[00:07] <Square> gry, i did what you said. Not sure I could feel a difference.
[00:07] <Square> never mind. I guess I'll just go with this
[00:09] <gry> So not a user misconfiguration. Perhaps next step could be to boot from a live usb (with a wayland) and check for the issue there. This would rule out possible issues with the system install of wayland after x11 was there.
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[01:11] <Bashing-om> !isitoutyet
[01:11] <ubottu> Yeees! Ubuntu 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) is OUT! Download it at https://ubuntu.com/download
[04:40] <mike_> hello
[04:40] <mike_> how are you guys?
[06:17] <ice9> is there a count down timer for releasing Ubuntu ?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !party | ice9 yes
[06:29] <ubottu> ice9 yes: Please remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !mantic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :)
[06:40] <danslo> If I download the daily build, will I need to change any of my apt settings later today when 23.10 officially releases? or will everything continue to work as is (perhaps requiring an apt upgrade?)
[06:53] <guiverc> danslo, if you look at `lsb_release -d` you'll note you're already running 23.10 (if you've been upgrading..)
[06:54] <guiverc> the development release name gets changed when RC is reached (it was a couple of days later this cycle; but occurred; the current FINAL/RC I'd for most will likely be the released ISO
[06:56] <guiverc> ie. looking at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/449/builds you can see which ISO/teams have marked themselves as READY, they won't change unless a specific reason causes them to be rebuilt (and thus ready removed & re-tested etc)
[06:58] <danslo> Thanks, I remember that in the past (not sure if it was Ubuntu or some other distro), I had to update my repositories when switching from a daily build to the final. Was hoping to avoid that :)
[07:00] <guiverc> i'm betting it was a different system, as Ubuntu has never required that (to my knowledge anyway)
[07:03] <danslo> great, thank you!
[07:36] <stuffnthings> If I'm running in Linux, it gets an unclean shutdown, then on the next restart my ntfs drive won't mount, is there a safe, linux equivalent to booting into a WinPE and running chkdisk?
[07:44] <ravage> stuffnthings: why would you need to boot anything? just run ntfsfix on your partition?
[07:47] <stuffnthings> ravage: if i do that, is it safe? if files get truncated would there be a log?
[07:48] <stuffnthings> normally i would boot a winpe and do chkdisk but i am remote at the moment
[07:49] <ravage> i have no insight into the state of that tool. and i dont have anything important on ntfs. so far it at least always made the partiton mount again
[07:51] <stuffnthings> noted
[07:51] <ravage> if it is a full drive you can use a VM
[07:52] <stuffnthings> i was thinking of booting vmw ws and mounting the whole drive, but again, im unsure of the safety
[07:52] <alkisg> You can safely run chkdsk /f from a windows vm in a local partition as long as it's not mounted when you do that
[07:54] <stuffnthings> im not sure how i would do that on a win vm to a real ntfs partition though, aside from mounting the whole disk to the vm
[07:56] <alkisg> Virtualbox supports that, it clones the partition table to a file and then it restricts writes to the specified partition only. I don't know about kvm/qemu.
[07:56] <stuffnthings> only have vmware installed at the moment
[07:56] <alkisg> Check its docs, I don't use vmware
[07:58] <Vish> I would like to reset the appearance on the desktop. i recently tried the macos appearance and did a reset by using dconf but in few applications like files, text editor the minimize,close icons are similar to that of mac. how can i reset those?
[07:59] <stuffnthings> i might try vbox but its pretty tight for space at the moment, on here
[08:00] <stuffnthings> thanks nonetheless, alkisg, ravage
[08:00] <alkisg> :)
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> Vish: gnome-tweaks has a reset gnome to defaults option if you like
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-tweaks
[08:27] <ubottu> gnome-tweaks (42~beta-4, lunar): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-tweaks. Size 59 kB / 412 kB
[08:31] <Vish> lotuspsychje I tried that using the command dconf reset -f /org/gnome/ but still the buttons on the files are same as mac appearance which I had in the past
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Vish: try this: gnome-tweaks/hamburger menu upper left/reset to default/logout or reboot
[08:39] <Vish> lotuspsychje it is still the same
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> Vish: you got the tutorial of your mac theme still you tried?
