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JanCor only large ones but not small ones, etc.00:00
arraybolt3Your_Dog: sorry, we get a lot of people who just want to stir up trouble so we're automatically suspicious of random youtube links00:00
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Your_Dognah, it's cool00:07
aleHello friends what is your favorite flavor of ubuntu, I like popos :)00:08
leftyfbale: popos is not a flavor of ubuntu, it's a derivative. Feel free to discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss00:10
JanCI think Pop_OS has a channel too? #pop!_os00:11
aleThank you for your insight :) I guess xfce is just a derivative too00:13
leftyfbxfce(xubuntu) is a flavor of ubuntu00:13
aleoh I get it00:14
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webchat59Hai04:28
webchat59Need help here04:30
webchat59https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2492352&p=14164595#post1416459504:30
webchat59Can some one please help me.04:30
uwu_linux_openbsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa04:33
uwu_linux_openbssnaps are slow!04:33
uwu_linux_openbs:(04:33
webchat59is every thing allright04:39
toddcwebchat59:   missing snap.yaml searching04:44
webchat59what i have to to fix these errors04:45
toddcthe yaml should be included with the livepatch snap so I can only assume the issue is with the latest snap I also see several other posting simular issues --file a bug repot04:50
toddchttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/report-ubuntu-bug.html.en04:50
toddcsome one else here may be able to help more that I in that area04:52
webchat59Thanks toddc i will do that.04:53
webchat59Can ypu please have a look into 2nd issue in the link.04:53
webchat59Waiting for someone else response.04:53
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toddcwebchat59: amd ACPI errors relate to power managment in the bios  check for a bios upgrade but should not cause any major issues05:04
webchat59Thanks toddc for the information.05:09
Uriel_J_ChanBendiciones202307:35
Uriel_J_ChanHack The Planet!07:35
Uriel_J_Chan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ItEmCnP8007:37
OurRoyalGabehttps://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/204950294-EdgeRouter-L2TP-IPsec-VPN-Server#207:49
OurRoyalGabeI'm about to try to follow the guide07:49
OurRoyalGabeand see if I get a functional VPN on my ER407:49
OurRoyalGabeoops07:49
OurRoyalGabeone letter off here on the channel07:49
P1roHi, im trying to figure what i think its a IPtabels issue, on dmsg i got logged that iptables its dropping pings and evertyhing, i try to flush the iptables and still nothing, tcpdump show IN data but not out, im opne to sugestions08:05
zzarrHello! I'm trying to get an headless script to work, but when I run apt (tested with apt-get as well) I always get the "Configuration file" question for a package, I pass this flags/options to apt -yq -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confdef09:12
zzarrI forgot, I do run this line before apt "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive"09:13
toddczzarr: normally ubuntu has a yes no or compare option you may want to check with debian as it may be different option09:17
zzarrtoddc, I see, so there might be a config to disable the check I guess09:20
toddczzarr: or a complete rewording of options tho I usuall do not recommend a force command it can break things09:22
zzarrtoddc, I understand, but in this case the particular package that asks can not use the default config and it must be headless09:24
toddczzarr: more details would help but there are a lot of changes between the distos so we could make it worse plus we would not be able to try to duplicate with certainty09:25
zzarrtoddc, I think I might have found a solution, installing the package first, then overwriting the config file09:26
toddcgood luck09:28
zzarrthanks09:28
StucKmanI'm on jammy. what systemd service/package do I need to install so ssh-agent is run on my DE session?09:36
StucKmanI search for ssh-agent in packages.u.c and it only finds the binary and a completion file for bash and for a shell called yash: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ssh-add&mode=exactfilename&suite=kinetic&arch=any09:37
