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MuckRakerFor the record - yes - there is a satanic record within both ubuntu and its record of mechanics.00:10
MuckRakerI have recorded many of these transparent tenencies and can prove it. inux being the target.00:12
MuckRakerNo, i am not a kook.00:12
bray90820So i am using ubuntu 22.04 and every time I restart the OS creates a bridged network called docker00:12
MuckRakerI am a retired electronic engineer.00:12
MuckRakerPlease do not do what you think you have to to me. thanks.00:13
MuckRakeryour system, along with ALL systems have it.00:14
oerheks!fud00:14
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt00:14
oerheksMuckRaker, is there a support question in there?00:14
MuckRakerthat being said. we the people have no place to go.00:14
MuckRakeroerheks , hear me out.00:14
tomreynMuckRaker: please, this is a support channel only. if you don't have a support question, please chat elsewhere.00:15
oerheksbray90820, so docker is still active?00:15
MuckRakerI cant, with all conscience believe you people think im a kook.00:16
tomreynright now i'm mostly thinking you're someone not playing along with the irc guidelines stated in the channel /topic00:16
bray90820MuckRaker: well I'm not sure because when I do a purge of Docker ubuntu tells me it's not installed00:17
MuckRakeryou possibly cant think, with all evidence, think that me, along with other complaints, seem to be obvious.00:17
MuckRakerok, I get it - linux is now had, you people are smart, but continue to take the common man as fools.... right ?00:18
leftyfbMuckRaker: that's enough. This is a support channel. Take it elsewhere.00:19
MuckRakerI copied all y data to a disk, so now.. go fuck yourself and call me a liar.. yes, your answer is recorded.00:19
* leftyfb waves00:20
Eickmeyerleftyfb: Best thing to do is ignore until they leave on their own accord.00:20
bray90820Thank god he's banned00:22
aunt-bim 84 years od, my husbamd to whom yo ust banned via wef, isnt happy, we keep logs, and we will, with the help of stephen bannon.. will put you in the dirt.. fuck you..00:43
oerheksaunt-b, join #ubuntu-ops for that00:44
aunt-bubuntu is windoze with the color of "brown"00:44
aunt-byou fuced up as holes00:44
aunt-b bring it00:45
mem_1tomreyn sets quiet on *!*@136.144.35.22  fuck you -- ubuntu is done you dick licker.00:47
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BlueRayzHello00:57
BlueRayzRate my new Linux Ricer https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideapad-1-14-0-hd-laptop-celeron-n4020-with-4gb-memory-128gb-emmc-cloud-grey/6549071.p00:57
tomreyn!ot | BlueRayz00:58
ubottuBlueRayz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:58
BlueRayz*rate my new Ubuntu ricer00:59
ajeRicer?01:01
tomreynBlueRayz, aje: not here please01:02
BlueRayzD-: Dude im just asking peoples opnions here01:02
BlueRayzits otherwise quiet lol01:02
leftyfb!ot | BlueRayz01:02
ubottuBlueRayz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:02
ajeOk.01:02
BlueRayzomg01:02
BlueRayzRicer means a device which is low-spec and a lot of time is spent making it work better01:03
BlueRayzusually for minor gains01:03
ajeQ: The Backup application in Xubuntu. Is it possible to have it backup more frequently than weekly?01:03
leftyfbBlueRayz: non-support discussions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic. Share your new computer in there01:03
oerheksdaily, hourly, incremental?01:03
ajeI want the backup to run hourly if possible.01:03
ajeBut it only seems to allow running weekly.01:04
AKXaje: To where are you backing up? USB Drive? Network Share? FTP? Etc....?01:08
oerheks!info grsync01:10
ubottugrsync (1.3.0-1, mantic): GTK+ frontend for rsync. In component universe, is optional. Built by grsync. Size 142 kB / 660 kB01:10
oerheksput that in a systemd timer https://blog.jlcarveth.dev/systemd_timers01:12
tomreynaje: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/deja-dup/-/issues/111 discusses how to make your existing backup application, Déjà Dup, backup in shorter intervals.01:14
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 111 in World/deja-dup "Advanced scheduling support" [Opened]01:14
Ubuntu123leftyb and all others - you have no control to be wich your controled by - here is the skinny - they - controll both your content ans as well as your answer - im lucky to be here as i had to re-boot 7 times just to get here.01:23
Ubuntu123That being said - im changing operating machines.01:24
tomreynwe call this ban evasion. you can /join #ubuntu-ops or message me directly if you have questions about it01:24
Ubuntu123tomren.. shut the fuk up,, your os sucks ass ass hole.01:25
ComputerTechthis may be a dumb question, but if i'm currently using 23.10 beta, will just constant updates overtime make me eventually on the stable release? or will i need to do a 'do-release-uprade' release again to get to the stable release?01:26
oerheksyou will end up with the same released packages, ComputerTech01:29
ComputerTechokay01:29
oerheksno other steps needed, apt dist-upgrade01:29
ComputerTechalrighty01:29
ComputerTechthx oerheks :)01:29
spoonCathey01:35
spoonCati need some help anyone around?01:36
tomreyn!ask | spoonCat01:36
ubottuspoonCat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:36
tomreynand hello to you, too01:36
spoonCathow is it goin?01:37
tomreynubuntu support is going well01:37
spoonCatnice01:37
spoonCatglad to read it01:38
spoonCati just upgraaded to 23.10 and some problem rised01:38
tomreynthat's unfortunate. got any more details?01:39
spoonCatsure01:39
spoonCatis that true sources.list https://dpaste.org/Ga7kY01:40
tomreynlooks fine to me01:40
spoonCatokay first is checked01:40
spoonCatmy another problem is i connect external monitor to my computer01:41
spoonCati cannot get the view01:41
spoonCatbefore upgrade that have worked fine01:41
tomreynwhat do you mean by "i cannot get the view"? are you unable to activate the monitor in Settings? does the monitor not seem to work generally?01:42
tomreynis it showing screen artifacts but working otherwise?01:42
spoonCatno signal i got01:42
spoonCati connected the hdmi cable01:42
tomreyndid you configure it in Settings?01:43
spoonCatsettings -> disply?01:43
tomreynyes01:44
tomreynthat's unless you're using nvidia proprietary driversm then you'd use the nvidia-settings application01:44
ajetomreyn: Thank yuo01:45
ajeyou*01:45
spoonCathttps://ibb.co/7zjVhVz01:45
spoonCatrgis is display i see01:45
tomreynaje: you're welcome01:45
spoonCatwell i have nvidia card01:46
tomreynand your external monitor is connected to the nvidia card?01:46
spoonCathttps://ibb.co/cTBMhpy01:47
spoonCati just connect my screen ith hdmi01:47
spoonCati dont think it is connected to nvidia01:47
tomreynis this a laptop or desktop computer?01:49
spoonCatlaptop01:50
tomreynso yes, you are using proprietary drivers, and must use the Nvidia Settings application to manage displays01:50
spoonCatnvidia settings does not have much01:51
tomreynif you run      lspci -nnd ::0300     in a terminal emulator (such as "Terminal") it should print which nvidia graphics card you have there01:51
spoonCatyea 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GA106M [GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile / Max-Q] [10de:2520] (rev a1)01:52
