[16:31] <cjdg> hi there, i been testing edubuntu, and wanted to ask if there is possible to add wine as a preinstalled package, also maybe bottles too? here is the thing, is pretty common in schools to use windows based software, 
[16:47] <Eickmeyer> cjdg: So, if we were to add wine, it would make the image gigantic beyond 6.0GiB. Bottles isn't in the repos, so that's a no-go.
[16:48] <Eickmeyer> wine is easily installable via the repos. I would have a hard time justifying it to the higher-ups.
[16:50] <Eickmeyer> We are held accountable for the size of the preinstallation .iso image size, and every time it goes above the limit I'm asked two things: either to bring it back down or to have the release team increase the limit.
[16:50] <Eickmeyer> Increasing the limit has risks: 1) people are more reluctant to download due to the size, and 2) the infrastructure becomes more burdened.
[17:25] <cjdg> ohhh
[17:25] <cjdg> i see
[17:25] <cjdg> thanks
[17:27] <cjdg> i was thinking something
[17:27] <cjdg> in countries like mexico, there are places which internet is impossible
[17:28] <cjdg> and most people are non tech 
[17:29] <cjdg> can we make a gui like system to make a portable installer, using  apt-cache or similars, and include it to edubuntu?
[17:30] <Eickmeyer> 🤔
[17:31] <Eickmeyer> We have ways of seeding packages for offline installation, but, again, that increases the .iso image size.
[17:32] <Eickmeyer> Anything we include in Edubuntu increases the .iso image size, so it all comes back to the same problem.
[17:32] <cjdg> i mean, not seeding the iso
[17:33] <cjdg> like a gui based tool for filling a folder
[17:33] <cjdg> in a hdd or usb, and move it to
[17:33] <cjdg> where is needed
[17:33] <Eickmeyer> I see what you're saying.
[17:33] <cjdg> i used apt-mirror and similars
[17:34] <cjdg> so making this "portable gui repo maker"
[17:34] <cjdg> for using on edubuntu
[17:34] <cjdg> even maybe available in the live cd,
[17:35] <cjdg> now that ubuntu has raspberry support, is more easy to have the repos for almost any architecture
[17:36] <cjdg> i can try to make it
[17:37] <cjdg> just one question, does there is any gui guideline you would like it will follow?
[17:37] <cjdg> also if you want in any particular programming language..?
[17:38] <Eickmeyer> So, typically GTK is what we'd want to use on GNOME, and I've typically used bash with the frontend being zenity because I'm simple and that's what I know. But if you want to write it in another language, that's up to you.
[17:39] <Eickmeyer> We just don't want to break any policies, that's my only concern here (meaning, packaging policies or others)
[17:39] <Eickmeyer> I can do the packaging if you can write it.
[17:39] <cjdg> ok
[17:40] <cjdg> and here is the important thing
[17:40] <cjdg> how we call it?
[17:40] <Eickmeyer> This is the perfect time to do something since it's the beginning of the cycle. Feature Freeze is end of February.
[17:41] <cjdg> great!
[17:41] <Eickmeyer> local-repo-maker or something to that effect seems reasonable. 
[17:44] <cjdg> ok im making the repo on github, which licence would you like it to have?
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> cjdg: One could, in theory, take edubuntu's .iso image and respin it using cubic if they wanted to add wine.
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> cjdg: Something not too permissive but still compatible, such as GPL-3 is fine.
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> Er, GPL-3+ (meaning GPL 3 or later)
[17:45] <cjdg> https://github.com/cjdg/local-repo-maker
[17:45] <Eickmeyer> Cool.
[18:02] <cjdg> have to go man, see  you later, have a nice weekend!
[18:02] <Eickmeyer> cjdg: You too! I'll probably be low on communication this next week as I'm heading to Latvia, but I'll catch you as much as possible.