toddcStucKman: server or client ? sudo apt install openssh-server09:37
toddcStucKman: client should be in network manager gui  assuming Gnome09:38
StucKman(k)ubuntu desktop09:39
StucKmannetwork manager?09:39
toddcone sec09:39
StucKmannotice I mentiones ssh-agent, not sshd or ssh09:40
toddcStucKman: I wanted to verify same just uses keys this guide should help https://linuxhint.com/ssh-agent-ubuntu/09:43
toddcStucKman: ssh can be run client side gui in Remmina ignor the network manger09:46
jcduttonHi. Is anyone having problems upgrading to mantic ?09:52
jcduttonIt's failing here with: KeyError: "The cache has no package named 'ubuntu-minimal'"09:52
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mizukihi all guys. what is this text? こんにちは。これは何ですか?10:32
SwedeMikemizuki: UTF-8 worked correctly if that's what you're asking10:32
mizukiwhere is here?10:33
SwedeMikethe Internet is everywhere10:33
mizukiI asked Google what IRC is.10:36
jeremy31ICR10:36
mizukiI have a general understanding of what IRC is.10:37
CosmicDJwell you're IRC'ing right now...10:38
BedMan:-o10:38
BedManis there a definition of IRC like gnu?  Gnu is Not Unix :-p10:39
* BedMan likes recursion10:39
CosmicDJfail: goto fail10:40
BedManheh CosmicDJ :)10:40
mizukiI'm Japanese and rely on Google's translator.10:40
gordonjcpBedMan: no, but the "B" in "Benoit B Mandelbrot" stands for "Benoit B Mandelbrot"10:40
BedMan10 goto 10 <-- basic is older-school than C10:40
BedMangordonjcp: Lol10:41
BedMangood one.10:41
CosmicDJmizuki: there's a #ubuntu-jp channel, too according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:41
mizuki>>CosmicDJ  Thx! I'll try that!10:43
StucKmantoddc: the first phrase of that link says: "ssh-agent is configured to execute on Ubuntu automatically" it's not my case, so I'm asking how to hook it to the session startup10:47
ograusually gnome-keyring-daemon does that for you10:49
ogra(IIRC ... has been i while i had to tinker with dekstop stuff)10:50
StucKmanhmm, ok, I'm on KDE instead...10:50
ograi'm sure there is some KDE equivalent10:50
ogra(havent used KDE since 1.2 ...)10:50
StucKmanTBH, I think it works on my debian machine, but I can't access it right now (itś at home).10:51
ogragoogle says the KDE equivalent is called kwallet ... so i'd dig in that direction10:53
StucKmanyeah10:54
StucKmanbut I heard it's launched as a systemd service10:54
ogragnome-keyring too usually ... (as a user-session systemd service)10:54
StucKmandoes _anyone_ have ssh-agent running on the DE? ps faux should tell you who launched it10:54
jcduttonHas anyone upgraded to mantic ?11:27
tomreynmost likely. and most likely that's not the question you were looking for an answer for.11:28
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FossilWeird question maybe but I am trying to delete a bunch of large >30GB files from a machine that has a very busy IO system. Therefore deleting takes ages. I Googled a lot and cannot find it so maybe it's impossible. But I was wondering if there was a way to just delete the entry for a file from the filesystem file table. Effectively not deleting it physically but the OS would think the space is free?11:37
FossilThis is EXT4 by the way. Also wondering if a diff filesystem might be better.11:38
CosmicDJFossil: how are you deleting the file? unless you use srm or smth else that's what rm already does11:38
FossilCosmicDJ Yeah just rm. But I am wondering why it takes so long then if it just wipes the entry in the hash table.11:38
CosmicDJmodern filesystems are a bit more complex than a hash table... but I get why you're wondering11:40
FossilAh I guess it unlinks the blocks. Large file = more blocks = slower.11:45
FossilMight have to tinker with block size11:45
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jcduttontomreyn, I am asking, because the upgrade procedure is not working for me.  So wishing to gauge how many other people are having problems.12:44
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jcduttonFossil, you can set priority on disk operations.  So you could prioritise you delete of 30G files over whatever else it is doing12:46
