[00:31] <form76> wait so creating a startup disk (flash drive) from an ISO just writes the ISO to the flash drive without extracting it?
[00:32] <leftyfb> yes/no
[00:32] <form76> I mean it writes a cdfs filesystem to the flash drive?
[00:32] <form76> I tried to modify a file on the flash drive and was confused about it being read-only, then I noticed the filesystem type
[00:34] <leftyfb> the iso is basically an image of a cd/flash drive. Writing the iso to the flash drive just re-images that image back onto the flash drive
[00:34] <leftyfb> it does not copy the .iso file to the existing filesystem of the flash drive
[00:36] <form76> right, I've never seen iso9660 filesystem on a flash drive before
[00:36] <form76> figured it would be fat32
[00:37] <leftyfb> it's not something you edit
[00:37] <form76> you mean it's not something most people edit
[00:38] <leftyfb> it's not supported in any way
[00:38] <rbox> form76: people have been dd'ing iso images to flash drives since they have been big enough to fit a cd, lol
[00:38] <rbox> for all eternity essentially
[00:41] <form76> rbox well now I know that, thanks. Not sure why you needed to add "lol" to the end of that.
[00:41] <form76> Most of my background is Windows
[02:27] <arcade> hello
[02:28] <ruser> Hello. I'm on ubuntu 22.04 with zfs, currently off live cd trying to fix my boot issue but i can't seem to get  update-initramfs to work. It fails with  udev rules for some reason, it's trying to call rules I don't have..  e.g. cp: cannot stat '/lib/udev/rules.d/56-dm-parts.rules': No such file or directory  https://bpa.st/Z7WQ
[02:51] <LnxGnome> ruser: just throwing ideas here, but can you see your zfs pool?
[02:52] <ruser> LnxGnome: yeah, i'm mounted and can see files, infact i'm chrooted into the root pool
[02:54] <LnxGnome> ruser: are you doing the update-initramfs from the chroot? are /proc /dev /sys all mounted in there too?
[02:55] <ruser> there is potentially an earlier issue  with cryptsetup earlier on, which i'm researching right now  https://bpa.st/YRLA     LnxGnome: yes, i am  /dev /proc /sys
[02:56] <ruser> maybe i should post the whole verbose log
[02:59] <ruser> But like, why is it trying to run rules that don't exist on my system?
[03:00] <Beladona> whats the USP of ubuntu? Why debian was not enough?
[03:01] <LnxGnome> Beladona: USP?
[03:01] <Beladona> unque thing about it
[03:01] <Beladona> unique selling proposition
[03:01] <ravage> Beladona: we dont sell anything here. if you want to discuss Ubuntu please use #ubuntu-discuss . This is a support channel.
[03:01] <Beladona> ravage: that was a metaphor
[03:02] <LnxGnome> Beladona: Canonical (paid support)
[03:02] <Beladona> I mean, what does ubuntu offer that debian does not and what was the reason behind making ubuntu
[03:02] <Beladona> LnxGnome: debian don't have paid support?
[03:02] <Beladona> LnxGnome:  is the the only thing ubuntu came into existance or were there any other reasons as well ?
[03:02] <Beladona> I mean, why should one choose ubuntu over debian?
