[00:02] <xrandr> wow this channel got quiet lol
[00:22] <loswedseded> do you know when 23.10 will be available as release upgrade?
[00:52] <guiverc> loswedseded, traditionally the upgrade is opened early in the week; you can view https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mantic-minotaur-23-10-release-status-tracking/37887 for status clues
[01:48] <realivanjx> hi. i followed this tutorial to create bridge networking for kvm vms. the host is able to get ip address automatically again after i enabled the br0 but the guest is still not able to get ip address from my lan's dhcp server. anything missing? https://www.answertopia.com/ubuntu/creating-an-ubuntu-kvm-networked-bridge-interface/
[01:49] <rbox> you're not using wifi are you>?
[01:50] <realivanjx> it is wired
[01:50] <realivanjx> i disabled wired and enabled br0. the host bridge got new ip address but the guest does not.
[01:51] <realivanjx> i just want to recreate the virtualbox bridged network with kvm thats all
[01:59] <nightstrike> If I have “automatically check for updates” set to “never”, why is the software updates running and trying to get me to install updates as soon as I go online?
[02:06] <realivanjx> it seems my bridge problem is related to iptables or something. i can ping the host ip from the guest (if i statically configured the ip) just fine.
[02:15] <realivanjx> yup. adding "iptables -A FORWARD -i br0 -j ACCEPT" fixed it.
[03:06] <Guest17> hey y'all
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome Guest17
[03:16] <Guest17> thanks
[03:16] <Guest17> i'm using ubuntu since this year, idk why did not I use unix before
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> Guest17: welcome to the community, you can ask ubuntu related questions in this support channel
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> other chats and discuss will goto here:
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[03:19] <Guest17> oh, i understand, thanks; I have a question, is there an official ubuntu httpS sources?
[03:20] <Guest17> and ... also ... why sources are http? I know that ... gpg signed .... and so on ....if someone wants to spoof packages, it will fail ...... but ..... i don't understand why still using clear http queries ..... my net-admin shouln't care about the packages i install lol
[03:22] <netns> Hi all, I am repeating my question for anybody who has joined later and could help: When I run "ip netns add test" I get this error: "Failed to create a new network namespace "test": No space left on device" There are no issues with space I have 7.3TB space and 99% inode left. I can successfully  touch/create a file in /run/netns directory as root
[03:22] <netns> using touch and vi command.
[03:22] <netns> I am currently on latest ubuntu: Linux version 6.2.0-35-generic (buildd@bos03-amd64-016) (x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-11 (Ubuntu 11.4.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 11.4.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.38) #35~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Oct  6 10:23:26 UTC 2
[03:23] <Guest17> netns have you ever tried to create with another name? Maybe "test" is a reserved namespace  or a hidden and actually using namespace?
[03:24] <netns> Guest17 yes I have tried s1 funny etc ...no luck
[03:24] <Guest17> do you hace rights? (sudo)
[03:24] <netns> Yes I do have sudo and full root
[03:25] <Guest17> is there any broken dependency or broken package to fix? or unconfigured dpkg ? for ip and/or another dependency ?
[03:26] <Guest17> have you tried to create another user to test if ip netns works?
[03:28] <Guest17> https://serverfault.com/questions/961504/cannot-create-nested-network-namespace  maybe this could help you, netns
[03:30] <Guest17> https://serverfault.com/questions/961504/cannot-create-nested-network-namespace  maybe this could help you, netns
[03:32] <Guest17> netns is the max_user_namespaces value set to 0 ?
[03:33] <Guest17> # sysctl user.max_user_namespaces
[03:33] <Guest17> user.max_user_namespaces = ?????
[03:34] <netns> Guest17 my original problem was my kubernetes setup had issues creating netns, which is when I tried to test it manually and I found I could not ever create the namespace manually. Strangely I have another set of 40 nodes which had the same version of ubuntu but I am able to create netns without issues.
[03:35] <netns> $ sysctl user.max_user_namespaces
[03:35] <netns> user.max_user_namespaces = 2062603
[03:36] <Yakov> how to minimize process window from cmd with process id
[03:37] <Guest17> Yakov did you want to see top/htop on a terminal=
[03:38] <Guest17> netns i cant' help you but .... maybe ... you should revert the kubernetes setup annd start again focussing on the topology of your network/desired network, and start again installing it, looking for well-configuring it
[03:39] <Guest17> Yakov what do you want to ask?
[03:42] <netns> Guest17 thank you for the help. When I upgraded to latest ubuntu I had not done any kubernetes setup, I was just testing netns first on a freshly installed system. Will keep trying
[03:43] <Guest17> it seems that there's something about netns misconfigured that prevents it for adding new ns
[03:46] <Guest17> netns and it depends of the side of the net that you are, it's not the same ip netns ...than ip exec ....
