| Guest23 | Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza | 00:59 |
|---|---|---|
| Guest23 | Garfield, Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza have an orgy over lasagna! https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton | 00:59 |
| Guest23 | Does anyone else jack off over Garfield? | 01:01 |
| gry | I've got no idea about who or what that is. Would you mind limiting your inquiries to be only about Ubuntu support and nothing else? (For other topics, the #ubuntu-offtopic channel may be more knowledgeable than I.) | 01:02 |
| tomreyn | a ban evading spam bot harassing the network, please try to ignore it. | 01:04 |
| sqilton | Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza | 01:47 |
| sqilton | Garfield, Nermal, a N11gger with a 12 inch penis, and his wife all have a hot orgy over lasagna! https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton | 01:47 |
| === deepSleep is now known as Guest1181 | ||
| mybalzitch | tomreyn: sigh. ping. | 01:49 |
| mybalzitch | nevermind | 01:49 |
| Eickmeyer | Those scripts don't usually last long. | 01:49 |
| blahboybaz | Is there any way to tell if `.tar.gz` completed successfully? I had to leave it overnight and I don't know if if completed properly. | 01:55 |
| mybalzitch | blahboybaz: echo $? as the next command in the shell that ran it | 01:56 |
| === Rahoul7 is now known as Rahoul | ||
| blahboybaz | mybalzitch: I'm not sure I grep what you are suggesting (I'm sorry) | 02:00 |
| mybalzitch | echo $? will show you the exit status of the process that was last run, if its 0 it completed successfully, if its not 0 there was an error | 02:01 |
| blahboybaz | mybalzitch: It is 2 | 02:01 |
| Eickmeyer | That means the download was unsuccessful. | 02:02 |
| blahboybaz | I kinda thought it did not complete successfully. And I'm getting a disc space warning. So I'm trying to figure that out. I thought I have a 2 tb disc with like 275 ish gb used. If I made a tar.gz archive of /home and a couple other small dirs it should not total out to more than double 275 which would be considerably less than 2 tb. | 02:03 |
| Eickmeyer | That depends on how much of /home is compressed already, but your theory seems sound. | 02:04 |
| Eickmeyer | It also depends on how much of the partition is actually taking the entire 2TB. | 02:05 |
| blahboybaz | Eickmeyer: Yeah, I guess I was wrong. It looks like my disc is only 474 MiB | 02:06 |
| blahboybaz | Sooo.. I guess I'm in that sitch again where I don't have enough space to make a backup. | 02:06 |
| blahboybaz | Maybe have to go through and cull some stuff I don't need | 02:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Sounds like it, unless you have an external drive somewhere. | 02:07 |
| blahboybaz | Eickmeyer: I wish | 02:09 |
| edde | someone in there? | 03:09 |
| === zofrex2 is now known as zofrex | ||
| blahboybaz | Is there any way to restart a failed creation of .tar.gz ? | 05:31 |
| blahboybaz | Or do I have to start over from the beginning? | 05:31 |
| Your_Dog | man i was worried that i have to install ubuntu 23.04 or kde neon to get the later version of kde but thank God Kubuntu backports exist <3 | 06:21 |
| Bobrolak | Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous | 06:59 |
| ivs | defrswsgh | 07:20 |
| ivs | hi | 07:20 |
| ivs | ~~ | 07:20 |
| ivs | what is this?? chat? | 07:21 |
| Bobrolak | @ivs: yes, Internet Relay Chat, surprised? | 07:24 |
| zzarr | Hello! I wish to grow/enlarge a disk image, how do I do this without changing the current contents of the disk? | 07:29 |
| blahboybaz | Is there any way to absolutely keep Ubuntu 20.04 from hibernating or sleeping or any such thing by any name? It seems I have configured the settings to not do that in the past but it still did. I'm uploading a MASSIVE file to google drive and its late (sleepy time) - I need to make sure that upload doesn't get interrupted by such things. | 08:03 |
| nteodosio | Are you using Xorg? | 08:14 |
| === PowaBanga_ is now known as PowaBanga | ||
| nteodosio | blahboybaz, if yes the brute force method is 'while sleep 30; do xdotool mousemove $((i++%10)) 1; done'. Good old Xorg days. :) | 08:31 |
| illiacunningham | hi guys | 09:07 |
| illiacunningham | goodmorning | 09:10 |
| === esv_ is now known as esv | ||
| lampsok | XDCC SEND #737220 | 10:44 |
| holzkopf | CVE-2023-38545 <- does ubuntu ignore this? | 11:01 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-38545> | 11:01 | |