tomreynyou should be able to switch to nvidia driver series 535 (or 530)01:54
tomreyn535 supports "GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU" according to https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/211711/en-us/01:55
tomreynubuntu provides 535 (but not 530)01:55
tomreyn...in 23.10, that is01:56
spoonCatusing ubuntu nvidia driver meta packge 535 propery tested01:56
spoonCatlet me install that01:56
tomreynspoonCat: why you cannot configure the screen in nvidia settings, i do not know, though. it *might* be that version, but more likely it's some other issue01:57
tomreyni'm not very fluent with nvidia proprietary drivers01:57
spoonCathttps://ibb.co/yPddHZ601:58
spoonCatapplication profile is empty01:58
spoonCatso i dont know01:58
tomreynhmm this looks as if it's not being used.01:59
tomreynnormally this would rather look something like this: https://linuxhint.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/16-14.png02:00
spoonCatyeah02:01
spoonCatanother problem is i have three kernel in system02:01
spoonCatin the current kernel wireless didnt work02:01
spoonCatin second current i got view on external screen not on my screen02:01
spoonCatsomething peculiar going on here02:02
tomreynwhich is the current kernel?    cat /proc/version02:02
tomreynwhich kernel images are installed?    apt list --installed linux-image* | nc termbin.com 999902:02
spoonCatthere are three kernels02:03
spoonCati guess this is the kernel i use right02:04
spoonCatLinux version 5.19.0-45-generic (buildd@lcy02-amd64-063) (x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-12 (Ubuntu 12.2.0-3ubuntu1) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.39) #46-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Jun 7 09:08:58 UTC 202302:04
spoonCathttps://termbin.com/xa8b02:05
tomreynspoonCat: right, 5.19.0-45-generic is not from 23.1002:06
tomreynit will be a leftover from before your upgrade02:06
tomreynwhat does not work with the 6.5.0 kernel?02:07
spoonCatis there aa problem here btw https://dpaste.org/mdM5102:08
spoonCatwireless02:09
tomreynuh yes, there's a couple problems, i guess02:09
tomreynyou seem to play mix'n'mojo with apt repositories for different linux distributions and releases02:10
spoonCati showed my sources.list to you02:10
spoonCatwht should i do?02:10
tomreynsources.list contains the main ubuntu package archives. but there is also /etc/apt/sources.list.d/02:11
tomreynwhich will conain the other repositories, i assume02:11
tomreyni would recommend a clean install02:12
spoonCati just lost my usb02:13
spoonCati removed file inside sources.list.d02:13
tomreynthis doesn't solve the issue that you probably still have packages installed from these repositories. are you saying you removed all of them?02:14
spoonCatproblematic ones02:16
tomreynif so, you could use https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages to clean up. but it will take you a while, and finding your usb stick may be faster.02:16
spoonCati coludnt find it so thanks02:17
tomreynalso, i'll have to leave it there, sorry, but i should take a rest.02:17
spoonCatsure02:18
spoonCatpleaase take your time02:18
tomreyni'll try summing up the issue again - you probably have held back package upgades due to having foreign packages (and package versions) installed.02:18
tomreyn(as could be seen on https://dpaste.org/mdM51#L )02:19
tomreynyou haveupgraded to 23.10 mantic, and when booting into the default (6.5.0) mantic kernel, currently, possibly due to the apt situation, your wireless is not working.02:20
tomreynyou need to either do a fresh install (after backing up), or solve the apt situation first, then do an apt full-upgrade, then try the 6.5.0 kernel again.02:21
tomreynanother issue is that your hdmi connected external monitor (to this laptop) did not work on the 6.5.0 kernel with nvidia proprietary drivers. this may as well be due to the apt situation.02:22
tomreyn(and/or due to not using nvidia-driver-525 rather than -535)02:23
tomreynmaybe someone else can take over and support spoonCat? good luck!02:23
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GrandPa-GHow do you specify a call to a service with an argument that has a hyphen in it?02:27
ajeWhat do you mean by Service? An executable?02:28
axsuulHi there. I had just had Ubuntu Server 22.04 freeze on me, couldn't ssh, all processes stopped responding. I'm also running it as a VM in Proxmox and the GUI console had lots of "Memory cgroup of memory" lines. I previously already had lots of swap (64GB). There's nothing revealing in /var/log/syslog. How can I investigate what caused the freeze and prevent it from happening again?02:29
spoonCateverything worked fine now02:30
nightstrikeHow do I install Firefox without using snap?02:37
nightstrikeAnd, more importantly, how do I completely disable snap from searching for, downloading, and installing updates?02:37
leftyfbnightstrike: what's wrong with just using snap?02:42
oerhekstons of pages that show a howto; https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04  and disabling snaps, hop distro?02:42
nightstrikeleftyfb: I dislike everything about it.02:44
nightstrikeoerheks: perfect, thanks02:44
nightstrikeWell, switch to a different distro isn't an option at the moment. Will happily do so once I can.02:47
Apachezuhm... any of you who are using 23.10 noted that the numlock is in reverse?03:37
Apachezwith numlock enabled the keypad works as arrows, with numlock disabled it works as expected where you get digits when typing on the keypad03:38
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PattiHello room03:49
matsamanhi03:50
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coz_spinningCat, nice nic change, makes sense :)03:58
coz_I can't picture a "spooncat" :)03:59
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BlueStarfishIs the new Ubuntu LTS coming out soon??04:44
mybalzitchno04:58
mybalzitchwell, sure. if you mean soon in a geological sense04:58
BlueStarfishyes04:58
BlueStarfishUbuntu new LTS April 25     Final Release04:58
BlueStarfishWhat are some cool things I can do to secure or enhance my linux experience? Im currently using Ubuntu 22.04 and just have a firewall04:59
BlueStarfishAny modern methods to disable IntelME on a non-coreboot system?05:02
BlueStarfishI read this: https://tails.net/security/argon2id/ and I see I am using LUKS1 currently, I'm wondering, can I upgrade my LUKS version to LUKS2 to use argon2id easily or would I need to reformat or something major?05:17
CosmicDJBlueStarfish: google? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/dm-crypt/Device_encryption#Conversion_from_LUKS1_to_LUKS2_and_back05:32
CosmicDJBlueStarfish: https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-is-slated-for-release-on-april-25th-2024 new LTS planned for 2024-04-2505:55
BlueStarfishOk got like 6 months06:00
BlueStarfishalmost 706:00
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dorian_so this is irc or something?07:09
dorian_oh wait, i see it in the description, nvm lol07:10
dorian_anyone using Bodhi linux?07:10
CosmicDJdorian_: For general chatter you can visit our social channels -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList07:12
dorian_I'm not interested in general chatter, tyvm07:13
CosmicDJgood luck then07:14
dorian_thanks07:14
