[00:03] <nexauu> Apparently the ubuntu-emulator package does not exist.
[00:04] <leftyfb> nexauu: what is "ubuntu-emulator" ?
[00:04] <nexauu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[00:05] <leftyfb> that was removed back in 2014/2015
[00:05] <JanC> maybe the ubports people have one?
[00:07] <nexauu> what
[00:07] <nexauu> oh
[00:07] <nexauu> mb
[00:08] <JanC> Canonical no longer works on Ubuntu Touch, but ubports is a community that does: https://ubuntu-touch.io/
[00:09] <nexauu> i already looked at that website
[00:13] <JanC> maybe Google's Android emulator will work too? (I think that's what it was based on?)
[00:14] <JanC> but I would ask the ubports community what they use for quick testing...
[00:15] <leftyfb> nexauu: https://forums.ubports.com/
[00:53] <dervish77newprot> hey guys i need help
[00:53] <dervish77newprot> E: The repository 'cdrom://Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS _Jammy Jellyfish_ - Release amd64 (20230807.2) jammy Release' does not have a Release file.
[00:53] <dervish77newprot> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[00:53] <dervish77newprot> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[00:54] <leftyfb> dervish77newprot: remove the cdrom repository from /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:54] <dervish77newprot> any command?
[00:55] <leftyfb> dervish77newprot: this repo should have been removed as part of the install. What is different about your install?
[00:56] <dervish77newprot> well  i tried to update but it will display this mesaage
[00:56] <leftyfb> dervish77newprot: is this a server or desktop?
[00:57] <leftyfb> dervish77newprot: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <dervish77newprot> desktop
[00:57] <oerheks> in desktop, see settings.. or phisical remove the cd
[00:59] <dervish77newprot> well i don't have a cd drive at all on this laptop
[01:00] <dervish77newprot> it's a toshiba protege
[01:00] <oerheks> seem update settings, cdrom
[01:01] <oerheks> 1st tab, installation medium ..
[01:01] <dervish77newprot> ok
[01:04] <dervish77newprot> thanks guys i fixed it
[01:05] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:43] <Guest1982> Hi, Newbish Linux User. Having issue with updating 20.04. 'sudo apt-get update' : ...Err:16 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/main Sources
[01:43] <Guest1982>   File has unexpected size (846504 != 1064). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.189.91.83 80]
[01:43] <Guest1982>   Hashes of expected file:
[01:43] <Guest1982>    - Filesize:1064 [weak]
[01:43] <Guest1982>    - SHA256:a844c3001307051761b817d1755e36c62a0d2ce86d487133d9a787905f25c931
[01:43] <Guest1982>    - SHA1:05907406d846652477faac7f391602cfb569a657 [weak]
[01:45] <Guest1982> Tried a bunch of things from stacked a while back. couldn't figure out the issue...
[01:45] <arraybolt3> I think this kind of problem is supposed to just clear up on its own.
[01:46] <Guest1982> Can't seem to install any new programs either. Which kind of need to reinstall QGIS
[01:46] <arraybolt3> "Mirror sync" is when the Ubuntu mirror you're using gets its packages up-to-date with the primary ones on Canonical's servers, if I'm understanding correctly.
[01:46] <arraybolt3> So the solutions are, 1: wait, or 2: switch to a different mirror.
[01:47] <Guest1982> ya, all are .ca servers... so check each one. thanx
[01:48] <arraybolt3> If you want to do the latter, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change all of the "http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com" lines to point to a different mirror. A good list of mirrors is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:48] <arraybolt3> Probably you want one of the ones in Canada. I'd recommend using http over https.
[01:48] <Guest1982> why no s?
[01:48] <arraybolt3> (since https doesn't provide any extra security for package downloads and it just slows things down)
[01:49] <Guest1982> thumbs up
[01:50] <arraybolt3> apt does signature checks and checksums for everything so unless you're trying to hide what packages you're downloading from a third party, https doesn't provide any advantages. (There are times when you want to hide that you're downloading packages, like when you have a frustrating ISP, but I'm guessing you're probably not in that situation.)
[01:50] <arraybolt3> (correction - you *can* tell apt to not do checks, but by default it does and you really shouldn't tell it to skip those :P)
[02:52] <Guest1982> Thanks @arraybolt3 Was able to update a fair amount. It now warns: W: Target Sources (main/source/Sources) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:2 and /etc/apt/sources.list:7
[02:52] <Guest1982> is that line 2 and 7?
[02:53] <arraybolt3> I believe so.
