[00:59] <Guest23> Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza
[00:59] <Guest23> Garfield, Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza have an orgy over lasagna!  https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton
[01:01] <Guest23> Does anyone else jack off over Garfield?
[01:02] <gry> I've got no idea about who or what that is. Would you mind limiting your inquiries to be only about Ubuntu support and nothing else? (For other topics, the #ubuntu-offtopic channel may be more knowledgeable than I.)
[01:04] <tomreyn> a ban evading spam bot harassing the network, please try to ignore it.
[01:47] <sqilton> Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza
[01:47] <sqilton> Garfield, Nermal, a N11gger with a 12 inch penis, and his wife all have a hot orgy over lasagna!  https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton
[01:49] <mybalzitch> tomreyn: sigh. ping.
[01:49] <mybalzitch> nevermind
[01:49] <Eickmeyer> Those scripts don't usually last long.
[01:55] <blahboybaz> Is there any way to tell if `.tar.gz` completed successfully? I had to leave it overnight and I don't know if if completed properly.
[01:56] <mybalzitch> blahboybaz: echo $? as the next command in the shell that ran it
[02:00] <blahboybaz> mybalzitch: I'm not sure I grep what you are suggesting (I'm sorry)
[02:01] <mybalzitch> echo $? will show you the exit status of the process that was last run, if its 0 it completed successfully, if its not 0 there was an error
[02:01] <blahboybaz> mybalzitch: It is 2
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> That means the download was unsuccessful.
[02:03] <blahboybaz> I kinda thought it did not complete successfully. And I'm getting a disc space warning. So I'm trying to figure that out. I thought I have a 2 tb disc with like 275 ish gb used. If I made a tar.gz archive of /home and a couple other small dirs it should not total out to more than double 275 which would be considerably less than 2 tb.
[02:04] <Eickmeyer> That depends on how much of /home is compressed already, but your theory seems sound.
[02:05] <Eickmeyer> It also depends on how much of the partition is actually taking the entire 2TB.
[02:06] <blahboybaz> Eickmeyer: Yeah, I guess I was wrong. It looks like my disc is only 474 MiB
[02:06] <blahboybaz> Sooo..  I guess I'm in that sitch again where I don't have enough space to make a backup.
[02:06] <blahboybaz> Maybe have to go through and cull some stuff I don't need
[02:07] <Eickmeyer> Sounds like it, unless you have an external drive somewhere.
[02:09] <blahboybaz> Eickmeyer: I wish
[03:09] <edde> someone in there?
[05:31] <blahboybaz> Is there any way to restart a failed creation of .tar.gz ?
[05:31] <blahboybaz> Or do I have to start over from the beginning?
[06:21] <Your_Dog> man i was worried that i have to install ubuntu 23.04 or kde neon to get the later version of kde but thank God Kubuntu backports exist <3
[06:59] <Bobrolak> Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous
[07:20] <ivs> defrswsgh
[07:20] <ivs> hi
[07:20] <ivs> ~~
[07:21] <ivs> what is this?? chat?
[07:24] <Bobrolak> @ivs: yes, Internet Relay Chat, surprised?
[07:29] <zzarr> Hello! I wish to grow/enlarge a disk image, how do I do this without changing the current contents of the disk?
[08:03] <blahboybaz> Is there any way to absolutely keep Ubuntu 20.04 from hibernating or sleeping or any such thing by any name? It seems I have configured the settings to not do that in the past but it still did. I'm uploading a MASSIVE file to google drive and its late (sleepy time) - I need to make sure that upload doesn't get interrupted by such things.
[08:14] <nteodosio> Are you using Xorg?
[08:31] <nteodosio> blahboybaz, if yes the brute force method is 'while sleep 30; do xdotool mousemove $((i++%10)) 1; done'. Good old Xorg days. :)
[09:07] <illiacunningham> hi guys
[09:10] <illiacunningham> goodmorning
[10:44] <lampsok> XDCC SEND #737220
[11:01] <holzkopf> CVE-2023-38545 <- does ubuntu ignore this?
