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SquareAnyone know if hyprland is packaged so it can be installed with apt? 00:09
Squareon 22.0400:09
Squareoh, seems experimental even on 23.0400:14
EickmeyerSquare: That's also an appropriate question in #ubuntu. Seems as if you need to learn the difference between discussion and support.00:26
EickmeyerSorry if that sounded grumpy, not meant that way. :)00:26
* Eickmeyer needs food.00:27
Squarei thought that was outside core "support"00:27
SquareI wonder what qualifies for discussion?00:27
EickmeyerStill talking about Ubuntu, but not asking "help" questions. Asking if something is packaged qualifies, but can also be answered by searching packages.ubuntu.com00:37
EickmeyerSquare: ^00:37
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Squareok00:42
lotuspsychjegood morning02:41
lotuspsychje!isitoutyet03:55
ubottuYeees! Ubuntu 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) is OUT! Download it at https://ubuntu.com/download03:55
lotuspsychje:p03:55
guiverclotuspsychje, ubottu isn't wrong :)05:50
guivercthere are a few marked ready for mantic - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/449/builds05:51
lotuspsychjehehe guiverc 06:12
lotuspsychjeping me when 24.04 devel is ready :p06:12
guivercLOL06:12
guivercI'd expect the repos to be active in 8-9 days time, but ISO spins won't be for at least a week (if not longer) after that..06:13
guivercI've seen nn dev talk in #lubuntu-devel already06:14
lotuspsychjecool06:15
lotuspsychje!no isitoutyet is <reply> No, not yet08:52
ubottuYou are editing an alias.  Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm08:52
lotuspsychjewhats that08:53
tomreynthat's ubottu telling you that what you tried to edit, !isitoutyet , is actually an alias to a different factoid.08:55
tomreyn!-isitoutyet08:57
ubottuisitoutyet@isitout - no aliases - added by tsimpson on 2010-04-28 12:45:55 - last edited by Pici on 2015-10-05 14:20:25 - requested 36 times08:57
tomreyn!isitout08:57
ubottuYeees! Ubuntu 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) is OUT! Download it at https://ubuntu.com/download08:57
tomreyn!-isitout08:57
ubottuisitout - aliases: outyet, is it out yet, releasetime, isitoutyet, countdown-#ubuntu-release-party, isitout? - added by LjL on 2008-10-30 01:48:02 - last edited by krytarik on 2023-04-20 20:48:03 - requested 2571 times08:57
lotuspsychjephew08:58
tomreynyou can also view this on https://ubottu.com if it's easier there09:00
tomreynhttps://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=isitoutyet09:01
lotuspsychjeah so i should request on to !isitout ?09:02
tomreynyes, because that's the actual factoid09:02
lotuspsychjetnx tomreyn 09:02
lotuspsychje!no isitout is <reply> No, not yet09:02
tomreynthose are always listed first, with aliases next: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=Yeees%21+Ubuntu+23.04+%28Lunar+Lobster%29+is+OUT%2109:03
lotuspsychjei see09:03
tomreynthe issue with the web interface is the blank spaces can be a blank space or can be a separator to the next alias.09:03
tomreynbut you can query ubottu with !-somefactoid to see the aliases, separated by comma09:03
lotuspsychjeyep09:04
tomreynreverse aliases rather. aliases are shown as alias@originalfactoid, as seen above09:04
tomreynand while we're at it - if you have a factoid such as !countdown-#ubuntu-release-party (taken from above reverse aliases list), then it applies to the given channel only, so the aliases !countdown only works in #ubuntu-release-party (and only if ubottu or one of the other factid serving bots is there)09:06
lotuspsychjei see09:07
lordievaderGood afternoon 10:46
ice9what time 23.10 will be ready for download?11:33
leftyfbice9: when it's ready. In the 5 years you have been around and the 18 years Ubuntu has been around, there has never been a specific time when it gets released.12:31
luna-23.10 time :)14:14
ice9luna-, ??14:53
ice9it's still not available yet14:54
EickmeyerPatience.....14:58
tomreynlotuspsychje: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=ubottu.com%2Fy%2Fannounce15:32
luna-https://releases.ubuntu.com/23.10/ubuntu-23.10-desktop-amd64.iso16:05
ravagedont link direct downloads before the official annoucement please16:05
luna-ravage: sorry just found it on Distrowatch16:06
Eickmeyerluna-: Just because it's there doesn't mean it's officially released as it hasn't completed mirror propogation yet. Please refrain from posting the .iso links until the official release email has been sent. You can see that at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/16:06
luna-okay16:06
EickmeyerDistrowatch (and all other unofficial sites) want to be the first, so the jump the gun and screw everything up for the release team. It happens every six months and causes problems and only delays the release more.16:06
Eickmeyer*they jump the gun16:07
utkojhamelaIs there any rss or atom link for https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/16:25
utkojhamelaor for any other link where it can be subscirbed for getting the official release news?16:25
EickmeyerThere is not.16:25
EickmeyerOne would just have to subscribe to the mailing list and get it via email.16:25
Eickmeyerutkojhamela: Here is where you'd subscribe via email: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce16:26
utkojhamelaYes I'v seen that, I was searching for a rss or atom link though. Ty :)16:28
tomreynmaybe https://fridge.ubuntu.com/category/release/feed/ will work for your needs16:31
tomreynutkojhamela: ^16:32
utkojhamelaYes yes thank you ヽ(♡‿♡)ノ 16:33
EickmeyerTo be fair, though, the fridge post is a manual post after the email post goes out.16:34
tomreynso it's guaranteed not to be too early. and not guaranteed, but likely, to be not sooo much later.16:36
ravageutkojhamela: https://kill-the-newsletter.com/16:37
ravagecreate a rss feed of the inbox16:37
utkojhamelaGood thing ^^16:38
tomreynhah, nice service16:39
EickmeyerGenius move.16:39
EickmeyerEmail is in process now, mirroring is done.16:43
ravageFirst test for my feed :D16:50
utkojhamela:D17:27
tomreynleftyfb: i think we should introduce a rule where we identify and remove at least one outdated factoid before we add new ones. and i'm currently too lazy to do the former. also the new one would need to be much shortened.23:48
leftyfbis that something I have access to?23:49
tomreyni would assume not, but you could phrase a suggestion, ideally in ready-made format how the bot likes it, and post it to #ubuntu-bots23:53
tomreynlotuspsyche tends to post such suggestions here, as you have probably seen, too23:53
tomreyn<lotuspsychje> !no isitoutyet is <reply> No, not yet23:54
tomreyn...would have been the latest23:54
tomreynit's a limnoria bot23:54
leftyfbthere's 49 rules, most with multiple triggers23:55
leftyfbdamn, didn't know there was a !best23:55
tomreynsurely more than 49 https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi23:56
leftyfbthat's the page I'm on23:56
leftyfbI counted23:56
tomreynthere's pagination on top of the page23:56
tomreynand a link to the DB file23:56
leftyfboh wow!23:56
leftyfbok, yeah, that's too many23:56
leftyfbman23:56

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