[03:04] <ravage> Beladona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XLBo_OhUN0 and now please keep this channel free for support
[03:04] <ruser> LnxGnome: side note, for some reason initramfs was also running lvm2 hook, even though i don't have that installed either
[03:04] <Beladona> ravage: what do you mean by keep chanle free for support? I didn't understood
[03:05] <ravage> !ot | Beladona
[03:05] <ravage> or the discuss channel as already mentioned
[03:05] <Beladona> ok
[03:12] <ruser> so, I got an error with intiramfs-tools hooks  (more specifically lvm2 which i resolved by removing the exec bit from lvm2), and cryptosetup,  complaining about cyphers and udev rules.  But another thing of note looking into my snapshots at the total number of hooks is different. I havne't found the exact point in snapshot when they were added yet.  but
[03:12] <ruser> /usr/.zfs/snapshot/autozsys_dkrq29/share/initramfs-tools/hooks# ls -l|wc -l returns 30, vs current 38
[03:35] <ruser> idk, if this quetsion makes any sence, but  what package is responsible for udev rules? and how would i find out?   update-initramfs is failing with  trying to execute non-exisiting rules
[03:35] <ahkdigital> Does anyone else have an Ideapad Slim 7 14? I don't have it current only here but when I installed 23.10 previously (and even with a Live USB just trying), my touchpad doesn't work (no click, no movement). It works fine on 22.04. It's an Elantech one in this model of computer
[03:35] <rbox> any package can install files
[03:37] <ruser> What might be  telling initramfs it should call a udev rule?
[03:38] <ruser> s/initramfs/update-initramfs/
[03:38] <rbox> the update-initramfs code...
[03:40] <ruser> rbox: i'm not so sure, maybe something down the chain but when i grep recursevly for a non-existant rule in /etc/initramfs-tools/ it returns 0 matches
[03:41] <ruser> I guess i am mistaken in where i'm looking and should look at the script itself
[03:41] <ruser> silly me
[03:42] <ruser> on the other hand,  grep dev   /usr/sbin/update-initramfs returns nothing
[04:05] <ruser> ok. so looks like it's kpartx hook that is failing when trying to copy the rules.  i assume it isn't a hook i can disable?
[04:08] <ruser> Looks like `apt-get install --reinstall kpartx` solved my udev rules issue
[04:10] <ruser> and this solves my update-initramfs issue
[06:40] <bray90820> So back on 22.04 if I installed Pule audio volume  control I was able to record my internal audio but it doesn't work on anymore on 23.10
[06:47] <c0ld5n4p> trying to figure out why the "locate" command is not finding files i know are there or why the results differ from the "find" command i tried using the updatedb command but does not fix my issue
[06:48] <arraybolt3> bray90820: By "able to record", do you mean you were able to adjust your mic volume and turn on your mic before, or do you mean you had a sound recorder app before?
[06:48] <arraybolt3> If the former, how did you install Ubuntu? If the latter, try Audacity, it works well.
[06:49] <bray90820> arraybolt3: What I meant was I was able to use audacity to record audio from a stream such as youtube or whatever
[06:50] <arraybolt3> ohhh. One thing that changed after 22.04 was Pipewire became the audio server in Ubuntu, replacing Pulseaudio.
[06:50] <arraybolt3> That may be your problem.
[06:50] <bray90820> Yeah but I could record on 22.10 and 23.04 it's just 23.10 it seems like
[06:51] <arraybolt3> One solution you might have is to install a Pipewire audio connection tool - then you could attach an audio output from, say, Firefox, and connect it to Audacity.potentially.
[06:51] <bray90820> Do you know of an audio tool I could use for that?
[06:55] <arraybolt3> is qpwgraph available?
[06:56] <arraybolt3> I'm still on 22.04 and it's not in the repos there, but it might be in your repos.
[06:56] <arraybolt3> *in the repos for 23.10
[06:56] <fdan> hiya
[06:56] <fdan> need some help fixing a disk
[06:57] <fdan> i have configured raid and now when i do sudo mdadm --examine /dev/md0
[06:57] <fdan> mdadm: No md superblock detected on /dev/md0.
[06:57] <fdan> i get this. is there a way to fix this?
[06:59] <bray90820> arraybolt3: yes it is avalable
[07:36] <uwu_linux_openbs> Alacritty crashes on Ubuntu
[07:36] <uwu_linux_openbs> I have installed it from snap store
[08:24] <fweht> when im in vscode and i press cmd+o (to open a file), the the dialogue appears *behind* the active window...  i installed vscode via snap, anybody else experiencing this?