Fossiljcdutton with nice?12:47
Fossilionice12:47
jcduttonyes12:47
jcduttonionice12:48
jcduttonFossil, you can also move filename to different folders on the same fs, and that is a zero-copy operation.  So you could move the files out of the way initially, and then proper delete them later12:49
FossilThanks12:49
jcduttonFossil, another thing that is slow on ext4 is if the sheer quantity of filenames in one folder is large, it makes things slow.12:51
FossilOkok. I will try and experiment when this workload is done. Might try XFS, ZFS, whatever too12:55
jcduttonFossil, I think all filesystems suffer when too many files are in the same folder.  So moving to another FS is probably not the answer. The solution is changing the program to shift folders based on time and such like12:59
FossilThere are only 400 files now. But all large files13:01
jcduttonFossil, a good way to tell if you have too many files in the folder is to do an "ls -l" and if it takes way too long, you have too many files there.13:13
Fossiljcdutton Its fast, but slow when the machine has a lot of files open and it processing a lot of files13:14
jcduttonFossil, What sort of storage is it?  HDD or SDD or NVME ?  Moving to NVME will reduce a lot of the IO load as it will raise the IO headroom considerably.13:25
FossilHDD RAID10 behind a HP Raid controller13:26
FossilIt's a 20TB pool, getting that with NVME will be costly :-)13:27
jcduttonNVME is not as costly as it once was. SSD will also be considerably better than HDD as the seek time latency is what is probably causing your perceived latency.13:28
centHOGGmassive storage > hdd (mechanical)13:29
gordonjcpNVME is so cheap these days13:30
gordonjcpI guess in theory an NVME would be cheaper, there's less to it13:30
jcduttonFossil, something like this, filled with NVME disks should be reasonable:  https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/2029/SYS-2029U-TN24R4T.cfm13:42
jcduttonFossil, about $500 per 7TB disk.13:44
jj_Does anybody dual boot Windows + Ubuntu? If so, do you have a method of encrypting contents on the Ubuntu side? I have Bitlocker on the Windows side, but I didn't see, or missed, an option to encrypt my home folder on the Ubuntu side. Can I do that after the fact, or apply something to specific files or folders?13:46
CosmicDJjj_: I'm thinking about using fscrypt + pam to encrypt my homedir (which is on an EXT4 fs)...13:48
SwedeMikejj_: https://jumpcloud.com/blog/how-to-encrypt-ubuntu-20-04-desktop-post-installation is one way13:49
jj_thanks!13:50
jcduttonjj_, backup all your data before encrypting it13:55
ioriasy to inform ladies and gents that ecryptfs-utils is highly deprecated13:58
de-factowhy does gnome shell disable all extensions by itself?14:20
de-factohow can i prevent it from doing that?14:20
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StucKmani finally found out: I was running gdm3 instead of sddm, so the whole Xsession infra seems to be ignored. I could confirm, but I would have to logout twice :-P14:53
BinarySaviorhello, an application is attempting to open a web browser and failing14:58
BinarySaviorit is running on an appimage14:58
BinarySavioris there anything obvious to do with the ubuntu permissions to allow this application to open a web browser?14:59
de-factofor developing wsgi with apache2 on an ubuntu host, how should the perms be for the python venv files?15:18
de-factoi guess (not sure) the apache2 runs as www-data in group www-data, also its python stuff?15:19
de-factodoes that mean that all files should be owned by www-data:www-data and the webdev users join the www-data group?15:19
de-factoright now the files are owned by root but given rw to everyone, which most likely is wrong15:20
de-factoalternatively i probably also could create a new group webdev and join all developers and www-data to it then own the whole tree to www-data: webdev15:22
de-factonot sure, which approach is best?15:22
de-factoor rather: is there already a pre-defined way to grant web developing users access in ubuntu?15:22
ifritHi!15:45
