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Patrick_When does ubuntu 23.10 become available as a normal upgrade? It doesn't show up in update-manager, and do-release-upgrade says no new release found.00:47
leftyfb$soon00:48
leftyfbWe do not have a more accurate answer than that00:49
Patrick_it's alright if you don't know when but do you know if it's being delayed more than usual? If so, why? I don't know if it usually available on october 10th or after a delay?00:50
leftyfbthe upgrade path is never available on the day it gets released00:50
Patrick_I see00:51
ravageif you feel adventurous you can use the -d flag00:51
Patrick_I considered it but considered that there could be downsides. not sure what to think00:52
ravagedownside is that you may run into open bugs00:52
ravagethere is a reason why it is not officially available yet00:53
toddcravage: I assume it is due to retesting for third party issues that delayed the iso release that now need to corrected and verified01:00
ravagei does not have anything to do with the release of the iso01:00
realivanjxwhat is this mount? https://files.catbox.moe/dftedc.png01:01
leftyfbrealivanjx: it's an orphaned snap loopback mount from a snap package version that was updated and the old one removed01:02
leftyfbrealivanjx: there's a bug that's already been reported but hasn't been fixed yet. All you can do it reboot for it to go away. Otherwise, you can ignore it01:02
realivanjxthanks leftyfb it is gone now01:04
Patrick_but I run into open bugs every day on my current release that the last few before that01:24
Patrick_*and the last few*01:24
enycPatrick_: well you know depends how adventurous you want to be :O01:37
enycPatrick_: I don't know if its' still generally true but debian tends to release "when its ready" and ubuntu tend to push a bit fater to fit a schedule and fix issues later.01:37
enycPatrick_: Notice ubuntu certainly for LTS, tend to offer release as LTS-LTS upgrade only after .1 point release at least later.01:38
ravagewell. debian does not release every 6 months01:38
enycindeed01:38
ravageso it you want to compare anything here it is the LTS releases01:38
ravageand they are usually very stable01:39
enycravage: seen trouble myself but usually by .1 ... better =)  but sure01:39
ravagethats why upgrades from LTS are always to the .1 release01:39
enycI remember back in the day 6.04 ending up as 6.06 due to issues  then 6.10 creating fun with dash as sh and allsorts :O01:40
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Patrick_I'll mention a few of the bigger ones in case anyone knows anything about them01:42
Patrick_Gnome doesn't remember window position in X, yet it used to. I know this isn't specific to ubuntu since I've experienced it in Fedora. But it's pretty surprising considering how bad that is, imo.01:43
Patrick_I guess gnome doesn't care about X any more01:43
enycPatrick_: fwiw kde plasma new tools becoming more interesting aiui but another story ;o01:44
eigarWhat is standard font in Firefox on Ubuntu? about:preferences -> Fonts01:44
eigarUbuntu something?01:44
Patrick_In ubuntu 23.04/gnome/X I've experienced muting audio in the main controls, locking the desktop, unlocking, playing audio without touching the audio and it's playing at full volume. It's happened a handful of times.01:46
Patrick_In ubuntu 23.04/gnome/X I've experienced locking the desktop, then for unknown reasons the lock screen disappears for a few seconds and shows open application windows, then goes back to the lock screen.01:47
Patrick_that has happened 2-3 times01:48
Patrick_at that point, I don't know if I should be blaming and abandoning gnome, ubuntu, or both01:49
rboxprobably ubuntru01:50
enycPatrick_: you could try a different variant anyhow ;o01:50
Patrick_I don't know if that lock screen bug is reported and I'd like to report it but I don't know how to reproduce it01:51
enycPatrick_: kubuntu / KDE (or debian+kde)  might be good to 'compare with' and  ubuntucinnamon (or mint cinnamon)  might be nice to try too ... work out what you find fits well, at least thats my opinion ...01:51
enycPatrick_: nice of you to care so much [!]01:52
Patrick_it feels irresponsible to not report it, but I don't know if it will make a difference01:54
enycI don't know either ;o01:54
Patrick_I think I have a slight clue of what's going on01:54
enycPatrick_: there are some links about bug reporting in #ubuntu-bugs channel topic01:54
Patrick_I'm not sure if here or #linux is better to get feedback on the bug01:54
Patrick_or gnome01:55
enycPatrick_: you (might) want to ask there politely about the problem with where bugs fall between lines, but its more for bug team rather than "talk about specific bug"01:55
ruseris it possible for chroot to be failing to launch bash because it can't find a library?02:32
ruser'chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory'02:33