| ubuntu | Hello | 11:28 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Guest5082 | ||
| Guest5082 | Hi | 11:28 |
| Guest5082 | Hello | 11:29 |
| Guest5082 | I have some query. Can I ask | 11:30 |
| Guest5082 | ?? | 11:31 |
| Guest5082 | Hello Redon3 | 11:32 |
| redon3 | hi | 11:32 |
| Guest5082 | I have a query regarding ubuntu subscription ? | 11:33 |
| guiverc | Ubuntu subscription? It's best if you just ask your question Guest5082, people will answer as/when they're able to. | 11:39 |
| Guest5082 | Hi | 11:40 |
| Guest5082 | We have a ubuntu vm in our infra. we need to buy service support for this | 11:42 |
| guiverc | If you're talking about a Canonical provided service, you're best speaking with Canonical, not the Ubuntu community. | 11:42 |
| Guest5082 | Please suggest how to talk with cani=onical | 11:43 |
| Guest5082 | *canonical | 11:43 |
| guiverc | I would firstly look at what part of the company you want to speak to, looking online this appears https://canonical.com/contact-us , but the best place to ask depends on where in the company the required service relates | 11:44 |
| guiverc | Sorry I'm a community member & am not affiliated with Canonical in any way (as the majority of people in this room will be, yes some work for Canonical but most are not) | 11:46 |
| tr4in33 | hello | 12:05 |
| tr4in33 | world | 12:05 |
| eth5 | Good morning | 12:41 |
| ComputerTech | o/ | 12:41 |
| sotaoverride | anyone know where I can get the .deb file for Microsoft Teams at? | 12:53 |
| sotaoverride | keep getting 404s when I try the pages I find on google | 12:54 |
| ravage | sotaoverride: not supported here but look at teamsforlinux.de | 12:54 |
| dTal | Is there some reason for finding a native version instead of just using the web interfac? | 12:54 |
| ravage | full disclosure: thats my website. but not my software. github is linked there | 12:54 |
| sotaoverride | I didnt know there was a web version for it | 12:54 |
| ravage | its mostly convinience to have it in an extra app | 12:55 |
| sotaoverride | thanks ravage | 12:55 |
| ravage | there is a snap of it too | 12:55 |
| ravage | just saying :) | 12:55 |
| eth5 | Howdy | 13:14 |
| DeepB|ue | My, there are many souls in this box. | 13:29 |
| === madmax__ is now known as madmax | ||
| Teridon | I have a weird grub(?) issue. When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically | 13:47 |
| Teridon | (grub 2.06 ; Ubuntu 20.04.6) | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:49 |
| webchat19 | hi, since a couple of days my Ubuntu 22.04.3.LTS shows this behaviour: mouse-clicks and keyboard input fails (can move the arrow though). 2 of my notification icons on the right-top of the screen (slack and zscaler) become dots. The after half a minute or so, the problem disappears. Is this something seen before? | 14:30 |
| ComputerTech | Anyone know how to enable the side click mouse scroll button, to like drag to move the page up and down thing? (not sure the name of it) | 14:51 |
| jailbreak | What's the bot called? | 15:00 |
| jailbreak | Don't want to spam the channel for private commands. | 15:01 |
| jailbreak | Pretty sure it was ubutto but nope. | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | jailbreak: what do you need help with exactly? | 15:01 |
| jailbreak | leftyfb: the bot name. like I just said. | 15:02 |
| leftyfb | jailbreak: that's not an ubuntu support topic. What is it you want to use the bot for? | 15:02 |
| ericus | Howdy! Which RDP client to use for RDP on multiple monitors and with passtrough for sound/mic? | 15:02 |
| jailbreak | "Don't want to spam the channel for private commands." | 15:02 |
| jailbreak | leftyfb: !isitoutyet | 15:03 |
| jailbreak | So I can message the bot and see. So it IS Ubuntu related. | 15:03 |
| leftyfb | jailbreak: you don't do that here. Go to #ubuntu-release-party | 15:03 |
| jailbreak | leftyfb: hence me asking the bot name. | 15:04 |
| leftyfb | jailbreak: /join #ubuntu-release-party | 15:04 |
| jailbreak | no. I want the bot name. | 15:04 |
| leftyfb | jailbreak: the bot for that is in #ubuntu-release-party | 15:05 |
| jailbreak | I can !isitoutyet and look for packages too. It's not a hard question to answer leftyfb | 15:05 |
| jailbreak | leftyfb: I know I shouldn't do !isitoutyet hence me asking for the bot. lol | 15:07 |
| jailbreak | Give up. Useless. Bye. | 15:07 |
| raddy | Hello | 16:36 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome raddy | 16:36 |
