[02:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:07] <Beladona> whats the USP of ubuntu? Why debian was not enough?
[03:07] <Beladona> I mean, why should one choose ubuntu over debian? 
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !debian
[03:13] <Beladona> lotuspsychje:  yes I get it but in a line or two, why ubuntu was created? the site link just says (in simple terms) based on Debian, with a focus on release quality, enterprise security updates and leadership in key platform capabilities for integration, security and usability
[03:14] <Beladona> its just beautiful words. Whats the real specific reason? 
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> Beladona: lets reverse it, what do You need/ is important to pick an Os?
[03:15] <Beladona> first I need to understand what exists and why
[03:15] <Beladona> Just want to understand reason of ubuntu existance
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> yeah well im not gonna debate or philosophy about that for hours :p
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> there are tons of tutorials online you can read on ubuntu and debian Beladona 
[03:17] <Beladona> lotuspsychje:  can it be told in a line or two? 
[03:18] <Beladona> What is the vision, reason of ubuntu, what differenciates it from debian?
[03:18] <Beladona> a simple question
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> Beladona: did you really read the link and all the sublinks there so quick?
[03:20] <Beladona> yes, I read it and the above paste is from that link.
[03:21] <Beladona> wthe site link just says (in simple terms) based on Debian, with a focus on release quality, enterprise security updates and leadership in key platform capabilities for integration, security and usability
[03:25] <Beladona> lotuspsychje:  apparently no one has a clear answer
[03:41] <arraybolt3> I know the user already left, but Ubuntu's goals are threefold:
[03:42] <arraybolt3> One, to provide a Linux distribution that "just works" out of the box. The installation is simple and easy, commonly used apps are preinstalled, there's an app store, and things work more-or-less like they would on, say, macOS in terms of user experience (though obviously Ubuntu is dramatically different than macOS in many respects).
[03:43] <arraybolt3> Two, to provide enterprise-level security support for many of the packages in Debian (those in the 'main' repository). CVEs for packages in 'main' are virtually guaranteed to be patched very quickly, whereas Debian has no such guarantee.
[03:44] <arraybolt3> Three, to provide newer software to users who don't want to run a terrifying rolling release but who also can't stand to use severely out-of-date but still maintained software (which are the two extremes you generally get with Debian). Users who like the ease-of-use and security but who also want old stable software can use Ubuntu LTS, those who
[03:44] <arraybolt3> want to get newer software but not use a bleeding-edge rolling release can use the newest Ubuntu release available at the time.
[03:45] <arraybolt3> The original goal (as evidenced by Launchpad Bug 1) was to outdo Microsoft with a Linux distribution. While they haven't beaten Windows in terms of market share, I think many of us agree they did a fine job at beating Windows' security, reliability, user experience, and stability.
[03:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[03:46] <arraybolt3> lol, well that was convenient
[03:47] <arraybolt3> So now if anyone else watched that conversation and wonders what the answer is, there you go :P And I can hopefully copypasta that later on.