[08:40] <Vish> I will be able to find it
[08:41] <Vish> lotuspsychje this is the one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDhTIX4k7s
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> Vish: i think you will need to undo the git actions from the venture theme
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Vish: uninstall.sh perhaps?
[08:48] <Vish> lotuspsychje from where do I uninstall it, i mean like what might be the command? I am kind of new to this
[08:48] <tomreyn> https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme#uninstall
[08:48] <tomreyn> https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme/issues/665
[08:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 665 in vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme "Some things don't uninstall." [Open]
[08:51] <tomreyn> you could try these. or, if you did not use sudo to install, you could create a new user account and then move your files there, login as the new user and delete the old one.
[08:57] <Vish> tomreyn tried those but there was an error tweaks.sh was not found even though I have gnome tweaks. Also, have already removed the whitesur from themes and icons folder long back
[08:59] <tomreyn> Vish: okay, i was just guessing. the changes you applied are not packaged in ubuntu. downloading an running scripts from some website can have no, good and bad effects, you can never know unless you read and undertsand the code.
[09:00] <Vish> a good point
[09:07] <Vish> tomreyn lotuspsychje was able to uninstall the theme
[09:07] <Vish> thank you guys
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> !yay
[09:08] <ubottu> Glad you made it! :-)
[09:46] <lektor> HEllo, hello I cannot upgrade my system -- whichever server from Poland I do choose, it fails with
[09:46] <lektor> >>  Error reading from server - read (104: Connection reset by peer) [IP: 153.19.251.225 80]
[09:46] <lektor> E: Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.19_all.deb  <<
[09:46] <lektor> what shall I do ?
[09:47] <TheWebFox> so when's 23.10 being released, I heard it releases today
[09:47] <elias_a> lektor: Try another update server?
[09:48] <elias_a> lektor: Outside Poland, that is... :)
[09:51] <TheWebFox> okay, looks like it won't explode
[09:52] <TheWebFox> it's gonna remove some libs that are no longer used, 8 packages
[09:56] <blahboybaz> You can "reinstall" Ubuntu which seems to mean there is an option to preserve existing files and directories (personal data) when installing. But does this option only work if you are installing the same release? What if you are coming from and earlier release (Ubuntu 20.04) and want to install a more recent release (Ubuntu 22.04) - will you find that the option to preserve your personal data is
[09:56] <blahboybaz> available to you and will you experience any complications using it due to the fact that it isn't the same release as the one you had?
[09:58] <lektor> sudo apt-get update
[09:58] <lektor> Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease
[09:58] <lektor> Hit:2 http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease
[09:59] <lektor> It still depends on that .pl server although I changed the server in the software-updater service ... :(
[09:59] <blahboybaz> lektor: I almost thought I was staring at my command line. I thought "what the hell is going on on my computer?"
[10:00] <blahboybaz> Its all good. Imna have to crash out and come at it again in the morning. Peace out
[10:00] <lektor> Ubuntu is a lame duck , I choose it only because we had already one installation of Ubuntu and I don't want to fool my colleagues by installing diffrent distros of LInux
[10:00] <lektor> what's IMna ?
[10:06] <lektor> blahboybaz ? what Imna ?> anyone ?
[10:07] <lektor> great the grub menu stopped to show up
[10:07] <lektor> why is that ? I removed two entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf , menuentries
[10:10] <lektor> It's the last time I got triced into installing Ubuntu !
[11:43] <iomari891> How can I get a list of all ip/macs on my network outputted 1 per line?
[11:57] <TheWebFox> iomari891, all up or all in general?
[11:59] <TheWebFox> nevermind, I https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48286057/nmap-output-with-ip-and-mac-address-in-same-line
[11:59] <TheWebFox> *I found this
[12:19] <iomari891> TheWebFox: thank
[13:14] <saint_james>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER saint_james bwySkjmcUtr02AnM
[13:18] <geirha> better set a different password
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:30] <aurolac> thanks for your pass jimmy ;)
[13:41] <jStefan> twimc, afaik, there are other ways to login to nickserv, other than /msg
[13:43] <jStefan> eg: SASL
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[15:48] <yes-ubuntu> Hello! I read somewhere that U 23.10 is being released today? Yet, I can not see ANY link to it on https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop :( ? Was the message I read online wrong?
