[09:59] <helmut> hi. how would I get a list of ubuntu releaes that are both 1) still supported by lts or esm and 2) not merged-/usr? is trusty the oldest esm release? is disco the first release to be merged?
[10:02] <Unit193> `ubuntu-distro-info --supported-esm` says that Trusty is the oldest supported ESM release, as does https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[10:03] <helmut> barring oposition, I will use trusty|utopic|vivid|wily|xenial|yakkety|zesty|artful|bionic|cosmic as list
[10:03] <helmut> that does include some unsupported ones, but I'd rather not break them :)
[13:28] <juliank> That VPS reboot took a while; iot was affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/2036358
[13:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036358 in systemd (Ubuntu Lunar) "systemd wait-online now times out after jammy and lunar upgrade" [Critical, Fix Committed]
[13:29] <juliank> :D
[13:55] <ueberall> Hi. What exactly does "* Merge with Debian; remaining changes: /- Build from upstream sources." mean for packages with an "ubuntuN" suffix if there is no other list item?
[14:04] <ginggs> ueberall: which package?  but my guess is the Debian package is built from DFSG source, ecluding documentation, and the Ubuntu package is built from upstream's source
[14:11] <ueberall> ginggs: For example gcc (multiple versions in the past, picked this randomly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-13/13.1.0-1ubuntu1 -- if you compare this to 13.1.0-1 for Debian Sid, just the topmost stanza differs w.r.t. the description)
[14:16] <ginggs> ueberall: yes, Debian does not consider the GNU Free Documentation License free enough to meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines
[14:17] <ginggs> so Debian's gcc-13 source does not include upstream's documentation, but Ubuntu's does
[14:18] <ueberall> ginggs: Ah, I see. That explains it. Thanks!
[14:18] <ginggs> ueberall: yw!