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de-facto | why is linux audio such an annoying buggy mess? | 00:53 |
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de-facto | i need to remove hdmi audio completely because both pipewire and pulseaudio wildly switch between hdmi audio and analog audio | 00:54 |
de-facto | i just want one audio sink that works stable at constant volume, nothing else | 00:54 |
de-facto | it just never worked ever | 00:54 |
de-facto | how can i remove all hdmi audio sinks permanently? | 00:55 |
rbox | is your hdmi audio provided by the same or a different driver than your non hdmi audio? | 00:57 |
de-facto | i think its a different kernel module | 00:57 |
rbox | then blacklist the one doing the hdmi | 00:57 |
de-facto | but i need hdmi video output its my monitor | 00:57 |
de-facto | i did | 00:57 |
de-facto | no snd_hda_codec_hdmi but then snd_hda_codec_generic gets loaded | 01:00 |
de-facto | its a bit less buggy but still does that wild crazy flickering between output sinks on itself, many times a second | 01:00 |
tomreyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/j1jmd2/how_to_blacklist_pulseaudio_hdmi_output/ possibly? | 01:01 |
tomreyn | if you'd like to do it with pipewire you'd probably need to do it with wireplumber | 01:04 |
de-facto | i think i switched to pipewire time time ago | 01:05 |
de-facto | starting wireplumber crashes it LOL | 01:06 |
de-facto | sigh | 01:06 |
de-facto | i just dont want _ANY_ hdmi audio sink on my system at all | 01:07 |
de-facto | remove all the kernel modules for that | 01:07 |
de-facto | i dont want to do it in the audio system but on kernel module level | 01:07 |
de-facto | the audio systems are too buggy to mess with them, hence if no sink is there they cant try to use one | 01:08 |
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NewtonPumpkin | why does the terminal app, when in fullscreen, appear behind the app icon bar after standby? | 01:37 |
NewtonPumpkin | its a consistient problem on 4k xps laptops from what i can tell | 01:38 |
Probasketball | When I try to boot the ubuntu 22.04 live usb once i get past grub it just says "error blacklisting hashes" and freezes, I already tried updating the biod | 02:22 |
circle | In the past one could run "init N" to choose a runlevel, and switch between single user, multi-user, and multi-user with GUI. I think systemd has changed this, what is the current way now? | 03:26 |
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tomreyn | ^ answered in #debian (cross-post) | 03:33 |
erick | :3 | 03:47 |
erick | hamas x israel >< | 03:48 |
morgan-u2 | yo heart #ubuntu-offtopic | 04:05 |
morgan-u2 | 22.04 as of the last update the system freezes but not all. I cant restart chrome and I cant shut down or restart computer (except for the off button which I shall do in a moment and then come back) older Dell ubuntu only, 9G RAM. This is new and a bother. (see you on the flip) | 04:07 |
morgan-u2 | on return. I went away for a half hour and then more and then chrome would restart. will test for functions. | 04:46 |
morgan-u2 | I blame chrome. and something about handing memory. dont know if that is ubuntu but the last update made things bad when they were ok. A freeze is much more difficult to function with and around than the program closing and I can restart it. | 04:48 |
morgan-u2 | No questions. Just done now. Thanks. | 04:48 |
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squidles | Evening people | 06:25 |
squidles | what's everyone upto | 06:27 |
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lektor | Hello, hello, what is that authorization key ring showing with an inputbox when I launch skype ? | 07:43 |
lektor | "the login keyring did not get unlocked when you log in to this computer ", the funniest is it can be bypassed by constantly pressing ESC | 07:44 |