[04:03] <librehats> hey
[04:04] <librehats> since staff has a bystander effect problem I come here for public logging
[04:04] <librehats> #ubuntu is a goto chan for a court of record
[04:05] <librehats> did you get TorTV goingbyetbfor republican form live executions
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> not here librehats
[04:05] <librehats> did you get TorTV going yet for republican form live executions
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> this is a support channel librehats
[04:06] <librehats> yes is it still publicly logged
[04:06] <librehats> url pls
[04:06] <librehats> let me check
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | librehats please read this
[04:08] <librehats> Ubuntu channels are logged, many officially and all of them unofficially by individual users, and the contents of all channels are considered to be in the public domain.
[04:08] <librehats> PD wax
[04:08] <librehats> wax me
[04:09] <librehats> guarunteed a republican form of government = live and tekevised death row
[04:09]  * librehats yells death row! and arms another syrategic nuclrarvweapons krytrin triggrmer
[04:10]  * librehats yells death row! and arms another syrategic nuclear weapons krytron trigger
[04:10] <librehats> wax me
[04:10] <librehats> PublucDomain wax
[04:10] <librehats> get TorTV online
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !ops | librehats bad news
[04:12] <librehats> triitium investments for a krytron guaruntee
[04:12] <librehats> guarunteed
[04:13] <librehats> wax me up
[04:13] <librehats> PD wax
[04:13] <librehats> my heart melts like wax as crooks edit the logs like
[04:14] <librehats> it's why Pontious Pilate asks " what is truth?"
[04:14] <librehats> I AM
[04:15] <librehats> get TorTV online may judgment Day be televised ?
[04:15] <librehats> guarunteed a republican form of government
[04:16] <librehats> guarunteed
[04:17] <librehats> does a krytron capacitor sound like a 1980s camera flash powering up PICTURE PERFECT
[06:35] <i2p> helo
[06:35] <i2p> Hello
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> welcome i2p
[06:36] <i2p> Thanks @lotuspsychje
[06:39] <spinningCat> i try to connect a wireless connection hereanad i got error about handshake something
[06:40] <spinningCat> and i do forget network and try to connect same naetwwork i got same error again
[06:40] <spinningCat> but i can connect that wireless with my phone succesfully
[06:40] <spinningCat> what can i do to solve this error?
[06:41] <elias_a> spinningCat: Adhoc connection?
[06:42] <spinningCat> let me check
[06:43] <spinningCat> this is the error btw Error performing TLS handshake: The Diffie-Hellman prime sent by the server is not acceptable (not long enough).
[06:44] <elias_a> spinningCat: You should know by know. Adhoc means connecting two devices without using wifi network created by a wifi box.
[06:45] <spinningCat> when i think it is staarbucks connection
[06:45] <spinningCat> thaaat should be aadhoc
[06:47] <elias_a> spinningCat: No it is not. The error means you are trying to use such a crappy TLS secret that the device that gives you the error drops the connection handshake due to lack of security.
[06:48] <spinningCat> I see
[06:48] <spinningCat> so i cannot use that connection?
[06:57] <elias_a> spinningCat: I don't know what you mean with "that connection" as you have not told even what procol you are using.
[06:58] <spinningCat> if you ask for security it is none
[06:58] <spinningCat> it is public connection
[06:58] <spinningCat> ,when you connect that sends you sms
[06:58] <spinningCat> you connect with sms verification
[07:06] <elias_a> spinningCat: You are talking about something that 1) is not an Ubuntu support issue and 2) you have not described into detail: how exactly are you trying to connect the two devices.
[07:07] <elias_a> spinningCat: I have to go now. Hopefully someone else reads your messages and helps.
[10:11] <Yakov> i see my usb Kingston Technology DataTraveler SE9 but I can not open it with nautilus
[10:11] <Yakov> see with lsusb, pardon
[10:12] <akik> Yakov: you might need to change the permissions of the files and dirs on it
[10:12] <Yakov> how?
[10:13] <akik> Yakov: if you only have your own data files on it you can do it with "sudo chown -R username /where/its/mounted"
[10:14] <Yakov> how to find where its mounted?
[10:14] <akik> Yakov: df
[10:15] <Yakov> i suppose its not detected by df? https://pastebin.com/aE0x7gvT
[10:15] <akik> Yakov: no it's not mounted
[10:15] <Yakov> what can I do?
