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jailbreakHow can I grep this file/command? mdgpu-pci-080000:18
jailbreakHow can I grep this file/command? amdgpu-pci-0800 ** typo sorry.00:18
jailbreaksudo grep -c 'temp1_input' /sys/class/drm/card1/device/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input is outputting 0 when it should be 48. Any ideas as to why?00:54
ravagebecause the output of /sys/class/drm/card1/device/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input probably is not temp1_input00:56
ravageso the count is 000:56
jailbreakIt's my GPU temp. Trying to grep it so I can add it to conky...00:57
ravagethen why would you count matches?00:57
jailbreak? I'm just trying to figure it out.00:58
ravagesee the manpage what -c is00:58
ravageit is not what you want00:58
jailbreakThen *what* do I want??00:59
ravageprobably just "cat /sys/class/drm/card1/device/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input"00:59
jailbreakravage: nope. I need to use it like this: ${color0}${voffset 5}SSD: ${alignr}${execi 5 sensors | grep Composite: | cut -c 16-19}°C01:02
jailbreakHence me looking for grep...01:03
jailbreakgrep | /sys/class/drm/card1/device/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input nope./01:05
EriC^^jailbreak: can you show a sample output of temp1_input01:06
EriC^^!paste01:06
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:06
jailbreakEriC^^: http://paste.debian.net/1295019/01:08
jailbreakThat's the temp of my GPU; which I want to add to conky01:08
oerhekslongest tread on the forum https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=234801:09
jailbreakThis also: EriC^^ http://paste.debian.net/1295020/01:09
EriC^^jailbreak: why dont you get it from the 'sensors' output?01:10
jailbreakHow?01:10
EriC^^try 'sensors' see the output01:10
EriC^^you might need to install lm-sensors01:10
jailbreakI've tried. amdgpu-pci-0800 and underneath it says the temp. I can't find amdgpu-pci-0800 anywhere01:11
EriC^^jailbreak: can you pastebin the output of 'sensors' ?01:12
jailbreakoerheks: that doesn't help.01:12
jailbreakEriC^^: http://paste.debian.net/1295021/01:13
EriC^^jailbreak: which temp do you want? edge mem etc01:13
jailbreakedge01:13
jailbreakgpu temp01:14
EriC^^try ${color0}${voffset 5}gpu: ${alignr}${execi 5 sensors | grep edge: | cut -c 16-19}°C01:15
jailbreakEriC^^: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!01:18
EriC^^jailbreak: no problem01:18
webchat44Hey folks, its just me or the kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline is not working :L01:43
Thedemon007ye i see i use this guide https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-latest-linux-kernel-on-debian-linux/01:44
webchat44I was trying to update my kernel since I need version 6.4 for specific hw patch and no fucking link is working all over internet with url kernel01:44
Thedemon007but the repo have only unsigned kernles01:44
webchat44*kernel.ubuntu.com01:44
Thedemon007you pc use secure boot?01:45
webchat44Okay, so where I can get the 6.4 kernel :c01:45
webchat44Noupe, I just need the kernel, I need the .deb packages01:45
webchat44Mainline is not qorking and none tutorial that points to keenel.ubuntu is working01:45
webchat44Im just seeing a 404 each time01:46
webchat44Even with the gui Mainline01:46
Thedemon007ye i know i enter here for same issue XD01:46
webchat44Or CLI mainline "no kernel list"01:46
webchat44Fuck xd01:46
webchat44Canonical went to the shit01:46
Thedemon0076.5 kernel no work for you?01:46
webchat44If you can share 6.5, yeah I guess01:47
Thedemon007if you no have secure boot use this guide: https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-latest-linux-kernel-on-debian-linux/01:47
Thedemon007linux-headers-6.5.7-zabbly+ linux-image-6.5.7-zabbly+ linux-zabbly01:48
Thedemon007if you no know if have secure boot u can try install anyway if some fail only select other kernel in grub01:49
webchat44It doesn't sound secure, who the hell is zabbly? XD01:51
Thedemon007XD a dev i think is he: https://github.com/stgraber01:53
Eickmeyerwebchat44, Thedemon007: This discussion is completely offtopic here. We do not support or discuss adding kernels from outside the Ubuntu repositories here. That is completely unsupported.01:54
rabbitnightmarehow long does it take to change some text?01:56
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: Everything is done, but everything has to undergo testing. By policy, nothing gets released on a Friday or on the weekend. I doubt anything will happen until Monday. If you absolutely need it, the legacy .iso image is available.01:57
