| Lantizia | Fresh install of Ubuntu MATE 22.04.3... and I load up Firefox, download a file... and it ends up in ~/snap/firefox/common/Downloads and *can't* be seen in... ~/Downloads | 13:05 |
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| Lantizia | this a known bug? | 13:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | call it a feature | 14:13 |
| superkuh | Containerization strikes again. | 14:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't use firefox any more due to this junk, librewolf wtf. | 14:14 |
| superkuh | It's not a firefox issue. It's an an ubuntu issue. | 14:14 |
| superkuh | They chose to distribute a container based version of firefox instead of actually putting a real installation of firefox in. | 14:15 |
| superkuh | You can always download a real copy of firefox yourself and run it. | 14:16 |
| Lantizia | as a component of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 (even if you choose 'Minimal' install)... it's a UX bug :P | 14:57 |
| Lantizia | user can see a 'Downloads' folder as they browse their home directory... but nothing they downloaded is in it lol | 14:57 |
| Lantizia | surely that should be blocking? i.e. don't release until resolved lol | 14:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | irrelevant of the distribution issues firefox is bloated and not what i want OOTB, having a better fork with it's own proper deb repo is my solution. | 14:59 |
| Lantizia | even if the first thing someone does with firefox out-of-the-box is grab the .deb for chrome... they'll still be wondering where the heck it is :P | 15:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you could install without package manager or use ppa but why should you need to... | 15:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | use the downloads menu from within firefox | 15:01 |
| Lantizia | oh yeah I know all about the ppa that is out there... just shocking to find a more recent iso of 22.04.--3-- having this issue still :P | 15:01 |
| superkuh | Yes. The Containerization of ubuntu has pretty much ruined it. I switched to Debian. I only have old installs of Ubuntu. | 15:07 |
| superkuh | If Canonical ever stops shooting themselves in the foot I'll try it again. | 15:08 |
| superkuh | My advice would be to try Debian with MATE desktop instead. | 15:08 |
| Lantizia | yeah but then you get firefox with flatpak... and whilst I like flatpak's more than I do snaps... it still screws up stuff like keepassxc-browser | 15:09 |
| Lantizia | i did try debian with mate for a little while - was going to give it a re-try with debian 12... but i do find it handy that the ubuntu installer now lets you join AD during the install (handy on my work pc)... even if it is buggy as crap | 15:10 |
| Lantizia | tbh i'm more likely to find a mozilla or ubuntu affiliated packaged copy of firefox as an apt repo (e.g. a ppa) in the ubuntu world (rather than some unknown 3rd party packaging it).... than I am to find a mozilla or debian affiliated packaged copy of firefox as an apt repo meant for debian | 15:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I won't be going back to firefox for the foreseeable. LW has all of the junk is striped out, so much more responsive, firefox have made just as questionable choices as canonical recently. | 15:23 |
| superkuh | sixwheeledbeast, you don't keep at least one firefox around for stupid bank websites, etc? | 15:23 |
| superkuh | I too use FF forks that don't suck, but I do keep a copy of FF around. Even on ubuntu where I install it manually. | 15:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | nope, not required. infact firefox is worse for those. | 15:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | from a UX POV | 15:25 |
| Lantizia | sixwheeledbeast: well I like the look of this librewolf ... didn't know about it until you talked about... any other firefox forks I should be aware of? | 16:20 |
| Lantizia | tbh i hate that pocket thing anyway - and I usually try my best to regress of firefox's supposed "improvements" in about:config furiously lol | 16:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | exactly and LW has a menu for the most common ones. | 16:22 |
| Lantizia | just looked through all the firefox forks that wikipedia has listed... looking at 'Pale Moon', 'Waterfox' and 'GNU IceCat' as well | 16:33 |
| Lantizia | 'Pale Moon' and other stuff based on it might be handy for any legacy npapi stuff - but not really a contender for replacing modern firefox I'd say | 16:34 |
| Lantizia | I'd be tempted by watefox/icecat if the waterfox team and/or GNU actually made it available as an apt repo - but it seems sadly no | 16:36 |
| Lantizia | which makes librewolf the winner :P | 16:36 |
| superkuh | I use Pale Moon. I don't like multi-process browsers. | 16:54 |
| superkuh | At this point it's more Firefox than Firefox. | 16:54 |
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