[15:49] <Habbie> where did you read it?
[15:49] <ravage> there is no offical release announcement yet
[15:49] <Eickmeyer> !isitout
[15:49] <ubottu> For all I know, the latest Ubuntu release is 23.04 (Lunar Lobster). You can double-check this on the https://ubottu.com/y/announce *archives* and subscribe for future release notifications.
[15:49] <Habbie> ok, i see the date on several sites
[15:50] <Habbie> https://releases.ubuntu.com/mantic/ appears to have it, but as ravage said, if the announcement isn't out, i'd wait
[15:50] <leftyfb> yes-ubuntu: today is not over yet. Ubuntu releases are not scheduled for a specific time. They get released within the day they say they are released
[15:51] <ravage> if you want to get the iso before all mirrors are synced you can help to distribute it via torrent
[15:51] <ravage> https://torrent.ubuntu.com/file?info_hash=%D0%29%FD%A9%87%8C%A5%FC%2A%7D%C1%FF%9Bp%DFW%B7%EF.%EE
[15:51] <ravage> this way you dont slow down the mirror process
[15:51] <leftyfb> I would not recommend downloading anything until it's been officially released
[15:52] <ravage> i dont see the point not to really. but you do you :)
[15:52] <leftyfb> The iso could change
[15:52] <Eickmeyer> Mirrors are still syncing (including .torrent files) so I expect it to be released within the hour
[15:52]  * Eickmeyer has inside information
[15:52] <ravage> very unlikely. and even if it changes thats not a big problem
[15:52] <LuckyMan> IMO it's better to do it on the weekend, less problematic
[15:54] <ravage> my VM does not really care when i install it
[15:54] <jStefan> for 23.04 is the legacy installer the recommended option? It seems to be judging by the links on the main website
[15:55] <ravage> i dont think legacy is ever recommended
[15:55] <leftyfb> jStefan: you're going to install 23.04 when 23.10 is getting released probably within the hour?
[15:56] <jStefan> leftyfb, i didn't ask for 23.10 so that I would not get a response saying 23.10 is not out yet and 23.04 is the latest one
[15:56] <leftyfb> jStefan: I would hold off till it's released
[15:56] <ravage> jStefan: the big green button downloads the normal desktop iso. the legacy option is below it as a text link
[15:56] <LuckyMan> jStefan, you don't have to wait long
[15:57] <ravage> to answer your question
[15:58] <jStefan> ravage, I think I misread the links, the green button goes to the thankyou page, and then goes to the new installer, and the link below has no thankyou page and points straight to the legacy file. For some reason I thought both links were the same target and was only reading the bottom one.
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[16:36] <ComputerTech> Is it possible to modify the size/font of the calendar on the top part?
[16:39] <pinnerup> 23.10 is out on the homepage: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[16:41] <Guest81> My ggogle foo fails to find out how to use the vim-ale package
[16:42] <Guest81> I.e. how do I load a vim plugin that I installed with apt
[16:46] <yes-ubuntu> Thanks for the update everyone. Meanwhile, another question: about a year ago, I tried to install Ubuntu on Samsung Galaxy Book Go 14" (that has ARM architecture?) This laptop has Windows 11 already preinstalled. Now, after preparing a bootable USB stick, the Galaxy Book Go 14" did not boot from the USB? I tried installing other Linux
[16:46] <yes-ubuntu> distributions, with no luck. Anyone knows if the arm .iso improved at all?
[16:47] <jStefan> Guest81, read intro here: https://installati.one/install-vim-ale-ubuntu-22-04/
[16:47] <tomreyn> Guest81: "dpkg -L somepackage" will list all the files installed by this package.
[16:47] <jStefan> quote: "After installing the package, you can put ‘packadd! ale’ to your vimrc file to activate the plugin."
[16:50] <dust> where is a desktop iso which can be burned on a 4,7gb dvd?