jailbreakdorian_: /topic - this is #ubuntu support. If you want to talk about Bodhi Linux - join #ubuntu-offtopic07:15
dorian_Bodhi is an Ubuntu distro07:16
jailbreakAgain, see topic.07:16
jailbreakIt's based on Ubuntu, yes.07:16
guivercdorian_, Bodhi is Ubuntu based, but not a Ubuntu system (flavors only are Ubuntu products, built on Ubuntu infrastructure from seed files likewise on Ubuntu)07:16
jailbreak^07:17
dorian_so there's no talking about other Ubuntu flavors in here just Ubuntu proper?07:18
dorian_odd, but okay07:18
jailbreakdorian_: Bodhi is not an Ubuntu flavor.07:19
jailbreakYou can talk about Xubuntu etc if you need *support* but otherwise, #ubuntu-offtopic07:19
dorian_bodhi is based on Ubuntu 24.02 LTS07:19
jailbreakOkay? and?07:19
guivercUbuntu flavor questions can be asked here, refer to https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/seeds/ for the seed files I mentioned; you'll find no Bodhi mentioned there though as its not a Ubuntu system07:20
ogradorian_, do you have a specific tech support question (note this channel is only for tech support, for general ubuntu discussions there is #ubuntu-discuss)07:20
CosmicDJhttps://9to5linux.com/gnome-45-1-improves-flatpak-permission-checks-adds-support-for-more-cpus seems like GNOME 45.1 is out, will Mantic get the update or do I have to wait for the next release?07:24
ograusually we get the point releases07:26
ogra(as updates)07:26
CosmicDJwhy is there no mantic-updates at https://packages.ubuntu.com ?07:27
ograpackages.u.c is a community driven site, probably they did not add it yet ... mantic-updates exists on launchpad.net, that is what matters07:33
synaptho man ubuntu as a desktop really sucks trying to get onto old stuff lol, or is it just that it really hates installing from USBs?  Cause grub REALLY doesn't wanna friggin work in the slightest from it lol07:33
synaptnow it's griping about EFI things even when I try boot-repair, I just can't win with this thing and I so loathe the idea of manually creating a boot config by hand07:34
CosmicDJogra: thanks :)07:34
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matsamansynapt: efi, can't be that old07:35
matsamannot a big fan of Ubuntu, but I wonder what you're comparing it to07:35
CosmicDJanother question, where do I find a list of updated packages for Mantic? I see "Latest uploads" at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/mantic but when I click "All uploads" the list is empty07:36
ograCosmicDJ, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/mantic-changes/07:38
ogra... and for the upcoming LTS that just opened  ... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/noble-changes/07:38
synaptmatsaman: UEFI has been around almost 20 years now :P07:42
synaptmind you this laptop isn't quite THAT old, but it was originally a Win8 laptop so fairly old07:42
CosmicDJogra: great, is there some mailing list for snap updates, too? Seems like all the snap lists at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ stopped working years ago07:42
matsamansynapt: chances are you can use it in non-UEFI mode, too07:44
ograall the snap discussions moved to forum.snapcraft.io ... there used to be a community driven https://snapstats.org/ page where you could see new uploads, but it looks like it was shut down (they were asking for donations for quite a while and i think not enough money came in to keep it alive)07:45
matsamanlawl, snaps07:45
CosmicDJmatsaman: you don't like snaps?07:48
ogralets not go there in this channel ... (fine for #ubuntu-discuss but unless it touches any support issues pr👋con snaps is not for here )07:49
ogra*pro / con ... (silly emoji plugn)07:49
CosmicDJok07:49
synaptmatsaman: Cause having to go into a legacy mode and completely reinstall again is something one should have to do with a particularly aged and active distro lol.  But no pretty sure this is still just part of the one USB installer bug that's been around since like v1607:57
synaptI'll just have to try and find an actual DVD that I can still burn to in a box07:57
matsamansynapt: 'legacy' is just a marketing term the UEFI people came up with, you know07:59
matsamanCosmicDJ: nothing to like about'm07:59
m15kIs it possible to determine if connected hdmi device is powered on?08:15
matsamanm15k: with CEC maybe08:15
m15kmatsaman: I think my device does not support CEC08:15
ogram15k, you could write a script around the "read-edid" tool ... if it returns something the endpoint is powered08:16
matsamanm15k: a lot of computers do not, alas08:16
m15kogra: I parsed edid information. Does not seem to contain anything about the devices power state.08:19
loganleehi guys. if i upgrade my ubuntu do i need to update all of my apps?08:26
matsamanloganlee: like from 22.04 to 23.04 or something?08:28
guivercloganlee, deb package apps will almost always upgrade, snap packaged apps are the ~same for all releases thus won't08:29
* guiverc was thinking release-upgrade sorry; matsaman was correct with question08:30
loganleehmmmm ok08:32
matsamanDebian has this hilarious way of using 'upgrade' and 'update' as words that don't mean the same thing =P so you gotta ask08:33
loganleematsaman, maybe to another LTS release08:33
matsamanloganlee: pretty sure all your software will be automatically updated, yeah08:33
loganleeok................08:33
loganleepretty risky08:33
matsamanwell, not all, but lots08:33
loganleeincluding snaps?08:33
matsamanprobably not, snaps are garbage08:33
loganleeok08:34
matsaman#ubuntu would know08:34
matsamanit's risky to not update, too08:34
matsamanand it's risky to rely on software that can't be updated or can't be safely updated08:34
loganleewill i be left with garbage left over so my hard disk space is much less after upgrade?08:34
guivercsnap packages have benefits, but will not upgrade (with rare exceptions)08:34
matsamanloganlee: I wouldn't think so, not really, not anymore than usual08:35
matsamanguiverc: garbage has benefits, too08:35
loganleematsaman, cool thx08:35
matsamananyway, if you can't update your distro, you best find one you can08:35
loganleemy version is 20.04.3 LTS so i'll upgrade when it expires at april 202508:36
loganleesounds like a plan08:36
guivercloganlee, ensure you've applied all fixes; a correctly upgraded 20.04 system will report as 20.04.6 (not 20.04.3!)08:36
loganleeguiverc, fixes?08:36
guiverchttps://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/02/25/ubuntu-20-04-4-lts-released/ shows the ISO release date of 20.04.4, but all existing 20.04 users upgraded BEFORE that date by applying fixes (sudo apt update to update software lists, and sudo apt upgrade (or apt full-upgrade) to apply software fixes/upgrades found with update command)08:37
guiverchttps://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/03/23/ubuntu-20-04-6-lts-released/ shows the date of 20.04.6 ISO release, again installed systems upgraded to 20.04.6 BEFORE the ISO release.08:38
loganleeok thx!08:39
guiverchttps://ubuntu.com/tutorials/upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#1-before-you-start if using desktop, for servers read https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/upgrade-introduction08:39
guivercloganlee, ^08:39
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loganleethx i get it08:40