rabbitnightmarethat is absolutely retarded and putting my videos behind01:57
rabbitnightmareI need to record it so I can start editing by saturday01:58
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: You have come in here guns blazing every time you come in here. You do not get to demand stuff from the community or the developers for something you get for free. You are constantly violating the Code of Conduct and allegedly that has been for the past 15 years.01:58
rabbitnightmareI do when I donate a grand a month01:58
Eickmeyer!ops | rabbitnightmare Code of Conduct violations01:59
ubotturabbitnightmare Code of Conduct violations: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant01:59
rabbitnightmareyou need to calm down dude01:59
webchat44Dumb question, what is the difference of the normal desktop image against the legacy.iso for ubintu 23.10?01:59
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: Actually, you do. You do NOT get to demand stuff, even when you allegedly donate a grand a month. That's not the way it works.02:00
Eickmeyerwebchat44: The installer.02:00
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Thedemon007webchat44 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/amd64/linux-image-generic/6.5.0.9.1102:00
webchat44Just the installer, nothing else .-.?02:00
Eickmeyerwebchat44: Yep, that's it.02:00
webchat44Alright, thanks02:01
rabbitnightmareEickmeyer that is how the world works, you pay for something, you get to make certain demands. It's nothing personal and nothing for YOU to get your panties in a bunch over when people expect you to stick to the schedule that you promise.02:02
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: Not for something that is community made that you would otherwise get for free.02:03
rabbitnightmareit is certainly NOT a community distro02:03
rabbitnightmarethis is a commercial distro02:03
rabbitnightmaresmh02:03
EickmeyerIt is, with Canonical as the primary sponsor and contributor.02:03
rabbitnightmareyou wanna claim community move to debian02:03
EickmeyerHow do I know? Well, I'm a developer.02:03
elthen pay for commercial support, this is not a commercial support option.02:04
rabbitnightmareEickmeyer and I thank you for your hard work02:04
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: But you don't pay me.02:04
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: If you want commercial support, pay for the commercial support option. This chat is not commercial support.02:05
Eickmeyer(as eloquently stated by el)02:05
rabbitnightmarewell I wont be moving forward for a few months, if changing a few lines of text puts things behind by 96 hours, it just goes to show how little you care about your product02:06
Eickmeyerrabbitnightmare: Again, this is community support, I'm a community contributing developer.02:06
rabbitnightmareyou still get paid02:07
EickmeyerNo, I do not.02:07
EickmeyerI do not work for Canonical.02:07
rabbitnightmarethen you are not an Ubuntu dev02:07
EickmeyerYes, I am.02:07
rabbitnightmarethen you would be getting money from canonical02:07
EickmeyerYou clearly have no idea how it works.02:07
rboxdevelopers developers developers02:08
EickmeyerNot all Ubuntu developers are Canonical employees. That's not how it works.02:08
Eickmeyerrbox: That's not helpful (I don't want to tell you again)02:08
rabbitnightmareI know for a fact that they "gift" contributers02:09
rabbitnightmareI can see the money trail02:09
rabbitnightmarethey are very transparent with the donation line02:09
EickmeyerNo, not at all. So please, stop talking about what you don't know.02:09
Eickmeyerel? Can we get this Code of Conduct and guideline-violating person out of here?02:10
elrabbitnightmare: please stop cycling through the various distros on this network and treating _volunteers_ or paid employees for that matter as your personal property to harass.02:10
rabbitnightmareI am going to have to make a few phone calls02:10
rabbitnightmarethats not right02:10
eluh huh. please leave now.02:11
Thedemon007webchat44 you solve you problem?02:13
webchat44Im building the kernel from source code myself, if that does not work I will swap into 23.1002:14
openfacecool02:14
openfaceif not works snap it to 23.10 ;)02:14
webchat44I rather .04 specially bc its for my workstation so I rather stability over edge updates02:15
Thedemon007webchat44 maybe you can download .debs kernel files from 23.10 here are one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic/amd64/linux-image-generic/6.5.0.9.11 but i think are necessary 3 .deb02:16
