[04:04] <dal2> Hello, I filed those two pcmanfm-qt HDD encryption bugs a while back. I think I understand the problem better now and I'm wondering if anyone is around who's good with systemd-journal ownership issues
[04:12] <dal2> Here's that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/2017464
[04:12] -ubottu:#lubuntu- Launchpad bug 2017464 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "in pcmanfm-qt, permission denied after successful decryption" [Undecided, New]
[04:13] <dal2> It's weird. In some of my setups, Nautilus shows me the files in the directories, but when I try to open one, it gives me "This file does not exist" I think it has something to do with systemd-journal because ls -l shows me that the entire decrypted drive is owned by systemd-journal ... not sure if that's relevant, but maybe?
[04:22] <dal2> I mean "sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/external_drive" sounds a little risky to do with my entire HDD, but I could be wrong.
[04:22] <dal2> Be back later
[14:09] <dal2> Hello. If a Lubuntu live session user plugs in an unencrypted hard drive, who does "ls -l" typically show as the drive's default owner? lubutu? root? systemd-journal
[14:09] <dal2> ?
[14:23] <dal2> Hi xangua
[16:09] <dal2> So booting up with Ubuntu Studio 12.04, I'm able to decrypt and take possession successfully from the file manager. Then "ls -l" shows me the decrypted hard drive's files are owned by ubuntu-studio, as you'd expect
[16:11] <dal2> But going back to mantic Lubuntu, I'm able to decrypt successfully, but not take possession since I get "permission denied" errors as laid out in my bug report (actually two reports). When in mantic I look at the decrypted drive, it says the decrypted drive (and I presume its files; no permissions to cd) are owned by systemd-journal
[16:12] <dal2> Rather than risk executing "chown -R" every time I boot up, I'm now going to have to switch to a distro that allows my live session user to take possession of decrypted files through the filemanager pcmanfm-qt. Thanks, Lubuntu has been great. Bye
[16:13] <dal2> through the filemanager, whether pcmanfm-qt or another such as Dolphin (Dolphin seems to work as the Ubuntu Studio's default). For reference, the hard drive in question is an ext4 file system.
[21:32] <dal2> In case user ability to access files is of relevant, I have come across the odd result that Thunar can't browse the decrypted drive but Dolphin can
[21:33] <dal2> Did everyone take an oath of science when I was not looking? :)
[21:33] <dal2> oath of *silence
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