ifritI was trying to set Plex and found this instructions to allow Plex user to access certain folders https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu-linux/#Configure-Media-Files-Folders-Permissions-with-Plex-Media-Server-on-Ubuntu15:45
ifritSo I wrote:15:45
ifritsudo chown -R plex:plex /home/15:45
ifritBut the process was taking to long and I kill it. And after I wrote:15:45
ifritsudo chown -R plex:plex /home/myuserfolder/Videos15:45
ifritAnd when I restarted my user is like I've just installed Ubuntu 23.04 √°°✓15:45
ifritI've lost all my settings? Anything I can do? How I can backup the next time to prevent something like this? (or maybe to migrate account to a new installation...)15:45
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BardonHello, I would like to extend a partition that is used as a pv in lvm. Can I do that? Gparted refuses to do it16:33
BardonI need to "deactivate" the partition first, but I don't know what it means16:33
leftyfbBardon: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/resize-lvm-simple16:34
leftyfbBardon: https://networklessons.com/uncategorized/extend-lvm-partition16:35
leftyfbBardon: 1st and 2nd result on google for "lvm extend partition"16:35
Bardonleftyfb: I am not sure that link applies here. my disk /dev/sda has one partition sda1 and a lot of unallocated space. sda1 is used as a pv, and I'd like to extend the size that pv can use16:35
BardonI do not want to extend a lv, which I believe your (first) link explains how to do16:36
Bardonbut maybe I missed something16:36
BardonI could very well make a second partition on my disk, using all the unallocated space, then create a new pv, add it to the same vg, then extend my lv16:37
Bardonbut I don't think it makes sense in my case to have two pv in two partitions of the same disk, being used in the same lv, so I'd like to avoid it16:38
leftyfbBardon: do you need to resize the volume or the partition?16:38
Bardonthe partition used by the pv16:38
BardonI'd like to extend /dev/sda1 to use all the space in my disk16:38
Bardonand my pv uses /dev/sda1 at the moment16:38
leftyfbBardon: then use resize2fs16:38
Bardonbut that space is unallocated16:39
Bardonresize2fs would extend my filesystem to use all the space available in my lv, right?16:39
leftyfbBardon: sudo resize2fs /dev/sda116:39
BardonI'd like /dev/sda1 to use all the space available in /dev/sda, which at the moment is split between sda1 and unallocated storage16:39
Bardonok ill try that16:39
Bardonit says that ressource is being used16:40
Bardonand it can't find a valid superblock16:40
Bardonwhich makes sense because sda1 is a pv, used un my lv (which is unmounted)16:40
leftyfbBardon: why do you even have lvm setup on a single drive?16:41
Bardonbecause it makes resizing partitions (lvs) in this case easier16:42
Bardonand I can add a second drive more easily later if needed16:42
Habbiei use lvm on all my single drives16:42
leftyfbHabbie: I also do, but only for FDE16:42
BardonWhat does "deactivate" a partition means in gparted?16:43
BardonIt seems I need to do that before I can resize it16:43
leftyfbHabbie: I guess I don't understand your setup if neither resize2fs nor lvextend applies16:44
leftyfbBardon: I guess I don't understand your setup if neither resize2fs nor lvextend applies16:44
Habbiei don't understand the setup either16:44
HabbieBardon, can we see 'lsblk' in a pastebin please?16:44
BardonI have one drive sda, which has one partition sda1 and a lot of unallocated storage. sda1 is set up as a pv. I would like sda1 to span the whole disk16:45
leftyfbBardon: lsblk -o +type -e7 -f | nc termbin.com 999916:46
Habbienice16:46
Bardonthat computer is currently booted on a liveusb and doesn't have internet access, give me a minute16:47
leftyfbthen how was the partition in use?16:48
BardonIt is used to store some user data, while the rest was used by Windows. I have just removed the windows partition, which is now unallocated space, and I'd like to install Ubuntu there16:51