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Guest83 | Hello, i have connected my monitor to my ubuntu 22.04 machine. It starts up.... and i think it goes to login screen - but i cannot see anything - only gray screen. I can move mouse around and see the cursor also - so screen works fine. I think ubuntu is somehow set to use another screen or something. How do i fix this so i can use it? | 10:22 |
Guest83 | anyone here? | 10:27 |
guiverc | Guest83, I don't know the issue you're describing, but I had an install before where I altered the manner in which screens were connected meaning I missed outout from the DM.. the quick fix I used was switching to another DM (that showed the same on all monitors; connected or not) | 10:28 |
guiverc | !patience | guest83 | 10:28 |
ubottu | guest83: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 10:28 |
guiverc | People will respond as they're able to.. we have other things we need to do... | 10:28 |
Guest83 | whats a DM? | 10:28 |
guiverc | you've not said what Ubuntu 22.04; but Ubuntu 22.04 Desktop uses the GNOME-display manager (gdm3) that handles the greeter functions | 10:29 |
Guest83 | ubuntu 22.04 desktop | 10:29 |
guiverc | until you login, your desktop/session isn't running; the DM handles the greeter functions .. only after I login can my own system know if I want to login with GNOME, Xfce, LXQt etc.. that I have installed... | 10:30 |
Guest83 | if i could somehow access the screen setup because it feels like desktop extends beyond the screen | 10:30 |
Guest83 | so ubuntu somehow should be asked to calibrate to current connected screen | 10:30 |
guiverc | Ubuntu isn't running until you login; so your saved settings take effect ONLY after username/password.. as I understaod it your issue is BEFORE login, ie. when only DM is active | 10:31 |
guiverc | ^ by Ubuntu I meant Ubuntu Desktop (ie. GNOME) | 10:32 |
Guest83 | ah i fixed it | 10:32 |
Guest83 | im brillian | 10:32 |
Guest83 | t | 10:32 |
guiverc | well done guest83 | 10:33 |
billy_ | Hello | 11:04 |
lotuspsychj3 | welcome billy_ | 11:10 |
billy_ | Thank you, lotuspsychj3! | 11:14 |
billy_ | This is my first time on IRC. | 11:14 |
billy_ | Experimenting with the application here. | 11:15 |
lotuspsychj3 | this is the ubuntu support channel here billy_ you can ask questions here regarding troubles with ubuntu | 11:16 |
billy_ | Okay. While upgrading the system I get this message: The following packages have been kept back - gjs libgjs0g | 11:18 |
ravage | !phasedupdates | billy_ | 11:19 |
ubottu | billy_: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 11:19 |
ravage | short answer: ignore it and just wait until they update | 11:20 |
billy_ | Alright. Thank you, guys! | 11:20 |
ravage | or upgrade now with: sudo apt upgrade gjs libgjs0g | 11:20 |
ravage | i do that just because i cant stand it to see updates i dont have yet :) | 11:21 |
billy_ | It worked! Thank you, ravage! :) | 11:22 |
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TomawsCock | Courtney Rickett Gets Gangbanged by the Braves - The Shitty Clarinet - Courtney Rickett takes ecstasy suppositories with Edna Skilton and ends up gangbanged by the Atlanta Braves and consensually sodomized by her trusty clarinet. https://justpaste.it/Courtney_Rickett_Gangbanged | 12:09 |
jeremy31 | !ops | 12:09 |
ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 12:09 |
TomawsCock | Like a bunch of star trek nerds | 12:09 |
TomawsCock | channel emmergency | 12:09 |
TomawsCock | oh help | 12:09 |
TomawsCock | Scotty, how's she holding? | 12:10 |
dvan | hi | 12:27 |
mrjo | hi | 12:42 |
mrjo | i come here because i need support for my launchpad account | 12:43 |
mrjo | i cant connect to ubuntu one sso | 12:43 |
mrjo | and then i try the reset password fonctionnality, i never receive mail for reset | 12:43 |
mrjo | what can i do ? | 12:43 |
mrjo | this is my launchpad profile : https://launchpad.net/~mrjo | 12:45 |
p_eder | 257 345 356 7654 789 5467 5645 | 12:45 |
jeremy31 | mrjo: Did you check spam folder | 12:47 |
p_eder | cuidado com android 12 e 13, são vulneraveis a ataques quando estão na mesma rede wifi | 12:47 |
mrjo | yep, checked evrywhere | 12:47 |
