| guiverc | vorlon (#ubuntu-release) asked about https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036999 being flagged for/by us; I don't have a wifi-internet install handy to see (overwritten by last without internet); anyone around with details? our 'final' image isn't on iso.qa I think b/c of this | 12:57 |
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| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2036999 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: Wifi password not copied to new install" [High, Fix Released] | 12:57 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Reading the bug, it specifically states Ubiquity. Why did we flag it? | 13:03 |
| guiverc | to my knowledge we did not. vorlon asked tsimonq2 (no answer yet) if we were asked about it | 13:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I don't know that we were. | 13:06 |
| guiverc | I can't recall if wifi was working AFTER-first-boot on new wifi-enabled install; my last install on wifi device was without internet.. so I don't have a wifi enabled mantic to check | 13:06 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I can run through a test in a little bit | 13:06 |
| guiverc | y | 13:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I will need to download a daily so it will be a few | 13:07 |
| * guiverc that was intended for the mkusb window | 13:07 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> 👍 | 13:07 |
| guiverc | thanks kc2bez , i'm writing iso now, but I really wanna go to bed .. | 13:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I just got up. I need some coffee while I download stuff. | 13:08 |
| guiverc | if a problem though, i'm writing current daily... (i'm gonna go clean teeth & other usual stuff.. so can do it in the background) | 13:08 |
| kc2bez | slow downloads are slow | 13:18 |
| guiverc | my zsync was >90% complete at start.. thus still on slow-write-to media (though that's mostly done anyway) | 13:24 |
| kc2bez | Weird mine aborted at the end, I had to start it up again and it finished almost immediately. | 13:28 |
| kc2bez | Writing to disk now | 13:28 |
| guiverc | i've just ejected thumb-drive & booting on sony thingy kc2bez | 13:29 |
| kc2bez | Booting on my Asus thingy | 13:34 |
| guiverc | :) | 13:34 |
| * guiverc hopes your thingy has full size keyboard & larger screen than this one | 13:35 | |
| kc2bez | It actually isn't bad. No 10 key on the side so the remainder isn't squished. | 13:37 |
| kc2bez | Rebooting | 13:40 |
| guiverc | my think is still at initramfs... of install | 13:41 |
| kc2bez | Yup, no wireless. | 13:41 |
| kc2bez | :( | 13:41 |
| guiverc | yeah :( but to me that's not a huge issue; we should only install once, so twice entering a wifi key ain't that bad ... | 13:42 |
| kc2bez | I agree. It is Simon's call but I don't think it should be a release blocker. We need to get it in the release notes though. | 13:44 |
| guiverc | finally rebooted mine & can confirm I have no internet wifi password on first boot.. | 13:45 |
| guiverc | thanks kc2bez ! | 13:52 |
| kc2bez | Thanks to you as well! | 13:53 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Caught me at a good spot to send vorlon a response with a fix ;) | 14:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Sometimes I don't know how we'd do it without you my friend :) | 14:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Kay, here's my thoughts on RC blocker: yes. It's a regression from the last release and the solution is already easy and known. | 14:10 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> fyi we are in final freeze and release is this week so we need to *fix it* if its a regression | 14:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> just sayin | 14:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> NSS (re @teward001: fyi we are in final freeze and release is this week so we need to *fix it* if its a regression) | 14:26 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> ;) | 14:26 |
| kc2bez | Just so I am clear, we know what the fix is? Or we know what the workaround is? I am feeling a little dense on the actual fix. | 14:38 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'll respond on -release as soon as I walk in the building here, but I read the Ubiquity fix and we just need to DTRT WRT netplan files. Might need a little tweaking due to, well, using Netplan, but overall I think I can fix that today | 14:40 |
| tsimonq2 | I have some local code that, er, *seems* sane enough. I'm going to Frankenstein an install into a qcow2 file (or similar) from a live ISO on my real hardware to test this and see what's up. | 15:19 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (mantic-proposed/universe) [23.10.3 => 23.10.4] (lubuntu) | 16:22 | |
| tsimonq2 | ^ That upload sets the wallpaper to per-monitor by default. I ran into it when doing my local testing. | 16:22 |
| tsimonq2 | I couldn't get the live ISO to do what I wanted it to, so I have a VM with some static IP settings that have essentially the same effect. | 16:27 |
| tsimonq2 | calamares upload incoming with fixes. | 16:42 |
| tsimonq2 | @teward001 ^ yes, fixes, actual fixes :P | 16:43 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (mantic-proposed/universe) [3.3.0-alpha2-0ubuntu5 => 3.3.0-alpha2-0ubuntu6] (lubuntu, ubuntustudio) | 16:43 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Er... no it doesn't | 16:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> | 16:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lubuntu-team/calamares-settings-ubuntu/blob/ubuntu/mantic/common/modules/automirror/automirror.conf#L10 (re @kc2bez: guiverc: That ^ uses https://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup now. If for some reason that was down you would get New York. That is the fallback default location.) | 16:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Might be able to squeeze in a fix for that, too. | 16:47 |
| kc2bez | Automirror needs a refactor to parse xml vs json | 16:48 |
| tsimonq2 | On it. | 16:48 |
| kc2bez | okie dokie | 16:48 |
| kc2bez | it probably should remove the "partners" section too, that is defunct as well. It has always been commented out so I sort of forgot about it. | 16:50 |