| raddy | Are dry-run, simulate and assume=no all same in apt ? | 16:37 |
| Guest23 | Hi i use void linux btw. How can i make ubuntu less comercial | 18:08 |
| Guest23 | ? | 18:08 |
| leftyfb | Guest23: what is your technical question about ubuntu? | 18:09 |
| Guest23 | rms said that ubuntu had some spyware features. That is true? | 18:10 |
| mybalzitch | define spyware | 18:11 |
| Guest23 | connecting to amazon for example without my consent. | 18:12 |
| Guest23 | or any major company | 18:12 |
| Guest23 | that is my definition of spyware. | 18:13 |
| JanC | Guest23: AFAIK Ubuntu never connected to Amazon directly | 18:14 |
| Guest23 | firefox does | 18:15 |
| JanC | maybe? (mine doesn't) | 18:15 |
| leftyfb | Guest23: the Amazon search was removed from ubuntu 7 years ago | 18:15 |
| Guest23 | ok. then rms is happy | 18:15 |
| Guest23 | with ubuntu | 18:15 |
| JanC | leftyfb: and the "Amazon search" never connected to Amazon directly? | 18:15 |
| leftyfb | it did | 18:16 |
| leftyfb | there was an uproar, it was removed. Problem solved | 18:16 |
| JanC | oh, maybe in the very early days? | 18:16 |
| toddc | firefox does not by default only when google search is used | 18:16 |
| JanC | I thought it connected to a Canonical proxy | 18:16 |
| Guest23 | lets have some serious talk. | 18:17 |
| leftyfb | !chat | Guest23 | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Guest23: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 18:17 |
| Guest23 | major companies take control of every user they can. | 18:17 |
| Guest23 | ok ubottu | 18:17 |
| JanC | anyway, it's always an option to use Librewolf or something like that | 18:18 |
| Guest23 | i just want to make some light to everybody in this channel. Don't trust major companies they are evile. | 18:18 |
| Guest23 | evil* | 18:18 |
| leftyfb | !ot | Guest23 | 18:18 |
| ubottu | Guest23: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 18:18 |
| JanC | maybe that's somewhat excessive | 18:19 |
| Eickmeyer | It was clear trolling. | 18:21 |
| JanC | I don't really know the history, of course, but there is a fine line between trolling & playing the devil's advocate (there have been privacy issues with Canonical after all) | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | JanC: i did not kick them because they brought up privacy issues, but for repeat trolling over a couple days. i dislike discussing moderation here or anywhere other than in #ubuntu-ops - you're welcome to join the channel for this purpose. | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | s/kick/ban/ | 18:33 |
| Teridon | I have a weird grub(?) issue (grub 2.0.6/Ubuntu 20.04.6). When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically. I can work around it by setting the GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0 but.. I'd rather figure out WTF is going on | 18:34 |
| JanC | tomreyn: like I said I don't know the history | 18:35 |
| JanC | it might be useful to have a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues to refer to? | 18:36 |
| tomreyn | JanC: Not on an IRC support channel, I'd say. Maybe https://community.ubuntu.com would eb a good place to discuss your concerns? | 18:38 |
| JanC | more like #ubuntu-discuss or so (I don't really like web forums) | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | Teridon: doh, that's special indeed. i'd guess on hardware issues, unless you can find, on the web, indication that this happens to others, too. | 18:39 |
| JanC | it was more like a remark really :) | 18:39 |
| JanC | Teridon: that sounds like a hardware bug | 18:40 |
| JanC | and I think a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues related to Ubuntu would be a good thing to have for #ubuntu | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | JanC: i don't. can we please drop this topic for now, please? | 18:43 |
| leftyfb | JanC: that's what #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic are for | 18:47 |
| JanC | which is where I took this to, but the end result of that should be acceptable here... | 18:48 |
| Bobrolak | Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous | 19:41 |
| tomreyn | Bobrolak: you're late indeed! 23.10 is going to be released soon and you've been without security patches for several months now. if you're not using secureboot then i don'T think you need the shim, but you will need to use the non-secureboot grub variant | 20:03 |
| tomreyn | Bobrolak: have you done the !eolupgrade yet? | 20:06 |