ruserIt seems to me it's failing to find coreutils.mo in chroot env, am i correct?  https://termbin.com/s34502:34
ruserwhops, not it02:48
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morgan-u222.04 got the last update. I cant function with discord any more. when I scoroll it pastes musltiple copies of what is in the buffer and then the input section takes up the screen. It was bad but got worse. NON FUNCTIONAIRE'03:05
morgan-u2kaput03:05
matsamansounds like your mousewheel is broken03:07
matsamanor mapped quite wrongly03:07
matsamanyou got a lot of buttons on your mouse?03:07
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MuckRakerI have to do this for the future security of those to whom have the acolites to do so: here it gooes.03:30
MuckRakerhttps://www.unplugged.com/upphone/03:30
MuckRakerThank you for your time and efforts.03:30
MuckRakerPass it on.03:31
MuckRakerNO More Google.03:33
MuckRakerFreeDome.03:34
MuckRakerGood Nite.03:35
morgan-u2my problem stopped.  NP04:29
DumbLDoorHi All! I have a weird issue here. The caps lock is somehow toggled, it works perfectly fine on the log in screen though. Any idea?05:14
DumbLDoorCAPS LOCK REVERSED - ANY IDEAS?05:17
toddcDumbLDoor: fresh install? caps may have been on during setup and password is backwards05:32
toddc  done that before05:32
sadbeehello06:28
sadbeehello06:28
Billy7Hi06:29
sadbee你好06:29
Billy7你们会说中文吗?06:30
Billy7有人吗06:31
diomanhello06:52
tekisuiprivet06:52
tekisuiwhy does lubuntu keep lowering audio volume ?06:52
tekisuijust at random06:52
tekisuii need to blast ac/dc to wake the neighbours up06:53
toddc!ask | dioman06:53
ubottudioman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:53
tekisuicould telegram be responcible ??06:53
tekisuia message client06:53
tekisuii still remember installing audio manually :D06:55
tekisuisjees06:55
toddctekisui: I use telegram on Gnome with no sound issues06:55
diomanWhat about ubuntu =#06:55
tekisuii dunno am using lubuntu06:55
tekisuilight version06:55
tekisuiok06:56
toddcI think lubuntu still uses alsa but I would check hardware and audio settings06:57
toddcdioman: welcome06:57
tekisuihmm06:58
toddctekisui: not related but the remote volume on my headphones I always seem to bump or set something on the kb volume07:00
tekisuinah i didn´t touch it..07:00
toddcnp just possible thoughts07:01
tekisuiok..07:01
tekisuimaybe it´s youtube07:02
tekisuior firefox07:02
tekisuidanke07:02
Lvl4SwordWas just about to say.. you can go into settings and see what volume is at for individual programs.07:03
Lvl4SwordBut they left, au revoir.07:03
[twisti]on boot of a new system, i am greeted with something about "Expanded Security Maintenance", which looks like advertisements for a paid service, is that right ? its a tiny home server, so im not seeing myself paying for something like that09:01
toddc!pro | [twisti]09:10
ubottu[twisti]: Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq09:10
toddc50 if you are a ubuntu member09:11
[twisti]thanks09:18
SaiukI think, my ubuntu drain my battery anomalously, 30 % in one hour, i came from another debian distro (parrot) but my battery life was very long.09:23
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pantalaimonHi, I get a kernel panic after upgrading to 23.10 because it's unable to mount the root fs. I have btrfs on my root partition and the "List of bdev filesystems" I get as part of the kernel output before the panic does not contain btrfs. Is the module missing from the kernel image?12:47
ravagehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/btrfs/+bug/203871512:49
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2038715 in linux (Ubuntu) "6.5.0-7.7 kernel not working with Btrfs" [Undecided, Confirmed]12:49
pantalaimon😩12:50
pantalaimonI get the same with the 6.2 kernel that is left from 23.04 though12:51
ravagei guess you could manually add the module to the initramfs12:52
ravageadd to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and rebuild it12:53
ravagemaybe you can chroot from the livecd12:53
pantalaimonThank you, I'll try that12:53
ravageyou can try https://p.haxxors.com/initrdimg-65.0-9-generic12:56
ravagethis is the one i just updated in my VM12:56
ravagebut if you are on the livecd anyway it should not be too hard to create yourself12:57
pantalaimonuh I get the same error when trying to boot the LiveUSB13:09
pantalaimonok there I first get /dev/root: Can't open blockdev13:10
ravagebut the liveusb does not even use btrfs13:10
ravageit should start13:10
BluesKajHi all13:14
pantalaimonravage: I know! It works on a different machine13:16
ken-kenHi. Anybody can help me ? i can't connect to libera server from weechat terminal14:48
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WeeChat it should automaticly?14:52
oerheksremove ~/.weechat/weechat.conf  and try again?14:52
ken-kenthank you. i will try it14:53