[11:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu- ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-38545>
[11:28] <ubuntu> Hello
[11:28] <Guest5082> Hi
[11:29] <Guest5082> Hello
[11:30] <Guest5082> I have some query. Can I ask
[11:31] <Guest5082> ??
[11:32] <Guest5082> Hello Redon3
[11:32] <redon3> hi
[11:33] <Guest5082> I have a query regarding ubuntu subscription ?
[11:39] <guiverc> Ubuntu subscription?   It's best if you just ask your question Guest5082, people will answer as/when they're able to.
[11:40] <Guest5082> Hi
[11:42] <Guest5082> We have a ubuntu vm in our infra. we need to buy service support for this
[11:42] <guiverc> If you're talking about a Canonical provided service, you're best speaking with Canonical, not the Ubuntu community.
[11:43] <Guest5082> Please suggest how to talk with cani=onical
[11:43] <Guest5082> *canonical
[11:44] <guiverc> I would firstly look at what part of the company you want to speak to, looking online this appears https://canonical.com/contact-us , but the best place to ask depends on where in the company the required service relates
[11:46] <guiverc> Sorry I'm a community member & am not affiliated with Canonical in any way (as the majority of people in this room will be, yes some work for Canonical but most are not)
[12:05] <tr4in33> hello
[12:05] <tr4in33> world
[12:41] <eth5> Good morning
[12:41] <ComputerTech> o/
[12:53] <sotaoverride> anyone know where I can get the .deb file for Microsoft Teams at?
[12:54] <sotaoverride> keep getting 404s when I try the pages I find on google
[12:54] <ravage> sotaoverride: not supported here but look at teamsforlinux.de
[12:54] <dTal> Is there some reason for finding a native version instead of just using the web interfac?
[12:54] <ravage> full disclosure: thats my website. but not my software. github is linked there
[12:54] <sotaoverride> I didnt know there was a web version for it
[12:55] <ravage> its mostly convinience to have it in an extra app
[12:55] <sotaoverride> thanks ravage
[12:55] <ravage> there is a snap of it too
[12:55] <ravage> just saying :)
[13:14] <eth5> Howdy
[13:29] <DeepB|ue> My, there are many souls in this box.
[13:47] <Teridon> I have a weird grub(?) issue.  When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically
[13:48] <Teridon> (grub 2.06 ; Ubuntu 20.04.6)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:30] <webchat19> hi, since a couple of days my Ubuntu 22.04.3.LTS shows this behaviour: mouse-clicks and keyboard input fails (can move the arrow though). 2 of my notification icons on the right-top of the screen (slack and zscaler) become dots. The after half a minute or so, the problem disappears. Is this something seen before?
[14:51] <ComputerTech> Anyone know how to enable the side click mouse scroll button, to like drag to move the page up and down thing? (not sure the name of it)
[15:00] <jailbreak> What's the bot called?
[15:01] <jailbreak> Don't want to spam the channel for private commands.
[15:01] <jailbreak> Pretty sure it was ubutto but nope.
[15:01] <leftyfb> jailbreak: what do you need help with exactly?
[15:02] <jailbreak> leftyfb: the bot name. like I just said.
[15:02] <leftyfb> jailbreak: that's not an ubuntu support topic. What is it you want to use the bot for?
[15:02] <ericus> Howdy! Which RDP client to use for RDP on multiple monitors and with passtrough for sound/mic?
[15:02] <jailbreak> "Don't want to spam the channel for private commands."
[15:03] <jailbreak> leftyfb: !isitoutyet
[15:03] <jailbreak> So I can message the bot and see. So it IS Ubuntu related.
[15:03] <leftyfb> jailbreak: you don't do that here. Go to #ubuntu-release-party
[15:04] <jailbreak> leftyfb: hence me asking the bot name.
[15:04] <leftyfb> jailbreak: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[15:04] <jailbreak> no. I want the bot name.
