[00:50] <sem> It's interesting to see how everything fits together, which you don't really think about when everything works according to plan. 
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:55] <TheWebFox> lotuspsychje, good morning
[09:35] <ducasse> morning all
[23:34] <sudobash> tomreyn is suppressing security discussion of Ubuntu
[23:38] <leftyfb> sudobash: sorry, I haven't seen any security discussion in here today
[23:38] <sudobash> ubuntu main channel
[23:38] <leftyfb> sudobash: yes, because that's support channel, not a discussion channel. That's what this channel is for
[23:39] <sudobash> all good, I'll just take it public and Canonical directly since they just banned me
[23:39] <leftyfb> you'll take what public exactly? Banned from where?
[23:39] <sudobash> the suppression of security related information regarding Ubuntu
[23:39] <sudobash> banned from Ubuntu main channel now
[23:39] <sudobash> banned by tomreyn
[23:39] <leftyfb> as noted, it's only for a few days
[23:40] <sudobash> nope
[23:40] <sudobash> permanent and I don't care, it's censorship of security information, the community is going to hear about it and have to decide what should be done about Operator abuse.
[23:40] <leftyfb> and nothing has been suppressed other than offtopic discussion in a support channel. Feel free to discuss ubuntu here
[23:40] <leftyfb> sudobash: you have zero insight into whether the ban is perm (it's not)
[23:41] <sudobash> he said he was permanently banning me
[23:41] <sudobash> how is that not insight
[23:41] <leftyfb> "[19:31:33] <tomreyn> sudobash: you're off-topic on this support chat again. opinion and rants just don't belong here. i'll mute you for a few days."
[23:41] <sudobash> I got banned for mentioning ubuntu's lacking security
 right, no discussion in #ubuntu. we can make it a ban if it has to be.
[23:41] <leftyfb> you got banned for going offtopic multiple times
[23:41] <sudobash> that was said in ubuntu-ops
[23:42] <leftyfb> ah, so you dug your hole deeper, got it
[23:42] <sudobash> no I got banned for talking about Ubuntu's security and that's going to look really bad
[23:42] <leftyfb> good luck with that
[23:43] <sudobash> I make just go to Shuttleworth himself...
[23:43] <sudobash> you smug POS
[23:43] <leftyfb> lol
[23:45] <leftyfb> you were ranting in a support channel after you were told *checks logs* 3 times to discuss your topic in here or #ubuntu-offtopic. All of which you ignored. You have -1 legs to stand on
[23:46] <sudobash> I stopped ranting 30 minutes before the mute
[23:46] <sudobash> it was because I was informing users of Ubuntu's lack of security
[23:47] <sudobash> that looks REALLY bad and the community is going to think so too
[23:47] <leftyfb> you were ranting 13 minutes ago
[23:48] <sudobash> I helped someone and then was informing them about security and that's what got me muted
[23:48] <leftyfb> sudobash: either way, good luck with your crusade 
[23:48] <sudobash> these dumb games are only going to make it look worse
[23:48] <oerheks> .. lack of details, asking why network-manager has disappeared, using netplan which is not standard used
[23:48] <oerheks> lolz
[23:49] <jeremy31> Why would anyone listen to your rants?
[23:49] <leftyfb> nm hasn't disappeared 
[23:49] <sudobash> netplan is standard you moron
[23:49] <sudobash> you know nothing and talk shit like you do
[23:50] <sudobash> tomreyn, I'm reporting you to Canonical Support
[23:50] <leftyfb> netplan is just a way to create and store configuration files which the actual network managers use
[23:50] <jeremy31> !coc | sudobash 
[23:50] <sudobash> yes and I found a dumbass bug in netplan
[23:50] <leftyfb> and what bug is that?
[23:50] <leftyfb> did you file the bug?
[23:50] <leftyfb> got a link to the launchpad page?
[23:50] <sudobash> I already went through that, STFU
[23:50] <sudobash> go read the backlog
[23:51] <leftyfb> ok, so you didn't file a bug
[23:51] <oerheks> he did not file a bugreport
[23:51] <oerheks> so, deal with the $ in your wifi thingy
[23:51] <leftyfb> so you just want to rant, you're not don't actually care if things get fixed
[23:52] <sudobash> because it shouldn't have ever been switched to netplan so leave the bug
[23:52] <sudobash> I want the bug to mess with people
[23:52] <sudobash> why would I report it?
[23:52] <sudobash> I want people to see how incompetent Canonical is, especially now
[23:52] <leftyfb> ok, you can leave of your own accord now 
[23:52] <sudobash> they're the ones who made the horrible decision to switch something that was working perfectly fine
[23:53] <sudobash> they deserve it
[23:53] <sudobash> more people will see how stupid you all are
[23:53] <sudobash> and abusive
[23:53] <sudobash> and NAZIS
[23:54] <leftyfb> missed
[23:54] <jeremy31> He won't be missed
[23:54] <daftykins> that has to have been the dumbest thing i've ever seen you all do, engage with a troll