peirikJust upgraded to 23.10 and now my Super+<arrow> function (move window position) seems to have changed. Now, everytime I move a window to the left or right I'm prompted to select a new window for the opposite side of the screen. This is very annoying. Anyone know how I can change it back to just moving the initial window without being prompted?17:13
rfmpeirik, try turning off "Advanced Tiling" in Settings->Ubuntu Desktop17:26
peirikrfm: many thanks! that fixed it 👍17:29
ayushhey17:29
dominic_Was das17:39
Guest93Is there some way to "mask" a package from being installed (or preferably a glob of packages) and have apt throw a fit if a different package of similar purpose is flagged for removal?18:01
Guest93The context is "something keeps replacing the upstream NVIDIA drivers with the Ubuntu repository ones that don't yet support my hardware properly, and I need that to stop"18:02
leftyfb!pin | Guest9318:02
ubottuGuest93: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:02
Guest93leftyfb: is a version required to be specified or is it safe to simply define the package name? The NVIDIA repository names their driver package differently from Ubuntu's main repository, and I mostly just need >= 53518:05
sakawtullahjhj18:08
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mvanordeI'm having trouble with gnome extensions on Ubuntu 22.04.  I can't enable/disable any extensions from the gnome-extensions gui(all switches are grayed out).  And from the CLI I can only enable/disable the ones that came pre-installed and screen-capture-protection@citrix.com18:56
mvanordeThere doesn't seem to be any errors or logs of any sort that I can find indicating why nothing works.  I can run `gnome-extensions enable <extension name>` then `gnome-extensions list --enabled` but nothing changes and no errors18:57
mvanordeEven tried moving extensions from ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ to /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ then restarting, after which the extension shows up in the "Built-in" list in the gui, but still won't enable19:00
Maikmvanorde did you log out and in again after installing the Extensions manager?19:00
mvanordeyes, even tried rebooting19:00
Maikweird19:00
mvanordeEven the extensions installed from gnome-shell-extensions package won't enable19:03
arraybolt3mvanorde: Do you own this machine? I notice a Citrix thingy and am wondering if perhaps you're using a machine managed by your organization.19:04
arraybolt3If so, perhaps your workplace has disabled your ability to change certain extensions.19:04
mvanordeIt's a work laptop, but AFIK the level of management is only ensuring certain packages and VPN settings are installed19:07
arraybolt3I'd check with them anyway. It is possible to restrict how a user can change their GNOME Shell extensions, so if the machine isn't letting you change those settings, then it's fairly likely they've locked them.19:08
mvanordeI even tried enabling extensions via dconf editor.  I'm unable to change the /org/gnome/shell/enabled-extensions setting though.  It just resets to the saved default: ['screen-capture-protection@citrix.com']19:08
arraybolt3(like, the ability to lock those settings is a feature of GNOME.)19:09
leftyfbthat's more than likely an admin system19:09
mvanordeDidn't know that was a thing.  A quick google search and I was able to update the list of extensions with sudo :)19:13
mvanordeThanks19:13
arraybolt3nice19:14
arraybolt3hmph, lotta good it does to "manage" a system only to let the user have sudo access to it XD perhaps they should have just given you a vanilla system and told you how to set it up19:15
arraybolt3but anyway, I'm going off topic19:15
mbosnerhello - i wanted to ask if anyone can give me information about the current mainline kernel builds or knows why there are currently no new ones?19:17
arraybolt3Infrastructure problems resulted in the builds no longer being done.19:18
arraybolt3no eta for a fix19:19
mbosnerbut they will? thank you for the update.19:19
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Bardonleftyfb: Habbie: My problem was solved by using parted to create a partition at the beginning of the disk, then pvcreate to create a new pv, then vgextend to add it to the same vg as my other pv, then pvmove to move the data to the new pv, vgreduce to remove the old pv from the vg, pvremove to remove the pv, parted to extend the disk partition which the new pv uses finally pvresize so that the new20:53