| josh_ | Good afternoon! Does Ubuntu 23.04 work fine with all types of sdcards? | 20:19 |
| toddc | josh_: I have not found any that will not work with ubuntu but some are beeter for cameras others are better for os use | 20:25 |
| toddc | better | 20:25 |
| josh_ | I tried one but it didn't work, the system didn't see it | 20:26 |
| toddc | check lsblk in a terminal | 20:27 |
| toddc | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/hardware-cardreader.html.en | 20:28 |
| sybariten | hello hello, so... i'm terrible with version issues, update issues and package management issues. My lsb_release says i'm running Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS , and my curl says version 7.81.00 . The homepage of curl mentions a new nifty option in curl from 2022, which was apparently planned for 7.83.00 . What are my chances of getting that curl into my system ? | 20:41 |
| ravage | !latest | sybariten | 20:42 |
| ubottu | sybariten: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 20:42 |
| toddc | sybariten: looks like you missed a few updates 22.04.3 is current | 20:45 |
| sybariten | ravage: thank you. Not sure i understand what it means though. Considered by who? Do they mean I _should_ not consider updating a program ? | 20:45 |
| sybariten | i mean, is it possible to do, or does ubuntu simply come with a set versionnumber for each available progam install, and that's just how it is ? | 20:47 |
| toddc | sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade then sudo apt dist-update | 20:47 |
| toddc | edit sudo apt dist-upgrade | 20:47 |
| ravage | sybariten: Ubuntu does not update package versions with a few exceptions. you get the version that comes with a release. you get all security related patches for this version for the whole lifecycle of a release | 20:48 |
| ravage | if you want install your own software that is possible of course but it not suppoerted here | 20:49 |
| toddc | you will then be current 22.04 lts newer versions are short term support to test new features | 20:49 |
| sybariten | ravage: i see! The version of emacs you have with ubuntu v.2x.x when you install it, is the version of emacs you keep as long as you're running ubuntu v.2x.x | 20:50 |
| ravage | not 2x.x | 20:50 |
| ravage | whenn | 20:50 |
| ravage | well yes | 20:50 |
| ravage | of the current release | 20:50 |
| sybariten | hn ? | 20:50 |
| sybariten | hm? | 20:50 |
| sybariten | i meant, "any given ubuntu release" | 20:51 |
| ravage | yes | 20:51 |
| ravage | for some software Ubuntu uses snaps | 20:51 |
| sybariten | ok , interesting concept. And toddc , what does your suggestion there do? Update my 22.04 to something completely different? | 20:51 |
| sybariten | ravage: yes thats true, i installed glances that way.... is there any way to tell if a snap install of curl will give me a newer version? I'm guessing it won't. | 20:52 |
| ravage | there is no official snap for curl | 20:52 |
| ravage | if you trust any of the curl packages there you can try it | 20:53 |
| ravage | but i dont see any version that has all security fixes | 20:53 |
| ravage | is there any reason you need a newer version? | 20:53 |
| sybariten | Yeah like i said, v7.83 introduced a new feature (well a new command line option). At least thats what the author claimed he would do, on the blog. | 20:54 |
| ravage | i would not mess with curl | 20:55 |
| ravage | its used by a lot of installed software | 20:56 |
| sybariten | Really? I actually thought i installed it myself, if you understand what i mean.... afterwards | 20:56 |
| chrisb | Hello. Apologies if this is the wrong channel for this question. I am ready to pull the trigger on an Ubuntu Pro subscription for my company's VMware ESXi cluster. I see in the documentation that all nodes in the cluster have to be subscribed, but I can't find any details on how to subscribe an ESXi node to the service. Does anyone know how that process works? | 20:57 |
| ravage | chrisb: no idea. you have to contact Canonical for that. i read about that too but i could not find any documentation | 20:58 |
| Bobrolak | tomreyn excuse lags, non-secureboot grub variant? can you elaborate? + "!eolupgrade" - what does it mean? I saw eol upgrade ubuntu page, but it was missing problems with 22.10 | 21:14 |
| Bobrolak | !eolupgrade | 21:14 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 21:14 |
| ravage | Ubuntu 22.10 is not supported anymore | 21:15 |
