[04:04] Hello, I filed those two pcmanfm-qt HDD encryption bugs a while back. I think I understand the problem better now and I'm wondering if anyone is around who's good with systemd-journal ownership issues [04:12] Here's that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/2017464 [04:12] -ubottu:#lubuntu- Launchpad bug 2017464 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "in pcmanfm-qt, permission denied after successful decryption" [Undecided, New] [04:13] It's weird. In some of my setups, Nautilus shows me the files in the directories, but when I try to open one, it gives me "This file does not exist" I think it has something to do with systemd-journal because ls -l shows me that the entire decrypted drive is owned by systemd-journal ... not sure if that's relevant, but maybe? [04:22] I mean "sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/external_drive" sounds a little risky to do with my entire HDD, but I could be wrong. [04:22] Be back later [14:09] Hello. If a Lubuntu live session user plugs in an unencrypted hard drive, who does "ls -l" typically show as the drive's default owner? lubutu? root? systemd-journal [14:09] ? [14:23] Hi xangua [16:09] So booting up with Ubuntu Studio 12.04, I'm able to decrypt and take possession successfully from the file manager. Then "ls -l" shows me the decrypted hard drive's files are owned by ubuntu-studio, as you'd expect [16:11] But going back to mantic Lubuntu, I'm able to decrypt successfully, but not take possession since I get "permission denied" errors as laid out in my bug report (actually two reports). When in mantic I look at the decrypted drive, it says the decrypted drive (and I presume its files; no permissions to cd) are owned by systemd-journal [16:12] Rather than risk executing "chown -R" every time I boot up, I'm now going to have to switch to a distro that allows my live session user to take possession of decrypted files through the filemanager pcmanfm-qt. Thanks, Lubuntu has been great. Bye [16:13] through the filemanager, whether pcmanfm-qt or another such as Dolphin (Dolphin seems to work as the Ubuntu Studio's default). For reference, the hard drive in question is an ext4 file system. === lyn is now known as Guest5243 === Guest5243 is now known as lynorian2 [21:32] In case user ability to access files is of relevant, I have come across the odd result that Thunar can't browse the decrypted drive but Dolphin can [21:33] Did everyone take an oath of science when I was not looking? :) [21:33] oath of *silence [22:00] [telegram] nah the vast majority of us have dayjobs or other obligations to take care of