[03:53] <netns> Guest17 My question is what configures it, can I reconfigure it?
[03:54] <Guest17> let's make a look about it
[03:56] <Guest17> about ip-netns .... it "belongs" to iputils ... iproute/iproute2
[04:00] <Guest17> netns
[09:38] <pickanick> I would like to use apt. Packagekitd has been holding the /var/lib/apt/lists/lock for an hour. How do I determine whether it is safe to stop it, or reboot the machine?
[09:44] <pickanick> how to determine whether it is safe to stop packagekit, or safe to reboot the machine?
[09:53] <pickanick> ruser : in case no one answered you: one thing to check: the permissions on the keys and on the authorized_keys file and ~/.ssh/ directory. 'man ssh' gives the recommended permissions.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:45] <barnaber> Bonjour tous le monde
[15:46] <leftyfb> !fr | barnaber
[15:56] <netns> @Guest17
[16:34] <lord4163> Is there a way to configure zsys to keep only a few snapshots?
[16:41] <ravage> zsys is dead. dont use it
[16:46] <lord4163> Well, it is on my supported Ubuntu 22.04 installation :)
[18:06] <maks> skąd probrać arhciwalne pakiety  w ubuntu
[18:06] <maks> ktoś wie
[18:09] <maks> ubuntu
[18:17] <jStefan> a bit late, but: !en
[18:20] <Eickmeyer> Really !pl
[18:57] <CosmicDJ> can I use the closed source nvidia package on Mantic with Secure Boot? That is, are the nvidia kmods signed like the kernel?
[19:45] <toddc> CosmicDJ: yes
[19:47] <ravage> (if you use the packages provides by ubuntu as in "additional drivers")
[20:03] <CosmicDJ> nice, thanks
[20:05] <Kadigan> Damn. I don't get it. IRC isn't as widely used as it used to be, so you need *some* technical knowledge to seek it out, right? How do you go looking for it (which suggests you have basic knowledge), and then end up speaking your native language (which suggest you don't...)?
[20:05] <Kadigan> suggests*
[20:08] <jStefan> I think it's a form of passive protest, yet they also want you to help them, but anyway #offtopic
[20:28] <guenter_> hi
[20:29] <guenter_> i am on a 8 years old laptop i just found
[20:29] <guenter_> Drone
[20:29] <guenter_> ChanServ
[20:29] <cosmicwonder> guenter_ hey there and nice
[20:29] <guenter_> wow
[20:29] <cosmicwonder> wow what?
[20:29] <guenter_> this chat is still alive wow
[20:29] <letsbeanonymus> yo whats up
[20:29] <guenter_> yo
[20:29] <cosmicwonder> of course its alive :-/
[20:29] <letsbeanonymus> just opened this app for the first time in life
[20:30] <cosmicwonder> what app?
[20:30] <guenter_> what os you are using
[20:30] <cosmicwonder> pidgin?
[20:30] <cosmicwonder> i am using ubuntu, of course
[20:30] <guenter_> i am using kubuntu 13.4
[20:30] <letsbeanonymus> me too lubunto
[20:30] <guenter_> xD
[20:30] <guenter_> too old
[20:30] <guenter_> i cant even update anymore! the servers are outdated
[20:30] <letsbeanonymus> this is cool i am on here for the first time
[20:30] <guenter_> same
[20:31] <guenter_> anyone german here?
[20:31] <guenter_> no?
[20:31] <guenter_> alr
[20:31] <cosmicwonder> i am USA
[20:31] <guenter_> im not xDDD
[20:31] <guenter_> what what is that app used
[20:31] <guenter_> like i just found it its my first time i apologies
[20:32] <letsbeanonymus> i want to learn german where to start?
[20:32] <letsbeanonymus> Youtube do you suggest different route?