ogram15k, heh, if the monitor is powered off it will usually not return edid info08:40
jg71hi, i got a question wrt kexec  (please point me to better place if this isnt it). i already use signed modules and am wondering if theres a mechanism in kexec-tools to use that same cert i use for module signing (it's already in the kernel) for signing the kernel itself. when using "kexec -l newkernel [...]" it should verify that sig.08:43
jg71i want to avoid entering the painful world of PKI and keep things simple08:44
jg71my trust scenario is tuned to that ^08:44
ograjg71, try #ubuntu-kernel ?09:11
jg71thanks ogra09:22
FantaxHi all, just have a quick question. Is it possible to have SSH keys placed onto a bootable Ubuntu server live session so that you can log straight into the box when powered on?10:03
FantaxA bit like you would do with a Raspberry Pi?10:04
jStefanyou could use persistent storage when setting up the live usb10:08
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kokomop3n0rThe Gay Pigs and the Mosque --  Sheikh Ramez Mohamed Ali was surprised by this story, but also intrigued. He had never considered the idea of gay animals before. Mrs. Skilton and Jean Pierre explained that if these pigs could show love and compassion, then surely humans could do the same.  https://pastebin.com/fW3KNjWM12:04
kokomop3n0rGeddy Lee, Edna Skilton, and the Gay Dogs   - Mrs. Skilton had always loved dogs, and when she learned that many of them were being abandoned or put down because of their sexuality, she knew she had to do something. She started a shelter for gay dogs in Regina, but she faced a lot of opposition from the local Muslim Iman at Darul Falah Islamic Centre, who believed that homosexuality was a sin and that dogs were impure animals.    Read all about it12:07
kokomop3n0rhere:  https://pastebin.com/MDeBRL0Y12:07
uwu_linux_openbskokomop3n0r: Is it even related to Ubuntu?12:13
uwu_linux_openbswhy are you sending this BS here?12:14
jailbreakuwu_linux_openbs: just ignore.12:14
ravageyeah. reacting to spam is really not a good idea12:14
kokomop3n0ruwu_linux_openbs  Regina doesn't rhyme with vagina; it is pronounced ruh Gina12:14
jailbreak!ops | kokomop3n0r12:15
ubottukokomop3n0r: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant12:15
ravageyou can also just use "/ignore kokomop3n0r" and be done with it12:15
uwu_linux_openbsravage: thank you for the suggestion. I didn't know how to block someone in IRC12:16
jailbreakuwu_linux_openbs: you're welcome. I am here too.12:16
uwu_linux_openbswhat "!ops | kokomop3n0r" do? jailbreak12:17
jailbreakuwu_linux_openbs: pings the OPS so they can ban kokomop3n0r12:17
uwu_linux_openbsohh12:17
uwu_linux_openbsjailbreak: Thank you :)12:17
krytarikCould have just waited until they get k-lined as usual, but nooo..12:18
jjakobafter upgrading from 20.04 to 22.04 my bond interface with vlans doesn't exist any more. syslog says it's started, ifdown and ifup don't say any errors, just that the interface doesn't exist12:27
jjakobit's not there in 'ip link'12:27
jjakobI have ifupdown and /etc/network/interfaces like I always had12:28
jjakobin syslog there's: "ifup[1150]: interface bond0.40 does not exist!" probably because that's the vlan on top of the bond that doesn't exist that it's trying to add to a bridge interface12:30
jjakobhmm maybe because the upgrader removed ifenslave12:33
jjakobbut now of course there's no network so I have to copy the package to it manually12:33
Apachezwhats the url to file bugreports for ubuntu?12:40
Apachez!support12:40
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ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:41
jjakobbugs.launchpad.net12:41
Apacheztnx12:41
lotuspsychjeApachez: before filings bugs, its reccomended to ask your question here first12:41
Apachezlotuspsychje: already did several hours ago :)12:45
Apachezabout 10 hours ago:12:45
Apachez<Apachez> uhm... any of you who are using 23.10 noted that the numlock is in reverse?12:45
Apachez<Apachez> with numlock enabled the keypad works as arrows, with numlock disabled it works as expected where you get digits when typing on the keypad12:45
toddcjjakob: 22.04 uses netplan ifup ifdown12:45
jjakobtoddc: already figured it out, installed ifenslave back and could bring up bond012:46
Apachezanother bug... after some hours of uptime the dashboard (to the left of the screen) no longer displays new running apps but they are visible through alt+tab... any hints what can be cause for this? using 23.1012:46
jjakobseems like the upgrade process doesn't care if you have bond interfaces configured12:46
saltuko12:50
leftyfbjjakob: netplan has been the default for years. You really should migrate to it's configs. I know for a fact you can do bonded interfaces with netplan12:50
lotuspsychjeApachez: please apport-collect 2041658 from a terminal to drag in logs into your bug13:03
BluesKajHi all13:03
Apachezlotuspsychje: how do I make sure nothing sensitive gets dragged along?13:11
lotuspsychjeApachez: apport drags in only non sensitive logs, regarding the app you filed against13:11
lotuspsychjedevelopers might need to know more about your system13:12
lotuspsychjeApachez: and you filed your bug against ubuntu, so that will need a change to another package anyway13:13
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jjakobleftyfb: I know, I just don't want to change if I don't need to, and I don't, because I made it work the way it was :)13:42
leftyfbjjakob: that's a good way to make things difficult for yourself down the road13:42
jjakobwhy? when ifupdown becomes deprecated? "when"13:43
jjakobthis is a server with static config, not like it's a laptop13:43
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thybonjour !14:04
lotuspsychjewelcome thy14:04
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Apachezlotuspsychje: thanks, I have uploaded logs both when the error existed before reboot and when the error was gone after reboot15:36
Apachezbut Im guessing in a day or two of uptime it will return15:36
webchat10Hi everyone! I have desktop machine installed with Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu 16 LTS. I installed with GRUB. Now I want to install Ubuntu Server 22.04. I want to eras everything and just want to install Ubuntu. How can I do that?15:53
toddcboot to ubuntu server 22.04 during install pick entire disk continue install15:56
webchat10I downloaded "ubuntu-22.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso" I clicked on it and it is asking me to restore the image. is that correct?15:59
vista_dfHi folks, I'm looking to get some help with a very odd system crash I keep experiencing on Ubuntu 22.04 (tried generic and hwe kernels as well, installed quite recently). Hardware is a new-to-me Lenovo miniPC that I'd like to use as a homeserver. I ran memtest86 on it for ~10 days straight for stability testing, no issues there. I'm not sure what16:04
vista_dfthe exact timing is, but somewhere between 20-24 hours after the server is started, it becomes fully unresponsive and has to be force shutdown via the power button. Interestingly enough, sometimes (but not every time) systemd reports that it has reached the shutdown target.16:04
vista_dfI already tried attaching a monitor to it to look at the output during shutdown, but it seems like the video output also gets frozen in this state16:05
