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cjdghi there, i been testing edubuntu, and wanted to ask if there is possible to add wine as a preinstalled package, also maybe bottles too? here is the thing, is pretty common in schools to use windows based software, 16:31
Eickmeyercjdg: So, if we were to add wine, it would make the image gigantic beyond 6.0GiB. Bottles isn't in the repos, so that's a no-go.16:47
Eickmeyerwine is easily installable via the repos. I would have a hard time justifying it to the higher-ups.16:48
EickmeyerWe are held accountable for the size of the preinstallation .iso image size, and every time it goes above the limit I'm asked two things: either to bring it back down or to have the release team increase the limit.16:50
EickmeyerIncreasing the limit has risks: 1) people are more reluctant to download due to the size, and 2) the infrastructure becomes more burdened.16:50
cjdgohhh17:25
cjdgi see17:25
cjdgthanks17:25
cjdgi was thinking something17:27
cjdgin countries like mexico, there are places which internet is impossible17:27
cjdgand most people are non tech 17:28
cjdgcan we make a gui like system to make a portable installer, using  apt-cache or similars, and include it to edubuntu?17:29
Eickmeyer🤔17:30
EickmeyerWe have ways of seeding packages for offline installation, but, again, that increases the .iso image size.17:31
EickmeyerAnything we include in Edubuntu increases the .iso image size, so it all comes back to the same problem.17:32
cjdgi mean, not seeding the iso17:32
cjdglike a gui based tool for filling a folder17:33
cjdgin a hdd or usb, and move it to17:33
cjdgwhere is needed17:33
EickmeyerI see what you're saying.17:33
cjdgi used apt-mirror and similars17:33
cjdgso making this "portable gui repo maker"17:34
cjdgfor using on edubuntu17:34
cjdgeven maybe available in the live cd,17:34
cjdgnow that ubuntu has raspberry support, is more easy to have the repos for almost any architecture17:35
cjdgi can try to make it17:36
cjdgjust one question, does there is any gui guideline you would like it will follow?17:37
cjdgalso if you want in any particular programming language..?17:37
EickmeyerSo, typically GTK is what we'd want to use on GNOME, and I've typically used bash with the frontend being zenity because I'm simple and that's what I know. But if you want to write it in another language, that's up to you.17:38
EickmeyerWe just don't want to break any policies, that's my only concern here (meaning, packaging policies or others)17:39
EickmeyerI can do the packaging if you can write it.17:39
cjdgok17:39
cjdgand here is the important thing17:40
cjdghow we call it?17:40
EickmeyerThis is the perfect time to do something since it's the beginning of the cycle. Feature Freeze is end of February.17:40
cjdggreat!17:41
Eickmeyerlocal-repo-maker or something to that effect seems reasonable. 17:41
cjdgok im making the repo on github, which licence would you like it to have?17:44
Eickmeyercjdg: One could, in theory, take edubuntu's .iso image and respin it using cubic if they wanted to add wine.17:44
Eickmeyercjdg: Something not too permissive but still compatible, such as GPL-3 is fine.17:44
EickmeyerEr, GPL-3+ (meaning GPL 3 or later)17:44
cjdghttps://github.com/cjdg/local-repo-maker17:45
EickmeyerCool.17:45
cjdghave to go man, see  you later, have a nice weekend!18:02
Eickmeyercjdg: You too! I'll probably be low on communication this next week as I'm heading to Latvia, but I'll catch you as much as possible.18:02

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