[00:09] <Square> Anyone know if hyprland is packaged so it can be installed with apt? 
[00:09] <Square> on 22.04
[00:14] <Square> oh, seems experimental even on 23.04
[00:26] <Eickmeyer> Square: That's also an appropriate question in #ubuntu. Seems as if you need to learn the difference between discussion and support.
[00:26] <Eickmeyer> Sorry if that sounded grumpy, not meant that way. :)
[00:27]  * Eickmeyer needs food.
[00:27] <Square> i thought that was outside core "support"
[00:27] <Square> I wonder what qualifies for discussion?
[00:37] <Eickmeyer> Still talking about Ubuntu, but not asking "help" questions. Asking if something is packaged qualifies, but can also be answered by searching packages.ubuntu.com
[00:37] <Eickmeyer> Square: ^
[00:42] <Square> ok
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !isitoutyet
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:50] <guiverc> lotuspsychje, ubottu isn't wrong :)
[05:51] <guiverc> there are a few marked ready for mantic - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/449/builds
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> hehe guiverc 
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> ping me when 24.04 devel is ready :p
[06:12] <guiverc> LOL
[06:13] <guiverc> I'd expect the repos to be active in 8-9 days time, but ISO spins won't be for at least a week (if not longer) after that..
[06:14] <guiverc> I've seen nn dev talk in #lubuntu-devel already
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> cool
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !no isitoutyet is <reply> No, not yet
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> whats that
[08:55] <tomreyn> that's ubottu telling you that what you tried to edit, !isitoutyet , is actually an alias to a different factoid.
[08:57] <tomreyn> !-isitoutyet
[08:57] <tomreyn> !isitout
[08:57] <tomreyn> !-isitout
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> phew
[09:00] <tomreyn> you can also view this on https://ubottu.com if it's easier there
[09:01] <tomreyn> https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=isitoutyet
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> ah so i should request on to !isitout ?
[09:02] <tomreyn> yes, because that's the actual factoid
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> tnx tomreyn 
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !no isitout is <reply> No, not yet
[09:03] <tomreyn> those are always listed first, with aliases next: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=Yeees%21+Ubuntu+23.04+%28Lunar+Lobster%29+is+OUT%21
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> i see
[09:03] <tomreyn> the issue with the web interface is the blank spaces can be a blank space or can be a separator to the next alias.
[09:03] <tomreyn> but you can query ubottu with !-somefactoid to see the aliases, separated by comma
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> yep
[09:04] <tomreyn> reverse aliases rather. aliases are shown as alias@originalfactoid, as seen above
[09:06] <tomreyn> and while we're at it - if you have a factoid such as !countdown-#ubuntu-release-party (taken from above reverse aliases list), then it applies to the given channel only, so the aliases !countdown only works in #ubuntu-release-party (and only if ubottu or one of the other factid serving bots is there)
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> i see
[10:46] <lordievader> Good afternoon 
[11:33] <ice9> what time 23.10 will be ready for download?
[12:31] <leftyfb> ice9: when it's ready. In the 5 years you have been around and the 18 years Ubuntu has been around, there has never been a specific time when it gets released.
[14:14] <luna-> 23.10 time :)
[14:53] <ice9> luna-, ??
[14:54] <ice9> it's still not available yet
[14:58] <Eickmeyer> Patience.....
[15:32] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=ubottu.com%2Fy%2Fannounce
[16:05] <luna-> https://releases.ubuntu.com/23.10/ubuntu-23.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:05] <ravage> dont link direct downloads before the official annoucement please
[16:06] <luna-> ravage: sorry just found it on Distrowatch
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> luna-: Just because it's there doesn't mean it's officially released as it hasn't completed mirror propogation yet. Please refrain from posting the .iso links until the official release email has been sent. You can see that at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[16:06] <luna-> okay
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> Distrowatch (and all other unofficial sites) want to be the first, so the jump the gun and screw everything up for the release team. It happens every six months and causes problems and only delays the release more.
[16:07] <Eickmeyer> *they jump the gun
[16:25] <utkojhamela> Is there any rss or atom link for https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[16:25] <utkojhamela> or for any other link where it can be subscirbed for getting the official release news?
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> There is not.
[16:25] <Eickmeyer> One would just have to subscribe to the mailing list and get it via email.
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> utkojhamela: Here is where you'd subscribe via email: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[16:28] <utkojhamela> Yes I'v seen that, I was searching for a rss or atom link though. Ty :)
[16:31] <tomreyn> maybe https://fridge.ubuntu.com/category/release/feed/ will work for your needs
[16:32] <tomreyn> utkojhamela: ^
[16:33] <utkojhamela> Yes yes thank you ヽ(♡‿♡)ノ 
[16:34] <Eickmeyer> To be fair, though, the fridge post is a manual post after the email post goes out.
[16:36] <tomreyn> so it's guaranteed not to be too early. and not guaranteed, but likely, to be not sooo much later.
[16:37] <ravage> utkojhamela: https://kill-the-newsletter.com/
[16:37] <ravage> create a rss feed of the inbox
[16:38] <utkojhamela> Good thing ^^
[16:39] <tomreyn> hah, nice service
[16:39] <Eickmeyer> Genius move.
[16:43] <Eickmeyer> Email is in process now, mirroring is done.
[16:50] <ravage> First test for my feed :D
[17:27] <utkojhamela> :D
[23:48] <tomreyn> leftyfb: i think we should introduce a rule where we identify and remove at least one outdated factoid before we add new ones. and i'm currently too lazy to do the former. also the new one would need to be much shortened.
[23:49] <leftyfb> is that something I have access to?
[23:53] <tomreyn> i would assume not, but you could phrase a suggestion, ideally in ready-made format how the bot likes it, and post it to #ubuntu-bots
[23:53] <tomreyn> lotuspsyche tends to post such suggestions here, as you have probably seen, too
 !no isitoutyet is <reply> No, not yet
[23:54] <tomreyn> ...would have been the latest
[23:54] <tomreyn> it's a limnoria bot
[23:55] <leftyfb> there's 49 rules, most with multiple triggers
[23:55] <leftyfb> damn, didn't know there was a !best
[23:56] <tomreyn> surely more than 49 https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[23:56] <leftyfb> that's the page I'm on
[23:56] <leftyfb> I counted
[23:56] <tomreyn> there's pagination on top of the page
[23:56] <tomreyn> and a link to the DB file
[23:56] <leftyfb> oh wow!
[23:56] <leftyfb> ok, yeah, that's too many
[23:56] <leftyfb> man