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| bdrung | Do we want to have https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-open-gpu-kernel-modules in Ubuntu? | 14:01 |
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| xnox | bdrung: probably never, as we already have all of them | 14:09 |
| xnox | bdrung: we compile -open variants already and ship them both as dkms & lrm signed, in restricted | 14:10 |
| xnox | bdrung: as it requires proprietary firmware blob and unusable without it. | 14:10 |
| bdrung | xnox, so remove the package and block the Debian sync? | 14:10 |
| ogra | wow, really ? i thought it was a straight nouveau replacement just made by nvidia | 14:12 |
| ogra | (i.e. not requiring the prop. firmware) | 14:13 |
| xnox | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-open-gpu-kernel-modules/+bug/2039688 | 14:23 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2039688 in nvidia-open-gpu-kernel-modules (Ubuntu) "RM: unused in ubuntu / packaged separately" [Undecided, Triaged] | 14:23 | |
| xnox | ogra: no, it is not. | 14:23 |
| bdrung | xnox, thanks | 14:24 |
| xnox | ogra: it is basically their existing proprietary driver; doesn't have the proprietary functions implemented in kernel code; and requires graphics cards that support the large firmware blob; and everything is done by said firmware blob | 14:24 |
| ogra | wow, evil | 14:25 |
| xnox | and even then the open driver doesn't support all the functionality, even on latest gen cards via the open driver alone | 14:25 |
| xnox | because not everything is yet implemented in the firmware blob | 14:25 |
| xnox | ogra: apperantly propietary .ko is bad; and propeitary fw file is good for upstream kernel. And in ubuntu we think otherwise and ship both still in -restricted | 14:25 |
| ogra | yeah | 14:25 |
| xnox | because moving .ko code to fw blob is more or less the same shit | 14:26 |
| ogra | right, and we prefer full functionality i guess | 14:26 |
| xnox | ogra: i mean we have like 13 different nvidia driver options in jammy; and like 9 in mantic covering desktop, server, open variants of thereof as are available on amd64 and arm64 | 14:43 |
| xnox | so we prebuild and make available everything that there is | 14:43 |
| xnox | and yes, none of them support all cards, and all features | 14:43 |
| xnox | one has to pick and choose to compromise | 14:43 |
| xnox | it's that crap | 14:43 |
| ogra | yup ... owning an nvidia card myself i know the pain | 14:44 |
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