openfaceof course rather a stability is reason to use so then edge updates02:16
openfacelol02:17
AKXwebchat44: I have already reported on the Mainline Kernel PPA going dead.  In fact, it seems like the whole reference upstream GIT source tree at https://kernel.ubuntu.org/ is also missing.02:58
AKXwebchat44: There is an ongoing discussion in #ubuntu-kernel Channel.03:01
stuffnthingshas the kernel ppa been ended?04:00
stuffnthingshttps://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ is gone04:01
realivanjxim about to enable ufw on my ubuntu 22.04 server. the question is will it play well with docker?04:01
realivanjxor should i just stick with iptables04:01
AKXstuffnthings:  It appears so.  We have an open discussion/issue/info request open in Channel #ubuntu-kernel.04:32
stuffnthingsAKX: oh ok, thanks for the info04:36
AKXrealivanjx: As a general principal, the less "stuff" you have in the network chain, the better...  Adding UFW on top of iptables adds more "stuff" to the network chain, and also introduces additional processor (CPU) overhead.  On very-heavily loaded servers, the impact may be noticeable.04:39
rboxufw isn't ontop04:40
rboxit just generates iptables rules04:40
Thedemon007i try boot with mantic kernel but graphics no workidk if are a issue of compatibility because i use jammy or is the kernel xorg.log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nNC764SRwY/05:25
tomreynThedemon007: do you have a    dmesg | journalctl -k    of this boot?05:28
tomreynThedemon007: the xsever-xorg-core package you have installed does not seem to be that of mantic05:30
tomreynare you saying you're mixing jammy and mantic?05:31
Thedemon007i try use the kernel05:31
Thedemon007tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wsJpg7rYBv/05:31
tomreynis anything not working when you use the kernel available on your ubuntu release?05:32
Thedemon007tomreyn kernel from jammy work fine only have a minor issue with a device https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/203933405:34
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2039334 in linux-meta (Ubuntu) "Intel usb problem with gamepad device descriptor read/64, error -32" [Undecided, New]05:34
tomreynThedemon007: so why don't you use the jammy kernel, assuming you have jammy installed?05:35
tomreyn(after all that's the only supported option)05:35
tomreynif you're on jammy you have a choice between jammy's vanilla / generic kernel version, the !HWE version and the HWE-edge version (often the same as HWE)05:36
Thedemon007tomreyn ye i k i am now using jammy kernel, only try boot o new kernel for see if the issue are present in new kernel too05:36
tomreynah so there is not really an issue other than bug 203933405:37
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2039334 in linux-meta (Ubuntu) "Intel usb problem with gamepad device descriptor read/64, error -32" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203933405:37
tomreynthis hardware (SIRAGON AIO) appears to be rather uncommon05:39
tomreynis this Síragon from Venezuela?05:41
Thedemon007ye amm i see what linux generic show some msg releated with my wifi i go show05:41
Thedemon007tomreyn ye05:42
tomreynif so, maybe they provide a bios update for your system somewhere around https://siragon.com/soporte/05:42
Thedemon007https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7NdMHMQKW/ UBSAN: array-index-out-of-bounds in /build/linux-13Hbkx/linux-5.15.0/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtl8192se/rf.c:52:11 [   46.682547] index -1 is out of range for type 's8 [59]'05:43
tomreynThedemon007: that's a bug you could report05:46
tomreynor it can be.05:46
tomreyn!bug | Thedemon00705:46
ubottuThedemon007: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:46
tomreynas a workaround, i suggest trying the HWE kernel: linux-generic-hwe-22.0405:47
tomreyn!hwe | Thedemon00705:47
ubottuThedemon007: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack05:47
tomreynThedemon007: sudo apt update && sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04      then reboot into kernel version 6.2.0.34.34~22.04.1105:53
Thedemon007tomreyn is the dafault kernel of jammy i think ? already are installed05:55
tomreyndoes the wireless work with it?05:55
Thedemon007ye no problem with wifi05:56
tomreynLTS releases like jammy have multiple supported kernels, there is no 'default' really.05:56
tomreynif you read the links ubottu posted you will understand your options05:57
Thedemon007amm ok so when a new lts are release jammy can install the kernel of new lts kernel of the new ubuntu lts?06:01