[10:15] <akik> Yakov: you'd need to mount it first
[10:16] <Yakov> yes, I did it before, but forgot how to do the same :)
[10:16] <akik> Yakov: first: lsblk -o +TRAN | grep usb
[10:16] <akik> Yakov: that'll show you the usb stick device
[10:16] <Yakov> sda           8:0    1   7.3G  0 disk
[10:17] <akik> Yakov: then you can run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" and see its partitions
[10:17] <akik> Yakov: are you sure it's that?
[10:17] <Yakov> yes
[10:18] <akik> Yakov: i'm asking because that line doesn't say usb
[10:19] <Yakov> https://justpaste.it/9quyn
[10:19] <akik> Yakov: ok i see the problem. you haven't created any partition on it
[10:19] <Yakov> alright
[10:20] <akik> Yakov: do you know how?
[10:20] <Yakov> nope
[10:20] <akik> Yakov: are you familiar with fdisk?
[10:20] <Yakov> I did before before installing ubuntu from installer
[10:20] <Yakov> not rly
[10:21] <Yakov> dont use it much
[10:21] <akik> Yakov: well i can give the commands for it
[10:21] <Yakov> pls, i will put it to my ubuntu commands cheat sheet
[10:22] <akik> Yakov: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" "g" "n" "1" "2048" "press enter" "w"
[10:23] <akik> Yakov: that'll create a gpt table and one partition that allocated the whole of it
[10:23] <akik> Yakov: then you can initialize it with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1"
[10:23] <Yakov> sudo fdisk /dev/sda: No such file or directory
[10:24] <Yakov> sudo fdisk /dev/sda" "g" "n" "1" "2048" "press enter" "w"
[10:24] <Yakov> should I copy opening and ending quote marks?
[10:24] <akik> oh christ
[10:24] <akik> commandS
[10:25] <akik> sorry i tried to help
[10:25] <Yakov> what do you mean?
[10:26] <akik> you were not supposed to copy and paste that
[10:26] <akik> they were multiple commands that you should run in order
[10:27] <Yakov> done
[10:27] <akik> Yakov: then you can initialize it with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1"
[10:28] <akik> Yakov: now disconnect it and reconnect it and try to access it in nautilus
[10:28] <akik> Yakov: if it doesn't work, you need to run the chown command above
[10:29] <Yakov> wow
[10:29] <Yakov> it works :)
[10:29] <Yakov> thanks :)
[10:29] <akik> :)
[10:29] <Yakov> but i cant create dir
[10:30] <Yakov> need permissions, right
[10:30] <akik> Yakov: "sudo chown -R username /where/its/mounted"
[10:32] <Yakov> ty, your carma is increased
[10:32] <akik> Yakov: you didn't say where you want to use that stick though so now it can be used in ubuntu
[10:32] <akik> bye
[11:11] <sreve> how can I set default rights for new files and directorys for a non admin user?
[11:14] <CosmicDJ> sreve: google umask
[11:15] <sreve> I see ... default its "umask 022"
[11:15] <sreve> I want the files only readable for the user and group members of the user group
[11:17] <sreve> ok ... its a "mask" :)
[11:19] <sreve> umask 0006 works for files but not for directories.
[11:20] <sreve> umask 0007 is what I want, I guess.
[11:44] <Guest44> Hi Mates
[11:46] <Guest44> I posted this question in ask-ubuntu forum and want to share the same here as well, was working on this issue for couple of day from now.. no luck, any help would help me make some progress, thanks
[11:46] <Guest44> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1491933/jammy-systemd-udevd492-eth1-failed-to-rename-network-interface-4-from-eth2
[11:54] <OnkelTem> Hi folks.
[11:54] <OnkelTem> What is the way to set/change locale on ubuntu 22.04?
[11:54] <OnkelTem> I need to apply a system-wide change
[11:55] <OnkelTem> localectl set-locale doesn't seem to update a thing
[11:55] <akik> OnkelTem: /etc/default/locale
[11:57] <OnkelTem> akik: so I have to edit it manually to change locales on Ubuntu? %-)
[11:58] <akik> OnkelTem: you asked how to change it. that's how you can change it
[11:58] <peirik> Seems my Alt+<key-above-tab> switching is broken. Pressing those keys should only switch between windows of the same application, right? But mine keep switching between different applications for some reason. Anyone know why this is happening, and how I might fix it?