| kc2bez | https://github.com/lubuntu-team/calamares-settings-ubuntu/blob/ubuntu/mantic/common/modules/automirror/main.py#L79 | 16:50 |
| tsimonq2 | 10-4 | 16:50 |
| kc2bez | Thanks tsimonq2 ! | 16:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Of course. Tested and uploaded to the archive. | 17:20 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (mantic-proposed/universe) [1:23.10.3 => 1:23.10.4] (lubuntu, ubuntustudio) | 17:21 | |
| tsimonq2 | kc2bez: ^^ | 17:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> (in -release) 17:21 < tsimonq2> To be clear, at this point Lubuntu has three uploads I'd really like in (or at the very least reviewed) before final. Those are lubuntu-default-settings, calamares, and calamares-settings-ubuntu. | 17:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> TBF the welcome module does use the Ubuntu geoip which is where the timezone in the installer comes from. (re @tsimonq2: Er... no it doesn't | 17:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> | 17:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> https://github.com/lubuntu-team/calamares-settings-ubuntu/blob/ubuntu/mantic/common/modules/automirror/automirror.conf#L10) | 17:23 |
| Eickmeyer | 🔧 ➡️ ⚙️ | 17:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Eventually (probably next cycle) we'll remove that duplication. (re @kc2bez: TBF the welcome module does use the Ubuntu geoip which is where the timezone in the installer comes from.) | 17:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Sounds good | 17:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Eickmeyer: 😎😎😎😎😎😎 | 17:24 |
| Eickmeyer | 😂 | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 🥷🥷🥷🥷 | 17:24 |
| Eickmeyer | I think you misunderstood my emojis. That was a wrench into cogs. | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Ahhhh, we both know there's no such thing 'round these here parts. | 17:25 |
| Eickmeyer | "Riiiiiight." -Kronk | 17:26 |
| tsimonq2 | I think we're set for this cycle, in terms of bugs. If anyone finds something, ping me please :) | 17:26 |
| Eickmeyer | 😎 | 17:27 |
| * tsimonq2 watches in horror as Eickmeyer breaks the entire archive on release day | 17:27 | |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 17:27 |
| Eickmeyer | That depends on if the kernel behaves with USB Midi devices (spoiler: it wasn't earlier). | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Bahaha, oooof. | 17:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, at first sight of a new codename, ping me immediately and we'll get rolling ;) | 17:28 |
| Eickmeyer | A new version just hit release, so there will be testing when I get home. | 17:28 |
| * tsimonq2 throws broken s390x and riscv64 builds at Eickmeyer | 17:29 | |
| * lubot [matrix] <arraybolt3> shoves an s390x mainframe into tsimonq2's living room | 17:40 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.4] | 21:45 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *shoves an arraybolt3 into tsimonq2's living room* | 21:52 |
| Eickmeyer | Tested the kernel with the bug I was experienced before, passed with flying colors. | 21:58 |
| Eickmeyer | s/experienced/experiencing | 21:59 |
| lubot | [telegram] <guiverc> the location issue is only not-detected occasionally. (re @tsimonq2: Might be able to squeeze in a fix for that, too.) | 23:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Simon's fixes got accepted. We should have something to test later. | 23:10 |
| guiverc | ack & thanks kc2bez | 23:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> FWIW... here's the way I tested these things so you guys have a better chance at reproducing them | 23:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Default settings needs a multi monitor setup. You can emulate one with QEMU, or use a real one. Before the upload, the wallpaper should stretch over both screens, after the upload the wallpaper should be specific per-screen. | 23:23 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> (I think we should also change the wallpaper to not stretch so weirdly in VMs but that's another topic) | 23:24 |
| kc2bez | I can test the multimonitor thing with my laptop | 23:24 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> With Calamares, it's not limited to WiFi passwords. Configure a static IP in Advanced Network Settings, verify a file shows up in /etc/netplan/90-NM*. Cala is simply making sure that file ends up on the installed system. | 23:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Thanks Dan! | 23:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> With Cala settings, I used sudo iftop to monitor network usage closely during the install. Verify that it only hits Canonical servers and sets up the right sources.list on reboot | 23:26 |
| kc2bez | Thanks to you as well! | 23:26 |
| guiverc | fyi: i use many multi-desktops in live testing; and dc7700 is used for install testing & is multi-monitor (on occasion I install test on other boxes; d780 also two monitors) The mantic wallpaper works for me in my testing (in fact I love it especially on one multi-monitor system though it has different size monitors but colors just work so well there) | 23:26 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> No worries :) | 23:26 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> guiverc: It may work but does it scale weird by default? :) | 23:28 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'm thinking those three packages were accepted right around a Britney run. Default settings got picked up, the rest are waiting on the next run (or even one following that for autopkgtests) | 23:30 |
| kc2bez | I'm watching | 23:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> 🍿 | 23:31 |