tomreynThedemon007: https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca44906:04
tomreynbut, yes, generally that's roughly how it works06:05
Thedemon007tomreyn thanks i remember read about this but no found nothing now can understand.. I thought it meant that an LTS version could install kernel from another version of Ubuntu like Mantic but now i see what, this no are supported officially06:11
tomreynusing newer kernels is only supported through the backported HWE packages06:12
Thedemon007Ok now understand when version 22.04.4 is released, I will be able to use the Mantic kernel06:22
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ice9is it normal that desktop icons are displayed on the external monitor instead of the primary display?08:45
nightowlno its not08:48
toddcice9: check settings Displays Display mode Join Displays may be set to mirror switch to join08:48
ice9toddc, it's not set to mirror08:49
ice9which package I should file the bug to ?08:49
toddcswitch to join08:49
toddcmirror makes them the same vs join will only show the task bar in the mian monitor08:50
jailbreakEriC^^: you around? trying to do what you did but for "fan1"08:55
leejonesI'm not getting any sound on my ubuntu.09:37
kostkon!sound | leejones09:41
ubottuleejones: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.09:41
leejonesWhere is this volume aplet?09:42
stuffnthingsleejones: the volume icon on the top right corner09:44
leejones_Where is the volume aplet?09:44
kostkonleejones, fair enough, that particular factoid needs updating to reflect the current gnome shell desktop. If you could just provide some more details about your problem09:45
leejones_I don't get any sound on youtube, nor anywhere.09:45
jailbreakhttp://paste.debian.net/1295037/ I can't set the font in conky. It's always default and doesn't change no matter the size I put. Any ideas?09:46
ice9"netfilter-persistent save" is not saving the rules, any idea?09:47
jailbreakNo.09:47
zniavrehttp://paste.debian.net/1295038/ mine is working as expected and i can see some font setup you do not hav in your conkyrc09:50
zniavrejailbreak, *09:50
jailbreakWhat?09:50
jailbreakWhat am I missing zniavre09:51
zniavrejailbreak, i share my conkyrc with some fonts setup in the config section ( before TEXT) maybe this options can helps you)09:53
jailbreakzniavre: conky: Syntax error (conkyrc:50: unexpected symbol near '#') while reading config file.09:54
jailbreakzniavre: my config: with yours added too. http://paste.debian.net/1295039/09:56
zniavre#------------+ those lines are strange for me09:57
jailbreakzniavre: my original config: http://paste.debian.net/1295040/09:58
zniavreim quite sure those lines are wrong09:59
jailbreakIt works....09:59
zniavreconky told you it is not correct anyway10:00
jailbreakNot wrong. Just can't change the font zniavre10:00
zniavreok10:00
jailbreakYes I copied your config and it woldn't work. My original one works. lol10:00
zniavresorry10:00
zniavrei can't help more than that10:01
jailbreaklmao10:01
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ubuntu-cinnamontesting11:29
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stuffnthingstest seemed to work :)11:32
NatSocSiDWhat's happening with kernel.ubuntu.org?11:55
NatSocSiD.com, sorry11:56
NatSocSiDI mean this link: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/11:56
lotuspsychjeseems like down eh NatSocSiD12:03
stuffnthingsthere was talk of it maybe being intentional but thats unclear12:07
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faekjarzHow do you tell nmcli not to use a pager? TERM=dumb is not an option, because i want color. Is there a not-a-pager pager that doeasnt actually page? Alternatively, how do i tell the more pager to just dump everything into the terminal.12:27
lotuspsychjeplease no crossposting in several channels faekjarz12:28
faekjarzaye12:29
BluesKajHi all12:53
jailbreakI posted on the Ubuntu forums. Need some help with Conky. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249159012:54
pickanickHi I notice on one Kubuntu system upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS I do not have a Kubuntu Secure Boot Signing Key, while on a freshly installed Kubuntu,  I do.   What's it used to sign? Why might it be missing on the first computer and should I try to get it there?12:59
pickanick[ ^ previously posted to Kubuntu w/o response ^ ]13:01
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mozambiquedo you think that we can make freedos a new updated system with the help of kernel.org13:49