ken-kennot work. connection refused14:57
mybalzitchkinda off topic for #ubuntu14:58
mybalzitchwhat port are you using14:58
mybalzitch#help can probably help you, or #weechat14:59
ken-ken669714:59
ferzHi15:18
ferzHow can I disable unbound?  Or at least be able to disable its blacklist?15:20
ravageubuntu does not come with unbound installed15:20
ravageso you reverse the steps you did15:20
oerhekssystemctl status unbound15:26
ferzravage: I see it in a docker and snapped pkg15:28
leftyfbferz: docker containers are VERY customized, almost unsupportable builds of ubuntu. As stated, unbound does not get instaled on default installations of ubuntu. Either customize the docker container to not add unbound, or use: sudo systemctl disable unbound15:29
oerheksand likely /etc/unbound/unbound.conf.d/blacklist.conf15:31
ferzleftyfb & ravage: thank you15:37
ferzis it dnsmasq to answer on 127.0.0.53 ?15:39
ravageon ubuntu it is usually systemd-resolved15:41
leftyfbferz: you REALLY need to seek support from whoever made the docker container. We have no way of knowing how it's configured or what packages the author installed15:41
ferzI've disabled and removed any docker package from my laptop.15:46
leftyfbferz: what release of ubuntu are you running on your laptop?15:46
ruserWhat kind of permissions should  /boot/grub/ have?   [I'm trying to install grub-pc but it is failing]15:46
leftyfbruser: as long as you didn't remove all permissions from it, root should be able to access it just fine15:47
oerhekshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nT3PnKRrWx/plain/15:48
ruserleftyfb: in my case Access: (0000/d---------)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)15:48
ruserleftyfb: hence the question15:49
leftyfbruser: why did you do that?15:49
ferzleftyfb: 22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)15:49
leftyfbferz: what exactly is your issue at this time?15:49
jeremy31ruser: If the drive have GPT partitioning?15:50
ferzleftyfb: I want be sure that there is not any "filter" in my system in dns name resolution15:51
ruserleftyfb: I can't say that I did.  long story  i'm following this gist https://gist.github.com/NiklasGollenstede/c74f92eb75b781d24a057965443866bb to try to install zfs on an a array.  however, my motherboard is anctient and doesn't support uefi. I am installed most of the way through by now, just need to have bootloader working correctly.15:51
leftyfbferz: there is not in a default install of ubuntu15:51
ferzleftyfb: yes, I understand.15:51
ruserleftyfb: the original script installs uefi, i'm trying to do grub-pc/legacy. on top of it all, the MB bios only sees one drive.15:52
ruserNot to mention the identifiers are too long to tell which one speicifically is it, i suppose I could tryto trace it to the markings on PCB but i'd rather keep that option in my pocket15:53
ruserSo i'm nearly last step, trying to get the system to boot15:54
ruserI've stayed out of the tech for a few years due to personal issues, so i missed on some knowledge15:55
ruserEither way, what are the permissions supposed to be?15:56
ferzleftyfb: I've found. It was a filter on router dns service.15:57
rusergrub-install: error: cannot open directory `/boot/grub/i386-pc': No such file or directory.15:59
ruserSo i'm down the rabit hole of what should be there, permissions, etc15:59
ruserI would manually create the directory if that's the issue, but then I noticed permissions are set to 000 for some reason16:01
ruserAny help/ideas would be appreciated.16:01
leftyfbruser: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Oct 19 15:07 /boot/grub16:01
leftyfbthough the fact that was modified in first place tells me your script did an unknown amount of damage16:02
ruserleftyfb: yeah, i don't know how to recover from this. there is definitely some wierdness going on with grub config in the script.   i'm also currently in the chrooted env, maybe  i screwed something else up?16:07
leftyfbreinstal16:08
ruseri'm not sure i can setup raidz1 with encrypted boot via default installation scripts :/16:09
ruseris there any chance i could also get a listing of that directory?16:10
ravageruser: setup a default install in a VM and compare?16:11
ravageyou seem to have a lot of modifications on your system and i dont think anyone can follow the steps you did and really help16:12
ruserravage: yeah, that tracks, but also feels i'm ->||<- this close to a booting working system :)16:12
ruserit feels like this is the final piece to go16:13
rusermaybe i'm wrong and naive :)16:13
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ruserUgh, I don't get it. /dev/sdb1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,nodev,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)   bp_one/BOOT/ubuntu_77td1d on /boot type zfs (rw,nodev,relatime,xattr,posixacl)16:27
ruseryet I can't chmod 000 to anything else16:28