vista_df`last` reports no proper shutdown event in these cases16:05
vista_dfAny idea what sort of debug logging I could set to further debug this issue? I've considered a thermal protection trip as a potential reason why the server keeps shutting down, so I set the fans to 100% manually, but the shutdown even occurs in this case as well (and the temps seem to stay stable over several hours at a comfortable level)16:06
ravagevista_df: journalctl can show you log messages of previous boots16:07
vista_dfIt's a fairly run-of-the-mill i5-6500T miniPC with an Intel Ethernet chipset, nothing else16:07
ravagejournalctl --list-boots16:08
ravagesudo journalctl -b-116:08
ravageas an example16:08
vista_dfravage: I already took a look at logs from previous boots, but I don't see anything suspect in them16:08
ravageif there are no logs you have so sit in front of i until it happens i suppose16:09
vista_dfThing is, I have done that before, as I mentioned16:09
vista_dfthe video output just seems to freeze (i.e. the console cursor no longer blinks)16:09
ravageif it is not ram or power management settings it seems to be a hardware problem?16:10
vista_dfI also disabled power management in the BIOS (only C1 state permitted) to rule the hardware going down to sleep16:10
ravageyou can install any other OS to test that theory16:10
ravageeven the evil windows maybe. thats what the hardware was probably shipped with16:11
vista_dfthat's the thing... maybe it's a bit too "lightweight", but memtest86 ran for 10 days straight without a hiccup16:11
vista_dfstability is my #1 priority for this server, since it'll be part of an NVR setup (and that's why I wanted to go for Ubuntu LTS)16:11
vista_dfI have also upgraded to the HWE kernel (5.15 -> 6.2) to see if it's perhaps an issue only affecting a specific kernel release... but no dice16:12
toddcvista_df: is bios latest?16:15
toddcswap hdd16:15
JanCit might be a hardware issue (outside memory)16:15
vista_dftoddc: hmmm... I haven't got the slightest idea about that, but I'll give it a check16:17
lotuspsychjevista_df: got any items in /var/crash ?16:18
vista_dfI have a brand-new NVMe SSD in the server, so I'm not that concerned about storage issues at the moment16:21
vista_dflotuspsychje: no, but as far as I am aware, coredumps/crash logs are not enabled by default, so I'll go ahead and enable those16:22
lotuspsychjeoh you're on a server right16:22
toddcin the absecence of logs issues trial and error hardware New parts new problems rare but I have had good add pass tests and still be bad16:23
lotuspsychjeperhaps share your journal or dmesg logs with the volunteers vista_df ravage idea16:24
vista_dfcurrent dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KzZ75wxxqd/16:33
vista_dfcurrent journalctl: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95rm7c8KKb/16:34
vista_dfprevious boot journalctl: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sy6jXxzZSc/16:34
ravagewhat is the model name? google does not find anything that exactly matches the DMI string16:37
lotuspsychjevista_df: your logs look rather in sane condition at first sight16:41
ravageis it this one? https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds120436-flash-bios-update-thinkcentre-m910t-m910s-m910q-m910x-m710q-thinkstation-p320-tiny16:42
ravageif yes then there is an update available. yours is from 201716:42
vista_dfravage: M910q Tiny16:44
ravagethen the first thing you should do is to update the bios16:44
lotuspsychjespecialy with mini pcs and nucs, great idea yeah16:47
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webchat57Hi all, I have not been able to create network namespace on ubuntu 22.04; on a newly provisioned box.18:12
webchat57# ip netns add vpn18:12
webchat57Failed to create a new network namespace "vpn": No space left on device18:12
webchat57# mount  | grep netns18:12
webchat57tmpfs on /run/netns type tmpfs (rw,relatime,inode64)18:12
webchat57Am I missing something here?18:12
nightstrikeIf I have “automatically check for updates” set to “never”, why is the software updates running and trying to get me to install updates as soon as I go online?18:12
tomreynwebchat57: "No space left on device" usually refers to a file system which has run full18:14
tomreynthat's an interesting combination of error messages, though18:15
tomreyndoes   df -h   or   dh -hi   list anything at 100%?18:15
tomreyn100% usage, that is18:15
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webchat18Hi folks! I installed the latest Ubuntu updates yesterday, and today one of my drives is read-only. I can't start programs on that drive that require a .lock file. Has this happened to anyone else, and is anyone able kindly help me trouble-shoot?18:18
webchat57@tomreyn 100% sure none of the mount neither have 100% used up space not 100% used up inodes. My / volume has 7.3TB and only 65GB is used up.18:19
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webchat57Additionally I have another ubuntu 22.04 box which has a bit of different mount options: tmpfs on /run/netns type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=26365856k,mode=755,inode64), I have not issues on this box.18:21
webchat57I don't know why this new install is picking up different mount options and wonder what dictates it?18:22
webchat18Webchat57: are you having read-only mount issues also? I ask because I noticed you have a 7.3GB drive. I am having a read-only problem with my 7.3GB drives also, oddly.18:22
webchat57@webchat18  I have a 7.3TB not GB volume and mount options are as follows: tmpfs on /run/netns type tmpfs (rw,relatime,inode64)18:23
webchat18They're Samsung drives, if that helps. I have two of them. One that auto-mounts (and is setting itself read-only as of today), and one that does not auto-mount, which is working fine. webchat57 are you having a read-only problem? I am just curious, not qualified to help here.18:24
tomreynwould you two mind picking a different nickname? it's hard to tell you apart. type    /nick MyWellChosenNewNickname18:24
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read-only-drive-Sure, tomreyn sorry about that :)18:24
tomreynthanks!18:25
webchat57@webchat18 I am not having read-only problems18:25
read-only-drive-Okay, apologies, webchat57!18:25
JanCa filesystem suddenly going read-only usually is because there is a filesystem error, possibly a disk (hardware) issue18:25
read-only-drive-Agree, JanC.18:25
JanCso see if there is anything about that in your logs18:26
read-only-drive-Check filesystem reports no errors. No messages about that drive in dmesg that I can see.18:26
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EickmeyerSometimes that can happen on a laptop if it is suddenly jarred and, for instance, an m.2 nvme gets momentarily disconnected. It's rare, but can happen.18:27
EickmeyerUsually a reboot fixes it.18:27
JanCthat should go away after a reboot though18:27
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tomreyna "7.3GB drive" also sounds like you're using virtualization, which can mean that there can be file system or media errors on eitherthe guest system (the ubuntu installation you are inquiring about) or the (main) host system18:27
read-only-drive-Got it, Eick. This is a desktop in an area where it's very secure. Reboot did not, unfortunately, help.18:27
