| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: I'll take a look | 05:45 |
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| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: displaycal looks like it's for calibrating your screen | 05:46 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: unless I'm finding the wrong thing | 05:46 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Yes, displaycal is for calibrating your screen, but if your screen isn't calibrated, what's the use in doing color correction on a video? | 14:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Inaccuracy begets inaccuracy. | 14:29 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: I don't care what colour the vectorscope displays as | 16:10 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Oh, that's not what I'm referring to. When you have your display showing you accurate colors, that means that whatever color you are correcting in the video is accurate too. :) | 16:11 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: yes, but I don't care about that at this stage, I know how the colours are going to look on a calibrated screen | 16:54 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: 90% of the time I'm not even looking at the footage, I'm looking at the vectorscope and waveform monitor | 16:54 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Oh, that's fair. Did you look at openshot? | 16:57 |
| torsti | hi i'm a new linux user and installed ubuntu studio. i also found a nice patchbay called catia but i don't see it in ubuntu studio. how can i install it? | 17:47 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: not yet, I am not long back in, haven't really eaten dinner yet and have just put the trainee camera grip to bed | 17:49 |
| Eickmeyer | torsti: That's not supported as it's not part of the Ubuntu repositories. | 17:49 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Sounds good. | 17:49 |
| Eickmeyer | torsti: We have Carla, which has an identical patchbay by the same developer. | 17:50 |
| torsti | Eickmeyer: ok thanks. do i install it with apt-get? | 17:50 |
| Eickmeyer | torsti: apt-get is for scripts only, I highly encourage apt. However, carla comes pre-installed on any Ubuntu Studio installation. | 17:51 |
| torsti | Eickmeyer: ah i see it now. thanks | 17:51 |
| Eickmeyer | torsti: yw | 17:51 |
| gordonjcp | I think Carla is a little newer, no? | 17:58 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Yes, and better maintained. falktx has stated he wants to sunset cadence and all of the utilities that spur from it, including catia. | 18:00 |
| Eickmeyer | Partially why he's heavily contributing to pipewire while maintaining jack2. | 18:01 |
| Eickmeyer | At least, that's how I understand it. | 18:02 |
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| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: right, openshot is broken in 22.04, which is a bit of a bummer | 18:20 |
| gordonjcp | oho, there's a snap of it | 18:24 |
| gordonjcp | ... but, it can't load files, because the file picker is broken. | 18:26 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: I think I'll just wait until I'm back home to edit | 18:41 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: It can load files if you check to see what the snap connections need, most likely "sudo snap connect openshot:removable-media" is all that's needed. | 18:42 |
| gordonjcp | o_O | 18:42 |
| gordonjcp | well, that lets me load clips, after a fashion | 19:04 |
| gordonjcp | but, it can't do anything with them | 19:04 |
| gordonjcp | you can just plonk them down on the timeline | 19:04 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Sorry, writing release notes and what-not for 23.10, eyes all over the place. | 19:39 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Check to see what other connections are needed. "sudo snap connect openshot[tab]" where [tab] is literally your tab key. | 19:40 |
| Eickmeyer | When in doubt, add them all, one by one. | 19:40 |
| gordonjcp | yeah, that's actually got it to load | 19:44 |
| gordonjcp | openshot is terrible | 19:44 |
| gordonjcp | as video editors go, it's generally handy to have a way of, you know, actually editing video | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | gordonjcp: Indeed. It used to be installed by default in Ubuntu Studio. There's a reason it isn't anymore. | 19:58 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: mmm | 19:59 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: I think the thing that immediately annoyed me about it is there's no way to preview and trim a clip, before dropping it into the timeline | 20:00 |
| gordonjcp | I mean, shit me, this is basic stuff | 20:00 |
| gordonjcp | https://gjcp.net/tiger.mp4 <- tiger at Vienna zoo, eating a chunk of goat | 20:00 |
| Eickmeyer | Let's watch the language, !guidelines still apply. | 20:01 |
| Eickmeyer | Excellent video, btw. | 20:01 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: danke, heute war ganz pishing down mit regen | 20:02 |
