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| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:02:22 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:02 |
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| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:02 |
| juliank | We are going to skip this today, as discourse is down | 15:02 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:03 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:03 |
| juliank | oh that's not there yet | 15:03 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:03 |
| juliank | bug 2038807 | 15:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2038807 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "/usr/libexec/packagekitd:6:g_assertion_message:g_assertion_message_expr:pk_transaction_dispose:pk_transaction_dispose:g_object_unref" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2038807 | 15:03 | |
| juliank | I'll go tag this and ping some people if they have insight | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | We were waiting for you to look at it. | 15:04 |
| juliank | Yes and I want to talk to upstream :) | 15:05 |
| juliank | Maybe they fixed it already? | 15:05 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:05 |
| juliank | empty | 15:05 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:05 |
| vorlon | really nothing else in incoming for mantic? huh | 15:05 |
| dbungert | I had one I wanted to discuss for NN - LP: #2040481 | 15:05 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2040481 in subiquity "Cannot install Jammy server on machine using pppoe connection to access internet" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2040481 | 15:05 | |
| bdmurray | Well there is this upgrade bug... ;-) | 15:06 |
| vorlon | yeah but it's not incoming, it just needs sponsorship | 15:06 |
| juliank | bug 2037667 | 15:06 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2037667 in linux (Ubuntu Jammy) "Regression on Jammy's kernel 5.15 when creating ip6gre and vti6 tunnels" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2037667 | 15:06 | |
| juliank | seems a kernel bug | 15:06 |
| juliank | ah no a systemd-networkd bug | 15:06 |
| slyon | juliank: well.. kernel wants systemd to be investigated | 15:07 |
| juliank | or collision of bugs :) | 15:07 |
| slyon | basically, kernel increased validation for gre tunnels, which makes (old) systemd-networkd fail. Passes on newer systemd-networkd | 15:07 |
| slyon | they wanted us (enr0n?) to investigate if the corresponding networkd fix could be backported | 15:07 |
| juliank | Sounds reasonable | 15:07 |
| juliank | enr0n: Can you investigate that? | 15:07 |
| enr0n | juliank: sure, can do | 15:08 |
| slyon | I can help with spotting the relevant systemd commits. Didn't have time to do that today | 15:08 |
| juliank | -ff is empty | 15:09 |
| juliank | we'll be right back here :D | 15:13 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:14 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:14 |
| juliank | this is weird | 15:14 |
| vorlon | it's correct and based on noble | 15:15 |
| juliank | I guess nothing is late yet :D | 15:16 |
| vorlon | openjdk-17 is ftbfs on riscv64 | 15:16 |
| vorlon | with no build log because riscv64 is sad | 15:16 |
| vorlon | so I've retried it now | 15:16 |
| juliank | hooray | 15:16 |
| vorlon | nothing else here | 15:16 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:16 |
| dbungert | I had one I wanted to discuss for NN - LP: #2040481 | 15:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2040481 in subiquity "Cannot install Jammy server on machine using pppoe connection to access internet" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2040481 | 15:16 | |
| dbungert | I'm wondering if that ppp package should be in the pool | 15:17 |
| juliank | does subiquity support setting this up? | 15:17 |
| dbungert | no | 15:17 |
| dbungert | so you could do an offline install, but I'm not sure what the plan would be to eventually get it online | 15:17 |
| juliank | I guess you want to do ubuntu-drivers stuff to auto-install that if modem detected | 15:17 |
| vorlon | historically it's in the pool so you have it available offline and worst case can manually install it | 15:18 |
| juliank | like other driver packages? | 15:18 |
| juliank | but yeah including in the pool for manual bootstrap is enough | 15:18 |
| juliank | go for it! | 15:18 |
| juliank | reassign to um ubuntu-meta? | 15:18 |
| dbungert | I think that makes sense, thanks | 15:19 |
| vorlon | fwiw my Ubuntu Internet gateway uses pppoe on top of netplan, but I had to do all the pppoe myself :) | 15:19 |
| juliank | vorlon wanted to discuss dpkg misbuilt compiler flags buig | 15:20 |