netnsFound how to change nick mine is +> netns18:28
tomreynthanks, netns18:28
read-only-drive-No virtualization. It's a Samsung drive that is just that size. /dev/sda2      7814009852 604601904 7209407948   8% /media/dom/Fenrir18:28
read-only-drive-So, this is odd. I turned off the auto-mount, then re-mounted it (I've tried this half a dozen times), and now it's not read-only, but it mounted itself in a new location. Ha.18:29
tomreyn /dev/sda2 is a partition, not a disk18:29
read-only-drive-I'll delete the old location, reboot, and then manually mount it each time. Looks like the automount options may have changed. I'll look at the source for these changes and submit a bug report. Appreciate everyone's help talking through it. :)18:29
read-only-drive-Right, /dev/sda1 (main partition) is 17MB.18:29
read-only-drive-It's NTFS.18:30
read-only-drive-Thanks all!18:30
netnseven after remounting: mount -o remount,rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=26365856k,mode=755,inode64 /run/netns; I am not able to run ip netns add test18:32
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tomreynnetns: sorry if i missed it, did you respond to my suggestion to run "df -h" and "df -hi", and did it return "100% use" anywhere?18:34
netns@tomreyn I did: df -h -x lustre: /dev/sda3                       7.3T   65G  7.2T   1% /18:35
netnsdf -hi -x lustre /dev/sda3                        744M  221K  744M    1% /18:35
tomreynwhat about /run though, is this full?18:36
netnsThis is a freshly installed system. So no space issues.18:36
netnsdf -h : tmpfs            26G   31M   26G   1% /run18:36
netnsdf -hi:  tmpfs             63M  8.4K   63M    1% /run18:36
tomreynwhat does    cat /proc/version     report?18:37
netnsLinux version 5.15.0-47-generic (buildd@lcy02-amd64-060) (gcc (Ubuntu 11.2.0-19ubuntu1) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38) #51-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 11 07:51:15 UTC 202218:37
tomreyn2022!18:38
tomreynyou should    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade    and reboot.18:39
netnsI can touch a file in /run/netns as root, no complains there18:39
netnsWill give full upgrade a shot.18:41
naxilhello18:43
naxilhow to select multiple kernel on boot with grub?18:43
Guest42Hello, I have an easy request, I am trying to use a systemd service, to set a random hostname (pick a random line/word from a .txt file and use hostnamectl set-hostname etc to set the picked word as the current hostname, before the networking service starts), effectively, randomizing my hostname each time my computer starts. In the past, I had all18:47
Guest42the code working, but I lost it, it involved some command that picked a random line or word from a wordlist.txt then set the hostname permanantly with hostnamectl etc. CAn anybody help me re-create this code?18:47
tomreynnaxil: you can only boot one kernel at a time18:49
naxilok... but i can select it on boot?18:49
tomreynnaxil: yes, you can press escape when you see the first on-screen output after powerup, this should replace the vendor logo by textual output. then press escape again when the POST screen is replaced and grub loads. this will bring up the grub boot menu18:51
tomreynfrom there you can choose (pressing cursor keys up/down) which kernel to boot18:51
tomreynGuest42: we don't do custom code requests here usually. If you're writing a shell script in bash, try #bash for help with individual commands, but read the documentation first (wiki.wooledge.org is also very helpful). you could possibly also do this with the help of cloud-init if you're trying to develop a generic / scalable  solution18:54
tomreyn"shuf" would be a way to get a random line from a text file18:55
tomreynnaxil: did this answer your question?18:58
Guest42yeah I have this so far18:58
Guest42hostnamectl hostname "$(shuf -n 1 hostnames.txt)"18:58
tomreynnetns: any luck after full upgrade + reboot?18:59
naxilyes18:59
tomreynnaxil: it's not always easy to hit the second escape at the right time, takes some 'training'. did it work out? you can also configure grub to bring up the menu on every boot, and continue with the default entry after some seconds if no selection is made.19:00
naxilhow to see grub menu alwais?19:00
naxilhow to see grub menu everytime?19:01
tomreynrun    sudo editor /etc/default/grub       and set    GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu    then save and close it and run    sudo update-grub19:03
tomreynby "set" i mean you add this line, maybe below the GRUB_TIMEOUT line.19:04
tomreynactually, let me correc this: by "set" i mean you edit the existing line which starts with "GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE", replacing "hidden" by "menu"19:06
naxilhow to know if i use grub or grub2?19:06
tomreynyou are using grub, version 2.x19:07
naxilidk?19:07
tomreynyou do if you are running any supported (see /topic) ubuntu version19:08
naxili can use grub-update and grub2-update19:08
tomreynthose run the same command19:08
naxiland all update some19:08
naxilah ok19:08
tomreynnaxil: you also need to edit the line starting with    GRUB_TIMEOUT    and replace the "0" by thee number of seconds you want the grub menu to wait for user input, before it boots the default kernel.19:10
tomreyn3 or 5 is probably a good value19:11
tomreynat least for a desktop. on servers, you may want a higher value, such as 3019:11
naxilok19:12
naxili set 15 and i do update-grub2 again19:12
naxilthankyou tomreyn19:13
leftyfbGuest42: personally, I use $(petname) to generate random hostnames19:13
naxilbecause i have baytrail hw... and vulkan is half nabld19:14
naxil*enabled19:14
tomreynnetns: fwiw, this is a 22.04.3 server VM (KVM) running the latest GA kernel: https://i.imgur.com/UtoblEc.png19:16
tomreynnetns: yours seems to be on the HWE kernel track, but it should also work there.19:16
tomreynnaxil: i'm not sure i understand the relation between using an intel baytrail family CPU (and iGPU?), "half-enabled" vulkan graphics acceleration, and the need to choose the kernel version from grub.19:18
Guest42Is this a functional .sh script? https://paste.rs/VSCHo.txt19:24
leftyfbGuest42: no, that's a broken URL19:27
Guest42It loads when I click it19:28
elias_aleftyfb: It actually works. :O19:34
leftyfbhttps://imgur.com/a/EeP4SLl19:36
leftyfbsimilar issue with firefox19:36
elias_astrange... FF 119.0 here and works...19:42
elias_aLibrewolf works...19:43
leftyfbhttps://imgur.com/a/Nurxpyu19:43
elias_aEven Tor browser opens it...19:44
Guest42I'm trying to make a SystemD SErvice and I want it to run before the network interfaces such as WIFI service load. I can't find the proper WantedBy= Command, can anyone provide advice? Something like Before=network-online.target (Meaning it runs the .sh script before the network anything is started)19:45
elias_aleftyfb: Really strange. I've experienced that some time ago too but cannot recall what solved it.19:45
netns@tomreyn Did a full upgrade: Linux version 6.2.0-35-generic (buildd@bos03-amd64-016) (x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-11 (Ubuntu 11.4.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 11.4.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38) #35~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Oct  6 10:23:26 UTC 2 ; No Luck:19:49