jeremy31 | mrjo: contact isd-support@canonical.com | 12:48 |
mrjo | ok i will. Thanks a lot | 12:48 |
greentail | Hi. I'm not getting replies in other channels. Am having btrfs IO errors. Any help? https://0x0.st/HWRJ.txt | 14:07 |
lotuspsychj3 | greentail: we only support ubuntu and its flavours here | 14:12 |
gordonjcp | greentail: is that on Ubuntu? | 14:13 |
leftyfb | no, it's archlinux | 14:13 |
gordonjcp | leftyfb: it was a rhetorical question | 14:14 |
greentail | how are we supposed to know it was a rhetorical question? | 14:15 |
leftyfb | greentail: good luck with arch support | 14:15 |
gordonjcp | greentail: I don't even see why you think it's btrfs, but I don't use btrfs because it's broken, I don't use Arch because it's broken - Arch being broken is what prompted me to switch to Ubuntu - and I don't use Realtek hardware because it's broken | 14:15 |
gordonjcp | leftyfb: Arch's support is generally good | 14:16 |
gordonjcp | leftyfb: certainly Ubuntu has *nothing* like as good as the Arch wiki | 14:16 |
gordonjcp | no distro does | 14:16 |
greentail | gordonjcp, what do you use instead of btrfs? | 14:17 |
gordonjcp | ext4 | 14:19 |
gordonjcp | always just use ext4, unless you need zfs | 14:19 |
gordonjcp | (you don't need zfs) | 14:19 |
gordonjcp | greentail: also, as previously mentioned, I stopped using Arch because I got sick of it being broken all the time, and Ubuntu is more of a distro for very experienced linux users | 14:20 |
greentail | gordonjcp, don't most laptops come with Realtek hardware? What are laptop models that do not use Realtek? | 14:21 |
erick | linux realmente e bom >< | 14:22 |
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greentail | ericsysmin, bom para quem? | 14:24 |
Nitrigaur | !pt | greentail | 14:25 |
ubottu | greentail: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 14:25 |
itu | if i accidently close a tab in gnome-terminal i get no confirmation request? i'm sure i got a confirmation request until recently, but not now | 14:46 |
itu | how to regain? | 14:47 |
jeremy31 | itu: I think you only get a confirmation if a process is running in terminal | 14:48 |
itu | hmm | 14:48 |
leftyfb | itu: there is no "confirmation request" when closing a tab in gnome-terminal | 14:48 |
jeremy31 | itu: try running "dmesg -w" and try closing it | 14:48 |
jeremy31 | sudo dmesg -w | 14:48 |
leftyfb | ah, there is if you have a running process | 14:49 |
itu | ok .. but without confirmation request it really hard to work with gnome-terminal | 14:51 |
jeremy31 | itu: maybe https://askubuntu.com/a/895073/ | 14:53 |
itu | thx ... *reading* | 14:54 |
gordonjcp | urgh, video editing in things that aren't Resolve | 14:54 |
Nitrigaur | Ubuntu 23.04, Dell Latitude 5520, when ejecting a SD card from nautilus, I get the message: "Unable to eject <Volume Name of SD Card> No Object for D-Bus Interface" | 14:56 |
itu | gsettings get org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Settings confirm-close still is true :-/ | 15:01 |
ravage | Nitrigaur: systemctl --user restart gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor | 15:01 |
ravage | Nitrigaur: further discusstion at https://askubuntu.com/questions/627621/no-object-for-d-bus-interface-when-mounting-with-nautilus | 15:02 |
* itu is still searching for a solution .. | 15:11 | |
Nitrigaur | ravage, thank you I will try this, though the error message is similar, I have no issues mounting, only *un*-mounting | 15:15 |
Nitrigaur | ravage, I tried the sensible options (restarting udisks2.service for instance), but none of these helped. The discussion is rather old and Ubuntu has changed quite a bit since then. gvfsd works correctly when inserting USB sticks, it's just the internal SD card slot that does not eject properly. | 15:31 |
