[03:06] so today is the big day! [09:14] so.. today is the day, yes? [09:16] Dennis59: Yes, today is the scheduled release day. [13:36] eta on release ? [13:59] this looks final https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/23.10/release/ [14:01] you shouldn't post links until it's officially announced. An image could still be re-uploaded later in the day [14:02] this is true hoever the checksum points otherwise [14:02] s/hoever/however [14:04] the checksum that ALSO hasn't been officially announced? Those would be updated together [14:05] What I'm trying to say is, that IS an image of mantic, but it may or may not be the final release image. [14:32] you can tell the release is done by looking for an email saying so here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-September/thread.html [14:39] It'd really be something showing up in the October threads which don't appear yet: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ [14:42] is that the only source we can watch? [14:46] Thanks, Eickmeyer, you're right, there, of course (I just got up, still dizzy). [14:46] Dennis53: you can also subscribe to this announcement mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce [14:48] (it can take a few hours for those thousands of emails to get distributed, though) [14:52] Mirrors are all syncing now, so release is in the final stages. [14:53] usually its 4pm approx GMT time [14:53] or thereabouts [14:56] aurolac: Not true. It's ready when it's ready. (I say as being Ubuntu Studio's lead for the past 5 years). [14:57] dunno dude, last 19 years its been post 4 pm :P [14:58] but there are always exceptions [15:00] * Eickmeyer doesn't know why people argue with him every six months when it's literally his job to know [15:02] I will concede that it's likely to be appx 4pm GMT as that's the trend right now as I watch the progress. [15:02] But nobody should ever estimate an exact time. [15:03] 22.10 didn't happen until 19:13 UTC [15:28] there has been tons of variation in timing since I've been posting releases to fridge (since 2017)... I can't start until ML post is out, and ML time varies significantly [15:55] will the new store replace the old one when someone upgrades? [15:56] Yes. [15:57] * Eickmeyer reported the bug when it wasn't happening to make sure it happens, and that got fixed [16:08] is there a way to always run an experimental release of ubuntu without ever switching the release name? afaik debian could do it [16:10] There's no equivalent to 'Debian Sid' in Ubuntu land. Ubuntu assigns a release name to the future release shortly after the previous release. [16:12] i was given this answer in the release party channel: jStefan: just changes sources.lst to devel: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/ [16:14] jStefan: All that does it move you to the "next" archive automatically. There is no equivalent of "sid". [16:14] That said, the "next" isn't open yet, so at this point it does nothing. [16:16] Also makes it incredibly difficult to add PPAs.