[16:51] <tomreyn> yes-ubuntu: ARM devices are special. there are different subtypes of cpus, and even then more customizations are often needed to support new devices. if you are targeting an ARM device you don't already know works with Ubuntu, it's best to start with a web serach for the device name and "linux".
[16:51] <tomreyn> (to see whether any linux has already been made to work on it, and how)
[16:52] <yes-ubuntu> tomreyn: thank you
[16:55] <ravage> dust: http://www.cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/daily-live/current/mantic-mini-iso-amd64.iso
[16:56] <ravage> But so far it never really worked for me
[16:56] <ravage> You need an Internet connection and enough ram to download the full iso I think
[16:56] <ravage> At least the iso itself is small
[16:58] <jStefan> I remember trying to fit a previous release unto a 4gb usb key, I had to mount the fs and remove some packages I was sure I didn't need. But that's not straight forward to do, and it may break things
[16:59] <tomreyn> maybe debirf works with ubuntu images, too? i have never tried.
[17:00] <tomreyn> !info debirf
[17:00] <dust> ravage, thx found the right one http://www.cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/mantic/release/ubuntu-23.10-desktop-legacy-amd64.iso
[17:00] <ubottu> debirf (0.38, lunar): build a kernel and initrd to run Debian from RAM. In component universe, is extra. Built by debirf. Size 26 kB / 81 kB
[17:01] <jStefan> dust, good observation, the legacy installer is a much smaller ISO
[17:02] <tomreyn> "You will need at least 1024MiB of RAM to install from this image."
[17:03] <jStefan> 4.87 GiB vs 4.08 GiB on the legacy installer. Small enough for a DVD
[17:03] <dust> tomreyn, thats the min for all desktop installs
[17:04] <tomreyn> yes, i'd think so, dust. server doesn't need a lot less also.
[17:04] <tomreyn> i mean server needs less, but not much less, also.
[17:18] <jStefan> Curious why the ISO size is so different? I doubt flutter adds 0.8 GB to the ISO ?!
[17:20] <sixecho2> i see 23.10 iso download is out -- but not showing on `apt upgrade` yet -- does this usually lag? or am i missing something?
[17:20] <Habbie> until 23.10 is announced, don't expect anything to work
[17:21] <ravage> sixecho2: that is not how you do a release upgrade
[17:21] <Habbie> however, i'm not sure what you expected to see on apt upgrade
[17:21] <Habbie> 23.10 has been available in apt for months
[17:21] <sixecho2> Habbie: it's on their home page
[17:21] <jStefan> last time it took 1 day or 2 before they enabled the update via apt
[17:21] <leftyfb> sixecho2: "apt upgrade" will not upgrade to a newer ubuntu release
[17:21] <Habbie> sixecho2, ah! wasn't there a few hours ago
[17:21] <sixecho2> ^ ok - thx
[17:22] <jStefan> didn't meant apt, meant to say the do-release-upgrade command
[17:22] <jStefan> and it's GUI equivalent
[17:24] <supporter> Hello. I have issue. When click in right region of snap VS Code or apt GIMP window focus move to underlying window
[17:24] <supporter> vs code version:
[17:24] <supporter> code f1b07bd2 143 latest/stable vscode✓ classic
[17:24] <supporter> gimp version:
[17:24] <supporter> Package: gimp
[17:24] <supporter> Version: 2.10.34-1
[17:30] <jStefan> !pastebin
[17:30] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[17:40] <tomreyn> jStefan: ISO / installer availability for a new Ubuntu release does not necessarily, and not usually, coincide with the availability of an upgrade path tho this very release. For non-LTS releases such as 23.10, it usually takes "not too long" until upgrades become available, though.
[17:48] <llubosz> hey guys!
[17:49] <tomreyn> hello all sexes
[17:50] <supporter> to jStefan: Should I copy my own text message into Pastebin? Will you tell me then what I should do about my issue?
