[00:59] Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza [00:59] Garfield, Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza have an orgy over lasagna! https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton [01:01] Does anyone else jack off over Garfield? [01:02] I've got no idea about who or what that is. Would you mind limiting your inquiries to be only about Ubuntu support and nothing else? (For other topics, the #ubuntu-offtopic channel may be more knowledgeable than I.) [01:04] a ban evading spam bot harassing the network, please try to ignore it. [01:47] Garfield's Foursome with Nermal, Edna Skilton, and Jean Pierre Manikariza [01:47] Garfield, Nermal, a N11gger with a 12 inch penis, and his wife all have a hot orgy over lasagna! https://justpaste.it/Garfield-Foursome-Nermal-Skilton === deepSleep is now known as Guest1181 [01:49] tomreyn: sigh. ping. [01:49] nevermind [01:49] Those scripts don't usually last long. [01:55] Is there any way to tell if `.tar.gz` completed successfully? I had to leave it overnight and I don't know if if completed properly. [01:56] blahboybaz: echo $? as the next command in the shell that ran it === Rahoul7 is now known as Rahoul [02:00] mybalzitch: I'm not sure I grep what you are suggesting (I'm sorry) [02:01] echo $? will show you the exit status of the process that was last run, if its 0 it completed successfully, if its not 0 there was an error [02:01] mybalzitch: It is 2 [02:02] That means the download was unsuccessful. [02:03] I kinda thought it did not complete successfully. And I'm getting a disc space warning. So I'm trying to figure that out. I thought I have a 2 tb disc with like 275 ish gb used. If I made a tar.gz archive of /home and a couple other small dirs it should not total out to more than double 275 which would be considerably less than 2 tb. [02:04] That depends on how much of /home is compressed already, but your theory seems sound. [02:05] It also depends on how much of the partition is actually taking the entire 2TB. [02:06] Eickmeyer: Yeah, I guess I was wrong. It looks like my disc is only 474 MiB [02:06] Sooo.. I guess I'm in that sitch again where I don't have enough space to make a backup. [02:06] Maybe have to go through and cull some stuff I don't need [02:07] Sounds like it, unless you have an external drive somewhere. [02:09] Eickmeyer: I wish [03:09] someone in there? === zofrex2 is now known as zofrex [05:31] Is there any way to restart a failed creation of .tar.gz ? [05:31] Or do I have to start over from the beginning? [06:21] man i was worried that i have to install ubuntu 23.04 or kde neon to get the later version of kde but thank God Kubuntu backports exist <3 [06:59] Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous [07:20] defrswsgh [07:20] hi [07:20] ~~ [07:21] what is this?? chat? [07:24] @ivs: yes, Internet Relay Chat, surprised? [07:29] Hello! I wish to grow/enlarge a disk image, how do I do this without changing the current contents of the disk? [08:03] Is there any way to absolutely keep Ubuntu 20.04 from hibernating or sleeping or any such thing by any name? It seems I have configured the settings to not do that in the past but it still did. I'm uploading a MASSIVE file to google drive and its late (sleepy time) - I need to make sure that upload doesn't get interrupted by such things. [08:14] Are you using Xorg? === PowaBanga_ is now known as PowaBanga [08:31] blahboybaz, if yes the brute force method is 'while sleep 30; do xdotool mousemove $((i++%10)) 1; done'. Good old Xorg days. :) [09:07] hi guys [09:10] goodmorning === esv_ is now known as esv [10:44] XDCC SEND #737220 [11:01] CVE-2023-38545 <- does ubuntu ignore this? [11:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu- ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. [11:28] Hello === ubuntu is now known as Guest5082 [11:28] Hi [11:29] Hello [11:30] I have some query. Can I ask [11:31] ?? [11:32] Hello Redon3 [11:32] hi [11:33] I have a query regarding ubuntu subscription ? [11:39] Ubuntu subscription? It's best if you just ask your question Guest5082, people will answer as/when they're able to. [11:40] Hi [11:42] We have a ubuntu vm in our infra. we need to buy service support for this [11:42] If you're talking about a Canonical provided service, you're best speaking with Canonical, not the Ubuntu community. [11:43] Please suggest how to talk with cani=onical [11:43] *canonical [11:44] I would firstly look at what part of the company you want to speak to, looking online this appears https://canonical.com/contact-us , but the best place to ask depends on where in the company the required service relates [11:46] Sorry I'm a community member & am not affiliated with Canonical in any way (as the majority of people in this room will be, yes some work for Canonical but most are not) [12:05] hello [12:05] world [12:41] Good morning [12:41] o/ [12:53] anyone know where I can get the .deb file for Microsoft Teams at? [12:54] keep getting 404s when I try the pages I find on google [12:54] sotaoverride: not supported here but look at teamsforlinux.de [12:54] Is there some reason for finding a native version instead of just using the web interfac? [12:54] full disclosure: thats my website. but not my software. github is linked there [12:54] I didnt know there was a web version for it [12:55] its mostly convinience to have it in an extra app [12:55] thanks ravage [12:55] there is a snap of it too [12:55] just saying :) [13:14] Howdy [13:29] My, there are many souls in this box. === madmax__ is now known as madmax [13:47] I have a weird grub(?) issue. When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically [13:48] (grub 2.06 ; Ubuntu 20.04.6) [13:49] Hi all [14:30] hi, since a couple of days my Ubuntu 22.04.3.LTS shows this behaviour: mouse-clicks and keyboard input fails (can move the arrow though). 2 of my notification icons on the right-top of the screen (slack and zscaler) become dots. The after half a minute or so, the problem disappears. Is this something seen before? [14:51] Anyone know how to enable the side click mouse scroll button, to like drag to move the page up and down thing? (not sure the name of it) [15:00] What's the bot called? [15:01] Don't want to spam the channel for private commands. [15:01] Pretty sure it was ubutto but nope. [15:01] jailbreak: what do you need help with exactly? [15:02] leftyfb: the bot name. like I just said. [15:02] jailbreak: that's not an ubuntu support topic. What is it you want to use the bot for? [15:02] Howdy! Which RDP client to use for RDP on multiple monitors and with passtrough for sound/mic? [15:02] "Don't want to spam the channel for private commands." [15:03] leftyfb: !isitoutyet [15:03] So I can message the bot and see. So it IS Ubuntu related. [15:03] jailbreak: you don't do that here. Go to #ubuntu-release-party [15:04] leftyfb: hence me asking the bot name. [15:04] jailbreak: /join #ubuntu-release-party [15:04] no. I want the bot name. [15:05] jailbreak: the bot for that is in #ubuntu-release-party [15:05] I can !isitoutyet and look for packages too. It's not a hard question to answer leftyfb [15:07] leftyfb: I know I shouldn't do !isitoutyet hence me asking for the bot. lol [15:07] Give up. Useless. Bye. [16:36] Hello [16:36] welcome raddy [16:37] Are dry-run, simulate and assume=no all same in apt ? [18:08] Hi i use void linux btw. How can i make ubuntu less comercial [18:08] ? [18:09] Guest23: what is your technical question about ubuntu? [18:10] rms said that ubuntu had some spyware features. That is true? [18:11] define spyware [18:12] connecting to amazon for example without my consent. [18:12] or any major company [18:13] that is my definition of spyware. [18:14] Guest23: AFAIK Ubuntu never connected to Amazon directly [18:15] firefox does [18:15] maybe? (mine doesn't) [18:15] Guest23: the Amazon search was removed from ubuntu 7 years ago [18:15] ok. then rms is happy [18:15] with ubuntu [18:15] leftyfb: and the "Amazon search" never connected to Amazon directly? [18:16] it did [18:16] there was an uproar, it was removed. Problem solved [18:16] oh, maybe in the very early days? [18:16] firefox does not by default only when google search is used [18:16] I thought it connected to a Canonical proxy [18:17] lets have some serious talk. [18:17] !chat | Guest23 [18:17] Guest23: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [18:17] major companies take control of every user they can. [18:17] ok ubottu [18:18] anyway, it's always an option to use Librewolf or something like that [18:18] i just want to make some light to everybody in this channel. Don't trust major companies they are evile. [18:18] evil* [18:18] !ot | Guest23 [18:18] Guest23: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [18:19] maybe that's somewhat excessive [18:21] It was clear trolling. [18:27] I don't really know the history, of course, but there is a fine line between trolling & playing the devil's advocate (there have been privacy issues with Canonical after all) [18:33] JanC: i did not kick them because they brought up privacy issues, but for repeat trolling over a couple days. i dislike discussing moderation here or anywhere other than in #ubuntu-ops - you're welcome to join the channel for this purpose. [18:33] s/kick/ban/ [18:34] I have a weird grub(?) issue (grub 2.0.6/Ubuntu 20.04.6). When I boot the system with no keyboard attached, it automatically switches between entries every second or two, and