Nitrigaur | ravage, I believe the issue I'm running into is more closely related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1966203 My system probably thinks that the SD card is an (un-ejectable) SSD, the SD-card is listed internally as /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 15:53 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1966203 in snapd "journal shows 'systemd-udevd[2837]: nvme0n1: Process ... failed with exit code 1.'" [High, Confirmed] | 15:53 | |
Nitrigaur | ravage, another entry on askubuntu seems to be related as well: https://askubuntu.com/questions/872183/sd-card-reader-error with one "minor" caveat: This reader device is built-in to my laptop. I cannot switch it out for another one. | 15:54 |
fatih | Cenk naber abi, buralarda gormek isteriz | 15:55 |
Nitrigaur | !tr | fatih | 15:59 |
ubottu | fatih: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. | 15:59 |
Nitrigaur | #ravage, thank you, I have to cook now. | 15:59 |
ApostleInTriumph | Hello. Since upgrading to ubuntu 22.04, i'm unable to open files on SFTP via 3rd party apps. inbuilt app works perfectly well for the same task. for eg. i can open .py file using gedit but no vscode. Similar happens for other file types. Lastly, all works well for local files | 16:14 |
ApostleInTriumph | I am suspecting it's due to gvfs mount. it used to exist in 20.04 but is absent in 22.04. what are my options? | 16:22 |
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alkisg | ApostleInTriumph: check /run/user/$UID/gvfs. If there's an old plugin that doesn't support that path, try to symlink it | 16:33 |
fweht | any idea what this error means (ubuntu 23.10) and how i can get my firmware updated? https://i.imgur.com/FFoDYUP.png | 16:33 |
JanC | ApostleInTriumph: gvfs is still there; you can use "gio mount" to do gvfs mounts from the commandline (if you need that) | 16:50 |
JanC | ApostleInTriumph: did you change the way you install vscode? | 16:50 |
ApostleInTriumph | JanC no, I actually dumped SFTP and shifted to SSHFS | 16:59 |
ApostleInTriumph | it's too painful to try and understand this than choosing SSHFS | 16:59 |
JanC | do you have gvfs-fuse installed? | 17:00 |
ApostleInTriumph | yep | 17:01 |
ApostleInTriumph | Btw, i'm unable to install `python-vtk` on 22.04 | 17:01 |
ApostleInTriumph | I get the error | 17:01 |
ApostleInTriumph | `E: Unable to locate package python-vtk` | 17:01 |
JanC | you need python3-vtk | 17:02 |
ApostleInTriumph | E: Unable to locate package python3-vtk | 17:02 |
JanC | python3-vtk7 or python3-vtk9 apparently | 17:03 |
JanC | depending on what version you want/need | 17:03 |
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gotyaman | Richard Simmons' Seclusion Story - A Royal Canadian Secret Agent Pedo Sting | 18:15 |
gotyaman | Richard's Simmons current seclusion is explained telling the story of his trying to meet up with an 11 year-old African refugee child for a kale and cottage cheese enema and sex! | 18:15 |
gotyaman | https://justpaste.it/Richard_Simmons_Pedo_Sting_Bust | 18:15 |
Nitrigaur | Ubuntu 23.04, Dell Latitude 23.04 When inserting a SD-card into my internal reader, Nautilus shows an eject option which results in "Unable to eject <SD-Card Volume Name> No Object for D-Bus Interface" | 18:33 |
Nitrigaur | How can I configure my system so that the SD-card reader is not recognised as an ejectable device, or tp cause the eject function to merely umount the volume, rather than trying to eject it's parent device? | 18:35 |
toddc | Nitrigaur: wait a minite or two I ususlly find that is is still reading all the files on the slow SD card then I can eject/unmount it also in terminal a sync command will retum to a prompt when it is done | 18:38 |
Nitrigaur | toddc, I tried that. This error is persistent. Here are my resulting journal entries related to this: https://pastebin.com/vqgzmSAR | 18:45 |
Nitrigaur | toddc, as you can see, the umount is successful, but Nautilus also tries to cut power to the parent device as if it were a simple USB-stick SD-card reader. | 18:46 |
Nitrigaur | toddc, I would like to configure either Nautilus or udev to treat the parent device as un-ejectable and only process a umount, without the eject command (that throws an exception). There is no unmount/ umount option within Nautilus when this device has a SD-card inserted into it. | 18:49 |