pantalaimonHi, I tried re-generating initramfs (with compression set to gzip and rootfs=btrfs) and installed different kernels from the mainline ppa, but linux still doesn't find any root device16:47
pantalaimonI can boot off a grml live USB but not off a Ubuntu Live USB16:47
ruserugh, why is the immutable attribute is set to /boot/grub16:53
leftyfbruser: blame the custom script you ran16:54
ruseri'm blaming the foot gun really16:55
leftyfbruser: reinstall16:55
leftyfbyou have a broken system due to a custom script16:55
ruserThe only chattr i see is in the16:56
ruserfunction mkmnt { # Makes a mount point that is read-only when not mounted. 1: path if mountpoint -q $1; then return 1;16:56
ruserfi mkdir -p $1; chmod 000 $1; chattr +i $116:56
ruserleftyfb:  I think i have broken system due to my desires really.16:57
ruserWhile this is a major PITA i'm finding myself re-learning things so, i consider this is personal growth exercise again :)16:57
ruserI dropped out for a bit from this field due to a TBI :/16:58
pantalaimonhm the Ubuntu 23.04 iso still boots 🤔17:00
lotuspsychjepantalaimon: 23.04 is not eol yet17:03
pantalaimonlotuspsychje: sure but I just upgraded by system to 23.10 anyway, but now I get a kernel panic because it can't find the root fs on boot17:03
pantalaimonwhen booting the 23.10 liveUSB I get the very same error17:04
pantalaimonoddly enough, booting the old kernel (from 23.04) does show the same error17:04
lotuspsychjepantalaimon: can you share your dmesg with the volunteers, they can have a look for you17:05
ruserleftyfb: also, want to say thank you for all the help you've been providing over the years. I appreciate it.17:05
leftyfbruser: np17:06
pantalaimonlotuspsychje: sure, I'll have to take a photo though as it panics before writing anything to disc17:07
pantalaimonlotuspsychje: https://i.imgur.com/evFM3G4.jpg is what I get17:15
oerheksthere seems to be a newer bios17:17
oerhekshttps://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/p8z68-v/helpdesk_bios/17:17
oerheks2012/11/2717:17
pantalaimonoerheks: 3603 is already the latest version17:18
whitenI need an advice. I have i3 7gen mff pc and I would like to set up a plex server. Is it going to offer worse performance or consume more power with ubuntu desktop than with ubuntu server? It will run headless, however from time to time it would be easier to sort thing out using desktop gui. What do you think?17:18
oerhekslikely it consumes more cycles, so yes, more power17:19
phr34kis it possible to use socks proxy with apt-get?17:55
ravageyes17:55
phr34kI keep seeing information on the internet that when you set apt.conf you can specify it, but when it's on http_proxy environment variable it keeps giving me an error about unsupported proxy.17:56
freakyy85yay, here with 23.10.1 just freshly installed everything is working!17:56
ravagehttps://gist.github.com/wonderbeyond/3448c2f281062d61716efa1d8083a10217:56
freakyy85can someone give me a good free game? =D17:56
ravagefreakyy85: https://snapcraft.io/search?category=games17:57
ravageor just use steam17:58
phr34kthe problem is that I'm doing snapcraft, and so i can kinda only pass http_proxy and https_proxy which just seems to set the environment variables, but apt always seems to complain about unsupported proxy.18:06
ravagethats a question for #snappy or their forum18:08
phr34ki.e. 2023-10-23 01:08:53.372 :: 2023-10-22 18:08:51.650 :: Unsupported proxy configured: socks5://10.231.20.1:999818:09
phr34k2023-10-23 01:08:53.372 :: 2023-10-22 18:08:52.231 :: Reading package lists...18:09
phr34k2023-10-23 01:08:53.372 :: 2023-10-22 18:08:52.237 :: E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy Release' no longer has a Release file.18:09
phr34k2023-10-23 01:08:53.372 :: 2023-10-22 18:08:52.238 :: E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security Release' no longer has a Release file.18:09
phr34kwell the problem isn't snapcraft related, specifically, snapcraft just imposes some restrictions but it's the but apt-get command thats actually failing.18:10
oerheksmaybe use apt instead of apt-get?18:11
phr34kwell in the snapcraft.yaml file the packages are defined like this     build-packages: [clang, cmake, git, ninja-build, pkg-config, libgtk-3-dev, liblzma-dev, libunwind-dev, curl, unzip, rsync]18:13
phr34kand perform apt/apt-get command for it.18:13
phr34k but yeah, I mean, I am just wondering its complaining about proxy and how to get it working if its alledgly fully supported18:16
oerheksbetter try #snappy18:18
ravagebut the first step would be to test if your proxy works on a default ubuntu installation18:21
ravagewith the same envs18:21
ravageif not you have to fix your proxy18:21
phr34kyes it works, I can call curl -v -x socks5h://10.231.20.1:9998 https://www.youtube.com without a problem.18:22
ravageok and you already have a difference there in protocol18:22