[20:32] <guenter_> ehh i dont know i learned it from my parents lol
[20:32] <letsbeanonymus> Yeah
[20:32] <guenter_> Hallo means hello
[20:32] <guenter_> mein name -> my name
[20:33] <letsbeanonymus> Interesting
[20:33] <rbox> !ot
[20:33] <guenter_> but we got
[20:33] <guenter_> üöä
[20:33] <guenter_> ß
[20:34] <guenter_> im bored :-)
[20:34] <guenter_> any1 know what to do on a laptop wich cant even open webpages
[20:35] <oerheks> do a fresh install with a supported ubuntu version
[20:37] <cosmicwonder> guenter_: yes, install a supported version
[20:37] <cosmicwonder> web stuff will not load in older versions
[20:41] <gordonjcp> guenter_: yeah, 13.04 is pretty obsolete, although it's an interesting historical artifact :-)
[20:44] <cosmicwonder> guenter_: i used to use ubuntu 14.04 LTS just about a month ago and the web pages loaded fine
[20:44] <cosmicwonder> but you really need to upgrade
[20:44] <cosmicwonder> your security might be compromised already and you don't even know it
[20:45] <cosmicwonder> just upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04 AT LEAST and everything will work fine
[20:46] <oerheks> if it is a 32 bit machine, good luck
[20:46] <cosmicwonder> oh yeah, i forgot to say, if it is 32 bit you can't really do much
[20:47] <rbox> he said 8 years, not 30 years
[20:48] <cosmicwonder> there is a Debian version for 32 bit: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.0.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
[20:48] <cosmicwonder> debian 8
[20:51] <JeffH> right now I run ubuntu headless on a VM that runs on my M2 Mac.  Kinda curious about buying a cheap machine to put Ubuntu on.  Any recommendations?
[20:52] <cosmicwonder> JeffH: you want a desktop machine, not a laptop, yes?
[20:53] <JeffH> cosmicwonder: yeah.. preferably a smallish footprint.
[20:53] <oerheks> hardware choice is beyond the scope of this channel, see minimum specs
[20:54] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:54] <cosmicwonder> JeffH: these are high quality and still cheap: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkcentre-M910q-Tiny-Black/dp/B07XFH6YXZ/ref=asc_df_B07XFH6YXZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=648201767493&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4653281500927100599&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029338&hvtargid=pla-1939801542616&psc=1
[20:55] <JeffH> thanks cosmicwonder!
[20:55] <elias_a> JeffH: RasPis are also very usable when running Ubuntu. ;-)
[20:55] <cosmicwonder> JeffH: i have used those before, they are super stable and fun to use
[20:56] <cosmicwonder> i recommend them highly! :)
[20:56] <JeffH> elias_a: ah.. that's not a bad idea.. that would be kinda fun.
[20:56] <elias_a> JeffH: I am waiting for mine to get made and shipped. :P
[20:57] <JeffH> elias_a: nice, what are you going to use it for?
[20:58] <elias_a> JeffH: my CCTV systes, media server, saving data from some BLE sensors, home automation...
[20:58] <elias_a> system, that is.
[20:59] <JeffH> cool.
[20:59] <elias_a> Hopefully. :P
[20:59] <cosmicwonder> imo, Raspberry Pis are not that much fun to use, i would rather use a full-blown system like the Lenovo ThinkCentre m910q
[20:59] <cosmicwonder> for a small systems
[21:00] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: On the other hand they are small, silent and energy efficient. Perfect in a home with small children as you can hide it in a closet. :P
[21:00] <cosmicwonder> elias_a, yes yes
[21:01] <loswedseded> i've tried 2 retro games emulators and in both of them there is no sound: ubuntu 23.04, kegafusion and mednaffe. Why is this so?
[21:02] <cosmicwonder> elias_a: those are big ups, but the thinkcentre especially the m910q, are super quiet, almost perfectly silent
[21:02] <oerheks> loswedseded, kegafusion is not our problem, EOL
[21:02] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Yes but it still needs a desk or a table. :)
[21:02] <cosmicwonder> i remember being somewhere where they had like 3 running at the same location and i could barely hear them
[21:03] <cosmicwonder> that was at our local library
[21:03] <oerheks> and for mednaffe, not in our repos either??
[21:03] <cosmicwonder> elias_a: not necessarily, you could run it on the floor just fine
[21:03] <cosmicwonder> it would get dirtier faster
[21:05] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: Most definately as my dog dislikes sounds of fans and likely would pee on it. :P
[21:05] <elias_a> But this is getting really OT. :P
[21:06] <cosmicwonder> yes itis
[21:07] <cosmicwonder> is there a ubuntu offtopic channel?
[21:07] <oerheks> yes
[21:07] <cosmicwonder> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:08] <cosmicwonder> just joined
[21:08] <cosmicwonder> elias_a, we can continue there if you want..
[21:09] <elias_a> cosmicwonder: They don't want "heated conversations" there. That's why I keep away from there. :)
[21:09] <cosmicwonder> elias_a: i see. but ours was not a heated conversation
[21:09] <cosmicwonder> anyways, we don't have to continue :)
[22:13] <root> la
[22:13] <root> ls
[22:13] <root> clear
[22:36] <elias_a> sudo reboot now :D
[22:40] <bblinky> Hey, I am about to file a bug report for MS WSL because virt-manager keeps cpmplaining ' failed to commit changes to dconf: Could not connect: No such file or directory' while at the same time it creates an empty file at /run/user/1000/dconf/user ... First of can you mention any other apps that uses dconf in a similar way (other than firefox) so I can figure out if it's deconf or vit-mannager
[22:40] <bblinky> that's acting up.. Also, can you think of any more ways to troubleshoot?