Nitrigaur | toddc, I have redacted my own username to "username" in the journal entries, but left the rest as is. | 18:50 |
mozambique | did anyonew saw Hellon | 18:59 |
mozambique | or Sergei and Larry | 18:59 |
elias_a | What is the easiest way of finding .txt files modified during last 2 months? | 20:15 |
Habbie | the 'find' shell command is what i would use | 20:16 |
Habbie | i'd have to read the manual page to write the exact command though | 20:16 |
elias_a | Habbie: I have been using find but never with an "accessed during last x days" argument. | 20:17 |
elias_a | I'll try to find the answer | 20:17 |
Habbie | 'mtime' is the keyword i think | 20:17 |
elias_a | Habbie: TY | 20:17 |
Habbie | or ctime, i always mix those up | 20:17 |
Habbie | but i checked and it's definitely one of those two | 20:17 |
causative_ | -mtime +60 | 20:17 |
Habbie | ah | 20:18 |
Habbie | -60 i think | 20:18 |
elias_a | TY again :) You guys are beatiful and rock! | 20:18 |
Habbie | yes, -60 | 20:18 |
Habbie | -62 perhaps ;) | 20:18 |
causative_ | no need to support non-standard months | 20:19 |
Habbie | what's a standard month? :) | 20:19 |
causative_ | september | 20:19 |
jeremy31 | 30.41 days | 20:19 |
Habbie | my bank uses 28 | 20:19 |
Habbie | jeremy31, 30.42 surely | 20:20 |
elias_a | Habbie: Perhaps time to change bank? :D | 20:20 |
Habbie | elias_a, all banks here do | 20:20 |
Habbie | it's fine :) | 20:20 |
elias_a | Habbie: Where is that? :O | 20:20 |
Habbie | .nl | 20:20 |
Habbie | but you don't even notice until you get a reason to calculate interest per day | 20:20 |
Habbie | like with a mortgage | 20:20 |
Habbie | however, i apologise, we're going wildly off topic onw | 20:21 |
elias_a | Funny. Have to dig that a bit. Thanks again! | 20:21 |
Habbie | np :) | 20:21 |
Guest52 | Hi. my | 20:34 |
Guest52 | my ubuntu 22.04.3 only works in safe mode i got an nvidia 3060 and works fine with ubuntu 22.04.2 . any ideas way this is happening or how to solve? | 20:39 |
gmachine24 | Hello. Running Ubuntu Server 22.04.3 LTS had it unplugged for ~ 2 months - now it's back up and running but I get this long page of errors on the screen which you can view here https://imgur.com/a/lXSoRpk | 20:47 |
gmachine24 | everything seems to work OK - I updated everything and the errors persist | 20:48 |
Habbie | gmachine24, i'm sorry i don't have more words, but check SMART status of your drive. smartmontools/smartctl is nice | 20:48 |
jeremy31 | gmachine24: might want to back it up, might be drive failure coming | 20:48 |
Habbie | yeah | 20:48 |
gmachine24 | There are four drives an SSD for the OS and three data drives | 20:48 |
Habbie | definitely back up soon | 20:49 |
gmachine24 | everything is backed up to 2 external sources | 20:49 |
Habbie | very good | 20:49 |
Habbie | then investigate without panic | 20:49 |
gmachine24 | I was thinking of punting and just reinstalling the OS | 20:49 |
Habbie | this doesn't smell like something a reinstall will fix | 20:49 |
Habbie | (-besides- this situation, few things are fixed by reinstalling Ubuntu) | 20:49 |
gmachine24 | so all that jibberish basically means the drive is likely failing? | 20:50 |
Habbie | it might, yes | 20:51 |
Habbie | SMART can likely tell you more | 20:51 |
jeremy31 | gmachine24: in terminal> sudo dmesg | grep ata2 | 20:51 |
Habbie | it can also mean the cable is bad | 20:51 |
jeremy31 | see what drive it might be | 20:51 |
Habbie | or a few other things | 20:51 |
Habbie | but usually, failure is coming | 20:51 |
gmachine24 | ok jeremy31 hang on | 20:52 |
jeremy31 | Might be worth cleaning connectors on cable and drive | 20:54 |
Habbie | after checking smart :) | 20:54 |
gmachine24 | ok I can do those things this is part of the output of the dmesg command https://pastebin.com/Ckt1P3GV | 20:59 |
gmachine24 | .. interface fatal error... /dies | 21:00 |
gmachine24 | I'm going to shut it down and clean the connectors - I'm chatting on a different computer so I shall remain here | 21:00 |