[17:50] <veegee> yeah, so, canonical should never try to do things differently with their dumbass side projects like "snap"
[17:51] <veegee> every single time they try, it's a complete failure, an absolute garbage fire
[17:51] <veegee> like just focus on the OS
[17:52] <leftyfb> veegee: This is a support channel. This isn't the place to rant. If you want to rant, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or make constructive suggestions in a bug report
[17:52] <veegee> that is a constructive suggestion
[17:52] <leftyfb> not here
[17:52] <tomreyn> constructive criticism is great and welcome - in the right place.
[17:56] <supporter> Should I write to #ubuntu_bugs? Just while I don't understand that I must do.
[17:59] <jpmh_> I'm running ubuntu 22.04 and using a container with systemd-spawn to run another version of it.  But when I try and do things like systemctl I get the message:  System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
[17:59] <jpmh_> How do I solve this?
[18:03] <ComputerTech> Which part of gnome-shell.css changes/affects the calendar's size/font size?
[18:03] <ComputerTech> or even background colour?
[18:04] <Yakov> timedatectl shows bad UTC time, how to fix it?
[18:04] <Eickmeyer> ComputerTech: The yaru theme does that, not gnome-shell.css.
[18:04] <ComputerTech> oh
[18:05] <ComputerTech> so which theme in the yaru directory do i edit to do what i wanted?
[18:05] <Eickmeyer> ComputerTech: I suggest looking in https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru for your answers.
[18:05] <Eickmeyer> That's where it's developed.
[18:06] <ComputerTech> Eickmeyer: Okay, cheers
[18:12] <Yakov> how to call ./program which I always do from my terminal with ubuntu shorcuts (python syntax works and call program, c++ variant does not work)
[18:13] <kucklehead> I am getting this error: "ERROR: failed to solve: failed to read dockerfile: error creating zfs mount: mount zroot/data/home/m0pxn7e5nrwycj62yir6y85d2:/home/nerdsrawesome12/.local/share/docker/zfs/graph/m0pxn7e5nrwycj62yir6y85d2: operation not permitted" which is odd when I already allowed my user to mount,create,mountpoint  already. I can't figure out why it's saying this? Does anyone know why? Or what should I look into to troubleshoot this
[18:13] <kucklehead> issue?
[18:13] <Yakov> quote :/usr/bin/python3 /home/supernova/Desktop/scriptName.py
[18:16] <jStefan> supporter, idk how to fix that, Just pointing out that to paste multilines of text on the chat, you need to use a website and then link the text
[18:17] <ageels> test
[18:17] <ageels> exit
[18:17] <jStefan> Yakov, can you put that on a pastebin ?
[18:17] <ageels> quit
[18:19] <jStefan> kucklehead, is it possible files on that directory are owned by root or another user?
[18:29] <angw97> Hi
[18:29] <angw97> Where can I get help for microstack?
[18:30] <kucklehead> jStefan, Probably? I was thinking it could be an issue with docker itself.
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[18:52] <kucklehead> jStefan, it will work if I run it as root, but I want to hook it up to vscode and I did not want to run docker and everything as root. So i tried the rootless way which you can get the docker.service file on the docker website
[18:53] <jStefan> if you ran it as root before, it's possible some docker files, in your home dir, are owned by root
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[19:13] <Croran> I've been watching some of the development work on getting the new intel Xe video driver into the kernel. looks pretty exciting!
[19:15] <Croran> I wonder how the version numbers on the Intel Arc linux firmware blobs (DMC, GuC, and HuC) correlate to the 'VBIOS' version numbers that GPU-Z shows in Windows -if at all.
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[19:17] <Eickmeyer> Croran: All great discussion, but not really support/help questions. We have an #ubuntu-offtopic channel. :)
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[19:52] <OlegD> have .desktop file, want to call it from favorites tab
[19:58] <OlegD> how to put it here?
[20:04] <ravage> OlegD: you can put user specific apps in .local/share/applications/
[20:04] <ravage> then it will show in your normal application list and you can add it to your favortites
[20:06] <OlegD> supernova@supernova-BOHB-WAX9:~/Desktop$ cp 1.desktop .local/share/applications/1.desktop | cp: cannot create regular file '.local/share/applications/1.desktop': No such file or directory
[20:07] <OlegD> how to correct syntax?