[12:03] <OnkelTem> akik: meh, let's hope to by 28.04 we will get a command line utility for setting locales. (a voice from the audience: Wait, there is already localtectl set-locale! shut up, voice fomr the audience)
[12:03] <peirik> Never mind, I managed to fix it by explicitly setting this keyboard shortcut in settings for "Switching windows of an app directly". Makes me wonder what that shortcut actually did before 🤔
[12:07] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:07] <spinningCat> Cannot create RT messagebuffer thread: Operation not permitted (1)
[12:07] <spinningCat> Retrying messagebuffer thread without RT scheduling
[12:07] <spinningCat>  how can i allow this
[12:08] <tomreyn> spinningCat: please don't cross-post, please use a pastebin for pasting more than one line.
[12:09] <spinningCat> sorry
[12:09] <OnkelTem> tomreyn: that generates locales, not sets them
[12:09] <OnkelTem> at least it hasn't changed something here
[12:12] <akik> OnkelTem: do you mean you couldn't do it with localectl? sounds like a bug to me
[12:13] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: the command i provided should bring up a menu which lets you configure which locales are to be generated (and thus become available)
[12:14] <tomreyn> it does not configure which locale your system or user uses by default
[12:14] <OnkelTem> akik: localectl set-localte does change locales, but doesn't save them. I guess that's because on Ubuntu there is no /etc/locale.conf
[12:14] <OnkelTem> and as for /etc/default/locale, it isn't updated as well
[12:15] <akik> OnkelTem: ok well change /etc/default/locale then until the bug is fixed
[12:15] <OnkelTem> tomreyn: I know, I was wondering how one changes locale on Ubuntu aprt from manual editing /etc/default/locale by root
[12:15] <OnkelTem> akik: sure
[12:15] <geirha> I just tried running localectl set-locale LANG=... and /etc/default/locale did get modified
[12:16] <tomreyn> OnkelTem: looks like i misunderstood you then, sorry
[12:16] <OnkelTem> tomreyn: yw
[12:43] <Guest44> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1491933/jammy-systemd-udevd492-eth1-failed-to-rename-network-interface-4-from-eth2
[12:43] <Guest44> Out of curiosity, any other -- more specific -- Ubuntu group to post this question?
[13:04] <solzin23> hello
[13:20] <en1gma> any idea when we can start getting ubuntu 23.10 dailies again or any good 23.10 iso's anywhere?
[13:21] <en1gma> i need to test an m.2 ngff drive out from a live distro. what is a good test to do? just copy back and fourth large files and check CRC?
[13:22] <en1gma> the drive is 512GB and i would really like to write most all of it back and fourth to check it out good
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: 24.04 is going on daily devel cycle now
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: and at this early stage, they act a lot like the 23.10 release
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> !next | en1gma
[14:17] <Some_Person> I have a problem where my system won't always shut down all the way
[14:17] <Some_Person> I can't reliably reproduce it, but sometimes it just sits on this screen: https://i.imgur.com/chEkn3Q.jpg
[14:25] <ctraven> hello all
[14:27] <sotaoverride> whats a good introductory read for compositors
[14:27] <StucKman> lxd is installed by default on ubuntu server?
[14:27] <StucKman> how can i find out?
[14:27] <sotaoverride> try man lxd
[14:28] <StucKman> it's the other way arouns, I have LXD installed, I want to know if a sysadmin has beenplaying around or it's a default thing
[14:29] <StucKman> yeha, weird situation, I'm the new sysadmin in this huge place, they gave me some server to herd, and I keep finding stuff on every corner
[14:41] <leftyfb> StucKman: the snap is installed by default but not enabled/running until you configure it or try to run lxc
[14:41] <StucKman> so I just enabled it on a server, how can I disable it?
[14:42] <leftyfb> StucKman: sudo snap remove lxd
[14:43] <StucKman> that sounds like it removes it, not disables it, maybe just a misnomer?
[14:43] <leftyfb> StucKman: why would you want to leave it installed but disabled?
[14:43] <StucKman> I just want to leave it in the same state I found it
[14:44] <leftyfb> StucKman: are there any containers installed?   lxc list
[14:45] <StucKman> nothing, as I expected
[14:45] <leftyfb> then just remove it
[14:46] <StucKman> can I just disable it and figure out if I want to remove it from 20 severs later?
[14:47] <leftyfb> you ran an lxc command on 20 servers?