netns# ip netns add test19:49
netnsFailed to create a new network namespace "test": No space left on device19:49
elias_aGuest42: As your script has only 2 lines paste it here if folks can't access your link.19:50
Guest42https://paste.rs/5i3Ng.txt19:50
Guest42Heres a better pastebin then: https://defuse.ca/b/BpEiSAW519:51
Guest42The goal is to run the "set new hostname" code, before any network anything is up/started19:52
elias_aGuest42: Now it is more readable - has even more lines! :P19:53
Guest42So it can set a new hostname, then wifi service starts, using the new hostname19:53
Guest42I can read it just fine19:53
elias_aGuest42: Me too - now.19:53
Guest42So i think I had it as a oneshot service19:57
Guest42https://defuse.ca/b/9qrxz9PV19:58
Guest42Does this code look functional guys? https://defuse.ca/b/9qrxz9PV The goal is to run the .sh script to change my hostname using shuf, to pick a random line in a text file, and set the chosen word/line as my hostname using hostnamectl, and to invoke that script via SystemD, and for it to run before any network interfaces start, so my new hostname is20:02
Guest42set before the network interface loads the hostname. Does my code look right? Should i change the Wantedby/Before setting of the SystemD service to another target etc?20:02
oerheksBefore=network-pre.target Wants=network-pre.target  https://superuser.com/questions/1267522/changing-hostname-on-boot-on-debian-stretch20:06
oerhekshttps://systemd.io/NETWORK_ONLINE/#:~:text=Services%20that%20want%20to%20be,avoiding%20an%20unnecessary%20synchronization%20point.20:06
Guest42Yeah Im not sure which to use20:11
Guest42I dont know if I need Requires= to be set?20:12
Guest42I really need an experts help here20:12
Guest42Is this better?  https://defuse.ca/b/cXjjgP7b20:14
Guest42I have no idea how this is supposed to look20:14
Guest42I never use SystemD scripts20:14
Guest42I just want the .sh script to run, at some time before the network interface is started20:14
Guest42"Before=network-pre.target and Wants=network-pre.target" Which is it?20:15
Guest42Do I use one, or the other, or both?20:15
Guest42https://defuse.ca/b/S74Dxlk4 ???20:17
Guest42Or more like this? https://defuse.ca/b/WcPElxHW20:17
Guest42How am I supposed to write this?? https://defuse.ca/b/tanQEuwZ20:36
Guest42can anyone help me here20:45
Guest42I have no idea how this code should look20:45
oerheksi read a good example on https://superuser.com/questions/1267522/changing-hostname-on-boot-on-debian-stretch20:52
oerheksjust edit ExecStart=20:52
Guest42mate20:55
Guest42how should I setup the rest of the script though?20:55
Guest42IDK if I need, or how to setup, the After, Before, Wants20:56
Guest42and where they should go20:56
Guest42etc20:56
EickmeyerSo, #systemd might be a more appropriate channel for in-depth systemd help.20:56
leftyfbGuest42: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/FcWSYqDhFx/   this is all you need20:57
leftyfbGuest42: if you don't know if you need other options in the service file, you don't20:58
Guest42but thats not.. using the code im trying to use20:59
Guest42I dont know what I need or dont need20:59
Guest42to get it to run21:00
Guest42So should I set it to.... Before=Network.pretarget... or WantedBy.... ?21:00
leftyfbno21:01
leftyfbleave those out completely21:01
leftyfbyou don't need them21:01
Guest42Before=network-pre.target etc21:01
Guest42I have to set it....21:01
Guest42I CANT leave it out21:01
Guest42I literally HAVE TO set it21:01
Guest42to something21:01
Guest42I dont know what term to use... Before.... WantedBy.... etc21:01
leftyfbGuest42: no, you don't21:01
Guest42for specifically network-pre.target21:01
leftyfbremove the lines completely21:01
Guest42Yeah I do21:01
leftyfbno, you don't21:01
Guest42I NEED to set the time its supposed to run21:01
Guest42yes21:01
Guest42I do21:01
Guest42I HAVE to speficy the EXACT place it should run21:02
leftyfbok, good luck. You apparently don't need help21:02
Guest42so it runs before the network starts, which is what network-pre.target21:02
Guest42is for21:02
Guest42Your not helping me21:02
Guest42Does anybody else, know how my code SHOULD look, in order to run?21:03
Guest42Ok leftyfb, if I DONT speficy when the code should run... HOW do I speficy when the code should run???21:05
Guest42Your statements dont make ANY sense21:05
HabbieGuest42, if you'd like help from anybody else, i suggest you stop being rude to the one person that did try to help21:06
Guest42im NOT being rude21:06
Guest42Im questioning his logic21:06
Guest42And he can't even justify himself21:06
Habbiepeople offering help for free are not required to justify themselves, especially if somebody is being like this21:07
* Eickmeyer also suggested that there there might be even better help in #systemd21:08
Habbieanyway, two things: (1) if you're unsure your unit file does what you want, try it. See what happens. Then you can ask questions like "this doesn't appear to be exactly right because i see this instead of that"21:08
Habbie(2) Wants+Before makes sense to me here21:08
Habbiealso what Eickmeyer said, yes21:08
Guest42I am asking for his EXPLANATION because what he was saying DIDNT MAKE SENSE21:08
Guest42I can justify EVERYTHING I say21:08
HabbieGuest42, stop SHOUTING21:08
Eickmeyersystemd .service files aren't a unique thing to Ubuntu.21:09
Habbieit's weird that Description= mentions Hostname but ExecStart calls macrandomize, not, say, hostnamerandomize21:09
Guest42oh right21:10
Guest42just a simple typo21:10
Guest42move on21:10
leftyfbGuest42: explain in detail what your script does21:10
Guest42to the actual code please21:10
Guest42the .sh script, is this21:10
HabbieGuest42, i see you refuse to stop being rude. as leftyfb said, good luck21:10
Guest42#!/bin/bash21:11
Guest42hostnamectl hostname "$(shuf -n 1 /path/hostnames.txt)"21:11
Guest42How am I being rude21:11
Guest42I dont want us to get caught up mentioning irrelevant typos when what I need help with, is the actual code itself21:11
Habbieyou do not get to dictate the form in which you receive support21:11
Guest42Im saying I dont want to waste time talking about  nonissues21:11
Guest42and want to talk about the actual code itself21:11
Eickmeyer!guidelines | Guest42 please read this and come back.21:11
ubottuGuest42 please read this and come back.: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines21:11
leftyfbGuest42: ok, then just set Before=network-online.target in the Unit section and Requires=network-online.target in the Install section21:12
Guest42Omg ignoring you21:12
Guest42But it doesnt require the network to be online21:12
Guest42I want it to run Before the network interface starts21:12
leftyfbGuest42: then explain what you want21:12
Guest42so I don't agree with this: "Requires=network-online.target"21:12
Guest42Im trying to change my hostname Before any network interface starts21:13
Guest42Hence, the Before=network-pre.target21:13
leftyfbok, then what's the issue?21:13
Guest42What do I put in the [install] section.21:13
Guest42The issue with your suggestion is requiring network to be online... when I dont require the network to be online for this code to run21:13
leftyfbGuest42: WantedBy=multi-user.target should be fine21:14
leftyfbwhich is what is in my example I gave you21:14
Guest42No21:14
Guest42Thats not good enough21:15
