[02:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[18:45] <sem> Realistically are there any foreseeable reasons why upgrading to mantic would not work well, provided you aren't using MATE
[18:47] <ravage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/2034986
[18:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Launchpad bug 2034986 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Mantic) "some text became unreadable during a distribution upgrade" [Critical, In Progress]
[18:48] <sem> I read that and unless I'm mistaken it only affects MATE?
[18:48] <ravage> You are mistaken
[18:52] <sem> I'm trying to learn how to read the launchpad report 
[18:57] <sem> If it says fixed released does that mean the updated package has been pushed to users?
[18:57] <ravage> No it means that the source has been fixed
[18:58] <ravage> It can take a while until it is pushed out to the archives 
[18:58] <ravage> Usually it lands in -updates first
[19:01] <ravage> You really just have to be patient until the upgrade is offered 
[19:01] <ravage> Then all major bugs got fixed
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> In this case it has to be verified, which can only happen when nn opens per the comments.
[19:53] <sem> Ok that makes sense. Does the text change from "fixed released" to something else when it gets updated in the packages?
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> sem: Not in this case. In this case, the package is already released. There's a manual process that enables the upgrade path, which will not be done over the weekend.
[20:03] <Eickmeyer> BUT, that's all contingent on the test validation working.
[20:09] <sem> So fix released, in general, means that the source is definitely updated, but may or may not be packaged
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> No, it's packaged and in the updates. BUT, the people who are in charge of validating it that it's ok to open the upgrade path that the bug is *actually fixed* haven't done so. (the marking of the bug as "Fix Released" is an automatic process).
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> The automatic part is done, but there are manual processes yet to do.
[20:12] <Eickmeyer> There may or may not be further comments on that bug. It will be hard to track from this point forward.
[22:03] <JanC> it might be an option to have a more generic issue about the release upgrade that depends on bugs like this one...
[22:04] <Eickmeyer> JanC: It's on discourse.
[22:04] <JanC> ugh
[22:05] <Eickmeyer> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mantic-minotaur-23-10-release-status-tracking/37887