[14:47] <StucKman> no, just one, but I have it on all 20+ servers, yes
[14:48] <leftyfb> then just remove it from the 1 server and leave the rest alone
[14:48] <leftyfb> the default ubuntu server install sets up a socket that listens for anyone running lxc commands which will then fully install and setup lxd. I do not think it's worth going back and setting this up again. Just remove lxd and if you need it again later, just install it. The alternative is a lot more work and testing
[14:49] <StucKman> I see
[14:52] <StucKman> leftyfb: can I quote you publickly? :^) mastodon, to be more precise
[14:53] <leftyfb> StucKman: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/containers-lxd#:~:text=LXD%20Server%20Configuration
[14:53] <leftyfb> StucKman: it's best to quote the documentation
[14:53] <StucKman> right, tx
[14:56] <StucKman> TBH, your explanation is way more concise :)
[15:24] <en1gma> im running an ubuntu 22.04 live and have an m.2 (512GB). i want to check for any errors. im currently usings "disks" to format the drive fat32. do i just download a large iso and transfer from my ram to the drive and do a CRC check and delete the one in ram and then copy the one on the drive back to ram and again check the CRC and then do this about 100 more times? is there a better way than that?
[15:26] <en1gma> disks started out formatting it at 750MB/s and said 11mins left and now 5mins later its formatting at 75MB/s and says 1hr and 19mins left. this is with "ERASE" = On
[15:28] <ph88> hi
[15:28] <ph88> was my message posted ?
[15:29] <en1gma> if you typed it was.
[15:29] <en1gma> i just joined so cant see it
[15:30] <ph88> :D
[15:30] <ph88> my release upgrade is not working
[15:31] <en1gma> why is it taking my M.2 taking so long to ERASE using DISKS. its only 512GB and it does do 1500MB/s write
[15:31] <en1gma> download the latest ubuntu 22.04 daily and write it to a usb stick and do fresh install?
[15:32] <en1gma> they pulled all the 23.10 stuff because of abuse
[15:32] <en1gma> as far as ISO's for 23.10
[16:44] <Menzador> ... it was reuploaded last I checked
[16:44] <Menzador> but they're gone so oof
[16:44] <Menzador> (with all of the bad bits removed)
[17:02] <lbracher> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and my keyboard uses fn key in order to access F[1..12] keys. I'm trying to use the Shift+F7 (using fn key), but it's being catched by Gnome as volume up. I'm trying to disable it, but I couldn't find it in `gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings` or in keybindings window. Where it can be?
[17:07] <CrtxReavr> lbracher, can't disable the Fn lock with Fn-escape?
[17:08] <lbracher> CrtxReavr, no. I'll try to do that on BIOS, thanks anyway!
[17:08] <CrtxReavr> No. .. not on bios. . . on the keyboard.
[17:08] <CrtxReavr> It's a pretty standard think on laptops, hold down the Fn key and hit escape to disable the Fn lock.
[18:11] <vboxuser2> hi
[18:11] <vboxuser1> hi
[18:13] <elias_a> Ubuntu 23.04 on Thinkpad T450s, bluetooth not recognized. Any advice?
[18:14] <leftyfb> elias_a: make sure it's turned on via the BIOS and/or button
[18:28] <elias_a> leftyfb: I rebooted and checked BIOS settings. No BT on/off there. There is no physical switch for BT in the laptop as F8 is supposed to toggle both wifi and BT.
[19:11] <AHemlocksLie> How can I get connmand to stop listening on port 53? I'm trying to run Pi-Hole on a home server and can't figure out how to get it to stop
[19:21] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: remove the package? Disable the service? Why did you install connman if you didn't want to use it?
[19:22] <fweht> ugh just tried to setup an astro project and ubuntus nodejs is too old, i use ubuntu 23.10 which came out quite recently, why dont they include an up to date nodejs?
[19:22] <AHemlocksLie> leftyfb, I don't recall installing it, so I assume it came stock. From the name, I assume it's a connection manager, which is great, but I need the DNS port freed up
[19:23] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: it's not stock
[19:23] <AHemlocksLie> Apparently it runs some sort of DNS proxy? I don't have a service for it even, it seems
[19:23] <AHemlocksLie> I've seen recommendations to edit the service file to disable that capability, but the file isn't where people say it should be
[19:23] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: sudo apt remove connman
[19:24] <leftyfb> fweht: sudo snap install node
[19:25] <fweht> leftyfb: aah thansks so much!  will there be a contradiction between node from apt and node from snap?  should i uninstall apt node?
[19:26] <leftyfb> fweht: I would recommend removing the apt version
[19:26] <fweht> thanks
[19:26] <fweht> and here i just agree / use --classic? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TRczDweq/
[19:27] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to make sure nothing depends on connman for some weird reason before I rip it out... I have no idea when it got installed
[19:27] <leftyfb> yes, include --classic in the command
[19:27] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: a default install of ubuntu does not install nor rely on connman in any way
[19:28] <AHemlocksLie> I've got a handful of other things set up on here, though. This isn't a fresh install
[19:28] <AHemlocksLie> if it's not stock, I have to assume it was installed for some reason
[19:29] <AHemlocksLie> why in the world is cmst, a GUI for Connman, installed on a headless server...