phr34kyes that's true because I have already been testing this for a couple of hours prior to asking for help, so i have tested a variety of things.18:23
oerheks socks5  socks5h ?18:23
ravagealso curl is not the same as apt18:24
ravageso try to get apt working outside of snap with your proxy18:24
phr34kno, curl is not the same as apt but you were asking me to verify if the proxy was actually working, so I said I tested it with curl.18:24
ravageif you already use snapcraft you maybe use lxd with it18:24
ravagestart a container. test it18:25
phr34kokay let me be very clear here:18:25
ravageif you do not use containers with snapcraft maybe switch. uses much less resources than a VM18:25
phr34k- I can easilly go inside of the containers through lxd or snapcraft pull -shell and test some commands18:26
phr34k- the actual proxy server itself works and is reachable, its not a firewall issue or something like that, the proxy works fine with curl itself18:27
phr34kthe problem is specifically apt only seems to support http proxy not a socks proxy, at least when configured through environment variable. Normally you can work around this with something like proxychains, the actual problem that I have is inside of the lxd/lxd container the network is instable and I am bypassing that issue with a proxy.18:30
jacfoster apt only supports socks5h URI. man apt-transport-http under "Proxy configuration"18:31
phr34kjacfoster I am testing with sock5h also18:32
jacfosterWhat's the output from that?18:32
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.796 :: 2023-10-22 18:24:23.904 Requested build-packages already installed: ['clang', 'cmake', 'curl', 'gcc', 'git', 'libgtk-3-dev', 'liblzma-dev', 'libunwind-dev', 'make', 'ninja-build', 'pkg-config', 'rsync', 'unzip']18:35
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.796 :: 2023-10-22 18:24:56.320 The http error when checking the store for gtk-common-themes is 500 (retries left 5)18:35
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.797 :: 2023-10-22 18:25:28.551 The http error when checking the store for gtk-common-themes is 500 (retries left 4)18:35
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.797 :: 2023-10-22 18:26:00.783 The http error when checking the store for gtk-common-themes is 500 (retries left 3)18:36
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.797 :: 2023-10-22 18:26:33.006 The http error when checking the store for gtk-common-themes is 500 (retries left 2)18:36
phr34k2023-10-23 01:34:48.797 :: 2023-10-22 18:27:05.240 The http error when checking the store for gtk-common-themes is 500 (retries left 1)18:36
jacfosterThat's a server error, isn't it? Not an apt error?18:38
jacfosterOk, so apt is reaching the server? The errors posted are from snapcraft? Not familiar. I just noticed the socks5h protocol error because I ran into that years ago.18:43
phr34kyes, that looks like it, but the server itself works fine with curl or git commands.18:44
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whitenI have a question concerning mounting drives in linux.20:29
whitenI want to use one dir from already mounted drive (ubuntu is installed on it) and join it to my mergerfs setup. Can I somehow mount that single dir as if it was a different drive?20:30
Yakovif i use ls how to output only files that contain word 'date'20:39
oerheksls -c -lt *PRO* will return file which has PRO in its file name.20:41
oerheksso easy to find, find . ! -name . -prune -type f -name '*PRO*20:41
JanCwhiten: I thought mergerfs always works with directories, not drives?20:43
JanCyou can mount a directory to another place with a bind mount (see --bind in the mount manpage), but I'm not sure how that's useful with mergerfs...20:46
JanCYakov: do you mean finding a word inside the file, or only in the filename?20:47
whitenJanC I thought that it would be nice to merge mountpoints that match certain pattern: eg. hdd_* in /mnt . It would be elegant if all there is to mount was in one place.20:49
whitenI meant 'to merge'20:49
JanCyou could probably just do that with a symlink too (if mergerfs supports following through that), but otherwise a bind mount would be the solution, I suppose20:51
YakovJanC, I meant files or directories, but inside file can be useful too20:51
JanCif you only mean in the name, "ls *date*" (without the quotes) should be enough20:54
oerheks-R for directories too ?20:54
JanCwell, all other ls options could be combined, of course, but that depends on what else they want...20:55
bitchinHey.20:57
bitchinWhen's the next version coming out?20:57
JanCthye one that is already out?20:57
JanCthe*20:57
bitchinnext one after20:57
ravagethe next release will be 24.0420:58
ravagein april 202420:58
JanCthe next LTS is planned for April 2024 (if everything goes well & all that)20:59