[15:05] <leftyfb> jailbreak: the bot for that is in #ubuntu-release-party
[15:05] <jailbreak> I can !isitoutyet and look for packages too. It's not a hard question to answer leftyfb
[15:07] <jailbreak> leftyfb: I know I shouldn't do !isitoutyet hence me asking for the bot. lol
[15:07] <jailbreak> Give up. Useless. Bye.
[16:36] <raddy> Hello
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome raddy
[16:37] <raddy> Are dry-run, simulate and assume=no all same in apt ?
[18:08] <Guest23> Hi i use void linux btw. How can i make ubuntu less comercial
[18:08] <Guest23> ?
[18:09] <leftyfb> Guest23: what is your technical question about ubuntu?
[18:10] <Guest23> rms said that ubuntu had some spyware features. That is true?
[18:11] <mybalzitch> define spyware
[18:12] <Guest23> connecting to amazon for example without my consent.
[18:12] <Guest23> or any major company
[18:13] <Guest23> that is my definition of spyware.
[18:14] <JanC> Guest23: AFAIK Ubuntu never connected to Amazon directly
[18:15] <Guest23> firefox does
[18:15] <JanC> maybe? (mine doesn't)
[18:15] <leftyfb> Guest23: the Amazon search was removed from ubuntu 7 years ago
[18:15] <Guest23> ok. then rms is happy
[18:15] <Guest23> with ubuntu
[18:15] <JanC> leftyfb: and the "Amazon search" never connected to Amazon directly?
[18:16] <leftyfb> it did
[18:16] <leftyfb> there was an uproar, it was removed. Problem solved
[18:16] <JanC> oh, maybe in the very early days?
[18:16] <toddc> firefox does not by default only when google search is used
[18:16] <JanC> I thought it connected to a Canonical proxy
[18:17] <Guest23> lets have some serious talk.
[18:17] <leftyfb> !chat | Guest23
[18:17] <Guest23> major companies take control of every user they can.
[18:17] <Guest23> ok ubottu
[18:18] <JanC> anyway, it's always an option to use Librewolf or something like that
[18:18] <Guest23> i just want to make some light to everybody in this channel. Don't trust major companies they are evile.
[18:18] <Guest23> evil*
[18:18] <leftyfb> !ot | Guest23
[18:19] <JanC> maybe that's somewhat excessive
[18:21] <Eickmeyer> It was clear trolling.
[18:27] <JanC> I don't really know the history, of course, but there is a fine line between trolling & playing the devil's advocate (there have been privacy issues with Canonical after all)
[18:33] <tomreyn> JanC: i did not kick them because they brought up privacy issues, but for repeat trolling over a couple days. i dislike discussing moderation here or anywhere other than in #ubuntu-ops - you're welcome to join the channel for this purpose.
[18:33] <tomreyn> s/kick/ban/
[18:34] <Teridon> I have a weird grub(?) issue (grub 2.0.6/Ubuntu 20.04.6).  When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically.  I can work around it by setting the GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0 but.. I'd rather figure out WTF is going on
[18:35] <JanC> tomreyn: like I said I don't know the history
[18:36] <JanC> it might be useful to have a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues to refer to?
[18:38] <tomreyn> JanC: Not on an IRC support channel, I'd say. Maybe https://community.ubuntu.com would eb a good place to discuss your concerns?
[18:39] <JanC> more like #ubuntu-discuss or so (I don't really like web forums)
[18:39] <tomreyn> Teridon: doh, that's special indeed. i'd guess on hardware issues, unless you can find, on the web, indication that this happens to others, too.
[18:39] <JanC> it was more like a remark really  :)
[18:40] <JanC> Teridon: that sounds like a hardware bug
[18:42] <JanC> and I think a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues related to Ubuntu would be a good thing to have for #ubuntu
[18:43] <tomreyn> JanC: i don't. can we please drop this topic for now, please?
[18:47] <leftyfb> JanC: that's what #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic are for
[18:48] <JanC> which is where I took this to, but the end result of that should be acceptable here...