[20:08] <ravage> create the folder first
[20:08] <Habbie> .local lives one dir up
[20:08] <Habbie> not inside Desktop/
[20:08] <ravage> well yes
[20:08] <ravage> ~/.local/share/applications/
[20:09] <ravage> and maybe choose a better name
[20:09] <OlegD> i know
[20:10] <OlegD> its up one directory but how to copy?
[20:10] <OlegD> never copied to that folder before...my files 1.desktop is on Desktop, im currently on desktop, how to copy it to target folder?
[20:11] <blahboybaz> I used chatGPT to ask about backing up and restoring personal data when installing a newer release of Ubuntu and using tar to do the backup and here's what it said: https://dpaste.org/3qiva It's response seems to be on target but I'm hoping to get clarification on a couple things.. In its response point [2] it mentions using the -p flag with tar (which I've done) but it also mentions " When restoring,
[20:11] <blahboybaz> use the same user account as before to maintain ownership." Does that just mean to use the same user and network name in the new installation? In point [3] it says "it may not capture system settings and configurations from other locations ... or hidden files in your home directory (starting with a dot, e.g., .bashrc)." and gives .bashrc as an example. I've backed up /etc and a couple other dirs I
[20:11] <blahboybaz> thought might be needed (just to be sure) but are there any concerns that should arise from this statement given in point [3]? I don't have a local copy of those archives anymore (only on google drive now) so I don't think I have a way to inspect their contents. Is it true that my tar archive may not contain any hidden files or directories (based on the form of the command I used)? Otherwise did it
[20:11] <blahboybaz> miss anything else I should be aware of? I'm about to nuke this installation so this is the time to REALLY find out - last chance (for me)!
[20:13] <ravage> OlegD: mkdir -p ~/.local/share/applications/; cp ~/Desktop/1.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/
[20:15] <OlegD> i opened folder with nautilus and copied
[20:15] <OlegD> what next?
[20:16] <ravage> update-desktop-database ~/.local/share/applications
[20:17] <OlegD> done
[20:17] <ravage> if the file is valid you have the application in your app drawer now
[20:17] <OlegD> https://paste.pics/ec9185ac86008ff78a411a354d9707d8
[20:17] <OlegD> there is none
[20:17] <OlegD> its desktop file which calls my sh script
[20:26] <OlegD> ravage sorry, got disconnected
[20:27] <OlegD> do we have any moves with my .desktop file which points to script
[20:33] <leftyfb> OlegD: what is the name of the application?
[20:34] <OlegD> its script ->  #!/bin/bash nohup ~/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator /home/supernova/Desktop/GUI/CMakeLists.txt &
[20:34] <leftyfb> OlegD: specifically, what does "name=" say in your desktop file?
[20:34] <leftyfb> sorry, Name=
[20:36] <OlegD> https://pastebin.com/NDgcDkpv
[20:36] <leftyfb> GUI-exe is a horrible name, but ok
[20:36] <leftyfb> OlegD: hit the super/start key on your keyboard and start to type: GUI-
[20:36] <leftyfb> it should come up
[20:37] <leftyfb> OlegD: if it doesn't show up, log out of your desktop and then back in and try again
[20:38] <OlegD> yes it does
[20:38] <leftyfb> when it shows up, you should be able to drag and drop it to your launcher
[20:38] <ravage> or just right click and choose "add to favorite"
[20:38] <leftyfb> or that
[20:39] <OlegD> omg
[20:39] <OlegD> it works
[20:39] <Everything> Hi all. How is that possible? I have two boxes with Ubuntu Jammy. First has thunderbird v115, other has thunderbird v102. On both boxes, apt says it's the newest version. Here v115 is newest: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/thunderbird . I ran apt clean, nothing changed.
[20:39] <OlegD> so what fixed my issue?