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Yakovneed to call c++ program as I do with cmd ./program using ubuntu shortcut.  Please see how I proceed with python script in attached file | https://ibb.co/ggRfFgc |  need to do the same for c++ |21:25
gordonjcpYakov: so set the path to wherever you've put your program21:28
whitenI put this in fstab: /home/ubusr/dir1 /mnt/disk1   none  bind,nofail21:28
whitenI cannot make any changes in /mnt/disk1 as it appears it is read-only. Why?21:28
Yakovgordonjcp , you mean path to g++?21:32
gordonjcpYakov: no, your compiled program21:39
Yakovgordonjcp, build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod21:41
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Yakovwhat should I insert to field Command?21:42
rfmYakov, just put the absolute path to the binary (something like /home/...../program) in as the only thing in the command.21:43
Yakov /home/supernova/build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod/GUI-prod does not work21:46
oerhekswhat guide do you follow?21:48
oerheks' does not work'  is not informative, pastebin the output when you try?21:48
rfmYakov, in a terminal, "cd ~" then enter that path as a command.  What does it do?21:49
Yakovoerheks, it must call my ./GUI program rfm, cd /home/supernova/build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod/GUI-prod  | bash: cd: /home/supernova/build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod/GUI-prod: Not a directory22:00
oerhekscd /home/supernova/build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod/22:01
Yakovyes it will do cd, but I want to open my c++ program which build to this fold to be called with shortcut22:02
rfmYakov, that's not what I asked. cd to your home directory, then run the command.   oerheks, the idea here is to simulate the environment the shortcut will execute the command in.  I22:02
oerheksoh oke,.22:03
oerheksuse $HOME as variable ..22:03
Yakovrfm, same issue after I cd to home22:04
oerheks $HOME/build-GUI-Desktop_Qt_6_2_4_GCC_64bit-Prod/22:04
sudobashhow is network-manager removed from ubuntu repos?22:05
oerheksis it?22:06
rfmYakov, if you just entered the path as a command, the shell would not complain "not a directory".22:06
whitenDoes ubuntu server support exfat? I cannot mount exfat drive.22:06
sudobashthe move from network-manager to netplan is a tragedy22:07
oerheksthe kernel supports exfat for a while now22:07
oerhekssudobash, it is not removed from the repos, what kind of ubuntu do you use? server?22:07
sudobashhow does Ubuntu keep breaking the same stuff for 10+ years over and over and over again?22:07
sudobashit works great and then you break it and it has gone in that exact cycle for 10+ years, what keeps causing this?22:08
whitenoerheks This usb drive was working fine on ubuntu dekstop live whereas i cannot mount it on ubuntu server.  ;/22:08
oerheksoh. just a monolog rant?22:08
sudobashnew devs trying to make their mark?22:08
sudobashI'm sick and tired of Canonical breaking the same stuff over and over again, how is that a rant?22:09
oerhekswhiten, one thing that could prevent mounting is a dirty filesystem/error in it22:09
whitenIt works on desktop though.22:09
oerheksuse fsck.exfat to check?22:10
sudobashstop breaking the OS ever 6 months22:11
sudobashalso, I found a dumb bug in 23.10 because of Canonical's insistence on changing the way wireless gets configured every few releases22:13
Yakovrfm, bro it works, thanks22:13
sudobashnetplan is super broken and will write multiple yaml configs for the same wifi network22:14
sudobashmight as well be Windows XP now22:15
whitenfsck.exfat: command not found22:15
oerhekswhiten, you do have exfat-fuse exfat-utils installed?22:17
whitenno, if it is not in ubuntu server by default i don't22:18
sudobashnetplan single handedly destroyed the integrity and reputation of Ubuntu22:40
YakovI want to share screenshot with Ubuntu terminal to get url (like imageshare) any services?22:40
toddc!pasre | Yakov22:42
toddc!paste | Yakov22:42
ubottuYakov: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:42
Yakovplease guide me how to use this22:42
Yakovhttps://api.imgbb.com/22:42
sudobashUbuntu 23.10 wireless is broken because of either netplan, gnome or network-manager applet, create a hidden network with WPA2 password with special chars and try to connect22:43
sudobashit will create infinite netplan yaml configs for every failed attempt22:43
sudobashSPECIAL!22:43
JanCdid you file a bug report?22:44
sudobashF NO22:44
sudobashscrew canonical for switching to that POS netplan22:44
sudobashthis the the last straw22:44
sudobashI'm NEVER using Ubuntu again because of these dumb preventable mistakes22:44
sudobashthis is insane, networking has worked for 20+ years, stop breaking stuff22:44
sudobashI shouldn't have to file a bug report, because networking has been around for how many years now?22:45
sudobashwhy is it broken?22:45