Guest42I want it to run before the network services start21:15
Guest42which is what network.pre-target does21:15
Guest42https://defuse.ca/b/kXz7IRvy21:15
Habbiethen.. do that?21:15
gordonjcpsounds like a lot of work21:15
Guest42yeah, Im trying too, but IDK how this code is supposed to look, Does Before= go in Unit, or Install section, etc?21:15
Guest42Its really, really easy, if you understand SystemD21:15
Habbiethe systemd.unit manpage is very good21:15
gordonjcpwhat exactly is it all intended to achieve?21:16
Guest42read the description21:16
Guest42I dont want to read 1000 lines of code21:16
Guest42right now21:16
EickmeyerGuest42: Please ask in #systemd if you can't have patience with the help you're being given here.21:16
Habbiei'm not sure #systemd would enjoy that21:16
Guest42They arn't responding21:17
EickmeyerProbably not.21:17
Guest42So does this code look right? https://defuse.ca/b/kXz7IRvy21:17
Guest42Im sorry asking a basic question, is so painful you for21:17
Habbieasking in two places is rude too, btw21:17
EickmeyerGuest42: That was rude.21:17
Guest42Its two seperate places, its not rude at all21:17
Eickmeyer!coc | Guest4221:17
ubottuGuest42: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv21:17
Guest42No its not rude21:17
leftyfbGuest42: the install section is to setup dependencies of other services. It will not tell you service to run before the network interface is up. That's what Before= is for21:17
Habbieit is21:17
Guest42This is a basic question21:17
Guest42It shouldnt be so hard21:17
Guest42for people who understand systemd, which I dont, which is why Im asking21:17
EickmeyerGuest42: You're being rather demanding for volunteer helpers.21:18
leftyfbGuest42: and not listening21:18
Guest42Im specifcying the goals of the code21:18
leftyfbGuest42: the install section of your service will not affect your service starting before the network interface is up. That's what the Before section is for21:18
Guest42There is NO before section21:18
Guest42The only 3 sections are Unit, Service, and Install21:19
leftyfbsorry, Before statement in the Unit section21:19
arraybolt3Guest42: If you think it's a simple question, and no fewer than three people are having trouble answering it, it may not be as simple as you think. You may also be misunderstanding advice you're being given.21:19
leftyfbyou know what I meant21:19
Guest42No, I didnt21:19
Guest42Section is different than code within a section21:19
leftyfbgo try it21:19
Guest42IDK what do put here: [Install]21:19
Guest42WantedBy=network-pre.target21:19
leftyfbthat's it21:20
leftyfbwait21:20
Guest42So is saying it twice redundancy?21:20
Guest42https://defuse.ca/b/kXz7IRvy21:20
leftyfbdid you try it?21:20
Guest42No21:20
Guest42I haven't gotten ANY confirmation that this code will work21:20
leftyfbgo try it21:20
Guest42so Im not going to run it21:20
Guest42until somebody, independantly anlizes it any verifies it looks right and will run correctly21:20
Habbieagain, you don't get to demand the exact shape of the support you are getting21:21
leftyfbok, so you refuse to try different configurations to figure out which one works for your needs. Good luck not making any progress21:21
gordonjcpGuest42: you want it analysed and verified correct?21:21
Guest42Yes21:21
gordonjcpGuest42: then get to it!21:21
gordonjcplet us know how you get on21:21
leftyfbGuest42: we're not going to test things for you. That's your job21:22
Guest42Get to it?21:22
leftyfbgo test it21:22
Guest42Im asking for help to see if the code is formatted correctly21:22
leftyfbgo test it21:22
Guest42and that the correct syntax is being used21:22
EickmeyerGuest42: Not our job.21:22
arraybolt3Guest42: systemd is a surprisingly good automated analyzer for its own unit files. It's not difficult to set up a VM to try this in, and even highly seasoned systemd devs will ask people to try running things themselves since that's the only way to know for sure it will work.21:23
Guest42No, Im not going to blindly run code, that I dont even know is formatted right21:23
Guest42Yeah Its nobodys job thats why Im asking here for HELP21:23
EickmeyerGuest42: We aren't even paid to be here.21:23
Guest42Neither am I21:23
leftyfbGuest42: you want verification that it won't break your computer?21:23
Guest42omfg21:23
Eickmeyer!language | Guest4221:23
ubottuGuest42: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:23
Guest42I want someone to read the code, and tell me if it looks syntactically formatted correctly21:23
Guest42*ignore Eickmeyer21:24
Eickmeyer!coc | Guest4221:24
ubottuGuest42: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv21:24
oerheks.. only one way to find out .. "if hostnamectl hostname "$(shuf -n 1 /path/hostnames.txt)"   ## is /path/hostnames.txt the  correct path?21:24
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leftyfbGuest42: you want verification that it won't break your computer?21:24
Guest42I'm assuming your intentionally wasting my time21:24
oerheksgood luck there..21:24
Guest42So im ging to ignore you now21:24
Eickmeyer!ops | Guest42 Belligerant user, violating code of conduct, refusing help.21:24
oerheksoke21:24
ubottuGuest42 Belligerant user, violating code of conduct, refusing help.: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant21:24
Guest42oerheks21:24
Guest42I never typed that code21:25
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Guest42so why are you suggesting it21:25
Guest42oh21:25
oerheksyes you did.21:25
arraybolt3!ops | Guest42 is causing disruption21:25
ubottuGuest42 is causing disruption: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant21:25
leftyfbGuest42: ok, we're done here then. You have zero interest in listening to anyone here or testing anything yourself. This is as unproductive as it gets21:25
Guest42test21:25
Guest42 the /path was just a test21:25
Guest42Im not disrupting anything Im asking a basic question21:25
gordonjcpGuest42: I can test it for you, if you like, but that's... not cheap21:25
Guest42Screw off I dont have any money21:25
gordonjcpoh well, looks like you get to invest time then21:26
Guest42 the /path/ was just a filler for examples sake21:26
Eickmeyer!ops | Guest42 now with multiple guideline and CoC violations21:26
ubottuGuest42 now with multiple guideline and CoC violations: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant21:26
Guest42the .sh file is right, I just need verification of the SystemD service file21:26
Guest42https://defuse.ca/b/kXz7IRvy21:28
Guest42Hello?21:31
gordonjcpGuest42: try it and see, it'll either work or not21:31
gordonjcpGuest42: what are you actually trying to achieve anyway?21:31
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netnstomreyn any other ideas?21:52
loswedsededwhere do I download kegafusion from?22:19
oerheksnot on our repos > kegafusion  Proprietary blob22:20
loswedsededis there any shortcut to cycle between opened windows?22:37
Habbiebetween apps: alt-tab. within one app: try alt-`22:39
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loswedsededthxs Habbie!22:52
Habbieloswedseded, np :)22:58
loswedsededdon't call me an idiot: I forgot how to extract tar.gz's23:17
loswedsededhow do I extract a tar.gz?23:18
loswedsededxz23:18
toddcloswedseded: gui right click extract here23:29

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