[07:58] rbasak: What is written in a package as maintainer isn [07:58] rbasak: What is written in a package as maintainer isn't within what I do for the packages website. The website only presents the information from the packages, it is not the source of that information. [07:59] !info src:mbedtls [07:59] mbedtls (2.28.3-1, mantic): Packages libmbedtls-dev, libmbedcrypto7, libmbedtls14, libmbedx509-1, libmbedtls-doc. Maintained by Andrea Pappacoda @ https://salsa.debian.org/debian/mbedtls [07:59] So yes, I see the point that if there are MOTU related updates to packages that guidelines have to get adjusted. But I am still unsure why you ping me with that because frankly, I am not doing the MOTU guidelines, won't update all the packages to reflect that change. [08:00] … unless someone wants to make sure I can pay my bills, then I'm more than willing to invest the time and energy to update all of these things. :) [08:00] !info src:python3-uinput lunar [08:00] Package python3-uinput does not exist in lunar [08:00] !info src:python-uinput lunar [08:00] python-uinput (0.11.2-4build1, lunar): Packages python3-uinput. Maintained by Debian Python Team @ https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/python-uinput [08:01] Dangit, oh well. I can't get the bot to say it. [08:01] rbasak: You might want to discuss that with vorlon instead. :) [11:56] Rhonda: sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you now have a ton of work. Just wanted your opinion! [11:56] The binary package python3-uinput in lunar and mantic have "Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers " according to apt. [11:57] I wonder if the packages website is mangling that somehow on the basis of the archive component? [11:58] Same for https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/mantic/python-uinput - that's not the maintainer in the source tree. [12:01] I'm aware that pkgbinarymangler does stuff, but the apt binary package metadata is its output, and the maintainer isn't ubuntu-motu@ in there. [13:08] rbasak: The data displayed comes not directly from the source package but from the Packages/Sources files in the archive. Within Debian I know that ftpmasters have overrides files that change data from what's in the source package, I'm unsure if that method is used in Ubuntu too. [13:09] But the displayed data is coming from the aggregated files in the archive, not through extracting the source package itself (or even going to the VCS) [13:15] Rhonda: that's not what I see in the Packages/Sources files though: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mKsWyBvyF8/ [13:15] Any idea what I'm missing? [13:21] Rhonda: ah here it is. So I can just submit an MR to change this to ubuntu-devel-discuss@ I guess? [13:21] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/packages/-/blob/ubuntu-master/lib/Packages/Page.pm?ref_type=heads#L82 [13:45] Guess so. Should likely be done for all the packages in the archive with that maintainer/uploaders field then. [13:45] wait [13:46] oh, the packages code overrides the maintainer field, that's interesting - you were right in the first place and I stand corrected. Sweet. :) [13:47] rbasak: Thanks for finding that! [13:54] Rhonda: no problem. Happy to have got to the bottom of it! So I'll reply to the list then for the record, and if we decide to go head and retire the ubuntu-motu@ list, then it should be straightforward to change that then. [13:56] (done) [14:01] Exactly, yes. Let me know when that happens, I'm not doing mailinglists. [14:02] Sure, thanks [23:38] Someone else had also mentioned something about merging this channel into #ubuntu-devel.