jeremy31mozambique: That is not an Ubuntu support issue13:52
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pickanickIn  Discover (Software)  Settings : Firmware options there is lvfs and "vendor-directory".  Who/when should use "vendor-directory"?14:09
pickanickah found https://askubuntu.com/questions/1330872/what-is-the-difference-between-lvfs-and-vendor-directory14:10
mozambiquenew idea14:13
mozambiquelet me know14:13
mozambiqueI wish kernel.org would take a look at freedos, it's an open-source system.14:13
mozambiqueUse the linus code and transform it into .exe14:13
mozambiqueA change to the title, kernel.org deals with .exe14:13
mozambiqueWhat do you think of the idea?14:13
mozambiqueRahim 21420812514:13
tomreynmozambique: you're off-topic again. this is not a discussion forum, but exclusively a place for support with issues on supported ubuntu releases.14:14
pickanickOn first "apt upgrade" there were many many warnings about "Possibly missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/ga.... for module nouveau" Is that expected on the first boot? I tried rebooting and was not shown a second round of MOK enrolment  as some old documentation  seems to suggest ( (It seems Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS  does not have an installation guide)14:14
pickanicktomreyn : I notice after reboot after first 'apt update' there are in dmesg several nouveau lines that report firmware unavailable. What can I do about this?14:29
tomreynpickanick: most of the time, these warnings are benign. ubuntu provides firmware needed by the drivers that come with the same ubuntu release in the linux-firmware (and some other, driver / hardware specific) packages.14:32
tomreynoften, kernel modules (drivers) have support for optional firmware, but this is not actrually required. such would also be listed on the output you saw.14:33
pickanicktomreyn : after these warnings there appears to be a BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference and a Call Trace, please see  https://bpa.st/MWDA14:40
tomreynpickanick: nouveau lacks support for current nvidia generation hardware because the company does not make documentation available, so no open source support is possible. consider using the nvidia proprietary or 'open' drivers.14:43
tomreyn(i don't *know* whether that's the cause of your kernel oops, but it seems likely)14:43
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pickanickFor installing nvidia proprietary on a laptop should I follow the server documentation  https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/nvidia-drivers-installation or something else ?14:47
pickanickor https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or something else?14:48
pickanickBinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia (last edited 2021-08-0614:49
tomreynpickanick: i would think this guide still applies for the most part. if you use the laptop with a graphical user interface, you should not install the nvidia-*-server packages14:53
pickanickok I do use the laptop with a graphical user interface, are the server packages incompatible or just insufficient (maybe they only provide CUDA like functionality) ?14:55
tomreynhave you read their description in your favorite package manager? because i assume it would tell.14:56
pickanickgreat idea14:56
pickanickIf Ubuntu seems unable to power off the laptop what can I do to get it working?14:57
pickanickfwupdmgr said a reboot was needed to use new (UEFI BIOS) firmware; after agreeing to reboot, the laptop is stuck at the DELL logo on its way to reboot14:59
tomreyna bios update is a good idea if they system fails to shutdown properly in normal operation.15:01
tomreynuefi upgrades through LVFS are usually staged only, they install on next reboot, which can take a while (and, as every firmware upgrade, must not be interrupted). i could only speculate what happened in your case, though.15:02
tomreynunfortunately the nvidia-*-server packages lack a proper package description. but i'm pretty sure they are only meant to be used on server-like computers where they add GPU compute support.15:03
pickanickI do not think the reboot happened yet, with 22.04.03 I've had to force the power off15:03
tomreyna better option to forcing power off is the 'magic sysrq'15:04
tomreyn!sysrq15:04
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key15:04
pickanickHmm I may have to hold Fn down too. .... I'm not seeing anything happen15:07
pickanickTried with and without Fn, nothing.15:08