[20:40] <leftyfb> Everything: firefox is installed as a snap by default, which is version 118.0.2-2
[20:41] <ravage> he wrote thunderbird
[20:41] <Everything> leftyfb: ah, i see. Snapshot may be involved
[20:41] <leftyfb> Everything: sorry, thunderbird, which is version 115 as snap
[20:41] <ravage> thunderbird is available as a snap too. but 115 should also be in the repos now
[20:42] <leftyfb> the ap from jammy-updates is also 115
[20:42] <ravage> so compare your sources files
[20:42] <ravage> maybe something like -updates is missing on one system
[20:42] <Everything> ravage: thanks for the idea
[20:44] <OlegD> why I can not find latest commands in my history including case above? can I refresh history
[20:45] <leftyfb> OlegD: different terminal window?
[20:45] <leftyfb> OlegD: close them all out and reopen one
[20:45] <OlegD> yes
[20:45] <OlegD> prev was close
[20:45] <OlegD> prev is closed*
[20:48] <OlegD> anything I can do?
[20:48] <ravage> if you want to have a shared history file you can but this in ~/.bashrc
[20:48] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/bashrcsharedhistory.sh
[20:48] <ravage> *put this
[20:49] <ravage> you need to login/logout to make it work everywhere. at least do "source ~/.bashrc"
[20:49] <OlegD> I dont understand :)
[20:49] <OlegD> what is syntax for terminal paste?
[20:50] <ravage> maybe dont mess around with it at all then
[20:51] <OlegD> I need it 100%
[20:52] <leftyfb> OlegD: you need what exactly?
[20:53] <OlegD> get full history
[20:53] <leftyfb> OlegD: what does that have to do with "terminal paste"?
[20:54] <OlegD> I mean what is command
[20:54] <leftyfb> for what?
[20:54] <OlegD> I dont understand syntax  https://p.haxxors.com/bashrcsharedhistory.sh
[20:55] <OlegD> I do history > h.txt but it misses some commands from today session
[20:55] <leftyfb> OlegD: then those commands aren't in your history
[20:56] <OlegD> why?
[20:56] <OlegD> i just did it one hour ago
[20:56] <leftyfb> OlegD: could be many reasons
[20:57] <leftyfb> your terminal crash, you put a space before the command, you ran it as a different user
[20:57] <leftyfb> OlegD: if they're not in your history, they're gone
[20:58] <OlegD> i just closed it
[20:58] <OlegD> and now I dont even remember route where should I cd to make some changes
[20:58] <leftyfb> changes to what?
[21:00] <guitarman> Does anyone else have problems with firefox hanging on ubuntu 22.04?
[21:01] <guitarman> not sure if it's the snap or if it's because i'm on ubuntu studio or what.  i've had to switch to chrome because it happens several times a day.
[21:01] <funhouse> Hello, using 22, trying to install sendmail --> sudo apt install sendmail --> E: Unable to locate package sendmail
[21:02] <leftyfb> funhouse: don't, use postfix
[21:02] <funhouse> leftyfb, ok
[21:03] <leftyfb> funhouse: but if you prefer an outdated MTA that is more trouble than it's worth, then enable the universe repo and then you can install sendmail
[21:03] <funhouse> leftyfb, just need it to work with php8.2
[21:03] <OlegD> i have terminal logo on my favorites tab, can I change icon to other?
[21:04] <funhouse> just installed it, php gives me this error now --> sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[21:06] <aurolac> transmission-gtk doesn't seem to stay docked in 23.10, anyone come across this?
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> guitarman: So, can't say I've experienced that. I suspect profile or extension corruption.
[21:08] <xangua> By docked you mean a notification icon? aurolac
[21:09] <aurolac> and when you minimize it, it doesn't seem to be registered as an app so to speak
[21:09] <aurolac> no option to pin to when right clicking
[21:09] <Eickmeyer> aurolac: Transmission might be set to go to the tray icon when minimized.
[21:09] <aurolac> they actually removed that option from settings
[21:09] <xangua> Transmission gtk no longer uses a notification icon
[21:09] <aurolac> design feature? :/
[21:10] <xangua> That's correct aurolac
[21:10] <xangua> Transmission-qt does have notification icon
[21:11] <ravage> the gtk one does not have a proprt icon on the dash
[21:11] <ravage> thats a little annoying
[21:12] <ravage> just the defautl gear
[21:12] <aurolac> when you hightlight the settings cog in panel it shows as 'com.transmissionbt.transmission_64513_etc..'