[19:30] <AHemlocksLie> Because LXQT is installed... Why tf is LXQT installed...
[19:30] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: good luck sorting out your machine
[19:31] <AHemlocksLie> Is there a way to tell if I accidentally installed a desktop version instead of a server version?
[19:31] <fweht> leftyfb: so in the future, if a package is available on snap and apt, should i always use snap?  is snap going to replace apt?
[19:31] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: do you have a desktop running?
[19:32] <AHemlocksLie> leftyfb, I don't have a monitor hooked to it, so I'm not entirely sure. I'd assume so since there's one installed
[19:32] <leftyfb> fweht: the snap versions tend to be more recent versions and can potentially be provided directly from the vendor as opposed to a community maintainer
[19:32] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: how did you setup ssh without a monitor?
[19:32] <fweht> leftyfb: sweet, thanks a lot
[19:32] <fweht> nice community here
[19:34] <AHemlocksLie> I don't remember, I think I hooked it up to the TV initially for basic setup and installing Ubuntu, but I would have just done things from the command line unless a desktop popped up
[19:35] <AHemlocksLie> Like I would not have installed LXQT just to get through basic setup
[19:35] <elias_a> leftyfb: My mistake! There was after all a selection that turned off bluetooth. It was categorized under I/O settings. :D
[19:35] <leftyfb> AHemlocksLie: you can look through your dpkg logs in /var/log/
[19:49] <AHemlocksLie> There's a huge flood of packages installed around the time connman is, so it's hard to make sense of. Can I expect the "trigger" package to appear at one end of the list, like at the start of this huge flow or the end of it?
[19:52] <oerheks> apt-cache depends connman
[19:52] <leftyfb> rdepends
[19:52] <leftyfb> apt rdepends connman
[19:52] <oerheks> oops, you are correct
[19:53] <leftyfb> there are no packages that depend on connman other than the connman-related packages. modem-manager-gui shows in the results, but in my testing does not pull in connman
[19:54] <mario_> hey all, thanks for any assistance
[19:54] <mario_> did anyone's "snap refresh" break w/ 23.10?
[19:55] <mario_> seeing this message a lot: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 487: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `ELFW(R_TYPE) (reloc->r_info) == R_X86_64_RELATIVE' failed!"
[19:56] <mario_> seeing that message on "snap refresh", as well as when i did "apt --reinstall install snapd"
[19:59] <mario_> also seeing it on "apt update"
[20:00] <leftyfb> mario_: sounds like you have something seriously wrong with your system
[20:00] <mario_> :'(
[20:00] <mario_> noooooooo!
[20:00] <leftyfb> mario_: not snap-related
[20:00] <mario_> yeah looks more widespread
[20:00] <mario_> what would you recommend?
[20:00] <leftyfb> mario_: sudo dmesg -T
[20:00] <leftyfb> do you see any errors ther?
[20:01] <mario_> oh wow yes i do
[20:01] <mario_> segfaults
[20:01] <leftyfb> mainly around I/O ATA
[20:01] <leftyfb> corrupt filesystem and/or bad storage device
[20:01] <mario_> is there any way you know of to test the storage device and/or fix the filesystem?
[20:02] <leftyfb> mario_: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/fsck-command-linux
[20:02] <mario_> seeing a lot of segfaults w/ "gvfs-udisks2-vo"
[20:02] <mario_> in fact i first noticed these issues w/ udisks2
[20:02] <leftyfb> mario_: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-check-an-hard-drive-health-from-the-command-line-using-smartctl
[20:02] <mario_> leftyfb, thank you
[20:03] <kostkon> mario_, did you upgrade to 23.10 or was it a clean install
[20:03] <mario_> upgrade
[20:03] <kostkon> ok
[20:04] <mario_> thanks leftyfb i'll try fsck
[20:49] <en1gma> i dont have ubuntu installed yet. usually i just grab a live daily version of 22.04 / 23.10 and install it but since 23.10 is not available for now can i install 22.04 and dist-upgrade to 23.10 or is that blocked for now too?
[20:50] <mario_> en1gma, 23.10 is available
[20:50] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: what do you mean 23.10 is not availabl
[20:50] <CosmicDJ> e?