[19:41] <Bobrolak> Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous
[20:03] <tomreyn> Bobrolak: you're late indeed! 23.10 is going to be released soon and you've been without security patches for several months now.   if you're not using secureboot then i don'T think you need the shim, but you will need to use the non-secureboot grub variant
[20:06] <tomreyn> Bobrolak: have you done the !eolupgrade yet?
[20:19] <josh_> Good afternoon! Does Ubuntu 23.04 work fine with all types of sdcards?
[20:25] <toddc> josh_: I have not found any that will not work with ubuntu  but some are beeter for cameras others are better for os use
[20:25] <toddc> better
[20:26] <josh_> I tried one but it didn't work, the system didn't see it
[20:27] <toddc> check lsblk in a terminal
[20:28] <toddc> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/hardware-cardreader.html.en
[20:41] <sybariten> hello hello, so... i'm terrible with version issues, update issues and package management issues. My lsb_release says i'm running Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS , and my curl says version 7.81.00 . The homepage of curl mentions a new nifty option in curl from 2022, which was apparently planned for 7.83.00 . What are my chances of getting that curl into my system ?
[20:42] <ravage> !latest | sybariten
[20:45] <toddc> sybariten: looks like you missed a few updates 22.04.3 is current
[20:45] <sybariten> ravage: thank you. Not sure i understand what it means though. Considered by who? Do they mean I _should_ not consider updating a program ?
[20:47] <sybariten> i mean, is it possible to do, or does ubuntu simply come with a set versionnumber for each available progam install, and that's just how it is ?
[20:47] <toddc> sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade then sudo apt dist-update
[20:47] <toddc> edit sudo apt dist-upgrade
[20:48] <ravage> sybariten: Ubuntu does not update package versions with a few exceptions. you get the version that comes with a release. you get all security related patches for this version for the whole lifecycle of a release
[20:49] <ravage> if you want install your own software that is possible of course but it not suppoerted here
[20:49] <toddc> you will then be current 22.04 lts  newer versions are short term support to test new features
[20:50] <sybariten> ravage: i see! The version of emacs you have with ubuntu v.2x.x when you install it, is the version of emacs you keep as long as you're running ubuntu v.2x.x
[20:50] <ravage> not 2x.x
[20:50] <ravage> whenn
[20:50] <ravage> well yes
[20:50] <ravage> of the current release
[20:50] <sybariten> hn ?
[20:50] <sybariten> hm?
[20:51] <sybariten> i meant, "any given ubuntu release"
[20:51] <ravage> yes
[20:51] <ravage> for some software Ubuntu uses snaps
[20:51] <sybariten> ok , interesting concept. And toddc , what does your suggestion there do? Update my 22.04 to something completely different?
[20:52] <sybariten> ravage: yes thats true, i installed glances that way....  is there any way to tell if a snap install of curl will give me a newer version? I'm guessing it won't.
[20:52] <ravage> there is no official snap for curl
[20:53] <ravage> if you trust any of the curl packages there you can try it
[20:53] <ravage> but i dont see any version that has all security fixes
[20:53] <ravage> is there any reason you need a newer version?
[20:54] <sybariten> Yeah like i said, v7.83 introduced a new feature (well a new command line option). At least thats what the author claimed he would do, on the blog.
[20:55] <ravage> i would not mess with curl
[20:56] <ravage> its used by a lot of installed software
[20:56] <sybariten> Really? I actually thought i installed it myself, if you understand what i mean.... afterwards
[20:57] <chrisb> Hello. Apologies if this is the wrong channel for this question. I am ready to pull the trigger on an Ubuntu Pro subscription for my company's VMware ESXi cluster. I see in the documentation that all nodes in the cluster have to be subscribed, but I can't find any details on how to subscribe an ESXi node to the service. Does anyone know how that process works?
[20:58] <ravage> chrisb: no idea. you have to contact Canonical for that. i read about that too but i could not find any documentation
[21:14] <Bobrolak> tomreyn excuse lags, non-secureboot grub variant? can you elaborate? + "!eolupgrade" - what does it mean? I saw eol upgrade ubuntu page, but it was missing problems with 22.10
[21:14] <Bobrolak> !eolupgrade
[21:15] <ravage> Ubuntu 22.10 is not supported anymore
[21:15] <ravage> upgrade or reinstall a supported release and come back with any problems you have with it
[21:15] <Eickmeyer> ravage: Yeah, that was an earlier discussion, he needs to eolupgrade.