| ravage | upgrade or reinstall a supported release and come back with any problems you have with it | 21:15 |
| Eickmeyer | ravage: Yeah, that was an earlier discussion, he needs to eolupgrade. | 21:15 |
| Bobrolak | I know, thats why I want to upgrade, but unfortunatelly I hit this error caused by broken shim-signed dependency cycle | 21:16 |
| ravage | then my suggestion is to backup your files and reinstall | 21:16 |
| Eickmeyer | Bobrolak: You want the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades, and if that doesn't work, then the suggestion ravage has of backup/reinstall is the only way. | 21:16 |
| ravage | and maybe choose the LTS release. or upgrade while your release is still supported | 21:17 |
| Bobrolak | too much of work, I would rather go with tomreyn advice and somehow remove shim-signed | 21:17 |
| ravage | good luck | 21:18 |
| Bobrolak | LTS is not for me, it will miss some important features after some time | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: which features? | 21:19 |
| Bobrolak | ravage thank you. Do you maybe know something about non-secureboot variant of grub? | 21:19 |
| Bobrolak | leftyfb comming with new packages, and it could be anything - better performance or battery of the new kernel, better/faster DE, better audio, newer drivers etc, it could be virtually anything | 21:20 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: then you'll need to upgrade every 6 months | 21:21 |
| Bobrolak | yes, now I see how painful it could be in case of a lag :) | 21:21 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: I've been on LTS since Ubuntu 7.04. No issues here | 21:22 |
| Bobrolak | i still don't know why is it happening now, there is more unanswered topics like mine on the forums. Seems like something get really bad with dependencies | 21:22 |
| Bobrolak | leftyfb oh, I know, it really depends on what do you expect from your system | 21:23 |
| leftyfb | stability | 21:23 |
| leftyfb | not worrying about EOL upgrades | 21:23 |
| Bobrolak | then sure, however I was never touched by any problem caused by EOL that I could not fix easily, till now ;) | 21:24 |
| Bobrolak | I would really like Ubuntu to be on the edge and support rolling updates, but oh well | 21:25 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: can you pastebin or screenshot the error? | 21:26 |
| Bobrolak | leftyfb https://appdevtools.com/pastebin/sdkACz | 21:30 |
| Bobrolak | I guess I should just switch to grub-efi-amd64, right? | 21:31 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: sudo mokutil --sb-state | 21:32 |
| Bobrolak | SecureBoot disabled | 21:33 |
| leftyfb | Bobrolak: you can try removing shim-signed but I can't guarantee it's not going to cause any other issues | 21:35 |
| Bobrolak | leftyfb thats what I was afraid of as I don't know if it has any dependencies in signed grub, but tom gives this hint of using non-signed grub and it seems like a good way, I guess I will try to do it, just tomorrow as I have to go sleep now | 21:38 |
| Bobrolak | thanks for your support, tomorrow I will leave the feedback if it worked or not, gn | 21:39 |
| Square | Hey. I got a HP desktop system a year ago. Overall decent. Iirc, I did a standard install of Ubuntu 22.04. Today I discovered I was running X11 for some odd reason. When I switched to Wayland I feel as if its not moving as snappy as before UI wise. Just have Intel Corporation RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750]. | 23:45 |
| Square | vainfo gives: vainfo: Driver version: Intel iHD driver for Intel(R) Gen Graphics - 22.3.1 () | 23:46 |
| gry | Square: if you make a new OS user (new username and password) and try there, does it work better, or still slow? | 23:46 |
| gry | Square: and which particular apps are slow? or is it everything? | 23:47 |
| Square | gry: its not night and day big difference. But enough to notice it. I felt hexchat, firefox and intellij at least experience this | 23:47 |
| gry | Okay. I'd suggest to add a new user. Log out from your current user. Log in as the new user. Open hexchat only for 20 mins or so and see how that works. | 23:48 |
| Square | gry: just curious. Why would a new user help? | 23:49 |
| gry | May be a misconfiguration in the existing user. | 23:50 |
| Square | ok, ill try it | 23:52 |
| AngryTom | I have severe memory leak problems. I am using IntelliJ, Java, Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04. Is that normal? | 23:58 |
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