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helmuthi. how would I get a list of ubuntu releaes that are both 1) still supported by lts or esm and 2) not merged-/usr? is trusty the oldest esm release? is disco the first release to be merged?09:59
Unit193`ubuntu-distro-info --supported-esm` says that Trusty is the oldest supported ESM release, as does https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle10:02
helmutbarring oposition, I will use trusty|utopic|vivid|wily|xenial|yakkety|zesty|artful|bionic|cosmic as list10:03
helmutthat does include some unsupported ones, but I'd rather not break them :)10:03
juliankThat VPS reboot took a while; iot was affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/203635813:28
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036358 in systemd (Ubuntu Lunar) "systemd wait-online now times out after jammy and lunar upgrade" [Critical, Fix Committed]13:28
juliank:D13:29
ueberallHi. What exactly does "* Merge with Debian; remaining changes: /- Build from upstream sources." mean for packages with an "ubuntuN" suffix if there is no other list item?13:55
ginggsueberall: which package?  but my guess is the Debian package is built from DFSG source, ecluding documentation, and the Ubuntu package is built from upstream's source14:04
ueberallginggs: For example gcc (multiple versions in the past, picked this randomly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-13/13.1.0-1ubuntu1 -- if you compare this to 13.1.0-1 for Debian Sid, just the topmost stanza differs w.r.t. the description)14:11
ginggsueberall: yes, Debian does not consider the GNU Free Documentation License free enough to meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines14:16
ginggsso Debian's gcc-13 source does not include upstream's documentation, but Ubuntu's does14:17
ueberallginggs: Ah, I see. That explains it. Thanks!14:18
ginggsueberall: yw!14:18

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