[22:41] <bblinky> Appologies for slightly offtopic (possibly?) but the image is ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[22:43] <bblinky> Wow, that was a lot of spell bads btw xD
[22:51] <tomreyn> bblinky: i don't know whether that's supposed to be so on WSL, but do you have dconf-service running?   pgrep -l dconf
[22:52] <ravage> and what do you use virt-manager for? starting VMs in a VM is maybe not the best idea
[22:53] <tomreyn> lxc maybe?
[22:54] <rbox> VM ception
[22:55] <tomreyn> bblinky: are you running virt-manager as root (with sudo) by chance?
[22:56] <bblinky> tomreyn: the service is running and i am not running virt-manager as sudo
[22:57] <bblinky> ravage: acccessing/managing my remote host
[22:57] <tomreyn> who owns ~/.cache/dconf ~/.dbus ?
[22:58] <bblinky> tomreyn: Neither exist
[22:58] <bblinky> Should maybe just try to touch them?
[22:59] <tomreyn> no, sorry, those are probably old paths. who owns ~/.config/dconf though?
[23:01] <bblinky> I touched it all now, same result
[23:01] <bblinky> (config dconf did not exist)
[23:05] <ravage> i dont have windows available with WSL atm. google found https://gist.github.com/klo2k/fe794f107c11292ba47b4d052c547983
[23:08] <bblinky> ssdd :/
[23:10] <bblinky> tomreyn: dconf-editor seems to be working tho..
[23:10] <ravage> https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4rsmzp/bash_on_windows_getting_dbus_and_x_server_working/
[23:11] <ravage> talks about the dbus error
[23:11] <ravage> sudo sed -i 's$<listen>.*</listen>$<listen>tcp:host=localhost,port=0</listen>$' /etc/dbus-1/session.conf
[23:11] <ravage> is the fix they use
[23:13] <bblinky> sed: can't read /etc/dbus-1/session.conf: No such file or directory
[23:13] <ravage> the package is dbus-x11
[23:14] <bblinky> it's installed
[23:14] <bblinky> (now reinstalled)
[23:16] <ravage> and "sudo systemctl status dbus" works?
[23:17] <ravage> i think the service is in the "dbus" package
[23:17] <bblinky> yup
[23:17] <bblinky> it's active
[23:17] <bblinky> supposedly
[23:19] <ravage> ok. i dont think i can help any further here without an actual WSL installation
[23:20] <oerheks> wsl and wsl2 ..
[23:21] <ravage> if he has systemd it is wsl2
[23:22] <tomreyn> bblinky: does anything not actually seem to work, though?
[23:22] <bblinky> WLS2
[23:22] <oerheks> oke
[23:23] <bblinky> tomreyn: well, it works fine untill I close down virt-manager and then reopen it and then it has forgotten about the connectins I set up
[23:24] <ravage> that would have been a very helful information
[23:24] <ravage> so it does start
[23:24] <bblinky> Oh, sory.. Yes, it does start
[23:25] <bblinky> Just with permanent amnezia
[23:25] <bblinky> between sessions
[23:26] <ravage> all results point to installing dconf dbus-x11 to fix it
[23:28] <bblinky> Yup...
[23:28] <bblinky> I suppose I might have found a real bug... But apparently it's only on my machine >_<
[23:47] <bblinky> lol, I think I just crashed systemd...
[23:48] <bblinky> My mate suggested me to try install ubuntu-desktop gnome
[23:48] <bblinky> Now I can't event check status on services without hanging the terminal
[23:49] <bblinky> And the install is hanging everytime it tries to make a systemd call
[23:57] <cosmicwonder> thats sad
[23:58] <bblinky> Indeed
[23:58] <bblinky> Generally not really impressed with WSL so far :/
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> i am NOT an expert at systemd, not even an intermediate, or i would try to help. sorry :)
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> i have a friend who could help however
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> would you like me to ask him to help you?
[23:59] <rbox> well windwos is garbage to start with...
[23:59] <bblinky> It's ok cosmicwonder
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> he's a systemd EXPERT
[23:59] <bblinky> Would be interesting if he could help figure out what crashed it
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> all right then, but if you need assistance, don't hesitate to ask Jookia
[23:59] <cosmicwonder> ok