[20:51] <en1gma> all the servers have been down over a week because someone put negative propaganda in some of the files
[20:51] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: that was weeks ago
[20:51] <en1gma> so they pulled all the images until it is fixed
[20:51] <en1gma> i was just trying the servers yesterday
[20:51] <en1gma> and many days before that
[20:51] <CosmicDJ> which servers?
[20:52] <en1gma> all of them'
[20:52] <leftyfb> en1gma: https://releases.ubuntu.com/23.10/ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:52] <en1gma> yea. they goto blank servers
[20:52] <en1gma> or they did*
[20:52] <iknownothing> Works for me
[20:52] <leftyfb> it was fixed almost a month ago
[20:52] <en1gma> still do just checked
[20:52] <en1gma> google
[20:52] <en1gma> "
[20:52] <leftyfb> en1gma: https://releases.ubuntu.com/23.10/ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:52] <en1gma> "ubuntu 23.10 daily build"
[20:53] <en1gma> click any of the links
[20:53] <leftyfb> en1gma: https://releases.ubuntu.com/23.10/ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:53] <en1gma> so that is the only one we are supposed to use? dang i been just googling it and clicking those
[20:53] <en1gma> ok will try it. thanks
[20:53] <en1gma> cool. 23.10 here i come
[20:54] <en1gma> grabbing it now.
[20:54] <leftyfb> https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop and then scroll down to 23.10 and click "Download 23.10"
[20:54] <leftyfb> not sure why you're using google for that
[20:54] <en1gma> cdimage has been reliable in the past. guess they not populated the new images yet
[20:55] <en1gma> you would think the official ubuntu server would come up
[20:55] <leftyfb> you mean this one? https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/23.10.1/release/
[20:55] <en1gma> the first 10 links it gives for 23.10 are all cdimage
[20:55] <en1gma> then its videos on youtube
[20:56] <en1gma> none of the links are the official ubuntu server. omfg. like 25 links and no ubuntu server? for real?
[20:56] <iknownothing> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:56] <en1gma> wow
[20:56] <en1gma> almost everytime i just pop open my browser with google set as home page and i just type ubuntu and the release
[20:57] <leftyfb> or just go to ubuntu.com, click download -> Get Ubuntu Desktop -> "Download 23.10"
[20:57] <en1gma> lesson learned
[20:57] <en1gma> yep yep
[20:57] <en1gma> ill do that from now on. for at least a week i been checking every day for the 23.10 images to populate. omg. too funny
[20:58] <iknownothing> Anyone using Rolling Rhino?
[20:58] <leftyfb> iknownothing: not supported here
[20:58] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: don't you read anything else? the release was on distrowatch, 9to5linux, etc etc.
[20:59] <leftyfb> iknownothing: Rolling Rhino is also a dead project and no longer supported by it's maintainer
[20:59] <iknownothing> Oh, I thought it was an official version, never mind. :)
[21:17] <arraybolt3> iknownothing: While this is off topic, you may be looking for Rhino Linux. (I believe that's the successor to Rolling Rhino.)
[21:18] <iknownothing> ty
[21:19] <arraybolt3> actually it doesn't look like the successor, but it has a similar goal
[21:19] <leftyfb> it's literally the successor
[21:20] <leftyfb> from https://rollingrhino.org : "In October 2022 I wrote a blog post detailing that Rolling Rhino Remix would no longer be reciving any further development, in favour of its successor project, Rhino Linux. A lot of development has happened since then, and I am proud to announce that Rhino Linux is ready to be released soon!"
[21:21] <arraybolt3> ah, I couldn't see Martin Wimpress anywhere on Rhino Linux, thus my confusion.
[21:22] <arraybolt3> for some reason I thought he was the guy behind Rolling Rhino
[21:32] <Maik> arraybolt3 he developed the script to change Ubuntu into a rolling release also called Rolling Rhino
[21:32] <Maik> https://wimpysworld.com/projects/rolling-rhino/
[21:35] <sybariten> Hey hey, asking like yesterday, does anyone here use fzf? I'm not getting the behaviour i expect, after having watched tutorials
[22:03] <dervish77newprot> hola
[22:04] <dervish77newprot> i have issues with my linux ubuntu terminal'
[22:08] <Maik> dervish77newprot please try to elaborate so others may help you. Just coming into a support channel saying you have a issue doesn't work. :)
[22:08] <oerheks> .. waiting for details
[22:19] <mario_> leftleg_, thanks a million!