sudobashno bug report should be required, the fact that a bug report for a networking issues is required is a bug is Canonicals design itself22:45
oerheksif you ask why, file a bugreport?22:45
sudobashCanonical is flawed if it's breaking networking22:46
sudobashamateurish22:46
sudobashhow about stop changing working networking configuration then there won't be any bugs?22:47
sudobashI should file a bug report on the fact that I have to file a bug report on something networking related?..........22:47
JanCI don't know what is going wrong with your setup, but if there are no bug reports they can't fix it22:47
kostkonsudobash, ok you've made your point, now change to a different distro and see if we care. Or ask here for support regarding your problem and stop repeating the same things all the time22:47
sudobashIT SHOULDN'T BE BROKEN IN THE FIRST PLACE22:47
sudobashUBUNTU SHOULD HAVE NEVER SWITCHED TO NETPLAN22:48
JanCnetplan has been used for years...22:48
sudobashyea on server, just switched on Desktop22:48
JanCnetplan has been used on desktop for years too22:48
sudobashmaybe no one noticed this dumb bug?"22:48
sudobashit points to incompetence22:49
kostkonsudobash, turns out it's just you22:49
sudobashnetplan infinitely creates the same network config on every failed attempt because Gnome can't connect to a hidden network with special chars, but Mate can No problem22:49
JanCof course something might have changed, and triggering a bug now, that's why you have to report it22:49
sudobashno it's not just me and I will embarrass the F out of Ubuntu, Gnome and Netplan if you want to treat me like that22:50
sudobashI've been using Ubuntu since it came out22:50
oerheks'special chars'22:50
oerhekswhich one?22:50
JanCI doubt it's the first time you see a bug then...22:50
sudobashthat would involve me giving you part of my wifi password22:51
oerheksno details no fun22:51
sudobashkeep playing games22:51
sudobashI'm not some idiot newb22:51
oerheksis it & or ? /...22:51
sudobash$22:51
JanCwe don't need the whole password, just the one character that causes issues22:51
sudobashwhich makes a lot of sense22:51
sudobashthat single char causes more wifi problems than any other special char22:51
JanCthat sounds like there might be a quoting/escaping issue somewhere?22:52
sudobashfor MULTIPLE systems22:52
ravageactually we dont need it. the bug report he does not want to create needs it. so this whole thing is pointless22:52
sudobasha bug report for something that shouldn't have changed...........22:52
sudobashwhy keep breaking shit every 6 months?22:52
oerhekslogically one would avoid $ and &22:52
sudobashincompetent22:52
JanCall bug reports are about things that shouldn't happen22:52
sudobashI shouldn't have to ommit a special char because the programmer doesn't know how to handle it22:53
sudobashespecially such a simple and common special char22:53
sudobashpoints to incompetence22:53
sudobashserious incompetence22:53
sudobashpathetic22:53
sudobashit even works in mate but not gnome and just keeps creating the same yaml config file over and over and over infinite times, like that makes sense....22:54
sudobashgood job netplan....22:54
sudobashgreat job canonical and gnome and netplan22:55
sudobashMate is the only winner22:55
sudobashMate must be developed by some OG devs22:55
sudobashMakes you wonder who the devs are for the buggy shit, they need to be banned from OSS22:56
oerheksThe SSID can be any alphanumeric, case-sensitive entry from 2 to 32 characters. The printable characters plus the space (ASCII 0x20) are allowed, but these six characters are not:22:56
oerheks?, ", $, [, \, ], and +.22:56
oerheksdeal with it.22:57
sudobashit's not in the SSID22:57
sudobashidiot22:57
sudobashI NEVER said that22:57
sudobashI even said the OPPOSITE of that22:57
sudobashare you some kid or something?22:57
sudobashThis also works in EVERY other OS on the planet!22:58
sudobashso, just deal with it points to more incompetence22:58
sudobashoh we can't figure it out, so just deal with it22:58
sudobashyea that's what Microsoft said....22:58
sudobashLook, I'm sorry for ranting, but you all have got to stop breaking stuff22:59
toddcnetplan works for me23:00
sudobashyou know, that's just not good enough, because the yaml files are super touchy compared to interfaces file which always works on everything for everyone, the only reason to change that is to break it.23:01
sudobashtherefore I'm here to declare that I believe someone at Canonical is maliciously trying to destroy the OS from the inside23:02
toddcsystemd all over again?23:02
sudobashthe only reason for changing over the netplan was to be malicious23:03
sudobashmost of Canonical's decisions are malicious23:03
sudobashI think their intentions are only to stir up controversy for publicity23:03
sudobashembarrassing they picked Gnome 3 over Mate (Gnome 2)23:05