gmachine24 | I'll be back. Thank you all. | 21:20 |
cluelessperson | Ubuntu seems very lagged today | 21:38 |
gmachine24 | OK I'm the one with the gibberish when starting my Ubuntu Server LTS ... I ran the smartctl test and it reported no errors. | 21:55 |
gmachine24 | I'm running it again from the GSmartControl GUI just for the heck of it | 21:56 |
leftyfb | gmachine24: why do you have a GUI running on your server? | 21:58 |
cluelessperson | gmachine24, do you have a picture? | 21:58 |
cluelessperson | leftyfb, it might just be the serial/terminal | 21:58 |
cluelessperson | I've seen that before with some weird encoding set. | 21:59 |
gmachine24 | I don't have it running on my server - I removed the ssd drive and inserted it into a USB external drive - in the end I couldn't get the Ubuntu Server to boot into anything other than emergency or whatever that is called | 22:00 |
gmachine24 | I ran the test from a Fedora desktop | 22:00 |
gmachine24 | cluelessperson what do you want a picture of | 22:01 |
leftyfb | gmachine24: the errors mean you have an issue with your storage device | 22:01 |
cluelessperson | gmachine24, the "gibberish" | 22:02 |
cluelessperson | where it occurs | 22:02 |
cluelessperson | where it comes out | 22:02 |
leftyfb | gmachine24: it could be a bad drive, cable, connector or the motherboard. Or in the case of trying to run hard drive off a usb port on a raspberry pi, not enough power | 22:02 |
cluelessperson | if there are other non-gibberish messages around it | 22:02 |
gmachine24 | cluelessperson you weren't here when I posted all that stuff this is an image I shared https://imgur.com/eEUjzZO | 22:03 |
JanC | that's not gibberish :) | 22:04 |
gmachine24 | I d/c all the data drives and booted the computer and got all the same errors so I guess the problems are with the SSD drives which has the OS or its connectors etc | 22:04 |
gmachine24 | touche JanC sadly it is to me | 22:04 |
cluelessperson | gmachine24, that's far from gibberish, that seems to indicate communication errors with a specific disk or bus. | 22:07 |
cluelessperson | your goal is to identify which, move that disk around, switch out cables to nuderstand which is the problem | 22:08 |
gmachine24 | yes that seems to be the consensus cluelessperson - but I thank you | 22:08 |
JanC | it's SATA command errors; reasons can be many, from faulty hardware (SATA controller, cables, on-disk controller) to lack of power (not just for USB disks; if you put too much hardware in a computer with a too weak power supply that can happen too) | 22:08 |
cluelessperson | gmachine24, I was expecting malformed ascii or crazy symbols. | 22:10 |
gmachine24 | this is the output from the smartctl test https://pastebin.com/xcQNx1RK | 22:10 |
gmachine24 | I think the p/s is fine this computer was fine until I took it off line to clean out my office. My best guess is the data cables which I can replace. | 22:12 |
gmachine24 | I will try these things and let you know how it goes. Thank you all for your time and input. | 22:13 |
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Apachez | the initrd file in ubuntu, is that only supposed to contain the amd microcode update ? | 22:58 |
rbox | Apachez: no | 23:00 |
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Yakov | need book for commands suitable for modern Ubuntu version | 23:37 |
Yakov | lacking some sorting, finding file/line management..... and shell scripting basics | 23:37 |
itu | Yakov: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=shell-scripting | 23:43 |
itu | but i do not understand the other things | 23:44 |
Yakov | Having this Classic Shell Scripting by Arnold Robbins and Nelson H. F. Beebe | need get more file management skills | visual sorting and | 23:45 |
itu | 'file management skills' ? | 23:46 |
rbox | girls only like guys with great skills | 23:47 |
itu | Yakov: do you need a basic unix-course? | 23:47 |
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