Bardonpv spans the whole partition :)20:53
BardonI have another question.. I am trying to install Ubuntu 23.10 from a liveUSB, on a laptop that has two lvs: one that I want to use as /home and the other one as /. If I choose a manual partitioning, those lvs don't show up21:00
p0dI was having some problems with realvnc so I disabled wayland and installed a dummy graphics driver. This fixed my vnc issues. I now boot to a black screen because of the change. Why does ctl+alt+f1 not take me to a console on Ubuntu 22.0421:00
BardonDoes the installer support lvm?21:00
majusculeHow can I install a later package version on a specific version of ubuntu? I need libpqxx=7.8 on ubuntu 22.04 for use on github actions, which is only packages for noble. is it possible to add the upstream repositories for installation?21:07
majusculelibpqxx-dev*21:07
leftyfbmajuscule: that's not supported21:07
BardonWhy do lvm partitions don't appear in the installer?21:12
Bardonnot appear*21:13
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arraybolt3p0d: Ctrl+Alt+f1 is probably intended to take you to a GDM screen. Try Ctrl+Alt+f3 to get a console.21:27
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lmatI do   ip link add link bond0 name bond0.1000 type vlan id 1000;  then ip addr shows a link called bond0.1000@bond0. Where does this "@bond0" at the end come from? I was doing this on the same machine a week or two ago and that wasn't there.22:59
lmatThen when I ip addr add 10.2.2.2/30 dev bond0.1000;, I get "Cannot find device "bond0.1000"" !22:59
lmatI have this stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, and when I    ip route, I see   x.y.w.z  via 10.2.2.2 dev bond0.1000;   and it looks like they're not working. It seems like they wouldn't work because the bond0.1000 device got renamed to bond0.1000@bond0!23:01
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akhello23:02
Mrpandahi guys,   my firefox wont run and it needs not to be there so i can re-install it. how can i delete firefox ?23:16
ravageMrpanda: try to delete ~/snap/firefox first23:18
ravageif that does not help: sudo snap remove --purge firefox; sudo snap install firefox23:18
Mrpandait got zapped by an unfrebly website23:19
ravagethe first command deletes all user data of firefox23:19
ravageso that should fix it then23:19
Mrpanda tried to start but abandons it23:19
Mrpandawont accept that.. can you type exactly what i need to type please23:25
Mrpanda-/snap/firefox23:25
EriC^^Mrpanda: ~/snap/firefox not -/snap/firefox23:27
EriC^^or "rm -r $HOME/snap/firefox"23:27
Mrpandait says its a directory... should i delete the directory ?23:34
maxtimYo, I just installed KDE. I'm wondering if there's a way to run a terminal command from a custom keyboard shortcut? Like meta+print = flameshot gui (not just the application Flameshot)23:34
Your_Dogmaxtim: I suggest to go to #kubuntu, that's the official irc channel for kubuntu distro flavor23:46
Your_Dogbut to answer your question, yes: https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kmenuedit/kmenuedit/kmenuedit.pdf23:46
maxtimthanks, dog. I was just stabbing at it. Thanks for the manual...23:47
Your_Dogmaxtim: you could also try this out too, seems straightforward enough: https://www.joe0.com/2019/02/15/how-to-take-screenshots-using-flameshot-in-kde-plasma-desktop-ubuntu-18-10-and-associate-it-with-the-print-prt-sc-keyboard-shortcut/23:51
maxtimYour_Dog: I actually already got it from that manual23:51
Your_Dogthat replaces spectacle with flameshot23:51
maxtimIt wasn't that difficult23:52
Your_Dogwhen you press the print screen23:52
Your_DogI'm guessing you want to replace spectacle with flameshot right? considering there is no need for flameshot since spectacle is part of KDE unless you prefer flameshot for whatever reason23:53
maxtimYour_Dog: it's better, imho. Or I'm just used it... probably more that I'm just used to it...23:55
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