tomreynsudobash: can we get back to keeping this a support (only) chat now, please?23:06
user12i am a newbie. how can i run a command, kill it and restart it every 5 minutes?23:07
sudobashsupport? yea if you can call it that...23:07
sudobashgo for it...23:07
rboxcrontab23:08
ravageor maybe these days you use a systemd timer23:08
ravagecrontab still works fine of course23:08
sudobashright, because God forbid we leave ANYTHING alone23:08
user12syntax of the command or one liner?23:08
sudobashif it works perfectly, BREAK IT!23:09
sudobashuser12, it's interactive in vim or nano23:09
sudobashcrontab -e23:09
sudobashthe syntax is very important so best to use a generator23:09
sudobashsomething like crontab.guru23:10
EriC^^sudobash: knock knock23:10
sudobashban23:11
ravageuser12: you may have to figure out the kill part. the cron only takes care of running a command. not ending it23:11
sudobashpkill is pretty easy23:11
sudobasheasier than kill for a cron script at least, just supply a name like "pkill chrome"23:11
sudobashEriC: kline?23:12
sudobashI'm guessing that's who's at the door23:12
sudobashor at min a kick ban23:12
user12so what would the oneliner would look like?23:12
EriC^^nah i'm not an ops here, but yeah i think you are about to get kicked or something23:12
sudobashman you gotta figure that out user1223:13
sudobashyou can combine commands with ; and &&23:13
EriC^^why dont you join the discuss or offtopic channel instead of here, and all's good23:14
sudobashwe don't know what you're trying to do, but something like "pkill [commandname];commandname &"23:14
EriC^^#ubuntu-discuss #ubuntu-offtopic23:14
user12that i know, but all i want to do is start foobar, kill foobar, restart foobar every 5 minutes23:14
sudobashI'm done ranting and will help with support23:14
EriC^^\o/23:14
EriC^^sounds good23:14
EriC^^user12: maybe some cronjob?23:14
EriC^^nevermind, didnt read the backlog here23:15
sudobashuser12, you might want to consider a little different approach like cron kills foobar then restarts it immediately? every 5 min23:15
sudobashyou just have to kill it before it runs23:15
sudobashthen it's running the entire 5 minutes23:15
EriC^^user12: how do you usually kill the command?23:16
sudobashI'll give you a one liner, but don't make a habit of being spoon fed23:16
sudobash*/5 * * * * pkill foobar && foobar &23:17
sudobash*/5 * * * * pkill foobar; foobar &23:17
sudobasheither one of those should work, although 1 is probable better?23:17
user12thanks23:17
sudobashbecause that says start foobar in background if pkill foobar is successful23:18
JanCthe version with && won't work23:18
EriC^^i think the 1st never runs, cause pkill will always return false23:18
sudobashahhh what is pkills return value?23:18
sudobashthat was all a guess23:18
JanCit has a manpage  :)23:19
EriC^^in this case false cause foobar never started23:19
EriC^^but the 2nd works i think23:19
sudobashyea you're right, it would only work if it was running already23:19
JanCmight want to use -x option of pkill also23:23
JanCotherwise it will also kill processes that contain foobar in their name...23:24
sudobashyea depends on what foobar is23:24
sudobashhow unique it is23:25
JanCalways better be safe than sorry23:25
sudobashyea cause think of "pkill x"23:25
sudobashlike trying to kill X1123:25
sudobashthat wreaks havoc lol23:25
EriC^^hehe23:25
JanCotherwise maybe after the next upgrade it will start to kill an important new thing and you will come here ranting that Ubuntu sucks  :P23:26
sudobashI mean Ubuntu is awesome, it just makes dumb mistakes, I've loved Ubuntu for a long time23:26
sudobashI just wish it would get its act together because stuff like what I ranted about has been happening for a very long time23:27
sudobashit's what makes Ubuntu difficult for new users23:28
EriC^^i feel like it's free and all, as long as the pc doesnt explode it's all good23:28
sudobashYea I get that, but it's not very secure compared to Windows 10 now days23:29
sudobashWindows 10 has integrated all their Xbox security stuff even the hypervisor memory integrity protections23:30
sudobashUbuntu 23.10 is just starting with TPM security23:30
sudobasha lot needs to happen very quickly, especially because of BlackLotus23:30
sudobashI installed latest 10 today and it automatically puts you in a hypervisor if your PC supports it23:31
tomreynsudobash: you're off-topic on this support chat again. opinion and rants just don't belong here. i'll mute you for a few days.23:31
sudobashall because you dont want security discussion23:31
sudobashnice23:32
EriC^^sudobash: there's #ubuntu-discuss for these type of stuff, feel free to discuss there and support here23:32
tomreynfor transparency, this +q turned into a +b because they were making false claims about what the mute was about, and continued to rant on other channels on the namespace.23:49

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