[03:06] <LuckyMan> so today is the big day!
[09:14] <Dennis59> so.. today is the day, yes?
[09:16] <kc2bez> Dennis59: Yes, today is the scheduled release day.
[13:36] <aurolac> eta on release ?
[13:59] <aurolac> this looks final https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/23.10/release/
[14:01] <jStefan> you shouldn't post links until it's officially announced. An image could still be re-uploaded later in the day
[14:02] <aurolac> this is true hoever the checksum points otherwise
[14:02] <aurolac> s/hoever/however
[14:04] <jStefan> the checksum that ALSO hasn't been officially announced? Those would be updated together
[14:05] <jStefan> What I'm trying to say is, that IS an image of mantic, but it may or may not be the final release image.
[14:32] <tomreyn> you can tell the release is done by looking for an email saying so here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-September/thread.html
[14:39] <Eickmeyer> It'd really be something showing up in the October threads which don't appear yet: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[14:42] <Dennis53> is that the only source we can watch?
[14:46] <tomreyn> Thanks, Eickmeyer, you're right, there, of course (I just got up, still dizzy).
[14:46] <tomreyn> Dennis53: you can also subscribe to this announcement mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[14:48] <tomreyn> (it can take a few hours for those thousands of emails to get distributed, though)
[14:52] <Eickmeyer> Mirrors are all syncing now, so release is in the final stages.
[14:53] <aurolac> usually its 4pm approx GMT time
[14:53] <aurolac> or thereabouts 
[14:56] <Eickmeyer> aurolac: Not true. It's ready when it's ready. (I say as being Ubuntu Studio's lead for the past 5 years).
[14:57] <aurolac> dunno dude, last 19 years its been post 4 pm :P
[14:58] <aurolac> but there are always exceptions
[15:00]  * Eickmeyer doesn't know why people argue with him every six months when it's literally his job to know
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> I will concede that it's likely to be appx 4pm GMT as that's the trend right now as I watch the progress.
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> But nobody should ever estimate an exact time.
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> 22.10 didn't happen until 19:13 UTC
[15:28] <guiverc> there has been tons of variation in timing since I've been posting releases to fridge (since 2017)... I can't start until ML post is out, and ML time varies significantly
[15:55] <LuckyMan> will the new store replace the old one when someone upgrades?
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[15:57]  * Eickmeyer reported the bug when it wasn't happening to make sure it happens, and that got fixed
[16:08] <jStefan> is there a way to always run an experimental release of ubuntu without ever switching the release name? afaik debian could do it
[16:10] <tomreyn> There's no equivalent to 'Debian Sid' in Ubuntu land. Ubuntu assigns a release name to the future release shortly after the previous release.
[16:12] <jStefan> i was given this answer in the release party channel: <luna-> jStefan: just changes sources.lst to devel: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> jStefan: All that does it move you to the "next" archive automatically. There is no equivalent of "sid".
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> That said, the "next" isn't open yet, so at this point it does nothing.
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> Also makes it incredibly difficult to add PPAs.