[09:30] <doosboox> I’m on 23.04 and still have no release path to 23.10. When can I expect one?
[09:33] <Habbie> doosboox, i think usually that comes with 23.10.1?
[09:34] <doosboox> Habbie: well... when is that? :D
[09:34] <Habbie> i don't know :)
[09:38] <Habbie> the ubuntu:rolling tag on docker hub, will that move to noble as soon as it exists, or only when 24.04 actually comes out?
[09:50] <BarnabasDK> I may be rememering wrong, but isn't the PREEMT_DYNAMIC relatively new as a build parameter for the linux kernel used in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <BarnabasDK> It used the be just SMP
[09:54] <BarnabasDK> well at least as far as I can remember
[10:01] <i-Areos> https://pastebin.com/LYkU9k7Q
[10:02] <i-Areos> https://pastebin.com/LYkU9k7Q
[10:03] <i-Areos> https://i.imgur.com/7bmzRHz.png
[10:03] <i-Areos> i can't update my machine
[10:03] <i-Areos> even i can't install package actiona
[10:04] <Gry> https://pastebin.com/raw/LYkU9k7Q
[10:06] <Gry> i-Areos: that is because kinetic version is too old
[10:06] <Gry> !upgrade
[10:06] <Gry> see what ubottu wrote above
[10:08] <i-Areos> Gry ubottu no other solutions to install a package? actiona package
[10:08] <i-Areos> ok thanks
[10:09] <i-Areos> https://i.imgur.com/zLM8fB1.png this is apt get update
[10:10] <Gry> i-Areos: depends on package. installing an older version manually would be insecure because both ubuntu and the package would both be obsoleted.
[10:10] <Gry> i-Areos: I guess the update doesn't take you to the next ubuntu release, there is another procedure.
[10:11] <i-Areos> Gry i downloaded .deb file & installed and didn't work
[10:11] <Gry> "didn't wirk
[10:11] <Gry> is too vague and is also unsupported here i believe
[10:12] <Gry> so you may need to follow the procedure to upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[10:12] <i-Areos> ok done .. thanks guys
[10:12] <Gry> done what?
[10:14] <i-Areos> Gry done I'm reading links by ubottu
[10:15] <Gry> ok
[11:06] <Guest71> Hey, is anyone here a frequent user of chkrootkit ? I've had a hit on BPFDoor and wondering if anyone knows of an example (default) process that would use packet_recvmsg?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <bazul> Hi
[12:43] <uwu_linux_openbs> hello
[13:58] <juloliv> Hi. I'm using gnome-console on Ubuntu. I've set my desktop theme to Adwaita but gnome-console still has a purple / orange theme. Any idea what decides its colours?
[14:28] <avaleaski> .
[14:29] <paul424> Hello, hello, what to do when Ubuntu asks for lost keyring ( or something like that )  when starting Ubuntu ?
[14:33] <paul424> when starting Skype*
[14:37] <ruser> I have raidZ1 across 3 drives,  each drive has a BIOS grub partition#1 (bios_grub falg) and  gparted reports  "grub2 core.img" as FS.   Yet when I go to boot, or grub-install it says "unknown filesystem" no matter which of the hdds i use. can anyone help me understand this, or troubleshoot this?  This is the grub-install verbose output https://nopaste.net/qaBcuA72Jm   If i'm reading this correctly it looks
[14:38] <ruser> like it only is really choking on the 3rd drive [/dev/sde]? but i'm not seeing  anything else out of the ordinary
[14:38] <ruser> oh, it's in GPT/Legacy mode
[14:39] <ravage> ubuntu comes with a patched grub that supports ZFS. do you run it with that version?
[14:40] <ruser> 22.04 i'm currently chrooted into the env, how do I check?  apt show grub2 shows the following:   Version: 2.06-2ubuntu7.2
[14:40] <ravage> that should support zfs
[16:24] <impermanence> If an ubuntu desktop server sleeps will I still be able to ssh to it? Haha it sounds stupidly obvious when I ask outloud. I have to install a little ubuntu desktop server in a store that is very remote from me and I always need to be able to connect to it.