| juliank | * bug | 15:20 |
| vorlon | yes, LP: #2040518 | 15:20 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2040518 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "dpkg 1.22.0ubuntu1 breaking changes" [Undecided, Won't Fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2040518 | 15:20 | |
| vorlon | so as I mentioned to juliank, the correct dpkg status is 'wontfix' because we don't want to change dpkg behavior | 15:20 |
| adrien | vorlon: I'm curious as to how you're doing that because I should install a new gateway/server in a few weeks or months | 15:20 |
| vorlon | but this is something that needs attention for noble | 15:20 |
| adrien | (this is for another time of course :) ) | 15:20 |
| vorlon | adrien: networkd-dispatcher! | 15:20 |
| slyon | adrien: see bug #1769034 | 15:21 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1769034 in netplan "Problems configuring pppoe when using netplan" [Wishlist, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769034 | 15:21 | |
| adrien | thanks! | 15:21 |
| vorlon | so we need to get this in the queue for noble as a high priority. juliank should I just set the bug back to triaged on dpkg for now? | 15:21 |
| vorlon | or do we want to pull it in as a jira card manually | 15:21 |
| juliank | Better file a jira epic and add tasks to that | 15:21 |
| juliank | Don't want all packages / the overarching thing in a single jira bug issue | 15:22 |
| juliank | (because then individual bugs would be annoying to handle) | 15:22 |
| juliank | epic to fix regressions, with spike to identify them? | 15:23 |
| vorlon | and since this is off roadmap what am I doing with that epic to make sure it gets prioritized :) | 15:23 |
| vorlon | +spike | 15:23 |
| juliank | put spike in the next pulse and bug people? | 15:24 |
| vorlon | k | 15:24 |
| vorlon | I'll follow through on that then, thanks | 15:24 |
| juliank | ta! | 15:25 |
| juliank | any other business? | 15:25 |
| adrien | I have another topic: for my openssl SRU there's a fix for default encryption parameters in openssl for blowfish ocb | 15:25 |
| bdrung | I like to suggest to look at the top entries on https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2023.10&user=foundations-bugs&period=week | 15:25 |
| adrien | the issue introduces an incompatibility between everything else and jammy | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | bdrung: on a regular basis ideally | 15:26 |
| adrien | fixing it will however introduce an incompatibility between jammy-before-the-fix and jammy-after-the-fix | 15:26 |
| juliank | hmm | 15:27 |
| juliank | adrien: how important is blowfish in practice? | 15:27 |
| adrien | reason to fix: get compat back; reason not to fix: incompat for files created before the update and read after the update | 15:27 |
| schopin | that'd be bug 1990216 | 15:27 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990216 in openssl (Ubuntu Jammy) "backport fix for 'OpenSSL 3 cannot decrypt data encrypted with OpenSSL 1.1 with blowfish in OFB or CFB modes' to Jammy" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990216 | 15:27 | |
| juliank | I'm more worried about regressions in the release | 15:27 |
| adrien | I think fairly few people use it and people who use it probably shouldn't use it anymore (if only for its low speed) | 15:27 |
| juliank | I agree with schopin's comment I think | 15:28 |
| juliank | But I feel I don't have full context | 15:29 |
| adrien | and we couldn't find an objective way/metric/whatever to decide whether we should try to include such a change or not | 15:29 |
| adrien | is there anything specific you think you're missing? | 15:29 |
| juliank | I don't grok the bug fully yet | 15:30 |
| vorlon | adrien: is this an SRU that's already in the queue? | 15:30 |
| vorlon | this is the sort of thing you will certainly need to get feedback specifically from the SRU team on | 15:31 |
| adrien | vorlon: no, ad we dropped that specific change from the upcoming SRU | 15:32 |
| vorlon | my gut reaction is "oops we broke compatibility with older stuff; but it's been in the stable release for 1.5y so it is what it is" | 15:32 |
| vorlon | which seems to be the way you're leaning | 15:32 |
| slyon | discourse is back up: feel free to paste your weekly status reports: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-26-oct-2023/39759 | 15:35 |
| schopin | damnit, now I'm going to have to write it up! | 15:35 |
| vorlon | oh damn ^^ that | 15:35 |
| vorlon | I thought I was off the hook! :) | 15:35 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:44:33 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-10-26-15.02.moin.txt | 15:44 |
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