[01:17] good morning [06:50] morning [10:46] hi, i am trying to decide between alpine linux and ubuntu. [10:46] can someone help ? [10:47] as we are in the ubuntu chat(s) we advice ubuntu [10:47] ubuntu has a great, big community [10:47] but it all depends on what you really need Guest76 [10:48] maybe if you share whats important to you, volunteers can share ideas [10:48] I want to build a server that is specific for running backend apps like Java & Node.js and maybe mysql. [10:48] I want it to be as lean as possible but not sure if I should choose alpine linux because they dont have a revenue business model. [10:48] Unless I am wrong about that [10:50] lotuspsychje [10:50] i never tested alpine myself, so i cant advice on that [10:51] we do have a great #ubuntu-server channel here, in weekdays pretty active [10:51] and ubuntu server is a swiss knife for all your needs too [10:51] solid base [10:52] lets assume you want to try 22.04 server, you might take a look at the releasenotes Guest76 [10:52] !22.04 [10:52] Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) is the 36th release of Ubuntu and the current !LTS release – Download at https://ubuntu.com/download :: Release notes at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes :: Further schedule at https://ubottu.com/y/jj [10:52] ok thank you [10:53] lotuspsychje how do i learn to gut down all the stuff i dont need in an ubuntu server for my scenario of running java & node.js apps? [10:53] so its as lean as possible. [10:53] i dont know where to begin. [10:54] !server [10:54] Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Focal (Focal Fossa 20.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs - Support in [10:56] lotuspsychje, no current is this "Download Ubuntu Server 22.04.3 LTS" [10:56] not 20.04 [10:56] good spot [10:57] for your case, the server docs and releasenotes would be a good start [10:58] lotuspsychje it wont talk about what I can remove or not remove from the server, it will talk about updates in that version. [11:00] !no server is Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Jammy Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish)- More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs - Support in #ubuntu-server [11:01] Guest76: when installing ubuntu-server things are prety vanilla, then you start building up the services you want on your server [11:02] lotuspsychje I understand that things are pretty vanilla but my goal is that if there is a 10kb file that i wont need, i want to delete it. How do I start learning to reach this goal? [11:02] lol? [11:03] good luck with that [11:05] big task i assume === EriC^^ is now known as Guest6270 === Guest6270 is now known as EriC^^ [11:08] Guest76: there are plenty of shredders and cleaners to wipe unwanted stuff around too [11:08] bleachbit for example [11:08] lotuspsychje thats for cleaning disk space, it wont make the distro smaller [11:09] why [17:22] that latest spam troll has been posting the same garbage on multiple networks for at least 14 years (I have logs) [17:31] Someone up to banning 14 years worth of IP addresses [17:32] they're over on EFnet now. I'm asking why they have been doing this for over a decade. I can understand for a few years. We were all dumb kids once. But they're an adult now. [17:32] and they simply refuse to answer the question [17:34] I used to have an eggdrop over on EFnet that would ban anyone that said their predictable garbage. I think it had over 100 regex's to look for. They stopped a few years ago so I took it offline. [17:38] libera staff is aware. It's like playing whack-a-mole because it's scripted through multiple VPNs. [17:40] Eickmeyer: yeah, there's no way to block them completely. You have to put up with the garbage spam and be reactive. Like I said, my bot used to catch all of his garbage and he was removed immediately after posting once. Here, we have to wait for staff to respond, if available. [17:41] As you see, they got K-lined, but that only works on cloaks and IPs. === nckx_ is now known as nckx === nckx is now known as nckhexen [21:44] leftyfb: I doubt it's the same person all these years; the scripts for this have been around as open source since the 1990s [21:44] Obviously modified to include Libera [21:45] It’s the same person [21:46] jeremy31: maybe, or they just scrape netsplit.de for a list of networks :) [21:47] leftyfb: if it is known who this is, why has nobody reported them to the police / sued them? [21:47] Could be some AI behind it [21:48] Nope. Not when I had an entire conversation with them on EFnet shortly after they got Klined here [21:48] JanC: police? For spamming IRC? [21:49] Canadian IPs? [21:49] spamming is illegal, but you could also see it as harassment/stalking, and there is the cost of dealing with it (which you could probably sue them for) [21:49] They use proxies. [21:50] Spamming is not illegal [21:50] it is in some countries [21:50] Hell, SPAM email isn’t even illegal in the U.S. [21:50] Spam phone calls in the USA are only legal in some cases [21:51] I think the law here says you can only spam customers or people who agreed to be spammed [21:51] or members of a group, etc. [21:51] Either way, online trolls hardly ever get brought to justice. Most of them grow out of it. But some don’t apparently [21:52] JanC: similar here for phone [22:11] I would like to install https://github.com/Fausto-Korpsvart/Everforest-GTK-Theme but the creator talks about copying files here and there. Is there some place to look for a ppa to avoid all the manual work? [22:14] Square: unlikely