[16:24] <ravage> you may have to disable power management stuff
[16:24] <ruser> impermanence:  look for wake up on lan option in bios, and check other power management settings
[16:24] <Habbie> or find a way to Wake On LAN
[16:25] <Habbie> which may be hard from outside
[16:25] <leftyfb> impossible from the outside, unless you have access to another machine onsite
[16:25] <impermanence> I have the box with me now
[16:25] <impermanence> no issues there
[16:25] <leftyfb> impermanence: servers shouldn't sleep
[16:25] <impermanence> ^ right...
[16:25] <impermanence> I'll do some googlin'
[16:25] <ruser> ^^^^ 100%
[16:25] <ruser> @servers shouldn't sleep
[16:42] <andym> hi
[16:57] <Square2> I'm confused by microphone configuration in ubuntu/linux. I tried a video editing program KDenlive and noticed my sound was horrible. I found a guide that told me it was probably due to sampling frequeny. So I changed the frequency setting in daemon.conf. KDenlive sounded great. But then people i talk to over discord started complaining about noise. Is there a right way to do this?
[16:57] <Square2> i guess the daemon.conf file is associated to pulse audio.
[17:09] <gmachine24> Hi runny Jammy 22.04.03 Ubuntu server doing an update I get the following errors: https://pastebin.com/LrsBHnBL
[17:10] <ravage> gmachine24: try "sudo apt clean"
[17:10] <gmachine24> and then rerun the same command?
[17:10] <ravage> right
[17:10] <leftyfb> and apt update
[17:10] <ravage> that is always a good idea yes :)
[17:11] <gmachine24> That worked. You're a genius! Thanks.
[17:12] <ravage> \o/
[17:12] <gmachine24> :-)
[17:17] <jeblad> Seems like I have a boot problem on one of my machines. It hasn't been restarted, but an update was made a few days ago. Now it can't find the boot directory.
[17:20] <jeblad> Its an Ubu 23.10
[18:28] <tt_1> Hello everyone, I've got an old X41 laptop with lubuntu on it. I did start with 14.04 years ago, and decided for whatever reason to use the i686 port for it. Now, with 18.04 I seemingly don't have any upgrade path left with the dicontinued port. Is there a beginner friendly way to reinstall the x86_64 port and keep all my settings, and upgrade from there?
[18:29] <oerheks> X41  is 32 bit?
[18:30] <tt_1> I believe the cpu is 64bit capable, let me check
[18:31] <oerheks> if you want to change to 64, reinstall. and one could backup settings, not sure they are usefull and compatible.
[18:31] <tt_1> I have to boot the machine and cat cpu/proc
[18:32] <oerheks> or lscpu
[18:33] <tt_1> I prefere proc :)
[18:33] <Guest8154> I have no idea what I'm looking at
[18:34] <tt_1> also the CMOS battery is dead, I need to reenter current date
[18:34] <Guest8154> I was lookin for Chromium cus Firefox is doing a where's Waldo with Discord
[18:34] <tt_1> but bios says its an intel core2 duo cpu L7500
[18:34] <oerheks> that should be 64 bit, AFAIK
[18:34] <tt_1> indeed
[18:35] <oerheks> reinstall, to change to 64 bit in a reliable way
[18:36] <tt_1> it takes a few minutes to boot
[18:38] <leftyfb> tt_1: install ubuntu 22.04 from scratch and restore your files from backup
[18:41] <tt_1> not sure if I'm able to tell the installer to not delete /home?
[18:41] <oerheks> if it has its own partition, es
[18:41] <oerheks> yes
[18:42] <tt_1> 22.04 uses firefox as snap
[18:42] <tt_1> any disadvantages?
[18:42] <oerheks> snap is fine.