[21:12] <aurolac> aye
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[21:23] <yes-ubuntu> Hey! I have just read that apt install dotnet6 will install .net 6 from microsoft? Does Canonical have any partnership with Microsoft?
[21:27] <aurolac> they collbora regarding many things, wsl/wsl2 for example
[21:28] <yes-ubuntu> aurolac: yes, I read that too
[21:28] <aurolac> *collaborate
[21:29] <Jedicus> I just ran updates on a Ubuntu Server 22.04 and noticed the CURL patch go by, so I know that's patched.  But I'm looking for a published timeline of any patches released for CVE vulns rated 7.0 ot higher.  Boss wants proof anything over 7 in recent history has been patched.
[21:30] <Jedicus> I know most software has a published list of security updates...
[21:35] <Jedicus> Hmm...  I get get there with a lot of clicking from here.  No dates or ratings on this list.  https://ubuntu.com/security/cves
[21:53] <aurolac> the transmission-gtk version in 23.10 is only version 4.02
[21:53] <aurolac> apt remove it, then go into app center and install tranmission snap which is 4.04 (problem solved)
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[23:27] <ice9> qownnotes via snap on 23.10 crash with: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/1KUqT0wV
[23:32] <aurolac> duckduckgo produced this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1311408/vlc-crashes-on-startup-qt-session-management-error-could-not-open-network-soc
[23:32] <aurolac> seems if you remove fontconfig contents
[23:39] <tomreyn> ice9: if you're wondering whom to report bugs in snaps to, it's best to check this with "snap info $somesnap", or on https://snapcraft.io (or on the software store GUI app), looking for the "Contact" given there.
[23:39] <ice9> thanks
[23:41] <tomreyn> hmm what aurelac found may actually point to a bug in fontconfig, though - not sure.
[23:42] <bray90820> Is it just me or does "do-release-upgrade" currently not work?
[23:42] <ice9> when starting some kde apps, their window loads but their icon show up in the dock after some time, this has been there since 23.04
[23:42] <tomreyn> bray90820: what does not currently seem to work about it?
[23:43] <bray90820> When I run "sudo do-release-upgrade" from the terminal it says No new release found
[23:43] <bray90820> I',m currently on 23.04
[23:44] <ice9> bray90820, you need to edit this file: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[23:44] <Eickmeyer> ice9: Actually, I already reported that bug, feel free to "me too" it.
[23:44] <Eickmeyer> ice9: (the qownnotes bug)
[23:44] <ice9> Eickmeyer, please share the bug link
[23:45] <bray90820> ice9: Even if I'm not on an LTS?
[23:45] <Eickmeyer> ice9: https://github.com/pbek/QOwnNotes/issues/2876
[23:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 2876 in pbek/QOwnNotes "[BUG] Snap crashes upon launch" [Open]
[23:45] <ice9> bray90820, make sure it's set to "normal"
[23:45] <tomreyn> bray90820: quoting myself from some hours ago: ISO / installer availability for a new Ubuntu release does not necessarily, and not usually, coincide with the availability of an upgrade path tho this very release. For non-LTS releases such as 23.10, it usually takes "not too long" until upgrades become available, though.
[23:46] <tomreyn> (also what ice9 wrote, though)
[23:47] <leftyfb> tomreyn: sounds like that might need to be added to the bot
[23:47] <Eickmeyer> Usually anywhere from one day to one week, bray90820, though in this case all upgrade test cases came back good, so it shouldn't take long.
[23:48] <bray90820> What about this issue
[23:48] <bray90820> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/10/ubuntu-23-10-installer-translations-hijack
[23:50] <ice9> in 23.10, closing Rhythmbox only closes it's window but the music is still playing
[23:50] <bray90820> 23.04 did thr same thing
[23:51] <leftyfb> ice9: it's probably still running in your notification area
[23:51] <bray90820> Yeah that's my guess
[23:52] <ice9> leftyfb, it is, but that's not logical, because closing the app from the "x" button should really close it
[23:53] <leftyfb> ice9: that's been a feature of applications on all desktop OS's since the 90's