[22:19] <mario_> just fscked via usb, fixed everything
[22:19] <mario_> i mean leftyfb
[22:19] <mario_> anyway have a great day everyone
[22:24] <bjorkintosh> is there an issue with network printing going on?
[22:43] <bjorkintosh> Ubuntu automatically recognizes my Brother printer (lasrbruh) almost instantly.
[22:43] <bjorkintosh> I printed a bunch of things just fine without an issue, and then it simply stopped printing.
[22:44] <bjorkintosh> 12 hours later, I saw some zombie print jobs pop out of nowhere.
[22:44] <bjorkintosh> and it still didn't print.
[22:58] <leftyfb> bjorkintosh: reboot, both your pc and the printer
[22:58] <willayd> Since upgrading to 23.10 I've noticed that snap installed apps do not scale at all on my secondary monitor, unless fractional scaling is enabled
[22:58] <willayd> Any ideas what might be causing that?
[22:59] <bjorkintosh> don't know willayd. I refuse to upgrade if I have work to do. I'd rather wait till the next long term release to upgrade to that.
[22:59] <bjorkintosh> been bitten far too many times.
[23:00] <bjorkintosh> leftyfb, I'll try that. it's still strange that it printed 6 documents just fine without a hiccup and then 10 minutes later it simply stopped printing anything.
[23:00] <leftyfb> bjorkintosh: I'm gonna guess either a job got stuck or the printer disconnected from wifi
[23:01] <bjorkintosh> it never disconnected from wifi. I could see it through the cups interface and through the brother web interface.
[23:02] <bjorkintosh> and it faithfully printed out config reports.
[23:02] <bjorkintosh> just not anything else I wanted.
[23:14] <toddc> bjorkintosh: I have several brother lazer printer scanners I ended up using the brother drivers
[23:15] <bjorkintosh> toddc, I downloaded the brother drivers and installed them.
[23:15] <bjorkintosh> worked fine and then simply stopped. the printer's fine.
[23:16] <bjorkintosh> but there's a problem along the 'buntu<->wifi<->lasrbruh line.
[23:19] <toddc> bjorkintosh: ok mine are are all ehernet connected so you have traced to wifi no idea stick around till the right person sees your post   ( I reall i did have a print job fail and had to delete it as leftyfb commented
[23:19] <toddc> print spool in windows terms
[23:19] <bjorkintosh> well I deleted the failed jobs, but nothing else printed after that.
[23:20] <bjorkintosh> then the damned thing popped up the print jobs from the night before attempting to print again.
[23:20] <bjorkintosh> no matter what I do, I can't delete the printer from ubuntu. it autodiscovers it.
[23:21] <toddc> wifi dropped packet but no idea how to test that
[23:22] <bjorkintosh> toddc, repeatedly over several hours? I guess I can always reboot the entire network.
[23:22] <bjorkintosh> maybe pihole is eating it up
[23:27] <leftyfb> it's unlikely pihole. Pihole is only a DNS server. The printer is being discovered by avahi/zeroconf and then added by it's ip address
[23:33] <JanC> unless it's some sort of crazy "cloud printing" thing where both printer & computer need internet access...
[23:33] <JanC> but I doubt that
[23:41] <bjorkintosh> yeah avahi sees the printer just fine. and it printed just fine. and then it simply stopped accepting jobs.
[23:42] <bjorkintosh> like it was some exclusive company or something.
[23:51] <JanC> if you're lucky the printer only refuses to print on Thursdays & tomorrow it will start working again...
[23:53] <Your_Dog> JanC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8
[23:53] <JanC> ?
[23:54] <leftyfb> !ot | Your_Dog
[23:54] <JanC> there was an actual bug where printers refused to print (some things) on Tuesdays, so why not on Thursdays...
[23:55] <Your_Dog> Dang, I linked the video because that's how I would react if my printer ever does that to me
[23:59] <jjjoooeee> having a problem when booting and typing in my crypt password, the system freezes.  this happens in plymouth graphical prompt as well as in text prompt in rescue mode, on both most recent kernels.  filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2042043 a bit ago but no response, is there a better way I can diagnose this to provide
[23:59] <jjjoooeee> enough info for help?
[23:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2042043 in linux (Ubuntu) "system boot freeze while typing crypt password" [Undecided, New]
[23:59] <JanC> bjorkintosh: after removing all jobs from the print queue on both your computer & the printer, and maybe even restarting the printer, does it still happen?
[23:59] <JanC> bjorkintosh: also, try printing from different applications, see if it is only print jobs from one application that fail