: yeah, there's no way to block them completely. You have to put up with the garbage spam and be reactive. Like I said, my bot used to catch all of his garbage and he was removed immediately after posting once. Here, we have to wait for staff to respond, if available. | 17:40 |
| Eickmeyer | As you see, they got K-lined, but that only works on cloaks and IPs. | 17:41 |
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| JanC | leftyfb: I doubt it's the same person all these years; the scripts for this have been around as open source since the 1990s | 21:44 |
| jeremy31 | Obviously modified to include Libera | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | It’s the same person | 21:45 |
| JanC | jeremy31: maybe, or they just scrape netsplit.de for a list of networks :) | 21:46 |
| JanC | leftyfb: if it is known who this is, why has nobody reported them to the police / sued them? | 21:47 |
| jeremy31 | Could be some AI behind it | 21:47 |
| leftyfb | Nope. Not when I had an entire conversation with them on EFnet shortly after they got Klined here | 21:48 |
| leftyfb | JanC: police? For spamming IRC? | 21:48 |
| jeremy31 | Canadian IPs? | 21:49 |
| JanC | spamming is illegal, but you could also see it as harassment/stalking, and there is the cost of dealing with it (which you could probably sue them for) | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | They use proxies. | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | Spamming is not illegal | 21:50 |
| JanC | it is in some countries | 21:50 |
| leftyfb | Hell, SPAM email isn’t even illegal in the U.S. | 21:50 |
| jeremy31 | Spam phone calls in the USA are only legal in some cases | 21:50 |
| JanC | I think the law here says you can only spam customers or people who agreed to be spammed | 21:51 |
| JanC | or members of a group, etc. | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | Either way, online trolls hardly ever get brought to justice. Most of them grow out of it. But some don’t apparently | 21:51 |
| jeremy31 | JanC: similar here for phone | 21:52 |
| Square | I would like to install https://github.com/Fausto-Korpsvart/Everforest-GTK-Theme but the creator talks about copying files here and there. Is there some place to look for a ppa to avoid all the manual work? | 22:11 |
| leftyfb | Square: unlikely | 22:14 |
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