therefore never boots automatically. I can work around it by setting the GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0 but.. I'd rather figure out WTF is going on [18:35] tomreyn: like I said I don't know the history [18:36] it might be useful to have a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues to refer to? [18:38] JanC: Not on an IRC support channel, I'd say. Maybe https://community.ubuntu.com would eb a good place to discuss your concerns? [18:39] more like #ubuntu-discuss or so (I don't really like web forums) [18:39] Teridon: doh, that's special indeed. i'd guess on hardware issues, unless you can find, on the web, indication that this happens to others, too. [18:39] it was more like a remark really :) [18:40] Teridon: that sounds like a hardware bug [18:42] and I think a honest discussion of past & current privacy issues related to Ubuntu would be a good thing to have for #ubuntu [18:43] JanC: i don't. can we please drop this topic for now, please? [18:47] JanC: that's what #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic are for [18:48] which is where I took this to, but the end result of that should be acceptable here... [19:41] Hi, I guess I am yet another person with 22.10 EOL who wants to upgrade to 23.04 and gets "Broken shim-signed" dependency. I searched web, there is many open cases but I found no actual answer. Can you give me a hint how to fix it? I thought about removing shim-signed (i do not have secure boot) but apt claims its dangerous [20:03] Bobrolak: you're late indeed! 23.10 is going to be released soon and you've been without security patches for several months now. if you're not using secureboot then i don'T think you need the shim, but you will need to use the non-secureboot grub variant [20:06] Bobrolak: have you done the !eolupgrade yet? [20:19] Good afternoon! Does Ubuntu 23.04 work fine with all types of sdcards? [20:25] josh_: I have not found any that will not work with ubuntu but some are beeter for cameras others are better for os use [20:25] better [20:26] I tried one but it didn't work, the system didn't see it [20:27] check lsblk in a terminal [20:28] https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/hardware-cardreader.html.en [20:41] hello hello, so... i'm terrible with version issues, update issues and package management issues. My lsb_release says i'm running Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS , and my curl says version 7.81.00 . The homepage of curl mentions a new nifty option in curl from 2022, which was apparently planned for 7.83.00 . What are my chances of getting that curl into my system ? [20:42] !latest | sybariten [20:42] sybariten: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [20:45] sybariten: looks like you missed a few updates 22.04.3 is current [20:45] ravage: thank you. Not sure i understand what it means though. Considered by who? Do they mean I _should_ not consider updating a program ? [20:47] i mean, is it possible to do, or does ubuntu simply come with a set versionnumber for each available progam install, and that's just how it is ? [20:47] sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade then sudo apt dist-update [20:47] edit sudo apt dist-upgrade [20:48] sybariten: Ubuntu does not update package versions with a few exceptions. you get the version that comes with a release. you get all security related patches for this version for the whole lifecycle of a release [20:49] if you want install your own software that is possible of course but it not suppoerted here [20:49] you will then be current 22.04 lts newer versions are short term support to test new features [20:50] ravage: i see! The version of emacs you have with ubuntu v.2x.x when you install it, is the version of emacs you keep as long as you're running ubuntu v.2x.x [20:50] not 2x.x [20:50] whenn [20:50] well yes [20:50] of the current release [20:50] hn ? [20:50] hm? [20:51] i meant, "any given ubuntu release" [20:51] yes [20:51] for some software Ubuntu uses snaps [20:51] ok , interesting concept. And toddc , what does your suggestion there do? Update my 22.04 to something completely different? [20:52] ravage: yes thats true, i installed glances that way.... is there any way to tell if a snap install of curl will give me a newer version? I'm guessing it won't. [20:52] there is no official snap for curl [20:53] if you trust any of the curl packages there you can try it [20:53] but i dont see any version that has all security fixes [20:53] is there any reason you need a newer version? [20:54] Yeah like i said, v7.83 introduced a new feature (well a new command line option). At least thats what the author claimed he would do, on the blog. [20:55] i would not mess with curl [20:56] its used by a lot of installed software [20:56] Really? I actually thought i installed it myself, if you understand what i mean.... afterwards [20:57] Hello. Apologies if this is the wrong channel for this question. I am ready to pull the trigger on an Ubuntu Pro subscription for my company's VMware ESXi cluster. I see in the documentation that all nodes in the cluster have to be subscribed, but I can't find any details on how to subscribe an ESXi node to the service. Does anyone know how that process works? [20:58] chrisb: no idea. you have to contact Canonical for that. i read about that too but i could not find any documentation [21:14] tomreyn excuse lags, non-secureboot grub variant? can you elaborate? + "!eolupgrade" - what does it mean? I saw eol upgrade ubuntu page, but it was missing problems with 22.10 [21:14] !eolupgrade [21:14] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [21:15] Ubuntu 22.10 is not supported anymore [21:15] upgrade or reinstall a supported release and come back with any problems you have with it [21:15] ravage: Yeah, that was an earlier discussion, he needs to eolupgrade. [21:16] I know, thats why I want to upgrade, but unfortunatelly I hit this error caused by broken shim-signed dependency cycle [21:16] then my suggestion is to backup your files and reinstall [21:16] Bobrolak: You want the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades, and if that doesn't work, then the suggestion ravage has of backup/reinstall is the only way. [21:17] and maybe choose the LTS release. or upgrade while your release is still supported [21:17] too much of work, I would rather go with tomreyn advice and somehow remove shim-signed [21:18] good luck [21:18] LTS is not for me, it will miss some important features after some time [21:19] Bobrolak: which features? [21:19] ravage thank you. Do you maybe know something about non-secureboot variant of grub? [21:20] leftyfb comming with new packages, and it could be anything - better performance or battery of the new kernel, better/faster DE, better audio, newer drivers etc, it could be virtually anything [21:21] Bobrolak: then you'll need to upgrade every 6 months [21:21] yes, now I see how painful it could be in case of a lag :) [21:22] Bobrolak: I've been on LTS since Ubuntu 7.04. No issues here [21:22] i still don't know why is it happening now, there is more unanswered topics like mine on the forums. Seems like something get really bad with dependencies [21:23] leftyfb oh, I know, it really depends on what do you expect from your system [21:23] stability [21:23] not worrying about EOL upgrades [21:24] then sure, however I was never touched by any problem caused by EOL that I could not fix easily, till now ;) [21:25] I would really like Ubuntu to be on the edge and support rolling updates, but oh well [21:26] Bobrolak: can you pastebin or screenshot the error? [21:30] leftyfb https://appdevtools.com/pastebin/sdkACz [21:31] I guess I should just switch to grub-efi-amd64, right? [21:32] Bobrolak: sudo mokutil --sb-state [21:33] SecureBoot disabled [21:35] Bobrolak: you can try removing shim-signed but I can't guarantee it's not going to cause any other issues [21:38] leftyfb thats what I was afraid of as I don't know if it has any dependencies in signed grub, but tom gives this hint of using non-signed grub and it seems like a good way, I guess I will try to do it, just tomorrow as I have to go sleep now [21:39] thanks for your support, tomorrow I will leave the feedback if it worked or not, gn [23:45] Hey. I got a HP desktop system a year ago. Overall decent. Iirc, I did a standard install of Ubuntu 22.04. Today I discovered I was running X11 for some odd reason. When I switched to Wayland I feel as if its not moving as snappy as before UI wise. Just have Intel Corporation RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750]. [23:46] vainfo gives: vainfo: Driver version: Intel iHD driver for Intel(R) Gen Graphics - 22.3.1 () [23:46] Square: if you make a new OS user (new username and password) and try there, does it work better, or still slow? [23:47] Square: and which particular apps are slow? or is it everything? [23:47] gry: its not night and day big difference. But enough to notice it. I felt hexchat, firefox and intellij at least experience this [23:48] Okay. I'd suggest to add a new user. Log out from your current user. Log in as the new user. Open hexchat only for 20 mins or so and see how that works. [23:49] gry: just curious. Why would a new user help? [23:50] May be a misconfiguration in the existing user. [23:52] ok, ill try it [23:58] I have severe memory leak problems. I am using IntelliJ, Java, Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04. Is that normal?