tomreynwhen you want to test it, it's best to use 'h' (not s, u or b) while looking at a !tty15:09
tomreynthis should print a line starting with "sysrq:" on screen15:09
pickanickI'm going to hold down the power key and hope I don't need the warrantee service15:10
pickanickHappiness ... on power up the firmware is being updated.15:11
tomreynthe 'magic sysrq' only works while linux is running, i'm not sure which state your system was in there.15:12
tomreynColti: please fix your client15:13
pickanickI have only been able to use SysReq in the [virtual?] terminals you get with Cntl-Alt-F2+15:13
pickanickShould it work when in the graphical interface? I've never gotten it to work then.15:14
tomreynyou can use it everywhere, but you won't see any output if you're not looking at a tty or your kernel logs15:14
pickanickHave you successfully used it to reboot from inside a graphical session?  When they hang it's never worked for me yet.15:15
pickanick(I never tried when its working fine tho)15:17
pickanickI am trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ; where is the notification or icon "reminding you that restricted drivers are available. "  and where do I go to choose proprietary drivers?15:21
tomreynyes, i have successfully used magic sysrq from within a graphical session. you can test whether magic sysrq works there by opening a terminal emulator and doing a logtail on dmesg, i.e. run   sudo dmesg -w    or   journalctl -kf15:23
tomreynwhen the 'h' sysrq is pressed, you will see a "sysrq: ..." notice there.15:23
tomreynyou can choose proprietary drivers from Settings15:24
tomreynthat's on gnome-shell, i'm not sure about the other graphical desktops.15:24
tomreynif you prefer managing this without a GUI, there's also the "ubuntu-drivers" CLI15:25
tomreyni think the notification or icon "reminding you that restricted drivers are available." is only shown once after a fresh installation, but not sure.15:26
pickanickOh maybe I should use a hwe or oem kernel ?  This laptop is certified with Ubuntu 20.0415:26
tomreyni think the idea there is that you can either use a laptop maufacturer provided OEM image to install, or you can use standard ubuntu with its standard kernel images.15:28
tomreynin the latter case, it should not matter which ubuntu release you're using, but not all hardware components may be fully supported (which, most of the time, is not an issue).15:29
pickanickubuntu-drivers devices, ubuntu-drivers list, ubuntu-drivers list-oem  all return silently.15:29
pickanickshould nvidia show up if theres an NVIDIA card?15:31
TheWebFoxif it's not a too old card, yes15:32
tomreynhmm, not sure what would cause this if you actually have nvidia hardware. maybe try the GUI instead.15:34
pickanickOK maybe I have to install GNOME just to see the GNOME Restricted Drivers.  What packages do I need?15:35
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tomreynwhich desktop are you using now?15:35
pickanickKubuntu 22.04.315:36
tomreynYou could try #kubuntu and https://kubuntu.org/support/ for help with the Kubuntu GUI applications.15:37
pickanickAsking there, but if ubuntu-drivers devices shows nothing maybe that is a problem?15:42
tomreynif you actuall yhave nvidia hardware, and have all relevant apt repositories enabled, then it can be a bug15:44
pickanickhmm the KDE "Discover" app now does not run15:46
pickanickwhich is the GUI  for Software / Updates15:46
bitbingeHow do I make ubuntu22.04.3's grub not wait 30 seconds in the bootloader on boot?15:49
tomreynpickanick: does   sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade      run without errors or warnings on a terminal emulator, though?16:03
tomreynbitbinge: is this on a fresh install? normally, it would not do so.16:05
bitbingeYes, fresh install.16:08
bitbingeAnd yes, no errors.16:09
webchat63Hi. Please, Can someone help me set up the microphone? https://paste.debian.net/1295060/ Thanks16:10
tomreynbitbinge: can you share /etc/default/grub?  grep -Ev '^(#.*)?$' /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999916:11
bitbingevbeprobe in it's command line doesn't work either and it's very very slow.16:11
tomreynvery slow running Linux, too, or just grub?16:13
bitbingeI only changed one line, this is stock.16:13
bitbingeOnly grub.16:13
tomreyndoes it happen when you undo the one line change, though?16:13
bitbingeYup.16:14
tomreynmaybe look for a bios upgrade16:16
tomreynor try setting a suitable GFX mode in /etc/default/grub , such as GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024x32,auto16:17