[21:16] <Bobrolak> I know, thats why I want to upgrade, but unfortunatelly I hit this error caused by broken shim-signed dependency cycle
[21:16] <ravage> then my suggestion is to backup your files and reinstall
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> Bobrolak: You want the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades, and if that doesn't work, then the suggestion ravage has of backup/reinstall is the only way.
[21:17] <ravage> and maybe choose the LTS release. or upgrade while your release is still supported
[21:17] <Bobrolak> too much of work, I would rather go with tomreyn advice and somehow remove shim-signed
[21:18] <ravage> good luck
[21:18] <Bobrolak> LTS is not for me, it will miss some important features after some time
[21:19] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: which features?
[21:19] <Bobrolak> ravage thank you. Do you maybe know something about non-secureboot variant of grub?
[21:20] <Bobrolak> leftyfb comming with new packages, and it could be anything - better performance or battery of the new kernel, better/faster DE, better audio, newer drivers etc, it could be virtually anything
[21:21] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: then you'll need to upgrade every 6 months
[21:21] <Bobrolak> yes, now I see how painful it could be in case of a lag :)
[21:22] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: I've been on LTS since Ubuntu 7.04. No issues here
[21:22] <Bobrolak> i still don't know why is it happening now, there is more unanswered topics like mine on the forums. Seems like something get really bad with dependencies
[21:23] <Bobrolak> leftyfb oh, I know, it really depends on what do you expect from your system
[21:23] <leftyfb> stability
[21:23] <leftyfb> not worrying about EOL upgrades
[21:24] <Bobrolak> then sure, however I was never touched by any problem caused by EOL that I could not fix easily, till now ;)
[21:25] <Bobrolak> I would really like Ubuntu to be on the edge and support rolling updates, but oh well
[21:26] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: can you pastebin or screenshot the error?
[21:30] <Bobrolak> leftyfb https://appdevtools.com/pastebin/sdkACz
[21:31] <Bobrolak> I guess I should just switch to grub-efi-amd64, right?
[21:32] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: sudo mokutil --sb-state
[21:33] <Bobrolak> SecureBoot disabled
[21:35] <leftyfb> Bobrolak: you can try removing shim-signed but I can't guarantee it's not going to cause any other issues
[21:38] <Bobrolak> leftyfb thats what I was afraid of as I don't know if it has any dependencies in signed grub, but tom gives this hint of using non-signed grub and it seems like a good way, I guess I will try to do it,  just tomorrow as I have to go sleep now
[21:39] <Bobrolak> thanks for your support, tomorrow I will leave the feedback if it worked or not, gn
[23:45] <Square> Hey. I got a HP desktop system a year ago. Overall decent. Iirc, I did a standard install of Ubuntu 22.04. Today I discovered I was running X11 for some odd reason. When I switched to Wayland I feel as if its not moving as snappy as before UI wise. Just have Intel Corporation RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750].
[23:46] <Square> vainfo gives: vainfo: Driver version: Intel iHD driver for Intel(R) Gen Graphics - 22.3.1 ()
[23:46] <gry> Square: if you make a new OS user (new username and password) and try there, does it work better, or still slow?
[23:47] <gry> Square: and which particular apps are slow? or is it everything?
[23:47] <Square> gry: its not night and day big difference. But enough to notice it. I felt hexchat, firefox and intellij at least experience this
[23:48] <gry> Okay. I'd suggest to add a new user. Log out from your current user. Log in as the new user. Open hexchat only for 20 mins or so and see how that works.
[23:49] <Square> gry: just curious. Why would a new user help?
[23:50] <gry> May be a misconfiguration in the existing user.
[23:52] <Square> ok, ill try it
[23:58] <AngryTom> I have severe memory leak problems. I am using IntelliJ, Java, Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04. Is that normal?