| Eickmeyer | And yes, I too enjoy a preview window. I went (ancient) Adobe Premiere -> Apple Final Cut -> Kdenlive | 20:02 |
| Eickmeyer | English, please. | 20:03 |
| Eickmeyer | 💀 | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: mostly I use resolve but my laptop is too potato to run it | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | How Hard Can It Be...? | 20:03 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, I wouldn't recommend doing it on a Raspberry Pi either, but people try and complain when it doesn't work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 20:04 |
| gordonjcp | you do very much need a good NVidia card | 20:05 |
| gordonjcp | this laptop has a Blender benchmark of ~4 | 20:05 |
| gordonjcp | so | 20:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Yikes. | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | Core i5-3320M, so pretty old | 20:06 |
| Eickmeyer | My main machine has an RTX 2040 and my big laptop has an RTX 2040 Mobile. | 20:06 |
| Eickmeyer | s/2040/2060 | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | yeah my main machine has a GTX1650 but I'm thinking in terms of getting a 3060 | 20:06 |
| Eickmeyer | I recommend the upgrade from GTX1650. I had a 1650 prior. | 20:07 |
| gordonjcp | which should make the Cycles renderer happy | 20:07 |
| gordonjcp | previously I edited in Resolve on a Core i5-4570 with GT1030 which was surprisingly adequate, for 1080p and nothing too Fusion-heavy | 20:07 |
| Eickmeyer | I have a small laptop that has a Gen11 Intel with Iris XE, and it's no slouch. I'm taking it to Riga to use to do an audio workshop at Ubuntu Summit. | 20:08 |
| Eickmeyer | Honestly, 2D stuff isn't too demanding if you have dedicated graphics. | 20:10 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: yeah they're okay if you don't need either 3D or GPU acceleration | 20:12 |
| gordonjcp | Eickmeyer: a lot of what Resolve does isn't 3Dish GPU but more "lots of fast maths for compositing" GPU | 20:12 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, that makes sense. When you've layered stuff on top, such as compositing or adjusting, that'll kick it into high gear. I remember the days when I'd have to wait *forever* to render mere preview frames after I've made adjustments. | 20:13 |
| Eickmeyer | Also Resolve is GPU-optimized so it's really looking for those Cuda cores. | 20:15 |
| gordonjcp | yup | 20:22 |
| gordonjcp | it works with AMD, but people have weird intractable problems | 20:23 |
| gordonjcp | also I feel like Windows is kind of the "poor relation" in Resolve | 20:23 |
| gordonjcp | it's got H.264 but that's, uhm | 20:23 |
| gordonjcp | yeah you would want to just output to DNxHR and use ffmpeg | 20:23 |
| Eickmeyer | What's funny is BlackMagic Design actually sells (used to sell?) dedicated machines running Resolve, and it ran CentOS under-the-hood. | 20:24 |
| gordonjcp | anecdotally, on the same Core i7 and GT1650, it was unbelievably slow and crashy with the smae footage and everything | 20:24 |
| gordonjcp | yeah they recommend you use their respin of Rocky 8.6 | 20:24 |
| Eickmeyer | Yep, that makes sense. | 20:24 |
| gordonjcp | in which everything Just Plain Works | 20:24 |
| Eickmeyer | (tm) | 20:25 |
| gordonjcp | even ffpmeg is built with BMD Desktop Video support, so my Intensity Pro works straight away | 20:25 |
| gordonjcp | it's hard to fault it | 20:25 |
| gordonjcp | so I will anyway, I don't like the pure Gnome desktop | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | I mean, I can't do that, for obvious reasons. Though, the team I used to work for has had amazing luck with it on Kubuntu. | 20:25 |
| gordonjcp | yeah | 20:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Which, technically, shouldn't differ from Ubuntu Studio in practice. | 20:26 |
| gordonjcp | it works well out of the box, although I run it in a Docker container where it lives happily in Rocky 8.6 land | 20:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, that's nice. | 20:26 |
| gordonjcp | it is | 20:26 |
| gordonjcp | only thing is, you need a "bare metal" install to update devices | 20:26 |
| gordonjcp | no real hardship there | 20:26 |
| gordonjcp | even running it in a container mitigates against a weird Resolve bug regarding font paths | 20:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Huh. Interesting. | 20:30 |
| gordonjcp | yeah, I don't know what it is, "Text" effects seem to use a different set of rules to "Text+" | 20:35 |
| gordonjcp | which again is different to Text+ in the Fusion tab | 20:35 |
| gordonjcp | because it's all pretty wildly inconsistent | 20:35 |
| Eickmeyer | 🤔 | 20:37 |
| Eickmeyer | ❓ | 20:37 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, no idea what to say to that. | 20:37 |
| gordonjcp | yeah, it's probably a bug | 20:42 |
| gordonjcp | Fusion is really a separate app that's been grafted onto Resolve | 20:42 |
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