bitbingeI just changed another line GRUB_GFXMODE and that correctly worked. So something prevents this specific timeout var to change.16:17
bitbingeWhat does auto do in here tomreyn ?16:26
tomreynbitbinge: i don't remember, have you tried the manual?16:29
bitbingeOK, fixed it. Turns out this is a fault of all those guides, docs etc. that are on the internet. vbeprobe doesn't exist, I believe it was superseded by videoinfo. GRUB_TIMEOUT doesn't work for whatever reason, you have to set GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT... I can't imagine a newby figuring this out for the life of me.16:31
ceibalhola16:44
webchat63With pw-cli ls, how can I identify the ID of my microphone?16:51
aurolacgetting some weird network manager bugs in 23.10, when I deleted a wifi network with say; nmcli c del wifi_name17:32
aurolacit re-appears on reboot17:33
aurolacanyone else confirm this?17:33
jeremy31aurolac: Are you trying to ignore a wifi access point?17:37
aurolacit doesn't appear to delete properly regardless, as with previous releases, its borked17:38
aurolacnetwork manager doesn't seem to play well with my vpn cli either :/17:38
aurolactypically nmcli c d wifi_name will disconnect it, nmcli c del wifi_name should remove it completely but fails to do so17:39
aurolacas it re-appears in list when on reboot and type, nmcli c17:39
tomreynNM automatically creates a profile for devices which don't have one.17:40
tomreynas a matter of usability (on desktops)17:41
rfm23.10 does have the new scheme where NetworkManager stores config info in netplan, so it's not inconceivable there's a bug here.17:42
aurolacyeah i read about the netplan addition17:45
aurolacim scouring launchpad but bug reports as we speak17:46
tomreynoh i wasn't aware of that change17:46
ComputerTechSometimes the buttons on my earbuds don't always unpause music/video on Ubuntu 22.04, but pausing always works right away17:57
ComputerTechany ideas?17:57
cbreak_it might lose track of what was playing18:03
ComputerTechOkay, i fixed it by enabling FastConnectable in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf18:03
ComputerTechworks good now18:03
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MissingMinotaurAny update on when do-release-upgrade will work from 23.04? It doesn't seem to me that should be affected by the installer translation problem on the ISO.19:08
elias_aMissingMinotaur: What kind of error are you experiencing?19:13
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sixecho2`do-release-upgrade` still not seeing 23.10... :-/ is there any workaround?19:57
xanguatime travel19:57
cbreaksixecho2: maybe do-release-upgrade -d? but who knows if you get anything stable with that20:11
sixecho2cbreak: i did try several of the other options -- but yeah i'll pass on that - will just set a reminder for a 2-3 days from now...20:12
sixecho2i know they had the language/translation snafu on the installer -- but was hoping the upgrade wouldn't be further delayed // maybe they're having to check all over20:13
cbreakat least for the LTS, the update seems to be delayed until .1 is released20:14
cbreakI hope that won't happen here, I have vacation now, just in time for the upgrade :D20:14
ph8Hi everyone. I've just upgraded to Mantic from Lunar and no longer have any sound coming out of my speakers. It's an STRIX SOAR sound card. Sound works if I choose my conference speaker as an output (but obviously sound quality on that is terrible). Can anyone help me get started creating a bug report? I've googled the hell out of it and tried changing some alsa modprobe settings, checking the mute in alsamixer, poking around in pavucontrol - but none of it has helped20:33
ph8The sound card works fine on my windows partition20:33
AKXDoes Kernel PPA being down have anything to do with the Malicious / Hate-Speech Language Translations discovered on the Ubuntu 23.10 Desktop ISOs, as reported here: ( https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/10/ubuntu-23-10-installer-translations-hijack ) ...?21:17
elias_aRussians suck. Big time. (No - I am not going to go on with this offtopic rant of mine)21:20
krytarikToo bad you even started it though.21:22
elias_akrytarik: Read the announcement.21:23
krytarikInteresting to assume the topic isn't known.21:25
elias_aWell - volunteers can not support if individuals of malicious nations mess up the sw we are trying to develop and support.21:30
AKXIt is reasonable to presume that if the Installation ISOs were compromised, then other parts of the Tool Chain may have been compromised.  Interestingly, the "Official" Updated Kernels ( including Source / GIT ) on LaunchPad are still available.21:34