| guiverc | my hpdc7700, dell.780 use an old dell 4:3 monitor & 16:10 which have very different DPI as well as proportions, the mantic wallpaper just looked great on that (esp. dc7700, as d780 swaps left & right around by default due connection) | 23:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Yeah my laptop does that too... how far did we get with diagnosing random monitor swaps between SDDM and the desktop? | 23:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> That might be an @arraybolt3 question ;) ^^ | 23:32 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> I actually never experienced that problem so I can't be of much help there. | 23:32 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Ah, got it. Thanks anyway man :) | 23:33 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> I didn't do much but glad to at least try to help :P | 23:33 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> (I was sitting here watching the conversation while doing other work) | 23:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> This next cycle I also want to solve one of my biggest pet peeves... QTerminal text autowrapping. If you open a small terminal window, run sudo apt update, then resize it to be bigger, you know what I'm talking about | 23:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> @arraybolt3 I often do the same ;) | 23:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> I am doing the same (re @lubuntu_bot: (matrix) <arraybolt3> (I was sitting here watching the conversation while doing other work)) | 23:35 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I asked the KDE President (who I'm sure @Eickmeyer also met) in person about that issue, and he said "meh, don't fork Konsole, use it as-is" well thanks :/ (re @tsimonq2: This next cycle I also want to solve one of my biggest pet peeves... QTerminal text autowrapping. If you open a small terminal window, run sudo apt update, then resize it to be bigger, you know what I'm talking about) | 23:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> I'm always in the shadows (re @tsimonq2: @arraybolt3 I often do the same ;)) | 23:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> XD | 23:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'd argue you're even less in the shadows than we are ;) | 23:36 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Let us just take a moment to recognize | 23:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu's español channel on Telegram has FOUR HUNDRED MEMBERS! | 23:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> You and everyone else there are doing great work :) | 23:37 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Thank you for helping manage one of our biggest groups | 23:38 |
| kc2bez | It is busy over there, I can confirm. | 23:38 |
| kc2bez | It is great to see | 23:38 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> Jajajaja, yes. It's a good amount of people. (re @tsimonq2: Lubuntu's español channel on Telegram has FOUR HUNDRED MEMBERS!) | 23:39 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I'll bring that up to Phillip in person... we created these almost-LOCOs for Lubuntu users, but e.g. I've had requests from Ubuntu-IT to consolidate :) | 23:40 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> It's always a pleasure (re @tsimonq2: Thank you for helping manage one of our biggest groups) | 23:40 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> The Spanish group is pretty darn untouchable :) | 23:40 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Roberalz: I really enjoyed getting to help in the Spanish IRC channel every so often back when I was there. Hopefully I'll get to do it again once I can come back :) | 23:43 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Yep. He helped me get the variables set for Ubuntu Studio so that the theming could be used in both Wayland and X11 without breakage. (re @tsimonq2: I asked the KDE President (who I'm sure @Eickmeyer also met) in person about that issue, and he said "meh, don't fork Konsole, use it as-is" well thanks :/) | 23:45 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Took a bit of coding gymnastics further than what we did, but it started the process. | 23:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Roberalz> I really enjoy the friends I have here, it is always a pleasure to be with you. (re @lubuntu_bot: (matrix) <arraybolt3> Roberalz: I really enjoyed getting to help in the Spanish IRC channel every so often back when I was there. Hopefully I'll get to do it again once I can come back :)) | 23:46 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> We have a potentially large Spanish-speaking Edubuntu base that is likely to get larger with 24.04 and the RasPI images. I have someone who's going to be on the team that runs a computer lab in Mexico full of Pis that he wants running Edubuntu. | 23:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> There is even a dedicated edubuntu-es ML that I wouldn't mind him running eventually. | 23:53 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Very nice :) I hope him and friends are there again (re @Eickmeyer: Took a bit of coding gymnastics further than what we did, but it started the process.) | 23:56 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> I agree completely :) (re @Roberalz: I really enjoy the friends I have here, it is always a pleasure to be with you.) | 23:56 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Very very nice! (re @Eickmeyer: We have a potentially large Spanish-speaking Edubuntu base that is likely to get larger with 24.04 and the RasPI images. I have someone who's going to be on the team that runs a computer lab in Mexico full of Pis that he wants running Edubuntu.) | 23:56 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> The issue that I'd like to talk more in-detail about with someone like Phillipp is, a merge between Ubuntu-wide communities would be cool but it should be friendly and not a large, forced merger (re @Eickmeyer: There is even a dedicated edubuntu-es ML that I wouldn't mind him running eventually.) | 23:57 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Well, after a 9-year hiatus for Edubuntu it is only potential, but the interest is there. | 23:57 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Carpe diem :) | 23:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> No, you misunderstand. It's already a thing on l.u.c (re @tsimonq2: The issue that I'd like to talk more in-detail about with someone like Phillipp is, a merge between Ubuntu-wide communities would be cool but it should be friendly and not a large, forced merger) | 23:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> Oh? | 23:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Eickmeyer> Always has been. 🌎🔫 | 23:58 |
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