[18:42] <tt_1> I know next to nothing about it
[18:43] <jailbreak> tt_1: it's much slower, that's for sure.
[18:43] <tt_1> is it a container?
[18:43] <leftyfb> jailbreak: only on first boot
[18:44] <oerheks> any browser is slower on first boot.
[18:44] <tt_1> firefox is a special one in this case
[18:44] <leftyfb> tt_1: you'll be fine
[18:44] <tt_1> I'll download the iso and boot from usb stick to see if I like it
[18:45] <oerheks> one need just 4gb minimum.
[18:46] <tt_1> for lubuntu?
[18:47] <oerheks> lubuntu does not take much, firefox with every page in a jail.
[19:07] <tt_1> oerheks: what do you mean by firefox being in fail for every page?
[19:08] <oerheks> no, i did not write fail
[19:09] <tt_1> *jail
[19:09] <tt_1> ?
[19:09] <oerheks> as in a protected environment
[19:09] <oerheks> so, specs say 512 mb will do.. good luck!
[19:10] <tt_1> yeah, I read the specs for lubuntu
[19:10] <tt_1> firefox does use a container for every tab it has open, with snap?
[19:10] <jailbreak> Don't want to use snap? Don't use ubuntu = problem avoided.
[19:10] <oerheks> deb version too
[19:18] <linux> hi i have a 10yaers old pc with i3 2gen and 6gb ram i useit mostly for browsing and streaming and in special occasion for office i want to replace with a raspberry 5 8ram its gonna do the trick its gonna be worse
[19:18] <linux> ?
[19:20] <mybalzitch> specifically which model of i3
[19:20] <mybalzitch> it probably won't be any slower, and probably use 1/3rd the electricity.
[19:20] <oerheks> let us know, rasp pi is only out for early adopters
[19:20] <oerheks> 5 *
[19:22] <tt_1> core i3 will be more stable for sure
[19:23] <linux> CPU: Intel i3-2105 (4) @ 3.100GHz
[19:24] <tt_1> rpi has a lot of problems with upstream kernel, needs special firmware, my money is on the i3
[19:25] <linux> i read about the problems with netflix and some wrok aroound
[19:25] <linux> but is that bad
[19:25] <linux> ?
[19:26] <tt_1> propably worse
[19:27] <mybalzitch> netflix HD under linux I think is always gonna be questionable no matter what
[19:27] <tt_1> you should keep that i3, and buy an rpi5 only if you want to go on a real adventure
[19:27] <linux> thx all for the answers
[19:43] <tt_1> didn't like the new lubuntu port, lets try xubuntu instead
[22:48] <bray90820> how would I figure out what my microphne is in lsmod
[22:48] <bray90820> U'm using 23.10 on a laptop if it matters
[23:10] <sima> Installed Apache and works I don't know how to put my .html in the www folder?
[23:11] <sima> http://192.168.1.24/
[23:11] <armadefuego1> There is a directory "/var/www/html". Place your file there.
[23:12] <oerheks> sima tons of guides out there, basicly make the user part of the www-data group, and put it in  var/www/html
[23:12] <armadefuego1> the directory is not, most likely, writable by your user, so you have to do this as a user that has write permissions.
[23:15] <sima> ons of guides out there, basicly make the user part of the www-data group, and put it in  var/www/html ?
[23:19] <sima> opensuse  has root and ubuntu don't know how to work 'link'
[23:20] <leftyfb> sima: what?
[23:25] <sima> I have no privileges for www
[23:25] <leftyfb> sima: use sudo
[23:26] <leftyfb> sima: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#1-overview
[23:57] <cluelessperson> So is ubuntu putting ads in the apt update banner now?
[23:59] <oerheks> yes.
[23:59] <oerheks> good for you.
[23:59] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1434512/how-to-get-rid-of-ubuntu-pro-advertisement-when-updating-apt
[23:59] <leftyfb> several ways of disabling the messages