AKXI would recommend Ubuntu revoke those as well ( for the time-being ), to ensure integrity...21:35
krytarikAKX: Translations are much easier to tamper with than the actual software.21:36
AKXYes, but now, for safety and integrity reasons, one must presume that Malicious Commits in other sections of the Build / Release Chains may exist, and thus need to be checked.  Submits to the Kernel Tree(s) via GIT would be the first place I started, if I was thinking along those lines...21:38
AKXHigher sense of anxiety / urgency over software safety, perhaps?21:39
AKXClarification:  "Kernel Tree(s)" = "Ubuntu Kernel Tree(s)," not Stock Kernel.org Kernel Tree(s)...21:40
* etc i want to join #hexchat21:41
etcop, please?21:42
AKXChanServ, Drone: Please update MOTD ( Message of the Day ) to inform Users that ... 1. Ubuntu 23.10 Desktop ISO(s) have been Compromised ... 2. Ubuntu Mainline PPA currently Offline.21:45
jeremy31AKX: What has this to do with support?21:45
EickmeyerAKK: Drone is a bot21:45
EickmeyerAKX: Drone is a bot.21:45
EickmeyerAnd... no.21:46
JoeBkplease, what is the channel where 23.10 is discussed?21:46
EickmeyerJoeBk: Clarify.21:46
Unit193"Compromised" is a bit strong, it's a translation that had some less appropriate phrases.21:46
jeremy31JoeBk: #ubuntu-discuss #ubuntu-offtopic21:46
AKXjeremy31: People have been posting questions relating to 23.10 specifically, so I just made a suggestion.21:47
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EickmeyerAKX: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/announcement-ubuntu-desktop-23-10-release-image-is-being-updated-to-resolve-a-malicious-translation-incident/39365 will answer all of your questions regarding the incident. Any more speculation beyond that will not be done here.21:49
JoeBkI see the desktop version of 23.10 has been removed from the website.21:54
EickmeyerJoeBk: See the link I just pasted.21:55
oerheksJoeBk, yes, and official torrents are not ready either, stay tuned.21:56
oerhekshi Eickmeyer21:56
EickmeyerHi oerheks!21:57
EickmeyerThe link I pasted also includes links to the legacy installer .iso image.21:57
EickmeyerI know, I know, it requires reading.21:58
armadefuegoHello all, Anyone available to help someone get a printer spewing paper?22:50
armadefuegothis is something that might help:D [14/Oct/2023:18:57:26 -0400] [Client 37] Returning HTTP Unknown for CUPS-Get-Default (no URI) from localhost22:58
toddc!details | armadefuego23:06
ubottuarmadefuego: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.23:06
toddcarmadefuego: os and DE printer model ect23:07
armadefuegoIts a canon mp280 on ubuntu 23.04. recognised by usb, but can not add it due to failure in cups23:09
armadefuego"Unable to get list of printer drivers"23:09
oerheksarmadefuego, maybe this post is any help https://askubuntu.com/questions/1241091/install-printer-canon-mp280-on-ubuntu-20-0423:13
toddcarmadefuego:   I see two options for drivers for that printer https://en.canon-cna.com/support/consumer/products/printers/pixma/mp-series/pixma-mp280.html?type=drivers&os=Linux%20(64-bit) and https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/ubuntu/canon-trunk23:14
oerhekstoddc,  seen that, old ppa, just posted an updated one23:14
armadefuegoadd printer fails before i cget to the part covered in "that page" ( no select printer type23:15
toddcI thought I posted the newer one23:16
armadefuegols -ls -23:16
toddcarmadefuego: install the ppa or driver first then it should find it23:17
armadefuegocups add printer finds the printer ( its in the list of "options" for local printers.23:19
armadefuegoHowever the add option doesn't continue to the select driver option.23:19
toddcI downloaded the cannon driver unzipped the files till I found the install.sh  and ran that as a program looks ok but with out that printer to test23:23
armadefuegowell it does _something_, but i still can't get anywhere.23:34
armadefuegoMay be relatedto the _down_ printer... somehow...23:34
armadefuegoBecause the lp commands seem to all fail23:34
armadefuegoSorry, but the machine seems to be slow, right now.23:41
armadefuegomy load is at 0, but everything i do with the printer(s) hangs for a while23:46
toddcif cannon would opensource their drivers all would be great but issues with closed source are harder to figure out (printers are not my best area ether)23:49
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armadefuegoyea. i don't _usually_ do their printers, or any at all, if i can help it!23:52

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